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slowhand_twang
Jun 18, 2003, 09:03 AM
My wife and I are thinking of having our first born in the US late this year. Any advice or comments? :confused:

Fairy_nd_meadow
Jun 18, 2003, 09:07 AM
If I were you, yes, why not? There are advantages in being a US citizen, right? And I presume you can raise your child either in the Phils or in the US and still teach him/her Phil. values.

Does it still hold true that he will have dual citizenship (i.e., the mere fact that he or she's born in the US automatically makes him a US citizen, and because he/she has Filipino parents makes him/her a Filipino citizen, too.) If so, you get the best of both worlds. :flower:

milkyman
Jun 18, 2003, 06:12 PM
if you are planning on raising it there, speak to them in tagalog first. teach them our native language first. english will come naturally of course since you are planning on having your first born there. don't be like the hundreds of parents out there who try ever so hard to assimilate their kids to western culture. don't look at our native language as a flaw. teach them properly, inlcuding our accent. the english twang comes naturally too after being raised there. anyway, good luck.

dudelish
Jun 18, 2003, 06:36 PM
oh yeah and fercrissakes, teach them to respond properly when being spoken to. if spoken to in tagalog, tell them to respond in tagalog. if spoken to in english, tell them to respond in english.

and don't forget to teach them the bad filipino words when they're older, para hindi sila pagkakatuwaan ng ibang pinoy from the philippines.

milkyman
Jun 18, 2003, 06:38 PM
ahahaha yeah. down with taglish! taglish is gay. very.

Mickey2000
Jun 19, 2003, 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by milkyman
if you are planning on raising it there, speak to them in tagalog first. teach them our native language first. english will come naturally of course since you are planning on having your first born there. don't be like the hundreds of parents out there who try ever so hard to assimilate their kids to western culture. don't look at our native language as a flaw. teach them properly, inlcuding our accent. the english twang comes naturally too after being raised there. anyway, good luck. Ok yung ganito kapag pareho kayong pinoy,ako nahihirapan,gusto ko turuan ng tagalog yung anak ko,kaya lang kapag daddy nya kinakausap eh english naman,eh sabi ng mga psychologist,ma-co-confused daw kapag tinuturuan ng two language at the same time,pwede lang daw kapag marunong na marunong ng magsalita or kaya naman nag-aaral na.Kaya ayun,english na lang.:(

milkyman
Jun 19, 2003, 02:07 AM
di ko alam kung bakit ang mga magulang nakarating lang sa ibang bansa ay nagdadalawang isip kung anong wika ang dapat munang ituro sa bata. dahilan ba ang pagnanasa na maunawaan sila ng mga taga ibang bansa?

milkyman
Jun 19, 2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Mickey2000
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Ok yung ganito kapag pareho kayong pinoy,ako nahihirapan,gusto ko turuan ng tagalog yung anak ko,kaya lang kapag daddy nya kinakausap eh english naman,eh sabi ng mga psychologist,ma-co-confused daw kapag tinuturuan ng two language at the same time,pwede lang daw kapag marunong na marunong ng magsalita or kaya naman nag-aaral na.Kaya ayun,english na lang.:(

its up to you. if your kid's a hapa then its really up to both of you to decide but don't you think it would be better if he knew both? like i said living in a foreign country would instantly teach your kid it's native language but learning a foreign language in your native country is much harder. your kid can learn english easily.

Mickey2000
Jun 19, 2003, 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by milkyman
di ko alam kung bakit ang mga magulang nakarating lang sa ibang bansa ay nagdadalawang isip kung anong wika ang dapat munang ituro sa bata. dahilan ba ang pagnanasa na maunawaan sila ng mga taga ibang bansa? Hindi naman sa nagdadalawang isip,eh kasi american naman hubby ko,kaya ganon,kaya siguro mas madali nang turuan ng ibang language kapag derecho na yung salita,ayoko namang maging ala-Maria Theresa Calrson yung anak ko,na "si ako, si ikaw",sabagay,uso na rin naman sa Pilipinas yung word na "si me" :D

slowhand_twang
Jun 19, 2003, 04:32 AM
Originally posted by Fairy_nd_meadow
If I were you, yes, why not? There are advantages in being a US citizen, right? And I presume you can raise your child either in the Phils or in the US and still teach him/her Phil. values.

Does it still hold true that he will have dual citizenship (i.e., the mere fact that he or she's born in the US automatically makes him a US citizen, and because he/she has Filipino parents makes him/her a Filipino citizen, too.) If so, you get the best of both worlds. :flower:

Best of both worlds exactly......Were definitely raising our kid here in the Phils. No place like home. I just want my kid to have a second option later in life just in case things don't go well here. Thanks for the advice.
:)

CraZyInLuV
Jun 19, 2003, 07:52 AM
i did the same. it gives the kid a lot more options when he grows up. we never know what's gonna happen to the philippines.
and with the dual citizenship bill being passed sometime soon, the better.

it's going to cost you a lot more though.
depends on where you plan to stay.

Mickey2000
Jun 19, 2003, 11:21 PM
http://www.homestead.com/disneywonder/files/loveforthemouse.gifif ever its a cs section, prepared at least $50k,I have no idea how much it cost for normal birth.goodluck!

Fairy_nd_meadow
Jun 19, 2003, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Mickey2000
http://www.homestead.com/disneywonder/files/loveforthemouse.gifif ever its a cs section, prepared at least $50k,I have no idea how much it cost for normal birth.goodluck!

One good thing in Canada is that this is free.

I even know of one Filipino family here who just came to Canada. After two months their daughter had appendicitis and had to be operated on as soon as possible. Even if they do not have the OHIP yet, they brought their child to Sick Kids Hospital and the operation was free! Their family doctor even gave them free medicines. This is what I'm proud of in Canada. They really make sure that the needs of the kids are met. And even if life is really hard for us parents, if you give everything for our children, you have our loyalty and obedience.... :*)

Ice Burn
Jun 20, 2003, 04:12 AM
Just make sure you have enough money or have insurance to pay for medical expenses. Healthcare in the US is insane and even with insurance, it's still insane!!! So even if you want best of both worlds, unless you have enough moolah to shoulder the medical expenses you might still need to think twice about such a decision.

(Better yet, get your wife to give birth on the US embassy grounds. :lol: )

Mickey2000
Jun 21, 2003, 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by Fairy_nd_meadow
One good thing in Canada is that this is [B]free.
Free din naman dito kung covered ka ng Medicaid,even my post pregnancy medication, my baby's vitamins,his shot was complete and It didn't cost me a penny,kaya lang alam ko kasi nakita ko yung billing papers na para sa Medicaid,but I have no idea kung pwede kang magpa-Medicaid kapag Tourist lang ang status nyo.
Maganda lang talaga kasi after ka manganak,may health worker na dadalaw sa iyo every two weeks to check the mom and the baby's condition,as in minomonitor nilang mabuti,hindi ka papalabasin ng hospital kapag wala kang carseat.Tapos sila pa kumuha ng SSS number para sa baby ko,ewan ko lang kung ganon talaga ,sabi kasi ng Auntie ko 20 yrs ago,hindi daw eh:D .Everything you need after the pregnancy is only a *phone* call away.

doc_irene
Jun 28, 2003, 12:10 AM
good idea. if you can do it, y not?
my son was also born here in the US. luckily we were covered under Medi-Cal so it didn't cost us a single cent, even my pre-natal and post-partum check-ups. pati nga health insurance covered din eh.
your child would also have dual citizenship.

pinkpotato
Jun 28, 2003, 04:16 AM
I've never heard of Medicaid or Medi-Cal before. parang insurance din ba yan? how much did you pay for that?

doc_irene
Jun 28, 2003, 04:23 AM
Originally posted by pinkpotato
I've never heard of Medicaid or Medi-Cal before. parang insurance din ba yan? how much did you pay for that?

insurance yon funded by the government or whichever state you're residing, like Medi-Cal sa california yun. each state has its own program para sa mga low-cost or free insurance. it's free pag nameet mo yung requirements nila or kung eligible ka.:)

pinkpotato
Jun 28, 2003, 04:30 AM
Originally posted by doc_irene
insurance yon funded by the government or whichever state you're residing, like Medi-Cal sa california yun. each state has its own program para sa mga low-cost or free insurance. it's free pag nameet mo yung requirements nila or kung eligible ka.:)

ahh, ok. thanks! *okay*

kasi here in michigan i haven't heard of a free insurance like that. i'm not sure if we have one here. baka di ko lang alam.

doc_irene
Jun 28, 2003, 04:33 AM
Originally posted by pinkpotato
ahh, ok. thanks! *okay*

kasi here in michigan i haven't heard of a free insurance like that. i'm not sure if we have one here. baka di ko lang alam.

check mo yung website ng state of michigan. usually under yon sa department of social services. they also have this great program for women, infant and children, WIC for short.

pinkpotato
Jun 28, 2003, 05:02 AM
Originally posted by doc_irene
check mo yung website ng state of michigan. usually under yon sa department of social services. they also have this great program for women, infant and children, WIC for short.

i see....

i don't have a baby and di ako preggy pero at least may alam na ko. :)

doc_irene
Jun 28, 2003, 05:10 AM
Originally posted by pinkpotato
i see....

i don't have a baby and di ako preggy pero at least may alam na ko. :)


oppsss, sowee....:D

pinkpotato
Jun 28, 2003, 09:48 PM
Originally posted by doc_irene
oppsss, sowee....:D

oh don't be. na-curious lang ako kaya I was asking questions. :)

zarlatora
Jul 4, 2003, 01:28 PM
hi!!!

covered din ako ng Medi-Cal, and i also have WIC (Women Infants & Children, they give me food stamps for nutrition for the baby and the pregnant mommy w/c will last til my child is six years old)

you just have to ask around... i think the Medi-Cal you can get it regardless of status, as long as you'll be able to prove that someone will financially support you.

:flwrface:

CraZyInLuV
Jul 8, 2003, 01:25 AM
zarlatora,

are you still in cali? have you encountered any problems with going back and forth from the Philippines to the US?
am asking coz i have a friend who was covered by Medi-cal to, but went back to the philippines after giving birth. she's worried about the hassle when she goes back to the US

aajao
Jul 8, 2003, 10:18 AM
while family benefits are far way better in the US/Canada than the Philippines, there is nothing that can replace Filipino family values. However you teach your children the Filipino values if their community or environment practices otherwise, it will just be a tough effort on the parents' part to instill in them how they should "behave" as Filipinos.

One thing very important about being Filipino is the family values that we have been practising even before we found our country's independence. No matter how 'expensive' it is to raise kids here, no value can ever replace the values that they will live up to until they come to have a family of their own. :rpflag:

just my two cents. :)

AnDrOid_007
Jul 8, 2003, 10:57 AM
Originally posted by aajao
while family benefits are far way better in the US/Canada than the Philippines, there is nothing that can replace Filipino family values. However you teach your children the Filipino values if their community or environment practices otherwise, it will just be a tough effort on the parents' part to instill in them how they should "behave" as Filipinos.

One thing very important about being Filipino is the family values that we have been practising even before we found our country's independence. No matter how 'expensive' it is to raise kids here, no value can ever replace the values that they will live up to until they come to have a family of their own. :rpflag:

just my two cents. :)

Uhmmmm... Truly! hehe :wave:

noriel
Jul 12, 2003, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by slowhand_twang
My wife and I are thinking of having our first born in the US late this year. Any advice or comments? :confused:

Just ask for epidural anesthesia..;)

ansons
Jul 17, 2003, 04:29 PM
maswerte talaga maging born in the USA.

syempre! U.S. VISA YAN!!!


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Ice Burn
Jul 17, 2003, 06:20 PM
Ansons... Those born in the US do not get US visas but US citizenships.