TATTOO = decreased hireability?

[rave81]

if your work is a medical field let say doctor, nurse, med tech etc, is there any policy that dont allow tattoo ?, or if you are going to us and work as a medical whatever is it ok to have a tattoo ??

[eyedoc]

I am not aware of any such policy. But then, I never thought of getting a tattoo either.

BTW, I think this thread is better suited to "The Working Filipino". Moving...

[The Phoenix]

A tatoo is not a basis for employment.

However, your employer/agency will definitely request some blood tests to determine if you acquired some bloodborne illness as a result of tatooing which may prove a potential health risk for patients especially if one will be working in the medical field.

These screening tests are also requested for all migrant workers regardless of whether they have a tatoo or not. The results especially when positive for something can jeopardize your employment.

[b_chai19]

Hi I just don't know where to place this question. But I hope ma answer nyo...Thanks! I have a friend nagusto magwork kaso medyo naiintimidate sya..actually nahihiya dahil baka di sya tanggapin..he has the qualities, alright. Theproblem is, he has a tattoo! :c Worried sick na sya regarding this. Takot sya mag apply sa big companies dahil takot sa rejection...though i know baka may possibility, dahil sa meron nga syang tattoo..PERO is it also possible na matanggap din sya? Kahit d sa Big companies??? Meron ba na work na la pakiaalam kahit may tattoo *** tao?Basta na sakanya *** qualties? :D Di naman ganon kalaki *** tattoo e...

[KuyaDanny]

Two questions:

Where is the tattoo?
What kind of job is he looking for?

[Ice Burn]

I never really experienced getting rejected because of a tattoo... But then again my tattoos are in places not easily seen...

Though I WAS worried when I went to my new job since it was an international organization but I noticed that a lot of people sported tattoos so I guess it was fine... :)

[Shokosugi]

I've seen lives ruined by Tattoos...they are the primary cause of suicide in some countries...


jk :D

[fartmanfart]

ipa laser nya. para walang prob.

[Dunedain]

Tattoos have been around way way way before the word "corporation" or "stock market" was even coined. They are no different from any other beauty mark. Sadly, Pinoys immediately tags people with tattoos as convicts or those who have violated the law. If so, maybe we should entirely take away freedom of expression and live like zombies. I have a couple of buddies who have tattoos on both their arms - and rake above the $50k/year bracket for their skills, and not for their tattoos.

Isn't it amazing that in Pinas, people hire the next person with looks rather than skills? And they blame those leaving the country for greener pastures.

[vinta18]

b_chai19: seems to me your friend is not confident enough to have a tattoo. In that case, he's better off having those removed.

Dunedain: wala pa namang kaso ng discrimination, medyo kinakabahan lang yung kaibigan ni b_chai19

[Shokosugi]

IMO ppl with Tattoos are total idiots.


Originally posted by Dunedain
I have a couple of buddies who have tattoos on both their arms - and rake above the $50k/year bracket for their skills, and not for their tattoos.



....Well that explains why your buddies are earning $50k and not $150k.

[mister__G]

I wouldn't go to far as to call them total idiots, just impulsive.
They got a tatoo/ swithout considering the long term implications. Have you ever seen a 60 year old woman with tatoos? It's not a pretty sight. Sure that cool pattern or design looks so nice now, but what is trendy now will be tacky tomorrow. Makes me consider getting into the tatoo removal biz; by the time these kids hit 40, they'll be falling in line to get those formerly "*****in'" tatoos removed. LOL

Dunedain, we're not the only ones who have a cultural loathing of tatoos. In Japanese society, tatoos are the mark of outcasts like Yakuza. I think the same prejudice is found in Korea, but I could be wrong.

Regardless of what I think of tatoos, I wouldn't base my HR decisions on whether someone has a tatoos or not. Unless the tatoo is visible and may interfere with their work.

[vinta18]

Originally posted by Shokosugi
IMO ppl with Tattoos are total idiots.





....Well that explains why your buddies are earning $50k and not $150k.

Uhm, no it doesn't. You're the idiot for thinking that. :)

[clawed_out]

yeah s/he'll be a big idiot if s/he has a college education & knows the implication if s/he'll get a tattoo as big as his/her body.

that'll take a definite toll. most of the companies in the philippines are "conservative". so with that, you can see the picture.

[SILENTMAX]

hmmm that is conflicting

i was recently hiring, and if i did see a tatoo on a person applying for a managerial possition i would think twice about hiring that person.

but then again the shining chracter of that person would be his/her hiring point.

[KuyaDanny]

Depends on what his job requires. If he were to be confined within the office I would see no problem with the tattoo no matter where it was on his body. But if I had to send him out as a representative of the company to meet customers or clients, I might have cause for concern.

I have had complaints from my clients about the people we send to meet them. Some have to do with physical or cosmetic characteristics (unpresentable or sexually revealing clothes, bad breath, body odor), behavior (chewing or bubble gum on the job), or attitude (unapologetically late, visible anger, carelessness). These complaints often adversely affect successful business outcomes, but the things they complain about are easily corrected or prevented from happening again.

Now if someone with a tattoo on his forehead, or full body which is visible on his forearms were to turn off some of my customers, how easy is that to correct? Am I about to argue about nondiscrimination? I might win the argument but lose the customer's business forever. In such a case, can the tattooed guy come back to me and tell me he is still capable of doing his job?

[ready2go]

i think depende sa nature ng trabaho na gagawin mo. malaking bagay din kung ano ang itsura ng tatoo.

imagine natin si... jay manalo... di ba may tatoo sha sa braso... would you hire him if he applies? hehe. sa tingin ko marami magsasabi ng oo. anyway, mali ang test ko... ito na lang...

assuming 2 applicants which are equally skilled but one has a visible tatoo along the arm and the other one doesn't... who would you hire if the position to be filled is:

1.) an office messenger?
2.) a clerk?
3.) an office manager?
4.) a sales representative?
5.) a call center agent?
6.) a factory supervisor?
7.) a vice-president for finance?

[Shokosugi]

in all positions you specified i'd hire the one WITHOUT a tattoo.

[JENSIE_G]

Well kung nasa **** naman ang tatoo, I can't see why it should annoy people at work.

:glee:

But then again, depende kung anong "work".

:D

[Shokosugi]

haha jensie!!! :D

[JENSIE_G]

Pero kiddin' aside... I find tattoos disgusting... It's so unhygienic.

:yuck:

[sabot]

Tattoo is an art. The only problem right now is, most people don't see it that way.

But it all depends on the principles of the company or institution that you are trying to get into.

I used to work for a Korean company but the boss did not want anyone to have tattoos.

Pero ngayon sa job ko, ok lang may tattoo.

Kung teaching job, ok lang may tattoo (depende sa school). You can be a prof sa DLSU with a tattoo :) <--I asked a prof, ayos lang daw.


Syempre importante, di naman masyadong showy na parang imo-model mo na ang sining ng iyong katawan.

Pero sa opinyon ko lang, no one can judge anyone based on a tattoo per se because it cannot speak for one's performance. I mean, it's not shabu or ganja. It's just a tattoo, a skin art.

And Shokosugi, sabihin mo na idiot ako because i have 7 tattoos. And I could say the same thing to you as well for making such remark. The thing is, you can't judge a person based on tattoos. It's like saying that you can't hire this person just because he or she is gay or lesbian.

Open your mind buddy boy.

[Shokosugi]

sabot....thats very nice and i hope you wake up from your dream...in reality...people DO judge a person based on their appearance...you can whine all you want but you won't change people's prejudice against tattoos... :)

[mister__G]

The only jobs what will not discriminate against people with tatoos are those that employ a majority of them, like the Maritime industry and the military. One of the few people I know with tatoos is a drill sargeant in the Marines. In his case, it comes with the job.

[sabot]

Originally posted by Shokosugi
sabot....thats very nice and i hope you wake up from your dream...in reality...people DO judge a person based on their appearance...you can whine all you want but you won't change people's prejudice against tattoos... :)

I understand that some companies judge a person by his/her appearance based on the job he/she is applying for. Like for example, front desk clerk sa hotel or a VJ. If you don't look good, you are not qualified enough.

The thing is, you generalize but you are not even considering the fact that some companies/institutions (media, education, call centers, ad agencies etc) nowadays are accepting people with tattoos. Even managers/supervisors of some companies have tattoos. Even professors! And they deliver Sophocles and Shakespeare right to your brain!


Though I cannot change your pristine prejudice against those with skin art, I still believe you're making a hasty generalization and a discriminating one.

Look at this way: not everyone with tattoos are "idiots" to borrow your word. A clean-shaven person that smells like your 100 hundred dollar Davidoff and wearing a Hugo Boss suit could be an idiot also.

And btw, your reality (whatever that is; based on Christian ideals maybe? ewan.) right now is being subverted. Just look around you. So wake up from your dream also.

[Shokosugi]

citing an exception does not disprove the rule. People with tattoos are idiots and that's a fact. :)

hasty generalization? yes. are there exception to the rule? yes.
are people with tattoos idiots? yes. :)

will I hire someone with Tattoos? NO. :)

[sabot]

Originally posted by Shokosugi
citing an exception does not disprove the rule. People with tattoos are idiots and that's a fact. :)

nah. That's just your little opinion :)


hasty generalization? yes. are there exception to the rule? yes.
are people with tattoos idiots? yes. :)

maybe you should take a look at your answers and define that 5-letter word for me in Russian. :)



will I hire someone with Tattoos? NO. :) [/B]

then don't. :p

[Shokosugi]

sabot...does it bother you thinking that you will never EVER get ahead in life because of your tattoo? :D

admit it sabot, deep down inside you want that tattoo in your butt removed. hehehe :D

[vinta18]

sabot: huwag mo nang patulan. Mahirap talagang makipagtalo sa bobo :)

[sabot]

Shokosugi...does it bother you that you cannot say anything substantial to someone younger than you are?:D

And oh, does it bother you that someday, one of your "kids" could be a student of mine? Just a thought :)

Hmm, actually, having a buttcheek tattoo is painful for me. So I decided to place them on my legs and back.

have a nice day!

[clawed_out]

then to each his own. big deal.

the tattoo discussion is more focused on your hireabilty in the corporate world meaning mas conservative sila. as compared to other professions.

so, who cares if the magtataho or the mamang secu has tons of tattoo? who cares if i have one? do i have to forcibly open the minds of other people who thinks that tatts are ugly? sorry hindi ako ang nawawalang anak ni mother theresa & pope john paul to be that devoted & passionate about "opening the minds of those naive people".

[Shokosugi]

in denial lang tong mga may Tattoo! :D

[pinay24]

Shokosugi-don't be PATHETIC - People who have tattoo doesn't mean they are IDIOTs.Before I am not favor of having tattoo because I think it is just dirt but if you learn to appreciate the ARTS of tattoo then you wouldn't say that. you should think of TATTOO as BODY ART. Ok lang naman yan basta ba pagnasa work ka wag mong ipag display iyan.

Tattoo? Decreased Hireability-Depends.
Just remember anyone with tattoo is a RED FLAG(anywhere). But as long as yong tattoo naman di nakikita.

Here some companies & people ha who allow Employees to tattoo & body piercing:

1. Ford Motor
2.Boeing Co
3.Wilson, Sonsini, Goodrich, & Rosati -LAW FIRM pa yan
4. Senior EXecutive Lawyer- named Paul Hempel
" Apple nga features the neuroscientist tattoo" sa Macintosh Apple LOGO nila.

Etc etc.

Depende lang yong unless it is part of the company policy talaga eh wala tayong magagawa. But mostly, nowadays it is WHOM you know for you to be able to get the job (in terms of percentage & it always happens) & not you know. I have known a lot of people even if they have been with the known company unless na you are REALLY GOOD & the BEST in that field. Some Computer field naman ok naman yong tattoo

Here are some fields/companies I know who does not want to hire people with tattoo(s):
1.pharmaceutical/Medical field
2.financial companies(banks)
3. Human Resources

[Dunedain]

Originally posted by Shokosugi
IMO ppl with Tattoos are total idiots.

....Well that explains why your buddies are earning $50k and not $150k.

Er... ...read the last sentence again. There is that keyword "above" so they could be raking $150k.

If not, what's the big deal? The sky won't fall, the Earth won't explode, and the oceans won't dry up. Besides, these guys have homes of their own, supporting their own families, raising and putting their kids to school, feed them at least 3x a day, get proper medical attention whenever needed, live a life of their own, and so on and so on and so on (with a surfboard at hand). How many folks even have a home that they can call their own? Or how many people do actually get their meals 3x a day? Here's the best part: how many people do have a job (regardless of having a tattoo or not)?

Criticizing folks just because they have a tattoo (which has been around if you haven't troubled to know a wee bit of history) is simply a practice of "hate" or discrimination.

[AnGeLJoLi]

I previously worked in large and prestigious manufacturing company. My Corporate Communications Manager sported two tattoos. She (yes, she) had one on her back and one on her right ankle. I guess, the big bosses (really famous Chinese family) didn't object to her having tattoos because no one in our company was making a big deal out of it. Besides, she was really good in her job.

[Shokosugi]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

i still think ppl with Tattoos are TOTAL IDIOTS! :D :D :D

[clawed_out]

ok people it's time to feed the parrot here.

after that we'll teach him new tricks! :)

[«FickleMinded»]

http://www.miamihost.net/ims/u/SweetPea_no8/Dolls/snoopy.gif
*pexadik*--Depende sa kung anong klaseng tattoo at kung saan nya nakuha ,pero actually,isa rin yan sa mga reason (not on top though)na sometimes hindi talaga matanggap sa work,minsan regardless of what kind of tattoo you got.Kasi you're tattoo also reflect what kind of person you are.Dito sa US,kapag hindi ka tinanggap sa work bec of having a tattoo,you can't file a case of discrimination,bec they can simply called it "Company Policy" :D

[vinta18]

^ I guess if it's a gang related tattoo...

But then again, they're probably not hiring you because of your gang connections, and not the tatoo per se.

[soltera81]

Don’t generalize. People can do anything on themselves as long as it doesn’t harm other individuals. Having a tattoo is a choice, a personal style. Well, they may not be cautious enough about their actions or what they put on their skin and to some it is an idiocy but we should respect them for their predilection. Anyway, one can alter his previous choices and patch things up. There is a laser removal for tattoo.

The question was whether tattoo decrease one’s chance of being hired. I say it depends on the culture of the company. b_chai19’s friend should first study the culture of the company he is interested to be a part of. If it has a formal and conservative practices and he really wants to be part of that company, he might consider having the tattoo removed. But there are also company who don’t give a damn about this and just look on skills and capabilities.

[Shokosugi]

...and companies also has a choice not to hire ppl with tattoos...

you are competing with hundreds of thousands of job applicants out there...don't give companies a reason not to hire you.

[haberdasher]

some here really pretends to know it all ...

[wandawoman]

TATTOO: decrease hireability? Personally I don't know, but in my previous office they decline from accepting people with tattoo I don't know why. With the nature of business they have, its an IT company so I guess it doesn't matter whether people working there have tattoo or not, but they just dont allow people w/ tattoos to be hired, I guess its on a case to case basis.

[4q!]

may discrimination ba sa mga taong may tattoos sa mga companies niyo?
mahirap bang matanggap sa trabaho ang taong may mga tattoos?
my friend who used to work at accenture was asked if has tattoos before he was sent abroad...

[Ice Burn]

nope. I've got 2 tattoos and I've seen people with pierced eyebrows and noses and considering that we have to wear business attire almost everyday, it's kind of funny... :)

[gumacanian]

nope. I've got 2 tattoos and I've seen people with pierced eyebrows and noses and considering that we have to wear business attire almost everyday, it's kind of funny... :)

But considering they are on your butt is it of any consequence?

[Ice Burn]

But considering they are on your butt is it of any consequence?

I'd like to think of it on my lower back rather than my butt :lol: (my other one's above my left foot and clearly visible if i am in skirts)...
Consequence? Not for where I work...I've seen people with much larger tattoos on their hands and arms and it's not a big deal...

[aticus]

At least those with tattoos have the option to have them removed. :) Some people, however, are stuck with the brains they were born with. :naughty:

On a serious note, I agree with Kuya Danny that hiring someone with visible tattoos might harm your business, especially if your business relies on projecting a certain "image" that the public expects to see. For example, how many airline pilots would you expect the public to trust if they had visible tattoos all over their face? I'm not questioning their abilities... I'm questioning public perception and bias... the same bias that decrees that female swimsuit models must be thin and sexy, that movie stars have to be good-looking to be leading men/women, and so on. I know there will always be exceptions to the rule, but those are indeed exceptions.

Then again, there are certain businesses that almost require tattoos for credibility... such as hard-core motocross in the X-Games, or rapping, or even playing in the NBA. ;) I don't think any team in the NBA would reject getting Allen Iverson because he doesn't look "presentable" with his tattoos.

[thehitman]

Call centers don't seem to mind if people have tattoos. A lot of my officemates here have tattoos and some of them don't even try to hide them. I guess these tattoos might become an issue if or when call centers decide to provide videocon/webcam support.

:cool:

[jisc]

depende yan sa tatoo eh, kung tatoo mo eh modern tatoo na coloured pa, baka ok lang kasi iisipin nila your only expressing yourself, pero kung tatoo mo eh ahas tapos may nakasulat pa tulad ng "batang rehas" o kaya "boy bawang" eh medyo di na maganda yon.

kung may tatoo ka sa arms eh di mag long sleeves ka para di kita, kung naka longsleeves ka at naka pants eh konti lang skin ang exposed, kung sa kamay eh ipamulsa mo lagi, unless may tatoo ka sa mukha, eh iba na yon

[4q!]

...kung ipatatu mo logo ng company mo, di ka na siguro tatanggalin sa trabaho =)

[cyp]

if you have tats.. try the call center industry.... :)

[Ratman]

Tattoos have been around way way way before the word "corporation" or "stock market" was even coined. They are no different from any other beauty mark. Sadly, Pinoys immediately tags people with tattoos as convicts or those who have violated the law. If so, maybe we should entirely take away freedom of expression and live like zombies. I have a couple of buddies who have tattoos on both their arms - and rake above the $50k/year bracket for their skills, and not for their tattoos.

Isn't it amazing that in Pinas, people hire the next person with looks rather than skills? And they blame those leaving the country for greener pastures.


Freedom of expression or not, I for one will not hire anybody with a tattoo, because:

Tats reflect on a person's general attitude to life. Kung nagpa-tat ka, ano pa kaya ang gagawin mo?

Tats indicate rebellion where conformity is needed. Kailangan ko ng mapagkakatiwalaan, di yung maingay.

Nagpagamit ka sa ibang tao para madrowingan ka; ganun ka ba kababang tao?

[4q!]

Freedom of expression or not, I for one will not hire anybody with a tattoo, because:

Tats reflect on a person's general attitude to life. Kung nagpa-tat ka, ano pa kaya ang gagawin mo?

Tats indicate rebellion where conformity is needed. Kailangan ko ng mapagkakatiwalaan, di yung maingay.

Nagpagamit ka sa ibang tao para madrowingan ka; ganun ka ba kababang tao?

even if the tattooed fella is more capable than the others?

and how'd u know tats indicate rebellion? i have a tattoo of my father's name not because i rebelled against my parents but i honor and remember the time he was with us..
if i just could tattoo myself. i would do it...but i suck at drawing, so there you go...i paid for the service of an artist.. and in the first place, you dictate what the artist should do...so ano yung "nagpagamit" dun?

[Dunedain]

Freedom of expression or not, I for one will not hire anybody with a tattoo, because:

Tats reflect on a person's general attitude to life. Kung nagpa-tat ka, ano pa kaya ang gagawin mo?

I don't have one, but I could always get one anytime I want to. Besides, even I do get a tattoo, I'll still be employed with the same company I've been working. Why? Put it this way, I was straight-out expatriated from Pinas to work in the US. I was never asked if I bore a tattoo or even horns (which could be cool) - only my skills. As a track record, I've been expatriated 3x times. How much money have I spent to travel from Pinas to HK or US? Try zero. :D

Tats indicate rebellion where conformity is needed. Kailangan ko ng mapagkakatiwalaan, di yung maingay.

I rebel from conformity. One thing I find idiotic is that everyone jumps on the bandwagon or what is called uso (a really nice word which is actually translated as monkey see, monkey do). Am I supposed to do the same thing as what everyone is doing? When everyone starts watching tear jerker TV shows, am I supposed to watch that too? Hah! I got one word for you to learn: INDIVIDUALITY. Why? Simple: We only get one shot of life. I'd rather be a participant rather than standing by the sides or sitting the bleachers. Grab the bull by the horns! Go figure why it's better than being a part of a "collective".

I wonder, when Einstein came up with E=mc², or Henry Ford invented the horseless carriage, or when Thomas Edison invented the lightbulb, tell me, did they have masses and masses of people to ask and consult if their ideas are OK? I don't think so. They came up with the idea themselves, be it beneficial or not for mankind. That defines them as an individual! No wonder they are recognized throughout history.

Any chance you flunked history and you hate these folks and dreamed that you're the one who pulled it off? You watch way too many "conform" movies. I might even translate the whole thing as "you'd believe anything you see... ...even when Harry Potter flies on a Nimbus 2000 broom".

Nagpagamit ka sa ibang tao para madrowingan ka

Yes, I did. And paid her handsomely as well. Try PHP7,000 back in 1988). Did anyone from the art group try to approach her sexually? No! That's totally unprofessional for an artist. It's completely unethical.

Want an overview? I was with a band of people who draws and paints composed of freelancers, and university art professors. One of them who somewhat adopted me as a son has painted several nudes, stills, and portraits now has his work on postcards recognized and published by the United Nations for the benefit of UNICEF (even as I type this post). To this day, I still look up to him as a mentor and a 2nd father.

If you find helping less fortunate children to be offensive or paying a woman to take off her clothes and get paid with her full consent and no one even forced her to it, it was offered, you got a very serious problem.

ganun ka ba kababang tao?

Oh, you definitely belong to the Philippines! Just because I don't adhere to your ideas? Wow! Are you a communist? I'd suggest you go see a psychiatrist and find consultation to define yourself as an individual.

Reason why Pinas doesn't progress at all? It's because of folks like you who adhere to conformity rather than taking a stand and stepping forward. It's because Pinoys like you look at the person just for their apperance rather than their skills which defines poor employers and/or employees. It's because Pinoys like you hate those who makes a difference, regardless of magnitude or caliber. Most Pinoys I've met along the way just practice "makinabang", "makikinabang" or "pakinabangan". If you haven't figured this one out, stay in Pinas (with the backward society). You'll have no chance to survive in a foreign country.

[Louie7]

IMO ppl with Tattoos are total idiots.





....Well that explains why your buddies are earning $50k and not $150k.

Hmmm....if you had said people who smoke are idiots then you would have sounded less ignorant. How could a culture that looks down on tattoos condone cigarette smoking, drinking, gambling and womanizing. Some of you need to travel the world before making silly comments rather than making your opinion of the world through movies, the internet and the news. In the USA, high school graduates could easily make over $50,000 U.S. A few high school graduates make $150,000. People are not judged here by the way they look, but, what they could bring to the company.

Tattoos are done for different reasons. Some are for gang affiliations (I don't beleive this is positive by the way), some for art, some for religious reasons (pictures of Christ, a Saint, a Bible, etc), some for love of family (tattoo of kids names, souse), some to commemorate certain important events (In memory of deceased loved ones).

So if some of you think the person with a tattoo, has poor reasoning and judgement, what do you think of a person that smokes cigarettes? How about a parent that smokes while holding their infant or in a car with their kids. What about drinking until you vomit? What about gambling your life savings away? What about having a lot of "Kabits". How come I don't here Filipinos say anything negative about a lot of our bad habits and life styles as if it is acceptable and almost looked up upon. Why does it seem normal for Filipinos and other Asians to brag about, how much they bet on gambling, how much alcohol they drank, how many mistresses they have, how many people they beat up. When I hear this from people, I hear them saying, "Look what an idiot I am".

[Louie7]

I'd like to think of it on my lower back rather than my butt :lol: (my other one's above my left foot and clearly visible if i am in skirts)...
Consequence? Not for where I work...I've seen people with much larger tattoos on their hands and arms and it's not a big deal...

In some cultures your Avatar will be considered x-rated, :crazytongue:
I do like the tat on your back, is that like the symbol for justice but with a bong in the middle.

[Louie7]

I wouldn't go to far as to call them total idiots, just impulsive.
They got a tatoo/ swithout considering the long term implications. Have you ever seen a 60 year old woman with tatoos? It's not a pretty sight.

>>No, in fact I admire the old Igorota women by not being ashame to show their true cultural heritage.

Sure that cool pattern or design looks so nice now, but what is trendy now will be tacky tomorrow.
Makes me consider getting into the tatoo removal biz; by the time these kids hit 40, they'll be falling in line to get those formerly "*****in'" tatoos removed. LOL

>>I think you better think of another business or you'll starve to death.

Dunedain, we're not the only ones who have a cultural loathing of tatoos. In Japanese society, tatoos are the mark of outcasts like Yakuza. I think the same prejudice is found in Korea, but I could be wrong.

>>What year are you in. I have been to both countries. Although Koreans are a lot more conservative than Filipinos, Japanese are not. Not anymore!

Regardless of what I think of tatoos, I wouldn't base my HR decisions on whether someone has a tatoos or not. Unless the tatoo is visible and may interfere with their work.

>>I have yet to see a tattoo interfere with someones work. The only way I think it would, is if a tattoo is used to broadcast hate or descrimination. I haven't personally met anyone with that tattoo yet.

[Ice Burn]

In some cultures your Avatar will be considered x-rated, :crazytongue:
I do like the tat on your back, is that like the symbol for justice but with a bong in the middle.

It's a scorpion holding weighing scales...libra-scorpio.


Freedom of expression or not, I for one will not hire anybody with a tattoo, because:

Tats reflect on a person's general attitude to life. Kung nagpa-tat ka, ano pa kaya ang gagawin mo?

very judgemental dude. But then again, that's the Philippines for you. I look forward to the day where you can sue companies for discriminating on the basis of physical attributes.

Tats indicate rebellion where conformity is needed. Kailangan ko ng mapagkakatiwalaan, di yung maingay.

You might as well be dreaming of a society like the BORG COLLECTIVE eh?

Nagpagamit ka sa ibang tao para madrowingan ka; ganun ka ba kababang tao?

Seriously, this made me laugh. Sometimes it amazes me how narrow minded some people can get. :lol:


IMO ppl with Tattoos are total idiots.

Whatever crisps your bacon pal. :p

[Louie7]

......It's a scorpion holding weighing scales...libra-scorpio.

Sorry, can't picture a scorpion by the size of the pic, but I bet it looks cool in reality.

>>>>Shokosugi wrote...sabot....thats very nice and i hope you wake up from your dream...in reality...people DO judge a person based on their appearance...you can whine all you want but you won't change people's prejudice against tattoos...

People that judge people by their appearance is like judging a book by its cover. A lot of brilliant people past and today that have contributed a great deal to the world to make this place a better place to live would not have been discovered if they were judged by their appearance alone.

>>>>Shokosugi wrote.........HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i still think ppl with Tattoos are TOTAL IDIOTS!

What people say tells a lot about that person. Shokosugi, have you ever heard the saying: "It is better to be thought of as an idiot, than open your mouth and erase all doubt"

[TURBONETICS]

ako may tattoo pero i work for a multinational company. ok lang naman basta hindi nakikita.

[Louie7]

Ice Burn...how did you upload your avatar. Is there a minimum post requirement. My user CP won't allow me to do it.

[Ratman]

It's a scorpion holding weighing scales...libra-scorpio.



very judgemental dude. But then again, that's the Philippines for you. I look forward to the day where you can sue companies for discriminating on the basis of physical attributes.



You might as well be dreaming of a society like the BORG COLLECTIVE eh?



Seriously, this made me laugh. Sometimes it amazes me how narrow minded some people can get. :lol:



Whatever crisps your bacon pal. :p

Honey, if anything, my mind is one big nonconformist tattoo, which no hippy with blobs of body ink can ever outdo.

[4q!]

oh dear...you think hippies have tattoos? damn. this is not the '70s...
haven't seen a hippie with a tattoo...

[Dunedain]

Honey, if anything, my mind is one big nonconformist tattoo, which no hippy with blobs of body ink can ever outdo.

Wow! Now you're a nonconformist? Not too long ago you specifically wrote...

Tats indicate rebellion where conformity is needed. Kailangan ko ng mapagkakatiwalaan, di yung maingay.

So what you want are folks to conform to your norms while you do something else of non-conformist? Jeez H. Cripes! I know what you are now: CONFUSED. :lol:

[Ice Burn]

^^Dunedain: you beat me to it. :lol:

Honey, if anything, my mind is one big nonconformist tattoo, which no hippy with blobs of body ink can ever outdo.
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Tats reflect on a person's general attitude to life. Kung nagpa-tat ka, ano pa kaya ang gagawin mo?

Nagpagamit ka sa ibang tao para madrowingan ka; ganun ka ba kababang tao?.
You mean to say that you let someone molest your mind by drawing on it? Ok is that how low you think of yourself now? I mean that's how you view tattoos and now you call your mind a nonconformist tattoo... So basically now your mind is all stagnant and you can't do anything about it anymore?
That's pretty sad. :lol: :p

Ice Burn...how did you upload your avatar. Is there a minimum post requirement. My user CP won't allow me to do it.
I'm a PEX Premium Plus member hence I get an avatar :D Oh btw, before you ask me the how to's, there's a link on the announcements and suggestions page on the PEX Premium Plus membership.

[Jin_Kazama]

i'm not against people who sport tattoos. like any form of art or decoration, nasa nagdadala yan. jay manalo, ali peek and angelina jolie sport hoards of tattoos on their bodies and they look sexy as hell (though personally, i think overkill ang mga tattoo ni angelina sa katawan ... too much na)! but if you look at alex crisano and that ex-boyfriend of daisy something ... player din ... kahit na meztiso sila, hindi nila "carry" yung mga tattoo nila. (i think they look madungis)

having tattoos really shouldn't matter but you have to admit that some jobs really rely heavily on looks and if your tattoo is visible in your mukha or your arms ... it may cause a stir.

sana lang, naisip muna ng friend mo yung possible repurcussions of having a tattoo before he had it done. hindi madali (at hindi rin mura) magpatanggal nyan. he'd have to live with it (for the meantime) and he should go on and hunt for jobs kahit andyan yan. That shouldn't stop you from having a life.

though technically, having a tattoo really shouldn't matter, sometimes it does. lalo na siguro if the interviewer notices na you're ilang with your tattoo.

as for those with tattoos and are proud of it, and can say "keber nyo ba na i have a tattoo, i'm qualified and if you don't get me it's your loss" ... bilib ako sa inyo. :) you're gutsy. something i wish i were.

[Louie7]

as for those with tattoos and are proud of it, and can say "keber nyo ba na i have a tattoo, i'm qualified and if you don't get me it's your loss" ... bilib ako sa inyo. :) you're gutsy. something i wish i were.

One who is confident and highly qualified need not even mention or hide his or her tattoo. If Richard Gear in "Pretty Woman" had exposed tattoos, it won't diminish his sellability. If you come across inconfident, then a tattoo will probably lessen your hireability.

I didn't know any of my co-workers had tattoos until I got one several years ago. I got a five inch long tattoo on my forearm and came to work in short sleeves. I got a lot of compliments, then some of my co-workers showed me theirs which were mostly hidden. I said why go through the pain and cost of getting one when nobody could see it. I am in direct contact with our customers and I don't hide it from them either. My supervisors and customers both like my work. I plan to retire with my company. Maybe I'll get one or more tattoos before that time comes.

[Jin_Kazama]

One who is confident and highly qualified need not even mention or hide his or her tattoo. If Richard Gear in "Pretty Woman" had exposed tattoos, it won't diminish his sellability. If you come across inconfident, then a tattoo will probably lessen your hireability.

I didn't know any of my co-workers had tattoos until I got one several years ago. I got a five inch long tattoo on my forearm and came to work in short sleeves. I got a lot of compliments, then some of my co-workers showed me theirs which were mostly hidden. I said why go through the pain and cost of getting one when nobody could see it. I am in direct contact with our customers and I don't hide it from them either. My supervisors and customers both like my work. I plan to retire with my company. Maybe I'll get one or more tattoos before that time comes.


hi louie7, what i meant was that you're just confident with it. you don't care if it's there and you don't care if other people see it (and are aghast by it).

being confident about it and being brazen are two different things. iba yung yelling out: "hey dudes! look, I got a big tattoo on my arm ... check it out!!!" sa saying: "oh you noticed my tattoo ... thanks. kewl no?"

Basta, I agree with your very very first sentence: "One who is confident and highly qualified need not even mention or hide his or her tattoo."

Siguro those questioning whether a tattoo would affect their "desireability" in the work place are simply just not that confident of themselves. It's not the tattoo that they are conscious of or worried about, but their capabilities.

Kung ikaw ba naman summa cum laude sa MIT at alam mong you have what it takes, kesehodang may tattoo ka sa katawan. :D

sorry kung malabo at walang coherence post ko ... di pa naja-jumpstart utak ko.

[eeery]

always wanted a design graphics-inspired tattoo from my neck down but somehow can’t have it done because of tattoo shops’ prohibitive prices. so i decided to buy a complete tattoo set which i would give away to the artist once my tattoos are done. so now i’m looking for an artist who could work on weekends (i have a place in anonas, project 2) and who’s also into graphics. tattoo experience preferred but not necessary. the idea, really, is to translate graphics design onto my skin, should be awesome! txt me your rates @ (0916)2929-101. will choose best (lowest) offer.
i'm male by the way, small frame @ 5'3", 50 kg.