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Mr. Yoso
Jul 28, 2000, 01:29 PM
Since all of you are talking about these companies, lets now dig deeper and find out which company is better, if not the best?

KuyaDanny
Jul 28, 2000, 02:25 PM
So it's a contest now? What's the prize?

miles_away
Jul 28, 2000, 03:32 PM
yah, i wanna know which among the three companies is the best. but i think its not Sykes coz their people are leaving them...ooopppss! just an opinion!

F-150
Jul 28, 2000, 05:03 PM
There is no doubt that the winner is Etelecare. Statistically speaking, 90% of the employees are from Ateneo!!!

KuyaDanny
Jul 28, 2000, 08:16 PM
Is the objective of this discussion to compare the three companies?

If so, I suggest that everyone gather information about all three and list them all here for everyone to see. We can start with the following:

a) No of employees
b) Years in the business/years in Philippines
c) Average starting salary
d) Typical benefits
e) Requirements for applicants
f) Clients (if known)
g) Sales and profitability
h) Market capitalization
i) Qualitative criteria

Now, if you boys and girls can't even answer these questions without turning this thread into a flame war, then this thread closes.

ChiQuoH
Jul 29, 2000, 03:13 AM
Sykes, ETelecare, PeopleSupport - and the winner is?

None of the Above

Why?
Based on my experience and my friends who is currently working in these three companies, Call centers like ETelecare, Sykes and Peoples Support don't give you the enough experience that you are looking for. If you were a graduate of Management degree who knows to surf the net or you plan to work as a customer support with the rest of your life these companies are the best place for you. But if you are aiming for a job which can give you the enough experience or skill in programming, design ...etc and have a 6 digit salary in the future, better not apply for these companies because call centers will just leave you professionally empty. In fact these companies have employees which have a degree of Physical therapy, Engineering, Computer Science, Architecture, Fine arts, Med techs, Microbiology, Pharmacy and others. But in my point of view, even a highschool student who is computer literate are capable of working in any of these companies. Working in call centers is more of decision making and a problem solver. It is true that first few months of working there will really make you happy because of the people, environment and salary. But after a year of working there I bet that you are one of the people who makes Job Sites the most visited site of the year and who is also thirst for knowledge. It is also so hard to find another job when you decided to leave the company because career wise your empty and fresh graduate are indeed more knowlegeable than you are. Unless you are transfering to another call center,like Etelecare to Sykes, Sykes to People Support, People support to ETelecare etc... you have the edge of transfering into one of these companies but having the same boring job. They do offer huge salaries, benefits and overtime pay to attract applicants. In fact you can have a salary of 17T (minus 3T tax) half the month if your social life is dead, or you work 16hrs a day and 7 days a week. But when it comes to appraisal, they are the worst, unless you're a favorite of your boss and be promoted. If you are working now in a company which gives you the enough exposure, experience and knowledge in your career but low salary don't ever think of applying to one of these companies because there will come a time that your current job will be recognized by highly paid companies which can give you more experience and give you a 6 digit salary. Not to mention, a lot of American companies are looking for experienced programmers here in the Philippines and are willing to sponsor working visas but if you came from a Customer support field don't expect of people from the US to run after you because anybody can do that stupid job.

In this thread one might win but the people who are working there are the loosers. I bet those people who are against in my opinion are fresh employees, Network Administrators or have plans of managing one of these companies but those who are with me are employees in Customer or technical support who have better bachelor degrees or board passers who seeks or thirst for a job that will give them more opportunity and high earning salary than those people who plans to stay in one of these companies and be a customer support or professionally empty for the rest of their lives.


[This message has been edited by ChiQuoH (edited 07-29-2000).]

ChiQuoH
Jul 29, 2000, 03:17 AM
Those who are fresh employees better think twice than to suffer and be a prisonner of customer service for the rest of your life...



[This message has been edited by ChiQuoH (edited 07-29-2000).]

blackblade21
Jul 29, 2000, 06:55 AM
I wholeheartedly agree on what Chiquoh wrote..... Seems to me na he is/was an employee of one of these companies. Masaya lang yan sa una, then matatauhan ka din at iisipin mong wala kang matututunan dito...

PauTOT
Jul 29, 2000, 05:38 PM
I really see no purpose in deciding which company is the best among the three as far as career opporunities are concerned. based on my limited experience with call centers....the employees don't stay there for very long because they realize that they're not learning anything from their stay or they stay there forever because they can't get jobs anywhere else....basically, I agree with everything that ChiQuoH said

and if the purpose of this thread is to compare the different companies based on their service...I see no point in it either because according to what CtrlAltDel said in a different thread:

PS and eTelecare are both start up companies but in customer service. but they specialize in different areas. from what i've heard PS takes only email and web-chat.

eTelecare has those two and the voice, CTI and CRM and several more.


[This message has been edited by PauTOT (edited 07-29-2000).]

LadyMarmalade
Jul 30, 2000, 03:12 PM
hmmm
makes sense

nerbie
Jul 30, 2000, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by ChiQuoH:
Those who are fresh employees better think twice than to suffer and be a prisonner of customer service for the rest of your life...



very well said!! you got the point. As what i've said in similar post like this.. if you are going to start your career... start it in the right way unless you're really desperate in having a job... as in desperate na talaga.

winterswirl
Aug 1, 2000, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by blackblade21:
I wholeheartedly agree on what Chiquoh wrote..... Seems to me na he is/was an employee of one of these companies. Masaya lang yan sa una, then matatauhan ka din at iisipin mong wala kang matututunan dito...

so, you are working na pala? :)
in one of these customer support companies?
really? :D

because i just started in SYKES ;)

chicababes
Aug 3, 2000, 02:45 PM
Honestly, I don't think there is any winner here. All these companies are in the same industry but serve different clients. But I do believe that Etelecare is quite different from Sykes and PeopleSupport because of the fact that it caters to American clients. I don't think that it aims to compete with call centers here in the Philippines because of the fact that it is a call center that only does customer service for American clients. Etelecare's competitors would be call center's in the US. But I do believe that Etelecare, as of now is the only one as of now that is able to provide a complete and integrated package to their clients unlike the others. I also believe that Etelecare cannot be compared to the other two because it is the pioneer not in the call center industry but because it is the first outsourced call center for American clients that has been established here in the Philippines http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

G-MAN
Aug 4, 2000, 01:43 PM
well, i dont think its quite fair to compare the 3 companies. i mean, each has their own "beauty" if u guys know what im talkin about. the thread i put up about a week ago regarding one of the three companies got closed because they started comparing it with the other two. of course we're all entitled to our opinions, but puh-lease spare the 3 companies from that crap.

erman
Aug 4, 2000, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by ChiQuoH:
Sykes, ETelecare, PeopleSupport - and the winner is?

None of the Above

In this thread one might win but the people who are working there are the loosers. I bet those people who are against in my opinion are fresh employees, Network Administrators or have plans of managing one of these companies but those who are with me are employees in Customer or technical support who have better bachelor degrees or board passers who seeks or thirst for a job that will give them more opportunity and high earning salary than those people who plans to stay in one of these companies and be a customer support or professionally empty for the rest of their lives.

[This message has been edited by ChiQuoH (edited 07-29-2000).]

Hello ChiQuoH,

Thank you for writing.

Everything you said is true... and yes, I’m a looser...

What can i say, supot ako, supooot...but it doesn’t mean that if you stay in one of these companies you’ll be “professionally empty for the rest of your life”.. its great to work for these companies, believe me... I guess nasa tao na rin yun kung mag-eenjoy siya or not. Working for one of these companies gave me the time to study, teach, and even do freelance photography/writing— which, i think, a more demanding “professional” job can’t give me... I may be a looser but I have life... and I have no plans of becoming a manager or a network administrator, not yet... I’ll be a bigger looser if I do that... darating din ako sa status na yan, hindi ako nagmamadali... There’s a lot of programmers, professionals, CEOs out there who have the experience and skills to make it big time... but for all we know, empty sila inside... loosers sila!.. so, its not a question of being able to work to your full potential and earn big bucks... it’s all about fulfillment... I’m contented with what I’m doing, with what I have... you’re only a looser if you feel like it... empty and unfulfilled... Are you happy?.. if not, then i guess you now what you are... a big loser... err, looser... =)


Sincerely,

Erman
Tech Support Engineer

esc_to_resign
Aug 5, 2000, 01:31 AM
Your very correct about that Erman. It really depends on the person on how he or she sees the job. It's quite insulting to people who work in these call centers with regards to what ChiQuoh posted. I believe this character has some bitterness in him. Maybe it's your grammar, which is the reason why your butt was kicked, or why you were forced to kick your butt? At these trying times, jobs are hard to find. Everyone wants to enjoy life, so let them be. Let them be with their life. If you're disgusted with the way were treated, take a look at yourself first, and think why you are disgruntled. If your an SOB so am I, but, I go to the max in what I do and enjoy most. If your upset why bad mouth companies you've worked in before, besides, jobs (5digit salaries) are hard to come by. don't think of them to be blind, coz they are not, it's you who is BLIND.

Twisha
Aug 5, 2000, 03:06 AM
ChiQuoH's comments to this topic were all true. I am also a customer support in one of these companies for a year now and believe me majority of the people here in this company also agreed to what ChiQuoH has posted. Even blackblade21 and nerbie understands our depressions because they are also in need of a more professional job and tired of this kind of job

As much as we want to leave this kind of job, we can't, because we need money. But we are still looking for a more challenging job and we are only working here to earn a living. Almost all of us here do have regrets because "talagang nakakabobo ang trabaho dito kahit kanino mo pa itanong" and afraid to be burried with this kind of career.


Erman: You may be right but I want to ask you two questions:

(1) Honestly, Do you really love your job or you just want this job because you have time to your part time jobs.


(2) If an International Magazine company offers you a job in Photography (Photographer), would you grab it?..or stay in International Customer support firm and do your part time job?


esc_to_resign:

Date Registered: 08-05-2000
Status: Junior Member
Total Posts: 1
Current Email: esc_verbal@hotmail.com
Homepage: http://
Occupation: professional bum
Location: Philippines
Interests: music, cellfones

Hey welcome to PEX. I bet you're a new employee in one of these companies because your profile is still professional bum. Goodluck to your work and I bet after some time you will realize everything that we are talking about.

esc_to_resign
Aug 5, 2000, 06:47 AM
So Twisha, you think I'm new here at PEX? think again. One thing you guys are, you're all a bunch of hypocrites. More blind than I ever thought. I know majority of you here came from a Taft-based school, and of course you deserve a job wherein you can apply what you learned. Well there's one thing that is constant in this world, it's not being satisfied with what you have. Then why burn your smooth butts around with these companies, and find a job that fits yourselves. By the way Twisha, I've been working for one of these companies for almost a year now. I respect your sentiments, but please don't damage the company's image, and don't brainwash the employees who work in these companies. Learn to respect.


Shalom!

Paul Van Dyke
Aug 5, 2000, 08:13 AM
F 150 - anong feeling mo. Maganda company mo kasi maraming Ateneans? Get real man! Let me give you some time to think over your position and i'll bet aalis ka din.bulok naman yang work mo...hahaha.

And you think you can buy an F-150 from your salary?

hahahahaha

kokoy
Aug 5, 2000, 08:42 AM
To Twisha:
If you were offered a dream job wouldn't you take it? Who wouldn't? Hello? Ok ka lang? hanep naman sa tanong yan. para mo na rin tinanong "papano kung binigay sayo yun banko sentral para abusuhin? tatanggapin mo???"

Sorry but what you're telling us here all the more describes your condition: unfulfilled, unsuccessful, and insecure.

If you're all that good then maybe you should get your sorry *** off that office chair and find yourself a dream job. One that would probably make you and your empty wallet bulge... that is, if you're THAT GOOD. Also, you may want to stop whining about how depressed and regretful your are. DO SOMETHING NOW!

To ChiQuoH: don't tell us you got all your info from all your friends. No one would know better than you. You sound like you just got your *** kicked from one of those companies due to your "grammar defects".
Furthermore about your statements, I also thirst for knowledge, this is why up until now, I find time for schooling... don't ever depend on your job to quench your thirst for knowledge, it's just not the right place. Go to a school man! I suggest one who'd teach you the difference between "LOOSER" and "LOSER". (and this is only for starters)

My two cents: frankly, I don't intend staying here all my life. Or I can say, I don't plan to be a Tech Support Engineer forever. I mean I don't mind being a permanent fixture in my present company as long as there's growth- personally, and professionally. In the grand scheme of things, self fulfillment and realization of this growth will matter most... it's not the company.

If you're not satisfied with the way things are falling into place, then do something NOW. Quit your job and find a better one. One thing though, don't poison the well, don't sour grape, and don't whine and waste your time.

esc_to_resign
Aug 5, 2000, 08:51 AM
Very well said kokoy! I wonder what time will their wake up call be, rather when? :rolleyes:

TOINK
Aug 5, 2000, 08:52 AM
yeah i think that chiquoh is the looser.. oops let me correct that.. a sore looser.. he probably got kicked out by one of the companies involved. i can say that i am very much eager in learning more things in my job as a tech support.. the learning process may be slow and not that technical but one thing is for sure. you will learn to be professional.... the pay sure helps but the amount of knowledge gained is low.. it depends to the person if he/she would like to improve or crave for more knowledge in SEVERAL ways... working as a tech support doesnt mean the possiblity of knowing more things is minimal.. definitely NOT!! if you want to learn more.. be professional.. besides professionalism is the best way to the top... you may know everything but if you dont act as a professional... your NOTHING!... so chiquoh.... where do you plan to apply?? mcdo? jollibee?.. sa burger king kaya para bottomless sopdwink... o cige sa fridays ka na lang para makapag paikot ka ng bottles =P... being a customer support is a profession and not just an ordinary job....

blackblade21
Aug 5, 2000, 09:59 AM
psssst guys, don't turn this thread into personal grudge match....

All of us here are voicing out our opinions... If you like staying in one of this companies, well that's fine... If you wanna get the hell outta there, that's ok!

The thing is, puro flames nanaman ang lumalabas and unless you want this topic closed, stick nalang sa topic....

And a mispelled or a mental lapse on Chiquoh's part doesn't entitle us to redicule him. Sheessh, i sound like a moderator na...

remember guys stick to the topic :)

elohim
Aug 5, 2000, 10:02 AM
hello there guys,

the only thing you do is not the exchange of what you think but only to destroy the reputation of the company you work with all of you are affected of what you are discussing about so better quit on and just go on with your life be happy of what you have right now if your not contented then its up to you.

let us all be guided by the spirit of the almighty God

TOINK
Aug 5, 2000, 10:14 AM
oh yeah am affected.. cuz i love my job.. so people like chiquoh who knows NOTHING.. then read my lips.. YOU ARE A LOHO-SEHER.. LOSER!
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/thinker.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/thinker.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/thinker.gif http://www.pinoyexchange.com/thinker.gif

esc_to_resign
Aug 5, 2000, 10:17 AM
Why... the direction of the wind suddenly changed. Let's re-read everything here, how can we discuss, when some disgust? I'm pertaining to the early post here.

Mr. Capricorn
Aug 5, 2000, 10:17 AM
User Name: Mr. Capricorn
Email: minombre77@hotmail.com
City, State, Country: costa_rica
Occupation: tekkeng
Interests: answering e-mails, escalations, meetings, updates, eating palabok and ice cream in the pantry

Itago nyo na lang ako sa pangalang Mr. Capricorn...

My reply to you Blabbermouth you...

Good Luck na lang sa job mo ngayon, which I hope is not related to Customer Service.

Pero alam mo, i dont see myself naman staying here for the next, hmmm say 10 years?
This is just a headstart...actually a good headstart kasi with this kind of sked? I get ample time doing other things...most of them for self improvement, enrichment, whatever you might want to call it...

Ikaw ba nasan ka na ngayon? ano ba ang company mo?...wala lang, so maybe we can JUDGE naman kung OK ba para sa'yo yang workplace mo? salary mo ba 6 digits na? I refer mo naman kami dyan sa company mo, baka sakaling maipagmalaki ko ren...o kaya pag nandyan na ko, mag popost den ako dito tapos sasabihin ko na this job sucks-a-lot...

Ngayon? I dont get bored naman, siguro kasi some of us knows na boring na nga then we'll rub it deeper pa na we'll tell ourselves na boring tong job na to?!?!?!naaahhhh...ako I still go to school, take certificate courses...yung iba sa'min gym, negosyso, etc etc...tapos pag umalis na ko edi "OK" na ko...e ikaw ok ka ba? kung "OK" ka email mo ko, tapos reply ako sayo with my Resume'.

Wala lang, I think it sucks to be you...
you seem to be such a bore, sour graping ChiQuoH.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ChiQuoH:
Sykes, ETelecare, PeopleSupport - and the winner is?

[b]None of the Above

Why?
Based on my experience and my friends who is currently working in these three companies, Call centers like ETelecare, Sykes and Peoples Support...blah...blah...blah

Lukyan Barsukov
Aug 5, 2000, 11:02 AM
ChiQuoH.....or A?**

I'm one of your officemates..pinaguusapan ka namin dito...how was your work at "Pinoyexchange"?....
Alam mo,..ang hirap maghanap ng hanap buhay ngayon...maliban na lang kung masyado kang inglisera at may kakilala ka sa luob ng kumpanya...gaya mo...

punta ka naman dito....

ChiQuoH
Aug 6, 2000, 11:31 AM
Welcome new PEXERs!

I'm just suprised that a lot of customer supports here have just registered in PEX just to be against me and used a bit of profane words. Everybody is entitled to his opinions and I respect everything that you have posted. I'm not here to fight, I'm just concern with you guys who aims for a brighter future, but if you wanna stay there is up to you.


TO: erman, esc_to_resign, kokoy, toink &
Mr. Capricorn


Goodluck to your jobs and thank you for calling me a looser...


Respectfully Yours,

ChiQuoH
Network Administrator
-Uniliver-

[This message has been edited by ChiQuoH (edited 08-06-2000).]

AngryBird
Aug 6, 2000, 03:25 PM
isa lang masasbi ko: mayabang

AngryBird
Aug 6, 2000, 03:26 PM
isa lang masasabi ko: mayabang

kiti-kiti
Aug 6, 2000, 04:12 PM
I second d motion....who in this world care if your the Network Administrator for Uniliver. at pakialam mo sa mga taong nag wowork sa tatlong companys na nabanggit. Its their life kung matalo sila (gaya ng sinasabi mo ) PAKIALAM MO!!!!!!!

Lukyan Barsukov
Aug 6, 2000, 09:10 PM
To ChiQuoH...

Do not MISLEAD us...You are not from Unilver...why dont you pay a visit to your former officemates here...alam mo kung saan dahil alam mo na alam namin kung sino ka. Ano ba a brighter future saiyo...yung tamang "yaman" ka o yung masaya ka sa buhay mo kahit karpentero ka lang...hindi kasing ere ang trabaho namin compared sa kung ano man ang trabaho mo...pero lahat kami ay may inspirasyon and that would be our lead to any of our personal motivations...wannabe rich..wannabe happy..wannabe blahblahblah...
....???...'wag ka nalang mang-discourage..sa mga katulad namin...DAHIL NAKAKATAWA KA.........punta ka dito ng makita mo..

note: since alam namin na taga PEX ka (at hindi taga Uniliver)...don't even think of altering my password for this forum.

oops pahabol: Yung Dildo mo..naiwan mo sa locker. Kunin mo na lang sa guard o sa janitor.

virtualara
Aug 6, 2000, 09:58 PM
Hmmm. Considering the responses I've read from these people, I don't think I'd ever want to work in any of the three companies. You guys have fun in your box. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

Ice Burn
Aug 6, 2000, 10:08 PM
I got accepted in Sykes, E-telecare and People's Support as well as BPI Call Center.
All are the same fields...Let me tell you about the salaries.

Sykes - P8000.00 starting for 2 months tapos increases depending on performance
Etelecare - P13000.00 starting
People's Support - P12000.00 starting
BPI - P11500.00 starting and increases after a year

All of them handle consumer complaints, product information and so forth...Deals with telephone and emails.

Personally, I can't stand the fact listening to people complain on the phone or even spend several hours on the phone as well as being nicey-nice to the rudest of people. So I decided not to accept any of them and travel...

E-telecare sucks because you have to be a slave to Americans. You even have to take a course to develop an American Accent.

Sykes gives a very low salary and compensation benefits for the work and they are late in salary increases which they allegedly promise.

People's Support tries to hard to get a majority CS grads from Ateneo, LaSalle and UP which I don't think CS grads would settle for a salary that low.

BPI will make you a bank slave but the training daw is good. But you know that banks have the most customer complaints.

You be the judge.

ChiQuoH
Aug 7, 2000, 01:48 AM
Originally posted by Lukyan Barsukov:
To ChiQuoH...

Do not MISLEAD us...You are not from Unilver...why dont you pay a visit to your former officemates here...alam mo kung saan dahil alam mo na alam namin kung sino ka. Ano ba a brighter future saiyo...yung tamang "yaman" ka o yung masaya ka sa buhay mo kahit karpentero ka lang...hindi kasing ere ang trabaho namin compared sa kung ano man ang trabaho mo...pero lahat kami ay may inspirasyon and that would be our lead to any of our personal motivations...wannabe rich..wannabe happy..wannabe blahblahblah...
....???...'wag ka nalang mang-discourage..sa mga katulad namin...DAHIL NAKAKATAWA KA.........punta ka dito ng makita mo..

note: since alam namin na taga PEX ka (at hindi taga Uniliver)...don't even think of altering my password for this forum.

oops pahabol: Yung Dildo mo..naiwan mo sa locker. Kunin mo na lang sa guard o sa janitor.



First of all Mr. Capricorn ask my current job, so I honestly answered it. Then this Lukyan Barsukov is starting to post flame wars to a certaing guy in PEX, said that I'm "Nakakatawa" and currently working at Pinoyexchange? huh? May GOD forgive you for blaming on someone. Kung ako nakakatawa, mas nakaktawa ka. Maski dalhin mo sa Court of Justice yang pambibintang mo, matatalo ka dahil wala kang ibidensya and I don't know you. I felt sorry for that person that you are pertaining to because I am not working in Pinoyexchange and I don't even know their office so pabayaan mo nah sya. Just in case you don't know, all of us here in PEX always respect whatever opinions they want to post.


To the people who are against me:

I'm not destroying your companies name because I didn't even mention the name of my last company. If you're greatly affected then maybe it's true. If you love your job and believe that your company offers the best, why don't you just post all positive comments regarding your company because that is the topic "Sykes, ETelecare, PeopleSupport - and the winner is?" is all about. I left the company because I want a job that is suited to my skills and I'm glad that Uniliver gave me a chance to be a part of their company.

Originally posted by Ice Burn:
I got accepted in Sykes, E-telecare and People's Support as well as BPI Call Center.
All are the same fields...Let me tell you about the salaries.

Sykes - P8000.00 starting for 2 months tapos increases depending on performance
Etelecare - P13000.00 starting
People's Support - P12000.00 starting
BPI - P11500.00 starting and increases after a year

All of them handle consumer complaints, product information and so forth...Deals with telephone and emails.

Personally, I can't stand the fact listening to people complain on the phone or even spend several hours on the phone as well as being nicey-nice to the rudest of people. So I decided not to accept any of them and travel...

E-telecare sucks because you have to be a slave to Americans. You even have to take a course to develop an American Accent.

Sykes gives a very low salary and compensation benefits for the work and they are late in salary increases which they allegedly promise.

People's Support tries to hard to get a majority CS grads from Ateneo, LaSalle and UP which I don't think CS grads would settle for a salary that low.

BPI will make you a bank slave but the training daw is good. But you know that banks have the most customer complaints.

You be the judge.


Good thing pi-nost mo yan dito for the people to know...


Paging Moderators, this thread is becoming personal...


Ang pikon ay Talo

scarab
Aug 7, 2000, 02:44 AM
oi dre mahirap maghanap ng trabaho ngayon. i mean yah i'm slaving (well not really) myself to one of the ****** companies stated in this thread but am i happy? hell yeah! but can i see myself workin' here long enough? hell no! just try to make the most out of it what you got right now. peace.

keep groovin'

roughie
Aug 7, 2000, 03:11 AM
Uy, i'm one of Sykes's middle management and it hurts me to hear flames and detractions about our company, as well as other companies which share the same nature.

To chiquoh, please do not defend yourself by saying that it is just all a matter of opinion since you said that our jobs are "stupid" and that our employees are "loosers". Your intentions are different.

I'm not here to pick a fight, but I would just like to make things clearer because your words, chiquoh, are quite disturbing and confusing as well as discouraging.

My friend once said that "its not a matter of doing what you like, but liking what you do." There are things in life which we discover later, and then we suddenly realize "this is great!" You should listen to yourself, and not to other people. So what if you finished a degree in Engineering, Math, PT, Nursing, or any other course which makes you overqualified to be a customer support representative (CSR). A degree is a degree, and it takes much more than that to be a CSR. CSR entails virtue since the very essence of your job is "helping people". Now if that's not your cup of tea, then no one's gonna push you to take it. But if it is, then go ahead and grow.

If growth, as some people see it, is having a big salary, a successful career, and a high market value, then the very bowels of society are our priests, nuns, and other non-income generating vocations. In that area, I will have to disagree with you.

You say that my job is stupid and that i am a looser, I would also have to disagree with you on that. I will never trade the smiles, cheers, heartbreaks and ordeals that I share with my officemates, whom I now consider as my close friends, for a 6 digit salary. Believe me, this isn't my first job, and for me, as a matter of opinion, I like my job, and it doesn't make me more of a looser than you are. You will have to think, why do carpenters stay carpenters? Why do sales ladies stay sales ladies? Why do farmers stay farmers? It's because they are contented with what they have? If everyone becomes a slave to ambition, this would be one chaotic world. No one would be contented.

I love my job. It's good and clean money, no matter how hard I work for it.

And I will not stand by and watch someone say it's stupid and then deny it with some hypocratic claim that it was all for the sake of "concern".

Dear man/woman, your posting did not strike our kind as "concern". It was offensive.

My apologies to you Kuya Danny, if this posting marks as "offensive".



[This message has been edited by roughie (edited 08-07-2000).]

Buffy^
Aug 7, 2000, 04:04 AM
tUmaHiMik na kayong LaHAT!!!! I think this tHREAD should be closed.... sobra na po kac eh.... magtrabaho na lang tayo... k!!!

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Mr. Capricorn
Aug 7, 2000, 07:34 AM
Hello Chiko! kamusta na???...
ang daming natutuwa/natatawa sayo dito sa office namin...hehehehe...pagpatuloy mo ang pagmamalaki mo ha?

MAGPAKATOTOO KA!...

mag-ipon ka na lang ng maraming sabon at toothpaste dyan sa Unilever, tapos bigyan mo kami sa pasko, ok?

Mr. Capricorn
Aug 7, 2000, 07:39 AM
Bisaya ka ba?
Taga Unilever-Cebu ka no?

hehehehe...ibidensya...
La lang...


Posted by ChiQuoH:
"...Maski dalhin mo sa Court of Justice yang pambibintang mo, matatalo ka dahil wala kang ibidensya and I don't know you..."

Mr. Capricorn
Aug 7, 2000, 07:41 AM
Bisaya ka ba?
Taga Unilever-Cebu ka no?

hehehehe...ibidensya...
La lang...


Posted by ChiQuoH:
"...Maski dalhin mo sa Court of Justice yang pambibintang mo, matatalo ka dahil wala kang ibidensya and I don't know you..."

Lukyan Barsukov
Aug 7, 2000, 08:37 AM
"Bai!"

OK SA KABIG HA..?!...
Para hindi ba namin mahalata kung sino ka?

May binanggit ka pang "Court of Justice"
kunwari para mas bumigat ka...pasensiya na dahil kukulangin ako ng pambayad ko sa apartment at pamalengke...

Tapos nag cut-paste ka pa ng message ng iba para tamang nasa gitna ka...(Ice Burn explains things well...unlike you na gustong makakawalang gana)

Ngayon...sinung na-Pikon?...sino ba ang NA-ASAR sa atin...
di ba IKAW...?!

Err-nee
Aug 7, 2000, 09:03 AM
agree ka naman jan...talaga naman ala kang matututunan dito e...kse *** magtuturo...customer support nga e...

pero bat ako may natutunan??? lam nyo kung ano? mag-type nang mabilis!!! (tuwa na ko dun)

Originally posted by blackblade21:
I wholeheartedly agree on what Chiquoh wrote..... Seems to me na he is/was an employee of one of these companies. Masaya lang yan sa una, then matatauhan ka din at iisipin mong wala kang matututunan dito...

Ada
Aug 7, 2000, 10:37 AM
With the way people in this thread are behaving, no company wins. I doubt that such a debate can be resolved unless someone has already worked in all three companies so he/she can make a fair comparison.

No more fighting kids. Back to work.