question for call center people

[sabot]

i know that there are a lot of threads regarding call centers..

pero i just want to ask lg po..

does it make you feel good that you, as an employee of a call center, are actually kissing america's a$$?

i mean, yeah, you're getting the money, helping yourself or your family..

but, do you think that you're helping the nation by what you are doing?

i mean, even if the president declares a certain day to be a non-working holiday, may pasok pa din kayo..

or kahit ano pa dyan, may pasok pa din kasi bossing mo kano hindi pinoy..

pano yan?

thanks :)

[neth_row]

Errr, is it any different when you watch movies produced by Americans? Or when you eat at restaurants established by Americans?

McDonalds is owned by Americans. Coca-Cola is owned by Americans. Do you feel good when you buy products from them?

[sabot]

Originally posted by neth_row
Errr, is it any different when you watch movies produced by Americans? Or when you eat at restaurants established by Americans?

McDonalds is owned by Americans. Coca-Cola is owned by Americans. Do you feel good when you buy products from them?

well, in a way, there's a difference...i mean we don't consume coca-cola or mcdonalds 24/7 right? we also buy Filipino products. and if we watch american films to enhance our knowledge to make better films for Star Cinema then that could benefit the Filipino people. or if we listen to american metal acts to create our own sound in the process, then that could also benefit the Filipino music industry.

But what about working for a call center? besides getting the green, how can it help the nation?

[HoRnY4NiE]

it produce more jobs...as simple as that!

[neth_row]

Why is working in a contact center considered as "kissing america's a$s" again? :glee:

[SoliduS_AlphA]

Originally posted by HoRnY4NiE
it produce more jobs...as simple as that!
its better to be in a call center than to be a big time bum.
san ba may job opening?

[kengkay]

Originally posted by SoliduS_AlphA
its better to be in a call center than to be a big time bum.
san ba may job opening?

i agree ...

[syk_man_agoqui]

at least may trabaho sa hirap ng buhay ngayon at sa hirap makakuha ng trabaho ok na yan... kung *** mga iba nanginigbang bansa para maka kuha ng trabaho eh di *** kiss rin sila kung ganun hay naku... ganito talaga sa pilipinas discrimination sa status of living mo parang operator ka lang, saleslady ka lang, karpintero ka lang, pero sa ibang bansa di naman ganun eh.. at least earning ng pera sa tamang paraan

[LinuxMandrake]

does it make you feel good that you, as an employee of a call center, are actually kissing america's a$$?
how bout you? who's foreigner's a$$ are you kissing?
i mean, yeah, you're getting the money, helping yourself or your family..
darn right!
but, do you think that you're helping the nation by what you are doing?
with all the taxes the government is getting out of my salary, malamang oo...
i mean, even if the president declares a certain day to be a non-working holiday, may pasok pa din kayo..
ayos lang... keep 'em coming...
or kahit ano pa dyan, may pasok pa din kasi bossing mo kano hindi pinoy..
double pay... hehehe...
pano yan?
i smell a disgruntled person here... try shifting to our industry and see for yourself. liit siguro sweldo mo kaya ganyan ka magsalita... tsk tsk tsk... boohoohoo...

[janniebee]

SABOT asked " how can people from the call center industry help the nation? "

SIMPLE answer... big boost in economy. foreign inverstors land in the philippines just to open big businesses that will help not just the Filipino people but the NATION as well. Lot of job offers for those who finished high school pa lang. And you are correct! We are working for the Americans. But what difference does it make working for an American and working for a Filipino owned or managed company. D ba wala? Kasi under ka rin naman nila. Kahit na anong lahi pa ng superior mo, parepareho lang yan.

[sabot]

Originally posted by LinuxMandrake
how bout you? who's foreigner's a$$ are you kissing?

darn right!

with all the taxes the government is getting out of my salary, malamang oo...

ayos lang... keep 'em coming...

double pay... hehehe...

i smell a disgruntled person here... try shifting to our industry and see for yourself. liit siguro sweldo mo kaya ganyan ka magsalita... tsk tsk tsk... boohoohoo...



Woah...I was just asking a "question" sonny boy and I never meant to post it just so I could make anyone in here feel like S.H.I.T.

And besides Linux dude, I WORK FOR A CALL CENTER so don't tell me that I don't know S.H.I.T. about this industry.

I just want to know if other people out there feel this way as well.


Talk about being disgruntled..geez :rolleyes:

[sabot]

pahabol lang k linux...

kung hindi ako nagtatrabaho sa call center, i wouldn't give a sH.I.T. about it.

bow.

[kennster]

well sabot, u really couldnt blame LinuxMandrake for his response.. who are u to say that wer kissing america's a$$ if wer workin' in a call center.. that's really pretty shallow.. btw, i also work for a call center.. and it's better than being a patriotic bum.. Peace y'all :)

[sabot]

well it's a thought of course, and i would like to know if others also feel that way. doesn't matter if it's shallow, stupid or whatever. that's all. if no one feels the same way, then good. and if someone feels the same way, then good also.

[driven]

sabot: i think they're irate because of the way you posed your questions/ statements.

Anyways, I really don't mind working for one since good work is really hard to find especially with the economic situation. I hope it doesn't get really bad even if FPJ wins (Please don't let him win!). I used to get P6000 a month plus overtime pay plus stress and it isn't worth it. In a call center, I get paid double plus other benefits that I didnt get from my previous employment and the stress is still there. I also kick American *** since I provide the answers to their problems since they have lazy/ dumb asses

[driven]

Let me rephrase my last sentence. I DON'T kiss American asses. It's my *** they kiss to give the answers to their problems.

[kennster]

well, i dont feel that i kiss american's a$$.. in fact, it's my a$$ that

they should kiss if they want their problems solved "properly"..

hehehe :D :evilgrin: :howdy:

[LinuxMandrake]

Originally posted by sabot
Woah...I was just asking a "question" sonny boy and I never meant to post it just so I could make anyone in here feel like S.H.I.T.

And besides Linux dude, I WORK FOR A CALL CENTER so don't tell me that I don't know S.H.I.T. about this industry.

I just want to know if other people out there feel this way as well.


Talk about being disgruntled..geez :rolleyes:

oh for real? look who's talking man! who do you think is the one who's disgruntled? i'm outside the country right now because the company sent me... don't see any reason why i should be disgruntled... in fact, dude, i'm quite happy with my job. though by the questions you ask, it seems you are not happy at all. hohum...

[bigbadwolf]

LinuxMandrake... wala siguro tong nakuha kundi irate callers.

:lol:

[LinuxMandrake]

Originally posted by bigbadwolf
LinuxMandrake... wala siguro tong nakuha kundi irate callers.

:lol:
hehehe... siguro nga...

Originally posted by sabot
mean, even if the president declares a certain day to be a non-working holiday, may pasok pa din kayo..
aha! i therefore conclude na ikaw ay nagtatrabaho sa call center na local ang account... most likely finances ang hawak mo. you don't feel na ang pagod mo ay compensated sa sweldong nakukuha mo. malamang collector ka ng isang bangko... isang hardcore na naniningil at nakikipagaway sa mga sinisingil mo. naiinggit ka sa amin, since we "kiss american's a$$e$", we get more than you, who kiss locals' a$$e$, and still don't get paid right.

anyways, ok lang yan bro... if the concept of kiss-a$$ is securing your child's future soonest time possible, then yeah guilty ako dun. love peace and menudo grease!

jericho, pagbalik ko inom tayo! sayo beer, akin kwento. hehehe...

[spadia]

well..if working for call centers, that means there are foreign investment, in turn we also remit taxes to our local govt
you also get to learn their technology, so when you resign you might use the acquired knowledge
( As you see, there are Filipino owned call centers propping up


if we were good enough...we can start conquer the world market..like coca cola..mcdonald's...
sadly we cant...it will take years and years...

Aside from call centers, we also talk about foreign owned manufacturing plants n factories......
take a look at China, so many foreign owned companies...
it helped the economy ....these in turn will benefit the locals
ex. computer parts n peripherals..China now has its own brand of pc..motherboard..lcd monitors..flash drives...quite good isnt it?

we should be happy that these foreign companies are sharing with us their technology and company secrets..

[kennster]

Nice one Linux.. Hahaha.. Paging sabot, wer waiting for ur reply! :D

[ambertookme]

wala pa si sabot, nag ha-handle pa ng calls.

[sabot]

Uh, ba't parang lahat nawawarla? hehe.. Simpleng topic. Simpleng tanong lamang po. Ba't parang galit kayong lahat? Anyway, pasensya na ha. Peace everyone. To those who answered well, thank you!

Originally posted by LinuxMandrake


aha! i therefore conclude na ikaw ay nagtatrabaho sa call center na local ang account... most likely finances ang hawak mo. you don't feel na ang pagod mo ay compensated sa sweldong nakukuha mo. malamang collector ka ng isang bangko... isang hardcore na naniningil at nakikipagaway sa mga sinisingil mo. naiinggit ka sa amin, since we "kiss american's a$$e$", we get more than you, who kiss locals' a$$e$, and still don't get paid right.



Anyway, going back to lolo redhot linux..

This is not about the money. I was just simply asking how it could help the nation. And I really don't know why you keep on insisting that it's all about the moolah. Mayaman ka na siguro no kaya wala kayong sariling floor sa _____ :D jk!

Anyway, it's like being a college prof. and getting a low salary and still feeling good because you are directly sharing your knowledge to the Filipino people and they in turn will lead the nation, etc etc. For me, getting all the big bucks from a call center and doing the same thing everyday and talking to Americans, Indians etc etc and helping them instead of the others IN A WAY is not as fulfilling as being a high school teacher. (Speak your mind). Opinyon lang yan ha. O sige..warla ulit hehe

Thanks to everyone who answered.

To Driven: never meant to be irate. of course.

To spadia: salamat sa insights!

[sabot]

Originally posted by LinuxMandrake
oh for real? look who's talking man! who do you think is the one who's disgruntled? i'm outside the country right now because the company sent me... don't see any reason why i should be disgruntled... in fact, dude, i'm quite happy with my job. though by the questions you ask, it seems you are not happy at all. hohum...

"ixnay on the condescensionAY there, Chet" ;)

[=penny_lane=]

im sorry that there isnt a more politically-correct way of saying this, but i think that this is a stupid question! and that's precisely why most of the people who've posted their answers seem irate or annoyed.

first of all, i am not kissing america's ***, and neither are any of those who work in call centers with foreign clients. it's america that needs our services, and they pay us for it! their money for my hard work, both parties are happy and no one is at the losing end.

do i feel like i am helping my country? hell, yeah! because i spend all of my hard-earned money to bolster the economy! :lol:

ewan ko sa 'yo, pero kami wala ring pasok during the holidays. :) and dude, think about the people who work for pldt (telephone operators), those who work in the malls (sales associates), and those who work in local contact centers (globe, smart, ISPs). sila, may pasok din pag holidays. but do you go questioning them and posing all sorts of imaginary moral dilemmas?

common sense! :rolleyes:

[LinuxMandrake]

Originally posted by =penny_lane=
im sorry that there isnt a more politically-correct way of saying this, but i think that this is a stupid question! and that's precisely why most of the people who've posted their answers seem irate or annoyed.

first of all, i am not kissing america's ***, and neither are any of those who work in call centers with foreign clients. it's america that needs our services, and they pay us for it! their money for my hard work, both parties are happy and no one is at the losing end.

do i feel like i am helping my country? hell, yeah! because i spend all of my hard-earned money to bolster the economy! :lol:

ewan ko sa 'yo, pero kami wala ring pasok during the holidays. :) and dude, think about the people who work for pldt (telephone operators), those who work in the malls (sales associates), and those who work in local contact centers (globe, smart, ISPs). sila, may pasok din pag holidays. but do you go questioning them and posing all sorts of imaginary moral dilemmas?

common sense! :rolleyes:

ur right here penny lane... saludo ako sayo...:rpflag:

pare... ah este mareng sabot, ganito lang yan. win win situation yan. we need jobs and they are here to help boost the economy by giving jobs to many, para may mahuthot ang gubyerno sa mga sweldo natin sa pamamagitan ng buwis. eto ang kasagutan sa tanong mo na pano tayo makakatulong sa kanayunan. alam mo ba kung bakit sila nandito? dahil mura ang labor natin... a CCM's salary in the states is enough to pay 120 agents dito sa pinas... kung ikaw ang kapitalista, sankapa di ba? malamang pupunta ka dito sa pinas, kasi magaling magingles ang mga tao dito at mura ang pasweldo...:greed:

Originally posted by sabot
And besides Linux dude, I WORK FOR A CALL CENTER so don't tell me that I don't know S.H.I.T. about this industry.

I just want to know if other people out there feel this way as well.
wala akong masasabi dito. to each his own. ika nga, ignorance is bliss...

Originally posted by sabot
Anyway, it's like being a college prof. and getting a low salary and still feeling good because you are directly sharing your knowledge to the Filipino people and they in turn will lead the nation, etc etc.

mind you my friend, being a teacher, or a priest, or any kind of work that helps mold minds of people in society, IMHO, is more of a calling than just a job. again, to each his own.

if i were you, i'd reflect more on the questions i am about to post, para walang ganitong mga reactions. it's ok to speak your mind, heck, this is a democratic country. pero kukwestynin mo ang morality ng mga nagtatrabaho sa call center, eh talagang may mga reactions na ganito...:ghost:

peace na tayo magbabagong taon na... hehehe... *okay*

[LinuxMandrake]

This is not about the money. I was just simply asking how it could help the nation. And I really don't know why you keep on insisting that it's all about the moolah. Mayaman ka na siguro no kaya wala kayong sariling floor sa _____ jk!

hindi pa naman... hehehe... but i'm getting there. love peace and menudo grease!:cool:

Uh, ba't parang lahat nawawarla? hehe.. Simpleng topic. Simpleng tanong lamang po. Ba't parang galit kayong lahat? Anyway, pasensya na ha. Peace everyone. To those who answered well, thank you!

sana maintindihan mo na hindi din biro ang ginagawa natin (kung call center ka nga), ang murahin ng ibang taong hindi tayo pinapakain... our job is as decent as any other traditional job out there, plus we get the benefit of saving up simply because mas malaki ang pasweldo dito. you have a point (o yan ha? baka sabihin mo inaaway na naman kita) about being a person who can help mold minds, pero ako as a trainer, i also help in the sense that i share what i know to the trainees, so in turn, they can work and make money. and the government will be happy again, daming taxes to be collected. kaya tayo'y magsaya at tumoma na lang as we wait for 2004... :rocker::cheers:*partygoer*

[the_BuGs]

sabot : paki sagot nga yung tawag ko sa iyo.. pex ka ng pex eh!

[sabot]

Originally posted by =penny_lane=
im sorry that there isnt a more politically-correct way of saying this, but i think that this is a stupid question! and that's precisely why most of the people who've posted their answers seem irate or annoyed.

first of all, i am not kissing america's ***, and neither are any of those who work in call centers with foreign clients. it's america that needs our services, and they pay us for it! their money for my hard work, both parties are happy and no one is at the losing end.

do i feel like i am helping my country? hell, yeah! because i spend all of my hard-earned money to bolster the economy! :lol:

ewan ko sa 'yo, pero kami wala ring pasok during the holidays. :) and dude, think about the people who work for pldt (telephone operators), those who work in the malls (sales associates), and those who work in local contact centers (globe, smart, ISPs). sila, may pasok din pag holidays. but do you go questioning them and posing all sorts of imaginary moral dilemmas?

common sense! :rolleyes:


doble. sorry

[sabot]

Originally posted by =penny_lane=
im sorry that there isnt a more politically-correct way of saying this, but i think that this is a stupid question! and that's precisely why most of the people who've posted their answers seem irate or annoyed.

first of all, i am not kissing america's ***, and neither are any of those who work in call centers with foreign clients. it's america that needs our services, and they pay us for it! their money for my hard work, both parties are happy and no one is at the losing end.

do i feel like i am helping my country? hell, yeah! because i spend all of my hard-earned money to bolster the economy! :lol:

ewan ko sa 'yo, pero kami wala ring pasok during the holidays. :) and dude, think about the people who work for pldt (telephone operators), those who work in the malls (sales associates), and those who work in local contact centers (globe, smart, ISPs). sila, may pasok din pag holidays. but do you go questioning them and posing all sorts of imaginary moral dilemmas?

common sense! :rolleyes:


ms. penny lane, as i've said, it's a thought. and i would like to know if others feel the same way or not. doesn't matter if no one agrees, as long as i get answers. that's why i posted this topic in the first place because i want to know how you guys feel. simple as that. i mean, you answered and i want to thank you for that.

i never proclaimed that you all are slaves to the red white and blue or unconscious victims of the land of the free. diba?

baka yan ang pumapasok sa isipan nyo kaya kayo lahat nawawarla.

eh, pardon me, but i never posted this topic to make anyone feel bad (why would i diba?)

eh un lang po

[sabot]

Originally posted by LinuxMandrake




sana maintindihan mo na hindi din biro ang ginagawa natin (kung call center ka nga), ang murahin ng ibang taong hindi tayo pinapakain... our job is as decent as any other traditional job out there, plus we get the benefit of saving up simply because mas malaki ang pasweldo dito. you have a point (o yan ha? baka sabihin mo inaaway na naman kita) about being a person who can help mold minds, pero ako as a trainer, i also help in the sense that i share what i know to the trainees, so in turn, they can work and make money. and the government will be happy again, daming taxes to be collected. kaya tayo'y magsaya at tumoma na lang as we wait for 2004... :rocker::cheers:*partygoer*


thanks for the insights. yan lang po ang hinahanap ko galing sayo. not a fight club part 2 and i hope we're clear on that na po. :D

pero kukwestynin mo ang morality ng mga nagtatrabaho sa call center, eh talagang may mga reactions na ganito...

wala po akong intensyon na tirahin kayong lahat. siguro, you all misunderstood it lang. i asked the same question to my team and none of them gave a negative reaction. they simply answered it. and i learned a few things and i'm learning from all of you as well.

kaya nga nagulat ako because i was just asking. mostly opinionated ang statements ko and most of them end in a question mark diba? <--just like that hehe

[sabot]

Originally posted by ambertookme
wala pa si sabot, nag ha-handle pa ng calls.

nah, i don't handle calls...i only use the headset pag may conference chuva. dyan lg ako sa tabi2 ;)

[LinuxMandrake]

Originally posted by SoliduS_AlphA
its better to be in a call center than to be a big time bum.
san ba may job opening?

pare try epixtar... look for arthur kevin rabago... sya ata ang HR dun eh...

or you can try us out. itouchpoint, 22/f IBM Plaza Eastwood. malayo nga lang sa sibilisasyon, pero pag pumasa ka, sulit. leave ur resume sa front desk, or look for either jen rodriguez or charlene pestaño. indicate my name (alan cruz) as your reference, baka sakaling mauna sa pila... hehehe... no promises though ok? good luck. i think batch 45 will start by january 5, kung pumasa ka batch 46 ka siguro. cheers!

[driven]

Epixtar? Naku! Ang gulu-gulo nila run! My friends want to move out of the company. Hanggang ngayon wala rin nangyayari dun sa mga workstations nila. They're still stuck in 1 small floor.

[Una_dagmar]

Convergys po. Punta lang kayo sa Ortigas or Makati centers namin, or email your resume so I could submit it to our recruitment department: una_dagmar@yahoo.com.

[=penny_lane=]

Originally posted by sabot
i never proclaimed that you all are slaves to the red white and blue or unconscious victims of the land of the free. diba?

baka yan ang pumapasok sa isipan nyo kaya kayo lahat nawawarla.

eh, pardon me, but i never posted this topic to make anyone feel bad (why would i diba?)



first of all, i dont feel bad. napapakamot lang ako ng ulo sa mga tanong mong di pinag-isipang mabuti. before you say that you never proclaimed anything, try re-reading your very first post. eto at ika-cut and paste ko para maalala mo:

"does it make you feel good that you, as an employee of a call center, are actually kissing america's a$$?

i mean, yeah, you're getting the money, helping yourself or your family..

but, do you think that you're helping the nation by what you are doing? "

you're right. you didnt say we are slaves. you just said that we "are actually kissing america's a$$."

eh kung ikaw kaya sabihan ng ganyan, di ka kaya mairita? i think the lesson here is to think before you post. read and re-read, then ask yourself, "did that actually make sense or am i merely making myself sound like a dumb pr|ck?"

:p

[Una_dagmar]

Honestly, when I first read this thread, I wanted to join the bandwagon and wreak havoc on Sabot's sly comments. Upon reviewing all the post (so far) I could also see Sabot's point. Only, I wish the posted words were better phrased so that they won't seem to be cocky and insulting.

Hey, in the call center industry (or any story/side to reality), there is always two sides to the coin. If Sabot says we're kissing American ***, then the Americans are furious with us as well since we're taking away their jobs. That's the bad side. The good of it all can be seen in being able to bring in foreign investors into the country to give the economy a little boost. The US investors on the other hand earn more since they are able to cut costs.

You kiss my ***, I'll kiss yours. Scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. *** for tat. No hustle, no bustle.

[wishiwashi]

Join http://pinoycallcenter.proboards24.com/

[LinuxMandrake]

ako din primarily, napatumbling ako sa mga tanong, that's why the reaction...

[sabot]

Originally posted by =penny_lane=

[quote]
before you say that you never proclaimed anything, try re-reading your very first post. eto at ika-cut and paste ko para maalala mo:

"does it make you feel good that you, as an employee of a call center, are actually kissing america's a$$?

i mean, yeah, you're getting the money, helping yourself or your family..

but, do you think that you're helping the nation by what you are doing? "

you're right. you didnt say we are slaves. you just said that we "are actually kissing america's a$$."

alright. pardon de moi. wrong sentence structure. i meant to say, "do you think you're kissing america's ***? and if you think you do, do u feel good about it?"--something like that.



first of all, i dont feel bad. napapakamot lang ako ng ulo sa mga tanong mong di pinag-isipang mabuti. ...eh kung ikaw kaya sabihan ng ganyan, di ka kaya mairita? i think the lesson here is to think before you post. read and re-read, then ask yourself, "did that actually make sense or am i merely making myself sound like a dumb pr|ck?"[/quote
[/B]

ooohhhhh :crazytongue:...and i'll say it again: "ixnay on the condescensionAY there, ms. bandaid" (and yes, penny lane never considered herself as a "groupie"). :)


doesn't matter if i meant to insult you or if i only wanted to know if you feel that you are a little sheep waiting to be trained in texas. the thing is, i thought about the questions/comments. most people here answered it very well. and even linux got the job done in the end in spite of the fact that his first reaction was the typical sphincter boy response (maybe just to pi$$ me off, but it doesn't matter because this is a forum).

well, maybe we both should tell ourselves to "re-read" everything. i mean, if i insulted you then that's not my problem, right? just because i burst your bandaid bubble doesn't mean that i don't think before i post. anyway, feel free to say that i posted a dumb question. the fact that you answered it..well, what more can i ask? ;) i just needed all your reactions and opinions anyway, so it's good.

happy new year to you and russell ;)

[sabot]

Originally posted by LinuxMandrake
ako din primarily, napatumbling ako sa mga tanong, that's why the reaction...

ayus! :naughty:

[=penny_lane=]

Originally posted by sabot


ooohhhhh :crazytongue:...and i'll say it again: "ixnay on the condescensionAY there, ms. bandaid"

doesn't matter if i meant to insult you or if i only wanted to know if you feel that you are a little sheep waiting to be trained in texas.

ofcourse it doesnt matter to YOU whether your comments mean to insult, because as i've already said, and will say again, ISA KANG TAONG DI NAG-IISIP! you just blurt out the first nonsensical thing that comes to mind. listen to yourself dude...both parts of your sentence reek of condescension. not only are you saying that you dont care kung nakakainsulto ka na, you JUST HAD to add that thing about being "a little sheep waiting to be trained in texas!" i guess this is your pathetic attempt at being cocky, but in the end i do realize the only person you are insulting is yourself, as you are showcasing your poor people skills, low EQ, and dire need for lessons in tactfulness.

well, maybe we both should tell ourselves to "re-read" everything. i mean, if i insulted you then that's not my problem, right? just because i burst your bandaid bubble doesn't mean that i don't think before i post. anyway, feel free to say that i posted a dumb question. the fact that you answered it..well, what more can i ask? ;) i just needed all your reactions and opinions anyway, so it's good.



i do re-read everything i post, and that means i really did mean every word when i said that you posted a dumb question. in fact, i wanna say it again. YOU POSTED A DUMB QUESTION AND YOU CONTINUE TO POST DUMB REPLIES. that being said, let me end this with one of your infamous quotes: "if i insulted you then that's not my problem, right?"

and a happy new year to you, too! :)

[LinuxMandrake]

Originally posted by wishiwashi
Join http://pinoycallcenter.proboards24.com/
err... ano naman po ito?

[sabot]

Originally posted by =penny_lane=
ofcourse it doesnt matter to YOU whether your comments mean to insult, because as i've already said, and will say again, ISA KANG TAONG DI NAG-IISIP! you just blurt out the first nonsensical thing that comes to mind. listen to yourself dude...both parts of your sentence reek of condescension. not only are you saying that you dont care kung nakakainsulto ka na, you JUST HAD to add that thing about being "a little sheep waiting to be trained in texas!" i guess this is your pathetic attempt at being cocky, but in the end i do realize the only person you are insulting is yourself, as you are showcasing your poor people skills, low EQ, and dire need for lessons in tactfulness.

i do re-read everything i post, and that means i really did mean every word when i said that you posted a dumb question. in fact, i wanna say it again. YOU POSTED A DUMB QUESTION AND YOU CONTINUE TO POST DUMB REPLIES. that being said, let me end this with one of your infamous quotes: "if i insulted you then that's not my problem, right?"



"first of all, i am not kissing america's ***, and neither are any of those who work in call centers with foreign clients. it's america that needs our services, and they pay us for it! their money for my hard work, both parties are happy and no one is at the losing end." ..

remember that? do you think the americans really need the services of the Filipino people? you think they'd let us in to take over what they own in the US?


Outsource lang tayong lahat, we don't really work for them. They're just in a way, using us. Cheap labor dude, plus most people would do anything for a 15,000-50,000 pesos paycheck per month right, agent ka man or TL or HR or whatever.

And you know what i hear from other people from the top call centers?..

" d me nagtapos ng pagaaral para lang murahin ng mga americans"

or

"di ko pwede sabihin na Pinoy ako kahit Pinoy din kausap ko. I have to pretend that I'm an American".

Now isn't that sad? That's what I'm trying to point out here.

Of course not everyone would buy that, but the thing is, these people are feeling it.

You think that i'm not thinking about what i'm actually trying to say?

well, go ahead and tell me the reason why i should not be questionable my friend. maybe you could ask Karl Marx

anyway, you wanna work for them in the long run? go ahead and enjoy the american dream :)

but if you're going to use them for the money to build a classroom or a day care center FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE FILIPINO PEOPLE, then i would be very proud of you. :)

peace.

[Una_dagmar]

Looks like you earned quite a reputation because of your thread, ei, sabot?

[fairychild]

Originally posted by Una_dagmar
Looks like you earned quite a reputation because of your thread, ei, sabot?

Good or bad?:newangel: :devil:

[neth_row]

When Americans ask me where I am located, I tell them I'm in Manila.

At sa pagkakaalam ko, the Philippine government deducts tax from my income every month, walang mintis. Hindi naman siguro kailangang magpatayo ng paaralan o ng ospital para ma-consider itong pagtulong sa bansa.

I still don't get where "kissing american @ss" comes from. :shrugs: For me, everything is a matter of perspective. I do understand where some reps are coming from; may ibang accounts talaga na irate yung makakausap mo. But you have to understand that these people are mad not because of you, but because of the circumstances that they are in. Kung ikaw ba naman ang bawasan ng $80 sa credit card mo dahil inuto ka sa isang produkto, di ka ba naman magagalit. My favorite spill on irrate customers, "I'm not the one calling for assistance, am I?" :D

[sabot]

Originally posted by neth_row
When Americans ask me where I am located, I tell them I'm in Manila.

ibang accounts naman di pumapayag ng ganito. well, i guess it really depends on your account. i know of an account that does not allow their agents to speak Filipino to a Filipino customer. And they really have to make the caller believe that they are Americans living in the US. <--now that really is pathetic!


At sa pagkakaalam ko, the Philippine government deducts tax from my income every month, walang mintis. Hindi naman siguro kailangang magpatayo ng paaralan o ng ospital para ma-consider itong pagtulong sa bansa.

yeah pare-pareho lang naman tayo eh. we also help in a way.


I still don't get where "kissing american @ss" comes from. :shrugs: For me, everything is a matter of perspective. I do understand where some reps are coming from; may ibang accounts talaga na irate yung makakausap mo. But you have to understand that these people are mad not because of you, but because of the circumstances that they are in. Kung ikaw ba naman ang bawasan ng $80 sa credit card mo dahil inuto ka sa isang produkto, di ka ba naman magagalit. My favorite spill on irrate customers, "I'm not the one calling for assistance, am I?" :D [/B]

the thing is, my customers talaga na bobo. kahit "the customer is always right", deep inside, we all know that some of them can really be so stupid, especially when they don't listen to our instructions or if they don't read our emails. i mean if you tell them not to send this or that, se-send talaga nila at aaminin pa nila na di sila nagbasa. so kaninong kasalanan ngayon?

buti na lang sa ibang accounts, pwede pang bumanat. like in my account, you can still tell this to the customer: "Please listen to me sir!" (using galit voice)...importante mali talaga ang customer even if God destroys the world.

sa ibang account di talaga pwede yan! OO ka lang ng OO sa mga kano. kahit di pa sya nagbasa ok lang.

if you're not part of that account, then you're lucky diba? I can't speak for all accounts naman eh. that's why i'm asking you guys if you're are experiencing this or if you are in a way kissing american a$$.



and pahabol lang..this is one of the reasons why America needs our services:

"Per agent cost in the USA is approximately $2,500 per month while in the Philippines it amounts to less than $500."

-taken from a certain call center website.

[LinuxMandrake]

Originally posted by neth_row
When Americans ask me where I am located, I tell them I'm in Manila.

At sa pagkakaalam ko, the Philippine government deducts tax from my income every month, walang mintis. Hindi naman siguro kailangang magpatayo ng paaralan o ng ospital para ma-consider itong pagtulong sa bansa.

I still don't get where "kissing american @ss" comes from. :shrugs: For me, everything is a matter of perspective. I do understand where some reps are coming from; may ibang accounts talaga na irate yung makakausap mo. But you have to understand that these people are mad not because of you, but because of the circumstances that they are in. Kung ikaw ba naman ang bawasan ng $80 sa credit card mo dahil inuto ka sa isang produkto, di ka ba naman magagalit. My favorite spill on irrate customers, "I'm not the one calling for assistance, am I?" :D

right on the money... buti na lang directory assistance kami... although wala pa ding ligtas sa irate callers, they are usually irate dahil 5th time na nila tumawag wrong number pa din... hehehe...:smokin:

[sabot]

bump :D

[one_shot]

sabot, I suggest you revise the topic. This thread will only generate more irate reactions than you think... there's more than 4,000 call center agents out there; you don't want all of them to turn against you! I understand what your trying to point out, it's just the tone of the post - it's so... repulsive, to put it mildly. Perhaps you might want to delete this thread and create a new one with your revisions this time.

We are all working in a call center. We are all Filipinos. Let's keep that in mind, let's be proud of what we do. In fact, we're OVERQUALIFIED to do this job! Most American call center agents NEVER graduated from college, BUT WE ALL DID. (now that makes me think anew... why remain in a call center if you studied for four years in college when you can't even put into practice what you have learned there? This is the dilemma of our professors in college today - they're teaching students specialized lessons and also honing their talents to help them become professionals in their selected fields only to find them ending up into something a bit far from being such. That's a mentor's worst nightmare! Perhaps I should post this as a new thread! :) )

Anyway, going back, there's dignity in what we are and in what we do (unless your account/campaign/department, whatever you call it in your company, is a scam, that is).

[hugs]

Originally posted by driven
Anyways, I really don't mind working for one since good work is really hard to find especially with the economic situation. I hope it doesn't get really bad even if FPJ wins (Please don't let him win!). I used to get P6000 a month plus overtime pay plus stress and it isn't worth it. In a call center, I get paid double plus other benefits that I didnt get from my previous employment and the stress is still there. I also kick American *** since I provide the answers to their problems since they have lazy/ dumb asses

"lazy/dumb asses" :D got that right!

CALLER: yeah, i'm looking for Tony..
CSR: in what city and state please?
CALLER: i don't know..
CSR: what's the last name please?
CSR: i dunno..:crazy:

nangtitrip lang, o sadyang t@nga lang talaga ang taong ire..:mad: waaaah!!

CSR: what city and state please?
CALLER: um, what color is ebony?
CSR:it's black..
CALLER: i see, what about oak?
CSR: something like brown..
CALLER: wow! thanks for your help!

problem solved..hehe..i wasn't sure if oak really is close to brown..;)

a lot of ***-kissing going on around here..it should be a give and take relationship so we Filipinos could be provided with jobs, and foreigners provided with "cheap",yet quality service, allowing them to cut back on labor costs..e di everybody is happy!hehe :kiss:

[the_End_sHIFT]

ANO BUZZ! puro kayo AWAY MGA LETSE KYO!!!!!!!!!


change topic nga tayo mga dude!

BILI NLNG KAYO TOCINO, CHORIZO, TAPA, HOTDOG skin...
murang mura po!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ako taga call center din...pro tindero din at the same time.
wais yata ako.....hehehe...may sideline..kesa mag PEX ng mag PEX pag walang calls...ala e..mag benta kyo!

yung mga oorder dyan....PM nlng po...

[Masquerade]

Originally posted by sabot
does it make you feel good that you, as an employee of a call center, are actually kissing america's a$$?

i mean, yeah, you're getting the money, helping yourself or your family..

but, do you think that you're helping the nation by what you are doing?

i mean, even if the president declares a certain day to be a non-working holiday, may pasok pa din kayo..

or kahit ano pa dyan, may pasok pa din kasi bossing mo kano hindi pinoy..

pano yan?


Working for a call center is the same as working for other multinational companies based in the Philippines. It is the same as working for Coca-cola, McDonald's, etc etc.

If I work for Mitsubishi, am I kissing Japanese a$$? Korean a$$ for Samsung? Chinese a$$ for all the Chinese-owned establishments in the country? I don't mind working on a holiday either. I don't have anything to do at home anyway so I might as well stay productive. Like what they said, we pay taxes so we help the government generate income.

I've been working for 10 years now and I've had a lot of experience working for different companies. Believe me, when you reach this point, the nationality of your boss won't matter as long as you earn what you really deserve.

My boss is an American and I like him a lot better compared to the Pinoy bosses I've had in the past. American bosses do not take things personally. I can say what I want, even shout at him if I want to and I am free to push him back whenever he is being unreasonable. Try to do that to most Pinoy bosses and you'll expect the end of your career.

Tip: Don't be too sensitive and never take what the callers tell you personally. Remember that they are mad at the situation they're in. You just happened to be the one hearing their complaints.

[LinuxMandrake]

hugs, are you working for liemponyeknyeknyo? i saw ur name sa isang thread, and most likely ur a supervisor there, kasi nakakapex ka, just like bentobox... tsaka the spiels sound very much like DA. hehehe... cheers!!!

end_shift, medyo maganda ang products mo, kaya lang the way you sell, i don't think may bibili pagtapos mong murahin... wahehehe... love peace and menudo grease!

[Nicholas Beedle]

I find this thread extremely interesting. The comments expressed by anti-call-center people and those working in call centers say a lot about the modern Filipino worker. This thread shows how a developing nation like the Philippines is being affected by global business trends. At the same time, it reveals how much (or for others, how little) perspective we have with regards to these forces.

I'm sure everyone is aware of the phenomenon called outsourcing, where business functions are chopped-up and shipped to providers who can provide better "value" for their services. Outsourcing is an extremely promising trend. It is the "big thing" right now. The value of the outsourcing industry is placed in the trillions of dollars for the next decade.

Of course, it must be understood that answering calls is but one of many functions that are being outsourced. US banks are outsourcing accounting and invoicing activities, while firms such as IBM are outsourcing a whole host IT-related functions. Needless to say, different functions fetch different price levels. High-level functions that require speciality are compensated accordingly.

The fact that most local outsourcing deals involve call centers reflects the perceived value (at least for the time being) of the Filipino worker in the global value chain. I do not mean to put down the Filipino when I say this, but there is a reason why a lot of the IT-related deals are made in India and China. The plain truth is that the perceived (and to a point, the actual) strengths of the average Filipino worker lies in his ability to communicate using the English language. This is what we currently bring to the table. People should not be ashamed of this. Being good at English is nothing to be ashamed of.

As far as wanting more is concerned, well, that is a matter of debate. Can the Filipino compete with Indians and Chinese in IT and engineering? Can we offer a better value vis-a-vis these functions? Are we more than just an outsource destination? These are the questions that we have to ask ourselves. We must all realize that the global labor market is an efficient beast. Now, more than ever, jobs are being shipped to places (and people) who can perform most efficiently. The fact that we are not the first choice for IT outsourcing says a lot about how the global players view our IT capabilities.

As far as kissing American *** is concerned, well, I cannot help but be amused at some of the comments here. I guess a lot of people still don't realize it, but the reason we constantly suck up to Americans is not because we like it, but because we have to. I realize this will not sit well with a lot of people, but I feel it is a sad truth most of us do not want to accept. Up to this point in our history, we have proven time and again that we are incapable of managing our own house. We have a well-deserved reputation of making simple things difficult, and the world over, we are know for our inability to get things done. At least that's how Filipinos in the Philippines are perceived.

But this is certainly not the case abroad. Filipinos have proven to be wonderful artists, savvy investment bankers, brilliant strategy consultants, insightful PhDs, smart engineers, and the like. But why are all these successful Filipinos based abroad. Why do they chose to make their mark outside of their homeland? Did they turn their back on their motherland the first chance they had? Is money the sole driver of their decisions? Saving yes to all these would be an insult to the intelligence of the Filipino.

Before we continue to whine about our woeful state and before we continue to point the finger at America or other scapegoats, perhaps it is best to first look at what we both as individuals and as a collective nation, have done FOR OURSELVES. Do we strive to constantly better ourselves? Do we aspire for better things AND DO WHAT IT TAKES to achieve them? Or do we just sit in a corner and sulk, remembering past glories and lamenting on what could have been? Are we really willing to do what it takes to improve our lot? Or are we really just lazybones who do not care about the future? What do we do in the face of challenges? Do we meet them head on? Or do we just COPE with what's dealt us and PRAY that things get better? The fact is, no amount of coping and praying can elevate us from our woes. THe only way out is by relying on ourselves to get things done. If we want something, we cannot sit and hope that it be given to us. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT.

Perhaps when we have done so, we would not have to worry about the many insecurities that we have at present.

[Nicholas Beedle]

I find this thread extremely interesting. The comments expressed by anti-call-center people and those working in call centers say a lot about the modern Filipino worker. This thread shows how a developing nation like the Philippines is being affected by global business trends. At the same time, it reveals how much (or for others, how little) perspective we have with regards to these forces.

I'm sure everyone is aware of the phenomenon called outsourcing, where business functions are chopped-up and shipped to providers who can provide better "value" for their services. Outsourcing is an extremely promising trend. It is the "big thing" right now. The value of the outsourcing industry is placed in the trillions of dollars for the next decade.

Of course, it must be understood that answering calls is but one of many functions that are being outsourced. US banks are outsourcing accounting and invoicing activities, while firms such as IBM are outsourcing a whole host IT-related functions. Needless to say, different functions fetch different price levels. High-level functions that require speciality are compensated accordingly.

The fact that most local outsourcing deals involve call centers reflects the perceived value (at least for the time being) of the Filipino worker in the global value chain. I do not mean to put down the Filipino when I say this, but there is a reason why a lot of the IT-related deals are made in India and China. The plain truth is that the perceived (and to a point, the actual) strengths of the average Filipino worker lies in his ability to communicate using the English language. This is what we currently bring to the table. People should not be ashamed of this. Being good at English is nothing to be ashamed of.

As far as wanting more is concerned, well, that is a matter of debate. Can the Filipino compete with Indians and Chinese in IT and engineering? Can we offer a better value vis-a-vis these functions? Are we more than just an outsource destination? These are the questions that we have to ask ourselves. We must all realize that the global labor market is an efficient beast. Now, more than ever, jobs are being shipped to places (and people) who can perform most efficiently. The fact that we are not the first choice for IT outsourcing says a lot about how the global players view our IT capabilities.

As far as kissing American *** is concerned, well, I cannot help but be amused at some of the comments here. I guess a lot of people still don't realize it, but the reason we constantly suck up to Americans is not because we like it, but because we have to. I realize this will not sit well with a lot of people, but I feel it is a sad truth most of us do not want to accept. Up to this point in our history, we have proven time and again that we are incapable of managing our own house. We have a well-deserved reputation of making simple things difficult, and the world over, we are know for our inability to get things done. At least that's how Filipinos in the Philippines are perceived.

But this is certainly not the case abroad. Filipinos have proven to be wonderful artists, savvy investment bankers, brilliant strategy consultants, insightful PhDs, smart engineers, and the like. But why are all these successful Filipinos based abroad. Why do they chose to make their mark outside of their homeland? Did they turn their back on their motherland the first chance they had? Is money the sole driver of their decisions? Saving yes to all these would be an insult to the intelligence of the Filipino.

Before we continue to whine about our woeful state and before we continue to point the finger at America or other scapegoats, perhaps it is best to first look at what we both as individuals and as a collective nation, have done FOR OURSELVES. Do we strive to constantly better ourselves? Do we aspire for better things AND DO WHAT IT TAKES to achieve them? Or do we just sit in a corner and sulk, remembering past glories and lamenting on what could have been? Are we really willing to do what it takes to improve our lot? Or are we really just lazybones who do not care about the future? What do we do in the face of challenges? Do we meet them head on? Or do we just COPE with what's dealt us and PRAY that things get better? The fact is, no amount of coping and praying can elevate us from our woes. THe only way out is by relying on ourselves to get things done. If we want something, we cannot sit and hope that it be given to us. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT.

Perhaps when we have done so, we would not have to worry about the many insecurities that we have at present.

[Una_dagmar]

Originally posted by Nicholas Beedle
Before we continue to whine about our woeful state and before we continue to point the finger at America or other scapegoats, perhaps it is best to first look at what we both as individuals and as a collective nation, have done FOR OURSELVES. Do we strive to constantly better ourselves? Do we aspire for better things AND DO WHAT IT TAKES to achieve them? Or do we just sit in a corner and sulk, remembering past glories and lamenting on what could have been? Are we really willing to do what it takes to improve our lot? Or are we really just lazybones who do not care about the future? What do we do in the face of challenges? Do we meet them head on? Or do we just COPE with what's dealt us and PRAY that things get better? The fact is, no amount of coping and praying can elevate us from our woes. THe only way out is by relying on ourselves to get things done. If we want something, we cannot sit and hope that it be given to us. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT.

Perhaps when we have done so, we would not have to worry about the many insecurities that we have at present.

I can't help but give a thumbs up for this post, Mr. Beedle (hehehe!). I believe that at this point, to be patrotic (which I feel this thread is leading to), we have to work hard to contribute not only to the nation's economic growth, but also to strive for our personal growth as well. It may initially sound selfish, but if you think about it, the good of one will amount to the good of all (if not, the majority). Damn, we have kids to feed, right!

[LinuxMandrake]

amen to that beedle!!!

[tubigan]

shut the **** up. You have a ****ing job. You get paid. If you don't like the job, then get lost.

As for what was asked, shrug. I dont care. Give me one REASON why i should be patriotic to a government who sees everyone else as a means to get rich?

I work so i can get paid and enjoy a little bit of comfort. Wala nang iba. Simple as that. Why bother with all these complicated issues? Does that help you in any given way? IF not, best forget about it.

People need jobs for one reason: CASH.

Everything else is simply a result of that need.

I know a lot of people who would be happy to work at a call center simply because it means they're finally getting paid for all the **** they had to endure in school.

Hell... i graduated in economics but I sure dont appear to be working at a job where i am paid for what I studied in.

Work is work. We get paid for it. Why should i be beholden to anyone? much less the Philippine Gov't? Did they do anything to warrant such faith?

Dont think so.

[sabot]

Originally posted by Nicholas Beedle
I find this thread extremely interesting. The comments expressed by anti-call-center people and those working in call centers say a lot about the modern Filipino worker. This thread shows how a developing nation like the Philippines is being affected by global business trends. At the same time, it reveals how much (or for others, how little) perspective we have with regards to these forces.

I'm sure everyone is aware of the phenomenon called outsourcing, where business functions are chopped-up and shipped to providers who can provide better "value" for their services. Outsourcing is an extremely promising trend. It is the "big thing" right now. The value of the outsourcing industry is placed in the trillions of dollars for the next decade.

Of course, it must be understood that answering calls is but one of many functions that are being outsourced. US banks are outsourcing accounting and invoicing activities, while firms such as IBM are outsourcing a whole host IT-related functions. Needless to say, different functions fetch different price levels. High-level functions that require speciality are compensated accordingly.

The fact that most local outsourcing deals involve call centers reflects the perceived value (at least for the time being) of the Filipino worker in the global value chain. I do not mean to put down the Filipino when I say this, but there is a reason why a lot of the IT-related deals are made in India and China. The plain truth is that the perceived (and to a point, the actual) strengths of the average Filipino worker lies in his ability to communicate using the English language. This is what we currently bring to the table. People should not be ashamed of this. Being good at English is nothing to be ashamed of.

As far as wanting more is concerned, well, that is a matter of debate. Can the Filipino compete with Indians and Chinese in IT and engineering? Can we offer a better value vis-a-vis these functions? Are we more than just an outsource destination? These are the questions that we have to ask ourselves. We must all realize that the global labor market is an efficient beast. Now, more than ever, jobs are being shipped to places (and people) who can perform most efficiently. The fact that we are not the first choice for IT outsourcing says a lot about how the global players view our IT capabilities.

As far as kissing American *** is concerned, well, I cannot help but be amused at some of the comments here. I guess a lot of people still don't realize it, but the reason we constantly suck up to Americans is not because we like it, but because we have to. I realize this will not sit well with a lot of people, but I feel it is a sad truth most of us do not want to accept. Up to this point in our history, we have proven time and again that we are incapable of managing our own house. We have a well-deserved reputation of making simple things difficult, and the world over, we are know for our inability to get things done. At least that's how Filipinos in the Philippines are perceived.

But this is certainly not the case abroad. Filipinos have proven to be wonderful artists, savvy investment bankers, brilliant strategy consultants, insightful PhDs, smart engineers, and the like. But why are all these successful Filipinos based abroad. Why do they chose to make their mark outside of their homeland? Did they turn their back on their motherland the first chance they had? Is money the sole driver of their decisions? Saving yes to all these would be an insult to the intelligence of the Filipino.

Before we continue to whine about our woeful state and before we continue to point the finger at America or other scapegoats, perhaps it is best to first look at what we both as individuals and as a collective nation, have done FOR OURSELVES. Do we strive to constantly better ourselves? Do we aspire for better things AND DO WHAT IT TAKES to achieve them? Or do we just sit in a corner and sulk, remembering past glories and lamenting on what could have been? Are we really willing to do what it takes to improve our lot? Or are we really just lazybones who do not care about the future? What do we do in the face of challenges? Do we meet them head on? Or do we just COPE with what's dealt us and PRAY that things get better? The fact is, no amount of coping and praying can elevate us from our woes. THe only way out is by relying on ourselves to get things done. If we want something, we cannot sit and hope that it be given to us. WE HAVE TO TAKE IT.

Perhaps when we have done so, we would not have to worry about the many insecurities that we have at present.

thanks! :) hehe. glad that this thread is still alive. no plans of closing it. the more opinions, the better

tubigan..relax. you don't have to cuss.

[Una_dagmar]

Originally posted by tubigan
shut the **** up. You have a ****ing job. You get paid. If you don't like the job, then get lost.

As for what was asked, shrug. I dont care. Give me one REASON why i should be patriotic to a government who sees everyone else as a means to get rich?

I work so i can get paid and enjoy a little bit of comfort. Wala nang iba. Simple as that. Why bother with all these complicated issues? Does that help you in any given way? IF not, best forget about it.

People need jobs for one reason: CASH.

Everything else is simply a result of that need.

I know a lot of people who would be happy to work at a call center simply because it means they're finally getting paid for all the **** they had to endure in school.

Hell... i graduated in economics but I sure dont appear to be working at a job where i am paid for what I studied in.

Work is work. We get paid for it. Why should i be beholden to anyone? much less the Philippine Gov't? Did they do anything to warrant such faith?

Dont think so.


I understand that we all need money to survive. And yes, we also work for selfish reasons (tao lang, po). However, if you think about it, how will you have a job if we didn't have a thing called "economy" which exists not only within government branches, but as well as in everyday relationships as well? We never asked to have a government/governments that made us have to be in this situation, right? All we're saying is that we feel that call centers have been a blessing for both the Philippine government (and/or economy), and our pockets as well.

I feel that there is much disappointment, if not, frustration, in your tone. I do hope that you understand that you are not the only one in this dilemma-having a job that does not suit your course. Like you said, we should keep our mouths shut an be thankful that we have jobs. :D

[LinuxMandrake]

mahirap humanap ng trabaho ngayon... kelangan may experience ka bago ka tanggapin, and lugi *** mga taong kakasimula pa lang, bihira na ang company na tumatanggap ng walang experience of some sort. kung tanggapin ka man, eh siguradong maliit ang sweldo.

isipin mo na lang na tumutulong ka sa pamilya mo to ease up the frustration of having a job not related to your course...

love peace and menudo grease...

[J-X91]

i do feel that sometimes, i'm like kissing america's a$$ but actually my other side says i'm making money out of america's a$$.

yun lang yun. i like being in a callcenter...dun mo malalamna that american's are just as dumb as soke dumb filipinos and you'll feel proud of what and who you are.

[Ratman]

I'm Filipino, working in a CC, but I'd rather work for the Yank.

The best comment I got from a Filipino manager was "Oy! UP grad itong kausap mo! Di tayo talo!"

One thing one of the Yank managers said to me was "Man, I like you, because you don't take bull from anybody." And that was the least he said.

Bottom line: No Yank can work right without what I do for them. They look to ME to solve problems they know they alone cannot solve, and they're usually polite enough to thank ME in the end. Even better, they tell their friends to get their troubleshooting done through ME.

And the Yanks gave me a raise for doing the job right and doing it often.

Try working your backside off for a Filipino manager, and you'd get crabbed down not only by your manager, but by your own countrymen too.

I'd rather kiss American a$$ cheeks voluntarily than be called to lick Filipino rectum.

[goonie]

It's simple for me really... I want a chance to grow as an individual. Working for a contact center offers chances that are rather uncommon within the Filipino working environment. I agree with Beedle too... it's about self-actualization more than anything else.

Best practices and developing an excellent work ethic isn't something you can pick up along the side of the street. It's something you learn. What better way to learn than to work alongside with people who know how to foster this kind of discipline. Ever since I joined my present company, I've been amazed with the range of things that I've learned. Management, salesmanship, excellent communication practices in professional environments... a whole lot of things that I couldn't have learned in my old working environment.

Learning and education is all well and good... but eventually, it has to find its way home too. Hopefully, we should be able to share these best practices along the line too.

Oh well... just my two cents on the matter.


Lamina et Sagitta,
goonie :goon:

[Ladydredd]

you hit it right on the spot, beedle!!!!

[sway_legs]

common people hindi sapat ang sipag para umangat sa call center. kelangan matalino ka din at talagang magaling mag-ingles. sa call center, daig ng matalinong absinero at early worms ang mga masisipag. kasi sobrang sipag nga, sup call naman, aht haba, walang commendation. mas nadadaig pa ng mga matatalinong kahit late na dumating eh mas productive pa din. ganun lang yun. kung hindi ka ganun kagaleng mag-ingles wag ka magcall center dahil aalis ka din. Tapos anu, lilipat ka na naman ng iba tapos ganun na naman. Hay...