bad companies to work for?

[phalluscolossus]

Paki lista na niyo dito please para warning sa mga ibang aplikante

[beefeater]

Pwede bang iusama dito ang kumpanya na gumagamit ng pirated software para sa ops nila?

[CORN_U]

yung company na magaling daw ang graduates dahil sa aborad nakakakuha ng trabaho, ayun sa commercial nila. ;)

[wandawoman]

mas maganda sana if you could name names para mas ok at magsilbing warning sa iba...

[KuyaDanny]

Be fair.

Kung gusto ninyong manlait ng kumpanya, sabihin rin ninyo kung ano ang basehan ng mga alegasyon ninyo.

Nagtrabaho ba kayo doon?
Nagtrabaho ba doon ang asawa ninyo?
Nagtrabaho ba doon ang pamangkin ng bayaw ng driver ng kapitbahay ninyo?
Narinig ba ninyo sa radyo?
Nabasa ba ninyo sa Inquirer?

Buuin ang kwento, at nang makapagpasiya nang wasto ang mga mamamayan. OK?

[mrpathetic]

based on my experience, meron...and it is extremely ironic... =)

[chuva10]

would u mind sharing it?

[floreno]

Basta ako...Dont be decieved by their nice, good-ambiance office set-up.....IT may be fooling you...

;)

[mrpathetic]

tama ka floreno... =)

[pinkrose]

Accenture daw sabi ng friends ko.

[JENSIE_G]

HEARSAY: Any company among the SM Group. Barat "daw" talaga sila magpasahod.

:shrug:

[nipps]

yep....anything na may kinalaman sa sm... :ayaw:
banco de oro mga 6t lang nakukuha ng friend ko tapos yun tubig na nasa dispenser KKB pa, hindi man lang shoulder ng branch..tsk tsk

sm naman mismo wala pang 10t yun inaalok na suweldo sa friend ko, mon - sat work tapos meron pang uniform na parang delivery boy ng kfc...ewan ko ba ok naman yun position pero ilalagay ka sa bicutan? hmm...

pero sabi sabi lang toh ng mga friends ko..... again...:eekdvl:

[JENSIE_G]

nipps: i've had a 1st hand experience of how COLD employers and executives of SM are. nope, i didn't work for them. but i merely got to work WITH them. ibang klase sila. i hate to brand people, pero what i'm saying is true.

i'd rather work for the gokongwei's rather than these people.

[Jareth]

beware of slick and promising job ads

they usually hide the "baho" of the company

be sure to look for alternative sources of info (by doing a web search) or gleaning inside info.

[Jeffreyw]

Originally posted by floreno
Basta ako...Dont be decieved by their nice, good-ambiance office set-up.....IT may be fooling you...

;)

I'm currently working for a company that has a good ambiance office setup, but i'm receiving a decent pay. Free mineral water, free Milo, coffee, tea, sugar, tissue. The supply is practically never-ending. We're paid on our overtime.



----

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[CORN_U]

The INA Typewriter "University" (kuno)

Sangmilyong tambak na kaso nito sa NLRC. Mainstay sila dun kasama nung company na na-mention in the earlier posts.

But on the bright side, if you want to be a really really good labor lawyer, apply there. You'll be swamped with work.

[twistedwhisper]

how about call centers? is there call centers that are bad to work for? :*)

[kerb]

remember that there is no such thing as dream company coz once u get in, all dreams fades away :P.

[missywitchy]

ATT Aqua Group of Companies

Bakit kamo?

1. Overworked underpaid
2. Underpaid ka na nga delayed pa sweldo
3. Non posting of SSS, Philhealth, Pag-Ibig Contributions
4. Unprofessional Co-Workers

[deepSubmerge]

Originally posted by twistedwhisper
how about call centers? is there call centers that are bad to work for? :*)

depende sa call center. may maganda meron din hindi.

[floreno]

Originally posted by JENSIE_G
HEARSAY: Any company among the SM Group. Barat "daw" talaga sila magpasahod.

:shrug:

Ows... Eh di mababa din ang pasahod sa SM Equicomm

[smarty]

Originally posted by CORN_U
yung company na magaling daw ang graduates dahil sa aborad nakakakuha ng trabaho, ayun sa commercial nila. ;)

i think i know what company you're talking about...

"abono muna, anak"...

chk out the dole forum to know more about the company....

[pattybee]

The Rustan's Group. Super baba daw ang pay and you have to sign a contract for 2 years. If you resign before the end of your contract, you have to pay them for the training you received.

[yojimbo]

ayon kay dolly ann carvajal, kawawa ang mga writers ng abscbn.

[Jeffreyw]

Anything connected about Gaisano companies. Low pay, hard work, literally stinking workplace.

[sweet_7326]

Originally posted by nipps
yep....anything na may kinalaman sa sm... :ayaw:
banco de oro mga 6t lang nakukuha ng friend ko tapos yun tubig na nasa dispenser KKB pa, hindi man lang shoulder ng branch..tsk tsk

pero sabi sabi lang toh ng mga friends ko..... again...:eekdvl:


*sigh*:(

i'm working for banco de oro and i must say i'm quite satisfied with what i am getting.

that's 6k per month, pero 16 months pay naman so that's around 96k per annum. plus benefits pa. quite low nga, pero if you are starting naman ok na din yan kesa wala kang work diba? imo of course.

[just_whistle]

Originally posted by sweet_7326
*sigh*:(

i'm working for banco de oro and i must say i'm quite satisfied with what i am getting.

that's 6k per month, pero 16 months pay naman so that's around 96k per annum. plus benefits pa. quite low nga, pero if you are starting naman ok na din yan kesa wala kang work diba? imo of course.

6k a month?!? Is that even legal?!? well, siguro if ikaw yung tipong lalakirin mo lang yung place of work mo and nakatira ka pa sa parents mo, ok lang.

[Bea19]

6k hindi ba yan minimum wage....mababa na ngayon dba ang P8100...well kung net naman yang pay mo ok na kse minsan ma fofool ka ng ibang sweldo gross lang naman pala.

[Jeffreyw]

Even a 6k salary is not even enough here in Cebu, even for a non married guy like me. I'm renting a place, it's cheap though 700/month, also i'm a type of guy who prefers cheap items to buy, not extravagant in my spending. But still 6k is not enough, not to mention that it's still a gross figure, not net.

--

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[pattybee]

Originally posted by sweet_7326
*sigh*:(

i'm working for banco de oro and i must say i'm quite satisfied with what i am getting.

that's 6k per month, pero 16 months pay naman so that's around 96k per annum. plus benefits pa. quite low nga, pero if you are starting naman ok na din yan kesa wala kang work diba? imo of course.

6K??? Is that gross or nett? I hope for your sake it's nett. But it's still below minimum wage right? If you say you get total 16 months a yr, how does BDO spread out the 4 months? Do they give it in bulk or throughout 12 months at diff. times?

[alvion2004]

Avoid Alvion Technologies (or Alvion Asia). Although magagaling yung mga employees nila at masarap kasama at super flexible yung schedule, yung HR Director nila is a power tripper na walang alam sa HR administration or local labor laws.

His name is Mark Phillip Galutera. Dati daw siyang HR executive sa Nestle. Pero think about it, kung executive ka na sa Nestle, bakit ka lilipat sa isang start up na puro clone ang computers? Unless tinanggal siya.

[chika_lang]

BEWARE of MILLENNIUM CONSORTIUM CORP, ULTRASYSTEM (MEGAMALL).

Isa lang may ari nyan.Sama ugali ng may-ari. Kala mo warzone kasi araw-araw laging nagmumura. Sama trato s employee.Dami nya labor violations. Wala ka security of tenure bigla k na lang palalayasin jan.Puro p original ang requirements na hinihingi tpos pag aalis ka n tagal nya ibigay pati last salary mo. Dami nya maliliit na company tpos pag nag expire contract mo ibahin lang nya pangalan company pero same work pa rin gawa mo para di ka maregular at ala rin benefits.

[inquisitor]

Originally posted by alvion2004
Avoid Alvion Technologies (or Alvion Asia). Although magagaling yung mga employees nila at masarap kasama at super flexible yung schedule, yung HR Director nila is a power tripper na walang alam sa HR administration or local labor laws.

His name is Mark Phillip Galutera. Dati daw siyang HR executive sa Nestle. Pero think about it, kung executive ka na sa Nestle, bakit ka lilipat sa isang start up na puro clone ang computers? Unless tinanggal siya.

I know this person who posted this. He was recently terminated by Sir Mark and he is very disgruntled. He was caught stealing a cellphone from an employee in the company and justly as HR Director, Sir Mark terminated him after putting him through the disciplinary process. I know this first-hand because I was the victim and lost my brand-new phone to him. Buti na lang may mga witnesses na nakakita sa kanya. Dude, grabe ka naman, biniktima mo na nga ako sa pagnanakaw ng cellphone tapos nagmamalinis ka pa at sinisiraan mo pa si Sir Mark ngunit ginagawa lang niya yung trabaho niya. Di ko na babanggitin pangalan mo dahil alam ko nakakahiya ang ginawa mo at hindi ako katulad mo na maglalagay ng pangalan dito. Di ka ba nakokonsensya tuwing natutulog ka sa ginawa mo?

[OliverWood21]

Looks like we are getting personal here now, ey.. ;)

Cool down.. :D

[alvion2004]

Originally posted by inquisitor
I know this person who posted this. He was recently terminated by Sir Mark and he is very disgruntled. He was caught stealing a cellphone from an employee in the company and justly as HR Director, Sir Mark terminated him after putting him through the disciplinary process. I know this first-hand because I was the victim and lost my brand-new phone to him. Buti na lang may mga witnesses na nakakita sa kanya. Dude, grabe ka naman, biniktima mo na nga ako sa pagnanakaw ng cellphone tapos nagmamalinis ka pa at sinisiraan mo pa si Sir Mark ngunit ginagawa lang niya yung trabaho niya. Di ko na babanggitin pangalan mo dahil alam ko nakakahiya ang ginawa mo at hindi ako katulad mo na maglalagay ng pangalan dito. Di ka ba nakokonsensya tuwing natutulog ka sa ginawa mo?

Inquisitor, you got it wrong. I'm still with Alvion Asia and I have no plan to leave the company. And I don't need to steal your cell phone kase di hamak na mas malaki sweldo ko sa yo. Me 40k a month ba sweldo mo? I'm sure, isa ka dun sa mga pals ni Mark na pinagimbentuhan nya ng position para lang magkatrabaho, juts like Vince, who was fired by the VP only after a month kase nga inimbento lang yung position nya. Sabihin mo sa boss mo kumuha sya ng training sa HR and compensation management. Hindi porket me degree sya sa Mass Comm major in Film Making e magiging magaling na HR manager na sya. BTW, alam mo ba na more than a year na ko sa company wala pa rin akong employment contract at yung buong department namin wala pa rin yung job descriptions na pinangako nya nung August 2003. Buti na lang dumiretso sa US office yung manager namin kaya nakagawa siya ng job descriptions na napa-approve nya within two weeks. Kelangan bang abutin ng 8 months ang paggawa ng job descriptions? Yikes! By the way, andito ko sa office until evening, I'm sure sa Tech Support ka. Kita kits tayo mamaya :)

[fatkee]

para lang maiba ang usapan, saan na ba ang office ng alvion asia? nasa subic pa rin ba o nasa makati?

[woulfe27]

taga alvion ako, pero nagfile na ko resignation. bad trip na rin ako e. makati na ang alvion asia. fatkee, taga AA ka ba? pm mo ko :)

[kukurikaboo]

I hear ang pangit daw mag work sa IT department ng San Miguel. Is that true?

[alvion2004]

Originally posted by inquisitor
I know this person who posted this. He was recently terminated by Sir Mark and he is very disgruntled. He was caught stealing a cellphone from an employee in the company and justly as HR Director, Sir Mark terminated him after putting him through the disciplinary process. I know this first-hand because I was the victim and lost my brand-new phone to him. Buti na lang may mga witnesses na nakakita sa kanya. Dude, grabe ka naman, biniktima mo na nga ako sa pagnanakaw ng cellphone tapos nagmamalinis ka pa at sinisiraan mo pa si Sir Mark ngunit ginagawa lang niya yung trabaho niya. Di ko na babanggitin pangalan mo dahil alam ko nakakahiya ang ginawa mo at hindi ako katulad mo na maglalagay ng pangalan dito. Di ka ba nakokonsensya tuwing natutulog ka sa ginawa mo?

To Inquisitor: Is that you, Donna? Or is it Ergo? Ang dali nyong hulaan kase konting konti lang kayo na natutuwa sa management style, or mismanagement style, rather, ni "Sir" Mark. Yung mga nakinabang lang sa inimbentong positions hehe

[Jareth]

alvion2004

man- you suck!

using a public forum to air your gripes- and making personal attacks on a person (going to the extent of namin him), behind the relative anonymity of an alternick here in PEx

sa lugar namin may tawag diyan- pero di ko na babanggitin dito.

If you have an issue with management- talk it out with them- or leave the company (o baka naman nanghihinayang ka na di maibigay ng ibang kumpanya ang 40K na kinikita mo diyan?).

[sweet_7326]

Originally posted by pattybee
6K??? Is that gross or nett? I hope for your sake it's nett. But it's still below minimum wage right? If you say you get total 16 months a yr, how does BDO spread out the 4 months? Do they give it in bulk or throughout 12 months at diff. times?

yung 6k, i'm not sure if that's gross or net. kasi that's not what i'm getting naman. i was just pointing out na kahit na mababa ang basic, the company compensates naman kahit papano.

we get 1.5months during midyear, 2.5 months during christmas.

[joe_higashi]

yung maraming BACKSTABBERS!

nwei kahit isa lang pangit na kagad,

[ivorykeys0811]

dnt work for the co. who developed eastwood-megawrld, esp. in their communications dpt.

low pay, no overtime pay, worst boss. enuf said. enyone who wnts more detials, pm me.

[alvion2004]

Originally posted by Jareth
alvion2004

man- you suck!

using a public forum to air your gripes- and making personal attacks on a person (going to the extent of namin him), behind the relative anonymity of an alternick here in PEx

sa lugar namin may tawag diyan- pero di ko na babanggitin dito.

If you have an issue with management- talk it out with them- or leave the company (o baka naman nanghihinayang ka na di maibigay ng ibang kumpanya ang 40K na kinikita mo diyan?).

Thanks, Jareth. Nagdilang anghel ka kahit tingin ko hindi ka n anghel. I'm filing my resignation sa Alvion Asia next week. Just received a job offer from another multinational IT company. Guess how much? P72k plus tax shield and car plan!!! Imagine, makakaalis na ko sa pamamlakad ng bulok na HR manager ng Alvion Asia, halos double pa sweldo ko! Pag sinuswerte nga naman (guffaws).

Why don't you join Alvion Asia? I'm sure you and the HR manager will become the best of friends there. And are you interested in a 1999 Mitsu Lancer GSR? Gotta to take advantage of that car plan.

Chill out dude!

:p :p :p :eek: :eek: :D

[Jareth]

ooooooooooows? :p

well- congrats alvion2004 :D

at least mas ok na buhay mo ngayon

pero under da belt pa rin kse hirit mo sa bossing mo eh :D

oist- ano company mong bago? sama ako :lol:

[woulfe27]

Jareth, have you heard of verifone? US IT company din na me office dito sa Pinas. They're looking for
programmers and QA staff.


Tol, kung nakilala mo yung HR manager namin, hindi mo masisisi yung Alvion employees kung bumanat sila ng below the belt. Saka hindi namin sya bossing, kase ang HR dept. naman talaga e support group lang. wala namang alam yan sa software development e. feeling bossing lang sya kaya lahat gusto pakialaman. Kung makikita mo lang yung palitan ng email sa Outlook namin regarding his incompetence, you'll say na very tame yung post ko dito. Yung iba nga iniihian yung frender ng kotse nya

[woulfe27]

nga pala, i met alvion 2004 sa verifone, magkasunod interview namin. sana nga makuha yung iba pa naming mga kasama sa opis. then napagusapan yung mga sama ng loob sa opis saka tong post na to. he/she told me na the upper management in the US is liasing with him/her para nga maayos na tong problema sa alvion, but they don't know his/her identity. most likely sabay kami lilipat. bad trip na rin daw kase sya.

hey alvion 04, pasok ka ba this week? or long vacation ka din? dont worry, anonymous ka pa rin :)

[Jareth]

wehehehehe- inihian fender nang kotse?

grabeh :D

gaano ba ka incompetent? bakit ata madaming asar sa kanya?

any specific examples?

Originally posted by woulfe27
Jareth, have you heard of verifone? US IT company din na me office dito sa Pinas. They're looking for
programmers and QA staff.


Tol, kung nakilala mo yung HR manager namin, hindi mo masisisi yung Alvion employees kung bumanat sila ng below the belt. Saka hindi namin sya bossing, kase ang HR dept. naman talaga e support group lang. wala namang alam yan sa software development e. feeling bossing lang sya kaya lahat gusto pakialaman. Kung makikita mo lang yung palitan ng email sa Outlook namin regarding his incompetence, you'll say na very tame yung post ko dito. Yung iba nga iniihian yung frender ng kotse nya

[woulfe27]

jareth,
9 months na ko sa company at paalis na ko pero up to now wala pa rin akong employment contract. natatawa na lang ako. since december about 30% nung employees umalis na dahil sa kanya. saka pag nagcriticize ka sa peformance nya, na maadlas manyari kase nga incompetent sya, pepersunalin nya. kahit irecommend ng manager nung employee yung tao for promotion at kahit maganda rating sa performance evaluation, gagawa sya ng paraan para hindi maapprove. i should know kase yung isa kong tao nirecommend ko for promotion, dumiretso ako sa US office at approved naman nung VP. pero hinarang pa rin. di pa daw approve ng HR. ayun bad trip pati yung VP kaya hindi na sa kanya pinapadaan yung mga ganung decisions ngayon. mukhang maaayos na kase me bago kaming country manager at mukhang OK sya. galing sya sa CIS. baka kilala nyo :)

alvion04, sa ka na? :)

[alvion2004]

woulfe, vacation na ko, then pagbalik ko i'll file my resignation na. kontakin kita when i get back to manila.

[Pasensyoso]

most of them are not that bad. business guys dont build crap company. management is the problem. the team is the problem. :D

[manoyfrancis]

Originally posted by inquisitor
I know this person who posted this. He was recently terminated by Sir Mark and he is very disgruntled. He was caught stealing a cellphone from an employee in the company and justly as HR Director, Sir Mark terminated him after putting him through the disciplinary process. I know this first-hand because I was the victim and lost my brand-new phone to him. Buti na lang may mga witnesses na nakakita sa kanya. Dude, grabe ka naman, biniktima mo na nga ako sa pagnanakaw ng cellphone tapos nagmamalinis ka pa at sinisiraan mo pa si Sir Mark ngunit ginagawa lang niya yung trabaho niya. Di ko na babanggitin pangalan mo dahil alam ko nakakahiya ang ginawa mo at hindi ako katulad mo na maglalagay ng pangalan dito. Di ka ba nakokonsensya tuwing natutulog ka sa ginawa mo?

why not name this guy already?
unless you're making up this story too.

[boogerflicker]

bago maging "sir mark, hr of alvion" thread ito, ano pa ang mga kumpanyang maisasama dito?

[alvion2004]

i agree with manoy. inquisitor, who am i, really? nga pala, our VP in the US sent out an email today. "sir mark" was eased out of his position. all local hr tasks will no longer be handled by him. he's role now is to handle global hr activities, which is reall an '"imaginary " role, kase wala very limited ang global activities ng hr sa alvion. it's the VP's way of telling "sir mark" to resign, parang binigyan sya ng chance to exit gracefully. kaya lang manhid talaga, tsk tsk tsk

[woulfe27]

hey alvion04, balita ko 3 weeks na daw awol si mark dyan. nabalitaan siguro na naghahanap na ng bagong HR manager ang alvion. kung ginawa agad nila yan nuon, hindi sana umalis yung mga employees ng alvion. well, better late than never...

kelan pala lipat mo sa new company mo? malamang magkasabay tayo ng lipat. medyo dyahi nga dun sa new country manager ng alvion kase she was expecting na i'll stay with the company. kaso sawa na rin ako sobrang office politics. saka mukhang ok naman sa verifone, wala nga lang parking. pero baka raw magkaron ng tax shield. sabihan kita pag me opening dun. kaso i-PM mo naman sa kin yung new cell phone # mo :D

btw, flexi time din sa verifone. hehehe, kala ko last job ko na na flexi time yung alvion and microsoft GP, buti na lang nauuso na yang flexi time sa ibang IT companies.

[mister__G]

I was applying at Alvion, before they moved from Cavite to Makati. I went through a long interview process and even had me call their US office for a telephone interview. In the end, they never called me back and reading the threads here I'm glad they never did...

I read somewhere that Alvion is listed as a spamming company. I wonder if that's true.

[Jareth]

Ingat lang sa Epixtar- it's a web cramming scam company....

and the management really sucks...

here, check these out:

www.stocklemon.com/articles/06_02_03.html

www.ftc.gov/opa/2003/11/epixtar.htm

www.techdirt.com/articles/20030423/144241.shtml

www.our-street.com/Epixtar.htm

[Yummy_Caviar]

Epixtar call center ba yan dito? parang nakita ko yan sa isang job fair

[manila]

FYI, Epixtar no longer runs a campaign of web services... Epixtar's management and executive staff is the best among the world. Most of the well known call center established here (Etel and so on) has seeked the help of all our Exec staff. :o)

Epixtar is one of the best call centers to work for. Earn More, Learn More, Be More. Only two other centers in the country pay more than Epixtar.

Epixtar will soon be one of the most well known call centers in the country. Check out the website...

www.epixtar.com

only fortune 500 company campaigns here.. only the best quality from here on out...

if you want to earn more and love coming to work, Epixtar is the place for you. check out our facilities on our website...

[Ronnel_SBC]

Originally posted by woulfe27
hey alvion04, balita ko 3 weeks na daw awol si mark dyan. nabalitaan siguro na naghahanap na ng bagong HR manager ang alvion. kung ginawa agad nila yan nuon, hindi sana umalis yung mga employees ng alvion. well, better late than never...

kelan pala lipat mo sa new company mo? malamang magkasabay tayo ng lipat. medyo dyahi nga dun sa new country manager ng alvion kase she was expecting na i'll stay with the company. kaso sawa na rin ako sobrang office politics. saka mukhang ok naman sa verifone, wala nga lang parking. pero baka raw magkaron ng tax shield. sabihan kita pag me opening dun. kaso i-PM mo naman sa kin yung new cell phone # mo :D

btw, flexi time din sa verifone. hehehe, kala ko last job ko na na flexi time yung alvion and microsoft GP, buti na lang nauuso na yang flexi time sa ibang IT companies.

ang yabang naman nito.... pare me inuman ba this week? :D

[woulfe27]

Originally posted by Ronnel_SBC
ang yabang naman nito.... pare me inuman ba this week? :D


ulul! next week na lang inuman. masama na naman ba loob mo? hehe :D

[Jareth]

woulfe27! kilala kita! taga Microsoft Great Plains ka dati noh? ;)

[penpusher]

Originally posted by mister__G
I was applying at Alvion, before they moved from Cavite to Makati. I went through a long interview process and even had me call their US office for a telephone interview. In the end, they never called me back and reading the threads here I'm glad they never did...

I read somewhere that Alvion is listed as a spamming company. I wonder if that's true.


The former office is in Subic, not in Cavite. :)

I have been working in Alvion for almost 2 years now and I must say that generally, working here ain't that bad, contrary to the bad reputation the company is getting in this thread. We have professional and competent people and the "fun work" culture within the company is something unheard of in many companies. Being a "carryover" from the Subic office, I have the benefit of living in a comfortable place near our office, and this is paid by the company. The flexi time policy is also a plus.

The only thing "bad" going for us was the issue on the HR Director, and that has been resolved with the official announcement of his depature from the company. I was one of those directly affected by his incompetence and I agree with all the negative feedback about him in this thread. But Alvion is not our HR Director, and vice versa, so I am clarifying that the issue is on the HR Director, and he (unfortunately) happens to be a former employee here. We may have been affected by all the HR malpractices that we saw during his 1-year stay but that does not reflect the kind of employees we have here and the company that we are.

And no, we are not a spamming company. We are a software firm servicing the direct marketing industry in the US.

[woulfe27]

hehe jareth, ex-Microsoft GP ka ba? nasa headstrong ka na ba? :D

[woulfe27]

i agree with penpusher, alvion now has a competent country manager who can steer the company to the right direction. and alvion is not a spamming company, in fact, it's a victim of spammers itself.

alvion's former HR diretor is the worse i've seen in all the companies i've worked. buti na lang nasisante na sya. kaya lang kawawa naman yung company na lilipatan nya :D

[figureskater]

Saan po ba yung Alvion? Saan sila nagpo-post ng job vacancies?