Grand Post International --- another scam?

[Anck-Su-Namun]

Have you heard of Grand Post International (www.gpiasia.com) which is yet another one of the those networking companies? The only diff is that they're not pushing you to sell/use their products. Their biz model is that you course your purchases through them by buying gift certificates (for now) and a swipe card in the future. You earn points when you purchase items through them. Presently, they have tie-ups with Jollibee, Wendys, Sari-Sari, and dozens of other unknown merchants.

Joining fee is P6,800 with the 6K being consumable.

I discussed this with a friend last night and he said GPI is a scam. In fact, the DTI has already issued a order to have them shut down. If that's the case, I wonder why they're still operating. They have an office at the Enterprise in Makati.

[Bea_]

I know they also have an office in binondo Regina Tower, I have friends who are members of GPI, I am not.

I'm not in the position to judge if it's a scam or not, but so far, the reason why I didn't join is because I wasn't convinced, it's just not my cup of tea to convince other people to join(once I become a member). And my friends who were members since mid-last year haven't earned anything yet, that's what I know...they're having a hard time recruiting people who'd want to shell out the P6000+ for the prepaid thing they've been telling, and the promise of earning mucho mucho.

[mupheza]

My bro's into it, and one thing he told me is that GPI is strong. He likes the system that's why he joined the group. I am a member too, kaya lang not as active as my brother. Galing nga niya eh little time lang malapit nang maging 20,000 earnings niya.

.... later....
- mupheza@yahoo.com

[Ada]

My friends are into this right now. They've all but battered down my door and dragged me by the hair in their effort to have me join them. I'm hesitant though. I've always been doubtful of networking, get-rich quick schemes. I'd appreciate more information about this company, especially if it's true that the DTI has ordered its closure.

[rains_delight]

When I attended their seminar, I could sense that there was something wrong. I started to ask myself where do they get the money to support the operations if that is their way of doing business?

I didn't join them. This is another scam.

[Bea_]

I could still remember the telemarketer's face with the excited and big-eyed look on her face when they were trying to convince me...she goes " This is the biggest thing, don't be left out...in a few weeks time, there'll be more people that will join and you'll be put on the lowest blah blah...so if I were you, sign-up now..." hehehe

And my non-member friend who was with me, the telemarketers were letting her sign this form already, talagang ang kulit nila...my friend can't say NO bluntly kaya she was being forced by the telemarketers eh, so she signed the form(na according to the members has a serial no. etc, so if you sign it right there even without paying, you will automatically be placed on the current position available) but she didn't join too...naiinis nga sya sa kakulitan.

And another thing, they won't let us have the form...di raw pwedeng ipadala sa amin, on our part naman, it's just a way of studying our options and to think about it first di ba kesa naman join ng join sus...

[spadia]

arent these MLM people annoying??
why cant they present it in a nice way
why force people to join


parang possessed sila...
hmph
and they talk nothing but their products :(

gpi?
sa pagkakaalam ko
you pay 6800...6000 consumable

but then..what's the point? saan mapupunta *** 800 mo?
so you should recruit others in order to earn

if you remove the 6000....
parang its pay 800 to join gpi..tell your friends to join..by paying 800 pesos

correct me if im wrong..
but i just hate MLM people(not all maybe hehe)

[GF2bluz]

Mag-negosyo na lang kayo.

[thehitman]

http://www.sec.gov.ph/advisory/SEC%20Advisory,04182002.pdf

You'll need Adobe Acrobat Reader to view this.

:cool:

[Bea_]

Originally posted by spadia
but i just hate MLM people(not all maybe hehe)


haha
then I'm positive that you also hate the "Family First" people? hehehe

[angst]

This is a true-blue example of a pyramid scam. My friend who's part of this bullsh*t asked me to join them but she failed to convince me after she was not able to answer my questions.

For one, they could not even define their revenue stream. In short, they don't know how will they earn money aside from the usual membership fees.

Next, when asked if how a member earns money, she told me that they earn money by recruiting people. That alone will suffice for this company to be called a scam.

Pathetic!

[bullish]

Originally posted by thehitman
http://www.sec.gov.ph/advisory/SEC%20Advisory,04182002.pdf

You'll need Adobe Acrobat Reader to view this.

:cool:

I was able to read it.

With what SEC had said, it just goes to show that even MLM companies, how legit they may seem because of the "product" that they offer, falls in the definition of the "pyramiding scheme/busines."

Guys, take time to read thehitman's link. It's worth it -- this could make you decide first before giving in to your friends' pressure.

[bullish]

Originally posted by angst
This is a true-blue example of a pyramid scam. My friend who's part of this bullsh*t asked me to join them but she failed to convince me after she was not able to answer my questions.

For one, they could not even define their revenue stream. In short, they don't know how will they earn money aside from the usual membership fees.

Next, when asked if how a member earns money, she told me that they earn money by recruiting people. That alone will suffice for this company to be called a scam.

Pathetic!

Ganun naman talaga sa "networking." Their revenues, I suspect, isn't derived from their products sales. Pabibilugin lang kayo sa kanilang illusions of grandeur.

And...this is a "cheaper" version of First Quadrant! Kasi may consumables din sila!

[Magic_Chongson]

GPI has a major come-on--a lot of young and pretty Binondo girls have already joined. :D

[Ada]

Got this from my friend. You decide whether GPI is a scam or not.

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Grand Post International

The shop and earn concept that allows you to enhance your lifestyle at the same time allow you to be financially independent.

SHOPPING CONCEPT

The company, GPI, offers you to choose from over 3,000 products. The products range from grocery items to even items like automobiles and appliances. Here are some examples of products offered by GPI,

* Gift Checks that you can use to buy from Mercury, Rustans, Jollibee, and Wendys.
* Cars – Honda, Toyota, and Ford.
* Clothing/Accessories – jeans, shirts, bags, jackets, and shoes.
* Make-Up – Avon and FL Collection products.
* Perfume/Fragrances – Dolce & Cabana and Hugo Boss.
* Watches – Guess, Casio, and Seiko.
* Reebok products.
* Electornics – Sony, Panasonic, JVC, Toshiba, and Aiwa.
* Communications – Cellular phones, prepaid call cards, and computers.
* Kodak – films and batteries.
* Food – AJI ICHIBAN, LAYS, pastries & cakes, canned goods like corned beef, Del Monte juices, and many more…
* Appliances – Kolin products, kitchenware, dinnerware, glassware, and many more…
* Insurance – PhilamLife Insurance.
* Airline tickets.
* Cinema tickets.
* Jewelry items, ballpens, eyeglasses, and furniture items.
* Little Tikes Toys and children item including pre-school products.
* Services – facial care, dental, medical, health services like Slimmers World and QUICKSLIM BODY.
* Car accessories like car shampoo, tire black, and auto polishers.

And many, many more...

The difference that GPI offers to you is you are able to earn points (called GP or Grand Points) while you shop. When you reach 6,000 GP points you automatically get a free account or SP (Stamp Point). SPs can be used in connection with GPI’s CAP or Cash Award Program and are, also, considered your lifetime earning positions. In this program, members have the privilege of earning $120 a day!

In addition, GPI also provides opportunities for you to have your own business or even tie-up your own business with GPI. GPI gives you the opportunities to know people who are into different businesses so you can get help in putting up your own or the members can even become your own customers. That’s not all! As a member you also are given a GPI GOLD CARD. This GOLD card can be used in all establishments or services that have tie-up with GPI. The card is free and does not require annual renewal fees. You can enjoy its benefits, LIFETIME!

IMPORTANT NOTE: GPI does not force you to buy or shop. You buy or shop at your convenience and only items that you need or want. There is no monthly "shopping" requirement or quotas. There are no renewal fees or annual dues to maintain your membership! You are a lifetime member upon signing up!

REFERRAL CONCEPT

In addition to availing of the discounted products of GPI, the company has a Cash Award Program (CAP) for your benefit. As a member, enjoying all the privileges of the company, you would logically have an inclination to share, what you are enjoying/experiencing, with your friends and relatives.

Now, GPI recognizes this and has prepared a program, CAP, so that in the event you have a friend or relative who would want to be a member, you can receive bonus incentives from the company. For people you are able to invite to become a member of GPI, these accounts will enable you to receive bonuses of $120 a day. In addition to receiving these bonuses, you will have the chance to become part owner or become a shareholder of GPI, which can entitle you to yearly profit sharing and additional bonuses.

IMPORTANT NOTE: This is not a "networking" or "Multi-Level marketing" concept which is, normally, characterized by selling specific products, having quotas and leveling requirements either monthly or weekly and in some cases requiring renewal fees. GPI does not force or need for you to buy a specific product. You buy what you want as long as the item is in the list of GPI but even if the product is not in the list, GPI will help you source the item and give you a discounted quotation. It is simply a membership to a company which offers quality products at discounted prices at the same time gives incentives to members who shop and would want to share the benefits to their friends and relatives so that they can enjoy the discounts and privileges as well.

HOW TO BECOME A MEMBER

To avail of the various discounts and business opportunities and a chance to be a shareholder of the company (PROFIT SHARING), you just have to sign up as a member or open an account (SP) with GPI. The membership fee is one-time and is lifetime! Unlike in traditional networking or MLM, in GPI you may open or have more than one account under your name... If you decide to have more than one account then you can double or triple your bonuses instantly!

To avail of all these benefits you only need to fill-up a Purchase Order form and invest Php6800. When you open an account, you automatically get the following…

* A lifetime membership!
* 1 Account or Stamp Point (SP)!
*1 GPI Gold Card so can enjoy discounts at many establishments with tie-ups with GPI!
* 6,000 Grand Points (GPs) which you can use to shop!
* Access to over 3,000 products and services!
* Potential to earn $120 a day including eligibility to become a shareholder of GPI entitling you to yearly profit sharing!

[tekkies]

Do they have a website ?

Originally posted by Ada
Got this from my friend. You decide whether GPI is a scam or not.

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Grand Post International

The shop and earn concept that allows you to enhance your lifestyle at the same time allow you to be financially independent.

[thehitman]

Originally posted by tekkies
Do they have a website ?



Look up, way up.

:cool:

[Anck-Su-Namun]

It looks like a scam to me. I wonder why well-known and trusted companies are willing to associate themselves with GPI. If GPI goes down, won't they be dragged along with it?

[BruceLee]

www.mygpi.informationltd.com (http://www.mygpi.informationltd.com)

Based on personal research and impressions. See for yourself.

Person-to-person marketing helps the economy. How ?

Here's how :

GPI has employed this system only to help move consumer products and services in a faster and more cost- effective way. GPI members become extensions of the marketing department of GPI's tie-up suppliers/ manufacturers and establishments. This is why leading suppliers trust the GPI concept - membership shopping coupled with person-to-person marketing. If GPI is a scam, why would leading companies tie-up with it ?

For efforts made in promoting GPI membership-shopping as an organization and encouraging people to be part of the GPI family, members are financially rewarded. GPI's incentive program does not involve any form of "commission per recruit" mechanism as this is defined to be illegal. Would you not want a reward for efforts made ? We encourage other people to join so they,too, can enjoy numerous benefits. We do not recruit. There is a difference. One need not join the rewards system, one simply needs to be a consumer. Ever gone to a mall in Makati ? Ever availed of their discount card that gives you access to perks and discounts ? Or, ever heard of encouraging friends to swap their sim cards at the same time entitling you to go abroad ? I'm sure you heard of these mechanics. Scam or not ? You decide...

If I were you, I'd check out the site above before making comments that may dilute the minds of some people. As for the others who try to discourage other people, make sure your network marketing company is legal. We pay our taxes. More taxes mean economic growth.

Would DTI want to close a company that contributes to the development of the country ? I don't thinks so. Think.

[BruceLee]

Click on this link :

http://www.mygpi.informationltd.com

or, send email :

gpi_tvm@yahoo.com


* More and more business etablishments trust the GPI concept of membership shopping coupled with person-to-person marketing.

Find out why NOW !!!

[BruceLee]

Click here (http://www.mygpi.informationltd.com)

Or email,

gpi_tvm@yahoo.com

;)

[Krakista]

Originally posted by BruceLee
Click here (http://www.mygpi.informationltd.com)

Or email,

gpi_tvm@yahoo.com

;) Bakit yahoo lang ang email address niyo? Nagmumukhang fly-by-night yung kompanya niyo. Dapat kumuha kayo ng gpi.com, gpi.com.ph o gpi.ph. :D

[mai_1]

e di dapat pala scam din ang MAKRO at PRICE MART dahil meron pang membership bago ka pa makabili sa kanila.

MAKRO - kailangan may business ka at bayad ka ng P250 (yata)annually for your ID.

PRICE MART - sa pagkakaalam ko P500 ang membership fee.

E, pag nagmember ka, obvious naman wala kang earnings dun. In fact, ikaw pa nga ang magagastusan kasi magsa-shopping ka sa kanila eh.

masyado na namang nagiging gamitin ang word na "scam".

ayan..naiinis na naman ako sa SEC, imbes na respetuhin ko sila. di ko talaga ma-take mga policies nila. para sa akin, their policies are STUPID. sorry for the word, pero asar na asar nako sa SEC. i guess i mentioned sa ibang forum dito sa PEX - sino ba ang nagpahuli ng presidente ng Glass Gow? SEC ba? Hindi po - mga investors din.

dapat kastiguhin din nila ang MAKRO at PRICE MART dahil nanghihingi ng membership fee e mamimili lang naman sa kanila ang consumers. kung talagang honest-to-goodness sila sa mga policies nila.

[diet_sarsi_pls]

I have been a member of GPI for about 1 1/2 yrs. now and here's what I have to say:

1) Cash Award Program follows a PYRAMID SCHEME for the members to earn through referrals, but it IS NOT A SCAM.
2) As a consumer, the savings on products and services are real

Am I happy with my membership? - NO
1) The products on their list (branded glasses, AV equipment,cars,etc.) aren't things I buy on a regular basis, so I don't think I am maximizing my savings and points.
2) They only have (2) places where you can do your shopping. Enterprise and Binondo.
3) Tha CAP appealed to me most but unfortunatley I suck at convincing friends, relatives and coleagues at joining anything.
4) Don't be misled into thinking it is a money-making scheme for you even if that is the way they would sell/present it. What makes sense though are the savings you can get for their products. However, I still wish they'd put up a grocery or similar where I can shop for my weekly consumptions.

...which reminds me, the GPI savings points have to be used in 2 years or else they are forfeited. ( The Stamp Points though are lifetime). So very soon I would be going on a shopping spree just to use up my points....I have WAY,WAY,WAY TOO MUCH POINTS for myself. Anyone care to join me? Just treat me to cup of coffee or snack afterwards. :bounce:

[BruceLee]

Everyone !

http://www.mygpi.informationltd.com

is an unofficial resource site created by a GPI member. This member's intention is to increase the transparency of GPI as a legit organization involved in wholesaling and retailing of products. It acts as an agent for branded products. It follows a C2B (Consumer-to-Busness model)

Like SM, it has tieups with leading manufacturers and suppliers. Members enjoy competitive or better yet, discounted items. If it were a scam, try to evaluate what MAKRO or PRICEMART is doing.

GPI is both membership shopping and person-to-person marketing. Your ONE TIME investment is consumable. May alam ba kayong kumpanya na ibinabalik ang pera sa inyo at nag-eearn pa ng points?

The GPI system may or may not work for you (even for a current member) for some reasons. If your intention to join is PURELY monetary (i.e. income) in nature, you won't succeed in this business. You need to have heart to do this. There are no shortcuts to success. You need to work hard for it. Nobody's saying the GPI business is easy. It may sound easy but it entails patience and dedication. That is why the resource site is created. You need to learn it first before you earn.

For PEx members, this is not an invitation to join the organization. It is a way of me,as a GPI member and the creator of the resource site, sharing what I believe is beautiful. You like it, check it out. You don't, no problem. Nobody's gonna say you're less of a person coz you didn't join...

Official website is :
www.gpiasia.com (http://www.gpiasia.com)

Have a happy life everyone !!!

For more details : Bruce Lee at gpi_tvm@yahoo.com

[BruceLee]

Just dropping by.... :)

www.mygpi.informationltd.com (http://www.mygpi.informationltd.com) (Unofficial Resource Center)

www.gpiasia.com (http://www.gpiasia.com) (Official site)

gpi_tvm@yahoo.com (Your Membership Consultant)

"No opportunity is lost, the other fellow takes it."

[Bizware]

Grand Post members, why don't we do a Grand EB???

[BruceLee]

not a bad idea !



myGPI One-Stop Learning Center here (http://www.mygpi.informationltd.com)

[temptingrose]

Bruce Lee, Why is your One-Stop Learning Center page not working from my end?
Can you send the page to me?
Thanks in advance.

With regards to the DTI stuff, is it true, Anck-Su-Namun?
So my friends are now in trouble, like that?:)

[mupheza]

Originally posted by Bizware
Grand Post members, why don't we do a Grand EB???


cge!!! It'll be fun!!! :D

[BruceLee]

temptingrose,

the unofficial resource site for the GPI joint venture business can be found at :

http://www.mygpi.informationltd.com

or,

http://connect.to/mygpi (mirror site)


(Note: Comparative information found in the resource site are based on researches and impressions by the creator. It is recommended that individual researches be made. "Learn before you Earn.")


Have a good life !!!

[SaintLuci]

legit or not, here is my answer...

GPI, and all these membership shopping, works on this vision:

if you cannot beat the competitors (the other suppliers) because your product is not as competetive as theirs (probably) or because you are weak in penetrating the market, eliminate them from your shoppers minds by "HOOKING" the consumers to your "scheme" or marketing programs...

in the end, as a consumer, you have lost your time & money because primarily you have lost your freedom of choice (that includes freedom to choose your supplier) because you are hooked into this membership and should make SULIT of it... it costed 6,800 in the first place...

[temptingrose]

well, medyo di nga talaga ko maconvince, i'm trying to be open to it...magpapaconvince ba ko? all my hard-earned money? (well, di naman all)...
bakit me mga ganito ng mga groups/ companies ngayon?
as in lahat na yata kung super closed minded ka, di mo papatulan dahil aakalain mo kasi katulad din sya ng iba.

[BruceLee]

New things come out every now and then... here's the thing...

" No opportunity is lost, the other fellow takes it."

Where would you be in a parade? The participant or the observer ? I suggest you learn things, get the feel of the industry, then act on whatever you decide to act on.

I once came across this passage, " Do not work for money, let money work for you."

[BruceLee]

FYI PEXers :
Tomas Morato Branch Office soon to open !!!

Another perk for GPI members. GPI Gold Card is the way to go !

Have a good life everyone.

[SaintLuci]

honestly speaking, I am one of the open-minded people. and yes I have looked into GPI before and other "membership" groups. And yes, you are correct in saying no opportunity is lost that the other fellow takes it truly. But what is this opportunity? Initialy it was good opportunity for business explansion. On the otherhand, it's the opportunity to lose my freedom to choose my suppliers just to earn back this 6,800.

Originally posted by BruceLee
New things come out every now and then... here's the thing...

" No opportunity is lost, the other fellow takes it."