those applicants...

[orangebleach]

I've been in recruitment for 4 years now ( and 2 companies). Considering that I have moved to a better company, it seems that applicants gets worse every year. Ang daming di dumadating sa schedule nila, last minute request for re-sched, naglalaho parang bula...tapos dami ding 4-year course graduates na bumabagbagsak sa mga common intelligence test!as in tests na puede i-administer sa high school students!

what has happened?!! is it just me or what?!!

Sometimes naiisip ko gumawa ng database ng mga blacklisted applicants para reference ng mga katulad kong nasa recruitment. Bad no? or kaya mag ala "charmed-one" at i-curse lahat sila wag na mag ka work forever and ever! wicked!

sa palagay nyo ano dapat kong gawin?

[woofers]

Originally posted by orangebleach
what has happened?!! is it just me or what?!!

Sometimes naiisip ko gumawa ng database ng mga blacklisted applicants para reference ng mga katulad kong nasa recruitment. Bad no? or kaya mag ala "charmed-one" at i-curse lahat sila wag na mag ka work forever and ever! wicked!


What makes you think there isn't one already? I hear the HR of different call centers have such a blacklist.

There's an HR-Philippines yahoo group.


sa palagay nyo ano dapat kong gawin?

Keep your high standards and hire only those that are qualified for the positions they are applying for. That's your job, isn't it?

[aKoiTo]

"sa palagay nyo ano dapat kong gawin?"

Three choices,

1. Do your job and select only the applicant that will pass the company standard.

or

2. List the schools of those applicants that you say are getting worse then go to that school and voice out your problem, 'maybe' you can help the school in solving this or maybe not. This is only of course if the school is only to be blame which obviously is not.

last

3. Call those applicants and teach them one by one so "yong mga katulad mong nasa recruitment" will not encounter these problems. I'm sure you will help your colleagues.

my two cents.

[bishop]

it's totally annoying interviewing applicants who do not even know what they are applying for. plus, it's more irritating to have applicants who are obviously not qualified yet apply because 'they just want to try it out'.

as for me, if i hear any applicant mention that the reason he/she is applying is that he/she wants to try it out, i immediately strike him/her out.

[vandolph]

Originally posted by orangebleach
I've been in recruitment for 4 years now ( and 2 companies). Considering that I have moved to a better company, it seems that applicants gets worse every year. Ang daming di dumadating sa schedule nila, last minute request for re-sched, naglalaho parang bula...tapos dami ding 4-year course graduates na bumabagbagsak sa mga common intelligence test!as in tests na puede i-administer sa high school students!

what has happened?!! is it just me or what?!!

Sometimes naiisip ko gumawa ng database ng mga blacklisted applicants para reference ng mga katulad kong nasa recruitment. Bad no? or kaya mag ala "charmed-one" at i-curse lahat sila wag na mag ka work forever and ever! wicked!

sa palagay nyo ano dapat kong gawin?

E kasi mga pinoy yan. Dapat masanay ka na.

Pag sa US sila nag-apply, di na sila kinoconsider pag ganyan.

[SuPeR_MaN]

Originally posted by orangebleach
I've been in recruitment for 4 years now ( and 2 companies). Considering that I have moved to a better company, it seems that applicants gets worse every year. Ang daming di dumadating sa schedule nila, last minute request for re-sched, naglalaho parang bula...tapos dami ding 4-year course graduates na bumabagbagsak sa mga common intelligence test!as in tests na puede i-administer sa high school students!

what has happened?!! is it just me or what?!!

Sometimes naiisip ko gumawa ng database ng mga blacklisted applicants para reference ng mga katulad kong nasa recruitment. Bad no? or kaya mag ala "charmed-one" at i-curse lahat sila wag na mag ka work forever and ever! wicked!

sa palagay nyo ano dapat kong gawin?


put yourself into their shoes and somebody curses you of not finding a job for the rest of your life, you'd love that, dont you? :no:

[venn123]

Its all in a days work... Some days are bad some days are good.
Hmmmm ... you mean IQ test nahihirapan sila .... baka naman mahirap talaga.

Anyway, hmm nakakapagtaka ... if the climate right now is mahirap ang makahanap ng work then why is it then that applicants seems to be not interested in pursuing employment in your company ? (postpone, hindi dumating ) . (if you can answer this question may if may be a factor bakit di sila serious sa paghahanap ng trabaho )..

[froshie1]

Originally posted by orangebleach
I've been in recruitment for 4 years now ( and 2 companies). Considering that I have moved to a better company, it seems that applicants gets worse every year. Ang daming di dumadating sa schedule nila, last minute request for re-sched, naglalaho parang bula...tapos dami ding 4-year course graduates na bumabagbagsak sa mga common intelligence test!as in tests na puede i-administer sa high school students!

what has happened?!! is it just me or what?!!

Sometimes naiisip ko gumawa ng database ng mga blacklisted applicants para reference ng mga katulad kong nasa recruitment. Bad no? or kaya mag ala "charmed-one" at i-curse lahat sila wag na mag ka work forever and ever! wicked!

sa palagay nyo ano dapat kong gawin?

answer: it is just you, try to control your emotions. it will get you to nowhere if you don't control it.

so what kung hindi sila dumating? eh di hindi tuloy ang interview. hanap ka ulit ng bago. simple as that.

and about the database, eh I don't know kung gaano katindi ang influence mo sa industry para gumawa ng blacklist at maging basehan na wag ng i-recruit ang isang empleyado. masasabi ko lang eh kawawa naman iyong mga applicants na mag-aapply sa ibang company na maniniwala sa blacklist mo.

solution -> ignore, and hanap ka ng bagong irerecruit. part yan ng job mo na magkaron ng mga hindi sumisipot at umaayaw kaya wag kang maiinis. ang mainis talo.

[KuyaDanny]

Instead of blacklisting these undesirables, endorse them to your competitors. :lol:

[Pin@tubo]

coming out with a blacklist is like a death sentence. who are we to judge people and take away other career opportunities from them? kaya nga may background checking eh. let the hiring company decide whether they want to take someone who didn't have a nice track record in recruitment/employment. what may not work for you may work for others.

but it's true, more people are becoming unprofessional these days when applying. it's a common filipino trait, being too passive. they don't want to tell it straight to your face (or kahit sa phone man lang) na they're not interested anymore or they've considered another job offer. they think that you're some kind of a monster recruiter na susugod sa bahay nila para sumbatan sila sa pag back-out nila.

[altair]

some companies are also guilty of that
you never hear from them if you get rejected

[Pin@tubo]

LOL, pinoy employer din kasi. then again, that's a different topic. "those companies..."

[Japorms09]

Originally posted by orangebleach
I've been in recruitment for 4 years now ( and 2 companies). Considering that I have moved to a better company, it seems that applicants gets worse every year. Ang daming di dumadating sa schedule nila, last minute request for re-sched, naglalaho parang bula...tapos dami ding 4-year course graduates na bumabagbagsak sa mga common intelligence test!as in tests na puede i-administer sa high school students!

what has happened?!! is it just me or what?!!

Sometimes naiisip ko gumawa ng database ng mga blacklisted applicants para reference ng mga katulad kong nasa recruitment. Bad no? or kaya mag ala "charmed-one" at i-curse lahat sila wag na mag ka work forever and ever! wicked!

sa palagay nyo ano dapat kong gawin?

Please do not generalize that there are many unqualified and unprofessional applicant or graduates for that matter.

I have applied to numerous companies as well, many of them also acts unethically. HR specialist must create a best standard practices to all of them to follow; this way we can professionalize the profession.

It might be true that many applicants fail in some IQ test, but you did not mention what kind of IQ test you are talking about. There are many IQ test available for HR professional, I cannot say whether they are hard or not since you did not mention it.

You can't also blame the applicants for acting unprofessional sometimes. Many companies demand so much but only want to pay the potential employees below average salary in the industry.

It's just time to overhaul the academic system in this country and adapt a more suitable courses for the industry.

[lupuS]

Originally posted by Japorms09
You can't also blame the applicants for acting unprofessional sometimes. Many companies demand so much but only want to pay the potential employees below average salary in the industry.


What do you mean by this? That if companies paid more, applicants would behave more, umm, professionally?

[ichi]

I have a friend that never showed up in scheduled interviews and does not even call to apologize. His reasons for doing this is for him to know how much the company needs him. If the company thats recruiting him calls again, then thats the only time he shows up.

Sorry to tell you HR personnel about this but I do think that applicants and those that have specialized skills have a say in whether they should accept or not accept. Same thing with HR, its up to you guys whether you'd want to accept the applicant or not.

[Super Vegetto]

sobra naman kung ibablacklist, parang inaalisan mo na sila ng karapatang magtrabaho pa. hindi tama iyon.

ganon rin naman ang mga kumpanya ah. sasabihin na tatawagan ka nila after a day or so tapos yun pala maghihintay ka sa wala.

e kung di mo kursunada yun mga aplikante eh di maghanap ka ng iba pa, ganon lang kasimple iyon. kung i-cucurse mo pa or ibablacklist dahil sa "stupidity" nila eh hindi na tama iyon.

[Dunedain]

One thing that's clear about this thread: Equal Opportunity in terms of getting a job in Pinas doesn't exist.

[shoelace]

d ba kaya nag-e-exam para ma-screen yung applicants? you can't expect all of them to pass, right? there will always be some who will fail.

yang mga hindi nagpaparamdam during their scheduled interview: as an HR rep, i think dapat habaan ang pasensiya regarding that. we can't expect people to behave/respond in a way we want them to be. we can't control people and hindi rin natin alam kung ano ang nangyari sa kanila kaya hindi dumating. meron akong napag-apply-an dati na pina-resked ko yung interview. yun nga lang hindi na-relay yung message sa right person. tinawagan ulit ako, and yun ...

and onga pala, may companies ngayon that contact their applicants by sending text messages. i don't think that's reliable. tapos magagalit ang HR kasi hindi sumipot.

sobra naman ata yang blacklist na yan... wag naman...

[shoelace]

Originally posted by altair
some companies are also guilty of that
you never hear from them if you get rejected

i agree. kung naiinis yung HR na hindi sinisipot ng applicants, ganun din yung feeling ng applicants kapag hindi sila ini inform ng updates sa application. sana lang tumawag or mag e-mail sila para sabihin na i'm sorry blah blah, you did not pass this and that, at least hindi na maghihintay yung applicant sa wala and makakapag apply na sa iba. hindi yung naka-hang yung ibang applications niya because this company told him that they will give him a call.

[spicyham]

It’s just common courtesy.
The other day I was meeting this successful finance guy (whose job pays for a car in London) and one hour before our meeting he called me up to move it another hour...As can be expected I felt really pissed but then he said, I hate to do this, but I need to take an important call.

You can always be gracious despite your position, and you can always say something in a better way.

IMO, the best and brightest applicants don’t need to see whether HR pursues them or what or play time-wasting mind games. Imagine if the time spent with power tripping and mind games was channeled into more productive pursuits like a trade certificate or further studies or networking, mas asenso ka pa diba. And the better HR people do their job as professionally also. Although given the volume of work, who has the time to be courteous...but that's the challenge right.

But then again, most people either don’t take their careers seriously, are unaware of GMRC (good manners and right conduct) or simply kulang sa professionalism.

[orangebleach]

Originally posted by woofers
What makes you think there isn't one already? I hear the HR of different call centers have such a blacklist.


But the mall industry does not have one...

[i]There's an HR-Philippines yahoo group.[/B]


I'm already a member. very good source of the latest news and info. they helped me a lot specially in our training and development program. could've not made it without their referrals.

[i]Keep your high standards and hire only those that are qualified for the positions they are applying for. That's your job, isn't it? [/B]

there's no other way to do it, di ba? It's just frustrating that they are hard to come by.

[introvert]

@ spicyham

I wholeheartedly agree. It is just plain and simple professionalism.

I myself get terribly irritated and pissed off if applicants do not show up on time or do not show up at all during a scheduled interview without informing recruiting. But my counterpart in recruiting has more patience than me: "We need people so have patience."

Personally, it really boils down to professionalism. If one is not interested, then why agree to have an interview in the first place?

I even had this notion that perhaps life isn't too bad at all because it seems that people still have the luxury to reject an opportunity.

I sort of begun to grow my patience. But still, I have my limits. 2 no-show and the applicant is out.



Originally posted by spicyham
It’s just common courtesy.
The other day I was meeting this successful finance guy (whose job pays for a car in London) and one hour before our meeting he called me up to move it another hour...As can be expected I felt really pissed but then he said, I hate to do this, but I need to take an important call.

You can always be gracious despite your position, and you can always say something in a better way.

IMO, the best and brightest applicants don’t need to see whether HR pursues them or what or play time-wasting mind games. Imagine if the time spent with power tripping and mind games was channeled into more productive pursuits like a trade certificate or further studies or networking, mas asenso ka pa diba. And the better HR people do their job as professionally also. Although given the volume of work, who has the time to be courteous...but that's the challenge right.

But then again, most people either don’t take their careers seriously, are unaware of GMRC (good manners and right conduct) or simply kulang sa professionalism.