SAP Training

[Jay-zZz]

Has anyone heard of this course called SAP?
Its a crash course being offered here and being conducted by foreigners. SAP is a super hi tech program used by big corporations and is soon to be used here in the Phil. Businesses such as the Ayala, Lopez and SGV are now upgrading to an SAP ystem.

Can anyone shed light on this course.

[nix]

SAP is a very expensive course, offered by the SAP company to the employees of companies that buy SAP Products. Basically, the people who undergo the SAP program return to their companies after the training course and work on making systems that make their respective divisions run more efficiently. Often, all of the SAP trainees work together under an SAP department and fuse together all of their projects to create synergies between all of their departments.

Employees who are sent to train under SAP are often given a two year contract by their mother companies, as the SAP training costs around 300,000 pesos or more. But from what I hear, people who have undergone SAP training find that their stock has increased because SAP consultants are heavily sought after by both foreign and local companies.

[JUNXB102]

Yeah, It sure is an expensive training course. SAP is a German based software company that offers packaged system applications for every aspect of business. SAP is divided into many modules depending on what your company needs. A few examples are Human Resources, Plant Maintenance, Asset Management etc. It also has it's SAP-Retail, SAP IS-OIL (for the oil industry) and many others. Among the local companies already using the SAP system are Shell, Caltex, Procter and Gamble, San Miguel, Petron Corporation and Smart (I think they're in the design stage already).

To learn more about SAP is a continuing process, coz like I said, it is comprised of many different modules, and that does not include the programming language for SAP w/c is called ABAP programming. If you can master this language, then you're worth about $7000 - $10000 dollar abroad.

[wAgKaNgMaKuLiT]

forgive my ignorance, but what is SAP anyway? what does it mean? im gonna take up my entrance exams in diff universities/colleges this june, so im sort of curious about those stuffs lately.

:)

[Jay-zZz]

What does SAP stand for nga ba?
Where can I study for this program?
I heard your worth 50,000 to 100,000 a month locally.

[JUNXB102]

It's meaning in German, “Systemanalyse and Programmentwicklung.” Since then, that company has become SAP (Systems, Applications and Products in Data Processing).

Jay-zzz: I tell you, it's very expensive, and it's courses has prerequisites. SAP Philippines is the only one authorized to conduct the training.

[wAgKaNgMaKuLiT]

how expensive?

[JUNXB102]

For a five day course (any module), the prices range from P7000 - P10000 a day....

That expensive!!!!

[Jay-zZz]

I think its worth it considering the fact that local companies are willing to pay 50 to 100,000 a month for your skills. :D

Does anyone here know someone who has taken this course already? I'd like to ask about the salary and other stuff.

[nix]

I know that some of the employees from my previous company have already taken SAP and are currently working on their respective modules to upgrade the company's systems. I am not in touch with them anymore so I have no idea what they are going through.

That company by the way is Ramcar.

[wAgKaNgMaKuLiT]

that expensive? but i think its worth it. dont u think?

[nix]

It's a very big decision early on in your career so make sure that you know what SAP is before getting into it. With the amount of money you would have to put into it to be a part of the course, you better make sure that it's what you want to do in the next five years or so.

[ruff]

we had a talk in class once by an SAP consultant and yes it is a lot of money! At the time he was giving the talk, he was working with the inventory of Penshoppe, i think. He said that SAP Philippines has about 20 people ... i'm not so sure but it's really a low hierarchy company and they earn a lot! He mentioned that La Salle is offering the program ...

[Mil]

whoah! tone down with your expectations on SAP. I'm not an IT guy but I'm working with a company that uses SAP. Basically, progressive companies have linked the entire length and breadth of their supply chain + the accounting side thru one system. This thing even facilitates comprehensive reporting of anything happening in the company in real time. translates to -->; you can check out profitability of departments, projects, customers or inventory levels (real time), etc. etc. There are other similar systems running in other companies like BPCS which is used by Nestle and Unilever.

Now on the salary part, usually these companies hire companies like Pricewaterhouse or other consultancy firms to help run this. These "consultants" try to bridge the gap from the complex IT side to what management will need. These "consultants" don't make P50,000. SAP is pretty expensive so companies that use this are often very big and hire comparatively large companies to manage their systems. I haven't heard of small coporations that hire lone consultants to setup and maintain their SAP. Well not locally at least.

[emilie]

Not to be negative here but I've heard that companies who have gotten SAP are not satisfied with what they offer, espcially since SAP is very expensive.

A couple of reasons for their dissatisfaction: SAP software still has bugs and some SAP consultants are not very good. I have some concrete examples if anyone wants to know...

My advice to those who want to take SAP -- don't limit yourself to this. Try to expand your knowledge in I.T. Technology is very fast-paced and you have to keep up with what is most useful for your clients. Be up-to-date. Have a thirst for learning on your own.

[ar!ene]

hi guys, may alam ba kyong place na nag-ooffer ng SAP trainings/seminars?

[baliwako1218]

try RAMCAR Group of Companies ( Motolite, KFC, Mr Donut......) Inc......
they have a SAP Consultancy TRainee position....any course *** reqt...the job opening was about 4 mos ago, but try calling to find out if it is still open....

[natalie_sod]

for trainings talaga, try mo sa SAP philippines. that's in citibank building in makati.

if naghahanap ka ng job that will train you, balitaan mo ko pag nakanahap ka na. :glee:

[ar!ene]

nag-inquire ako sa SAP Phils, it's pricey, for the course on financials, the fee is P14K-20K per DAY (yes, per day)..that's why I'm looking for other alternative..

[Kikkomann]

Tama, RAMCAR dati nagooffer ng ganung position (nagapply ako pero hindi man lang sila professional enough para sabihin kung pasa ka or hindi).

[Krakista]

Four companies that recently bought SAP licenses: Splash Corporation
South Star Drug
General Santos Doctors' Hospital
San Andres Fishing Inc.

[baliwako1218]

Tama, RAMCAR dati nagooffer ng ganung position (nagapply ako pero hindi man lang sila professional enough para sabihin kung pasa ka or hindi).

You know what....tama ka dun.....they send you an email to come for 1st interview, then di naman pala.....they just let you take the tests....I really dont believe sa recruitment process nila dun, parang wala lang.....

[ar!ene]

guys, got this email from a friend.. share ko lang..galing sa SAP Phils..

WTSI Academy has actually been appointed by SAP as its education partner in the Philippines. In line with said partnership, we are regularly conducting the SAP Solution Academy, which is recognized as the world's most comprehensive training academy in the business solutions industry. Each 25-day track at the Academy is a condensed solution-oriented consultant education program that prepares a consultant for certification and for a truly rewarding career in SAP consulting for his/her chosen track.

WTSI (or Worldwide Technology Systems Inc.) is the IT services company of RAMCAR Inc., the leading manufacturer and distributor of automotive batteries carrying the Motolite and Oriental brands. RAMCAR is also the Philippine franchise holder of Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC) and Mister Donut.

From May 23 to June 24, we will be running classes on five tracks, namely: Managerial and Financial Accounting, SCM Manufacturing, SCM Procurement SCM Order Fulfillment and Application Development.


TFIN10, 12 & 14
Managerial and Financial Accounting Certification Program P 300,000 including Certification Exam, plus 10% VAT

TSCM20, 32, 34
Supply Chain Management – Manufacturing Certification Program P 350,000 including Certification Exam, plus 10% VAT

TSCM50, 52 & 54
Supply Chain Management – Procurement Certification Program
P 300,000 including Certification Exam, plus 10% VAT

TSCM60, 62 & 64
Supply Chain Management - Order Fulfillment Certification Program
P 300,000 including Certification Exam, plus 10% VAT

TAW10 & 12
Application Development (ABAP) Certification Program
P 350,000 including Certification Exam plus 10% VAT

[Krakista]

Enterprise software is software that gets sold to a so-called enterprise. If you know English well, you might think an “enterprise” is something brave, noble, and dangerous, like starting a small business, but in this case, “enterprise” is used to mean the opposite: it means a large, risk-averse company, whose executives use the term to flatter themselves by pretending that they’re engaged in something brave, noble, and dangerous. Now, these “enterprises” use a lot of software, but most of the software they use doesn’t get sold to the “enterprise” itself; it gets sold to one of the employees of the “enterprise”, who has the authority to spend $400 or whatever to get the software they personally use to do their job, if it’s not free. That’s not “enterprise” software, because it’s sold to an individual, not a so-called enterprise.

Software that has to be sold to an “enterprise”, where some manager must be persuaded to use his purchasing authority to buy the software, is different in a variety of ways from other software. None of these ways are strictly technical.

The first difference is that “enterprise software” costs more. Software that doesn’t cost a lot generally doesn’t need managerial buy-in to be bought (although other factors may interfere; for example, everyone has to use the same bug-tracking system for it to work); software that needs managerial buy-in generally needs expensive salespeople to persuade managers to buy their software; and managers everywhere have a well-known perverse incentive to expand their budgets.

The second difference is that “enterprise software” doesn’t necessarily work, although it can usually be made to work with sufficient effort. If you’re spending $50 000 on a piece of software, it seems more reasonable to spend $1000 or $10 000 to customize it to your needs before you can actually use it. In extreme cases, such as ClearCase and Oracle, a team of expensive, specialized full-time employees must be dedicated to keeping the software operational.

The nontechnical nature of many managers, in addition to the perverse incentives in many managerial structures, often mean that enterprise software does not have to work at all, no matter how much effort is applied to make it work, in order to sell well.

The third difference is that enterprise software is surrounded by consultants who will sell you the service of making it work, as explained above. In some cases, these ecosystems of consultants are competent and highly skilled. In other cases, such as the case of Java, many of them are spectacularly incompetent, vociferous in their ignorance, and prone to attack competing systems. This proceeds directly from the sales process for “enterprise software,” in which highly-paid persuaders gull technically incompetent managers into adopting the software. If the managers were technically incompetent in selecting the software in the first place, they will also not be able to distinguish between competent consultants and incompetent consultants, so incompetent consultants will flourish along with the competent ones — who will eventually get sick of it and go elsewhere.

I didn’t really understand this until KnowNow, the startup I worked at, got turned into an enterprise software company by its VCs and management; although I had previously had the opportunity to observe most of the pieces of the puzzle, I clung to the idea that “enterprise software” was actually technically better in some way from the software I was used to using. It turns out that the differences are entirely social, not technical, and one of the major differences is that “enterprise software” is under much less pressure to have any technical merit. Just to give you an insider view of things. :)

[ar!ene]

Krakista, thanks!

[bata_sa_maynila]

hey! my friend who's now working (actually training) in accenture is studying SAP... haha! nagiging corny na siya sa sobrang hilo sa kakaaral ng SAP :) o well, not sure if this helps :)

[bata_sa_maynila]

btw, i just heard from a friend that Headstrong also facilitates seminars for SAP for its trainees... :)) not sure though if til when the seminar goes. i heard that the next thing in their agenda is peoplesoft so there....

another good thing is, they are also being offered a small allowance while training!!! whats more (yes, swerte talaga niya... :) ) is that there's no bond!!! :) nways, gudluck!

[rum]

Guys,

I wanna know where I can take a course in SAP (general/beginners).

Please help me if you know any schools or alike.


Thanks!

[blue_oranges]

I think Globe Telecom, Smart Telecom and San Miguel Corp. also have SAP trainings.

With Accenture, I think it depends on what project they assign you. You're lucky if you get to study SAP. Otherwise, you end up learning a different language.

I did try to apply in RAMCAR last year, but a friend discouraged me as she said their bond was 2M php for 2 years. That was for a SAP trainee.

[froshie1]

hi guys, may alam ba kyong place na nag-ooffer ng SAP trainings/seminars?

Accenture apply ka. Wife ko nagtetrain ng mga new hires. :D

[Altariel]

froshie - hmm pano pumasok sa SAP ng accenture? how do i apply for the trainee position? :) thanks!

[froshie1]

froshie - hmm pano pumasok sa SAP ng accenture? how do i apply for the trainee position? :) thanks!

Pass mo resume mo sa HR nila. Kung no-experience at all, galingan mo lang sa test at series of interviewssss and during your interview banggitin mo na gusto mong mapasama sa ERP team na ang hinahandle ay SAP.

Kung experienced hire ka naman at gusto mong matuto pa ng SAP, pass mo din resume mo at ipasa mo interviewsssss nila. Wala ng test test.

[Macky_EX]

froshie - hmm pano pumasok sa SAP ng accenture? how do i apply for the trainee position? :) thanks!

Sayang at mukhang wala ka pa gaanong experience. Kung maganda experience mo, pasa mo lang resume mo sa HR nila at sila na ang hahabol sa yo. Mahigpit lang yata sila pag sa mga 5 years or below ang experience.... pag nasa 9 years and above na experience mo, hahabulin ka nila.

[Altariel]

yeah, fresh grad pa ako.. d naman ako interested sa programming (although course ko yun) kaya d ako nag apply sa accenture.. :) sabi kasi saken yung test may scripting.. :)

[Kate_Jones]

Pass mo resume mo sa HR nila. Kung no-experience at all, galingan mo lang sa test at series of interviewssss and during your interview banggitin mo na gusto mong mapasama sa ERP team na ang hinahandle ay SAP.

Kung experienced hire ka naman at gusto mong matuto pa ng SAP, pass mo din resume mo at ipasa mo interviewsssss nila. Wala ng test test.


i know a friend naman who works at petron.. is the salary at accenture competitive po?

[Macky_EX]

i know a friend naman who works at petron.. is the salary at accenture competitive po?

Base dun sa offer nila, competitive na yung monetary benefits nya sa local market pero mababa pa den compared sa mga US or Jap-owned companies na naka-base sa Pinas. Considering na US company ang Accenture, one would expect na ka-level nya yung ibang US companies in terms of monetary benefits. OK daw fringe benefits pero I'm not interested sa mga leaves at saka covered na ako at mga anak ko ng health benefits ng wife ko. Opinion ko lang po.

Kung newly grad ka siguro mas malaki ang starting sa Accenture kesa karamihan.

[froshie1]

@Macky
Malabo iexpect na ka-level ng Manila Delivery Centre ang sahod ng US Delivery Centre kasi that would break the purpose of outsourcing IT jobs here in Manila.

Tungkol sa sahod mas mataas sya compared sa mga Philippine companies and somehow (somehow ha) pumapangalawa or pumapangatlo sa mga top US based companies dito sa Pinas.

Kung gusto mong mag-focus talaga sa career mo sa IT as an employee or you want to build your own empire soon Accenture is a good place to work mapa fresh grad ka or old grad ka na gustong ibuild ang IT skills mo lalo na sa development and also people skills. Kung ikaw iyong tipong IT peep na gustong matuto ng standards sa pag-code, matuto ng mga kung anu-anong standards sa west sa pagdedevelop ng apps (coding standards, change control standards, anti-fraud standard, support etc..) maganda itong company para ma-expose ka sa mga ganun na trabaho.

@Kate Jones
Kung ako icocompare ko ang Petron sa Accenture in terms of salary hindi ko masasagot dahil wala po akong idea kung magkano salary sa Petron. Pero pag ang usapan ay long term benefits na tungkol sa skills na malalaman ng isang empleyado mas ok ang Accenture para sa akin. Ang Petron fuel company sya, pag nandun ka client mo iisa lang. Sa Accenture, marami kang clients and most of them nasa Top 500 Fortune Companies.

[Macky_EX]

@Macky
Malabo iexpect na ka-level ng Manila Delivery Centre ang sahod ng US Delivery Centre kasi that would break the purpose of outsourcing IT jobs here in Manila.


I've worked and helped 2 American companies (http://www.occinc.net/ and the other momentarilly slipped my mind) sa start up ng BPO nila dito sa Pinas.... walang sinabi sahod ng Accenture.

The wife is currently helping one HongKong-based company (AEON) para mag-start up din ng BPO dito sa Pinas. Again, walang sinabi monetary benefits ng Accenture.

Pero tama ka and I have already mentioned this, compared sa local IT market competitive na ang sahod ng Accenture kung less than 5 years experience ka!

[Krakista]

The SAP Philippines Summit 2005
EDSA Shangrila, Mandaluyong City
26-27 July 2005

[TwiztedMynd]

Hi guys! I am currently working with an MNC and handles midrange systems. I'm planning to shift to SAP and maybe apply outside the country. I gather that there are a number of SAP "paths" out there.

As a hardware/OS person, what curriculum of SAP would you recommend? If so, is there a training center here in the Philippines offering this training?

Thanks!

[ichi]

Enrolling on your own?

Good luck!

[natalie_sod]

if you want to do programming, try enrolling in an ABAP course. it'll cost you an arm and a leg though, from what i heard. super mahal ng training sa SAP philippines.

[natalie_sod]

kung hardware/OS ka pala...siguro mas suited sa yo yung Basis training.

[pauster007]

cost of the training? totoo bang hundred thousand pesos plus ang cost?

[ichi]

pauster....yup :)

[Krakista]

PhP 300,000++ actually.

[froshie1]

Basis ang kunin mo. Apply ka sa Accenture, may training na at sinuswelduhan ka pa.

[pauster007]

PhP 300,000++ actually.
D A M N! ang mahal pala! makakabili ka na ng 2nd hand na kotse sa pera na yan.

[18th_Angel]

me any other companies pa ba offering SAP training besides Accenture? :P

[natalie_sod]

me any other companies pa ba offering SAP training besides Accenture? :P

SMITS (San Miguel IT)

[Krakista]

Free SAP Training and Tutorials (http://www.intelligentedu.com/newly_researched_free_training/SAP.html)

[sneaker23]

D A M N! ang mahal pala! makakabili ka na ng 2nd hand na kotse sa pera na yan.

its true, but have u ever thought of the results of your investment in SAP..baka ndi lang mga P5M na kotse at ilang bahay sa manila mabibili mo, e baka sa US meron kana ring bahay na makukuha dun...think of whats ahead...and u must know its real b4 investing...i can say it is...SAP abroad is more than nurses and engineers... *okay*


my two cents.

sige, magsisimula muna ako sa JAVA at Oracle

[mirage23]

sneaker23 is correct! HR SAP pa lang yan, *** more pa sa ibang SAP modules. kaso panis yang java at oracle mo sneak!

here's ang example from a pex thread:

Our client based in Singapore, Trillium Pte. Ltd., is looking for I.T. Professionals to come aboard with them on a permanent employment basis. They need SAP HR Consultant for their project in Thailand.

Position Title: SAP HR (Payroll) CONSULTANT

Qualifications:
Minimum 3 three years in SAP HR
Payroll expert in the SAP HR component

Salary Range:
SGD 6,000 to 7,000 = PHP 200,930 - 234,419

Destination: Thailand
Contract Duration: Permanent

[pauster007]

its true, but have u ever thought of the results of your investment in SAP..baka ndi lang mga P5M na kotse at ilang bahay sa manila mabibili mo, e baka sa US meron kana ring bahay na makukuha dun...think of whats ahead...and u must know its real b4 investing...i can say it is...SAP abroad is more than nurses and engineers... *okay*


my two cents.

sige, magsisimula muna ako sa JAVA at Oracle

Syempre kung mag invest ka ng hundred thousand of pesos, you'll make sure na babalik yan sa iyo.

[alwin]

Anong company ang nagbibigay ng training sa SAP? *** after training deretso work na sa kanilang company.

[seifadiaz]

Learn to search the forums. May nag-post na ng similar thread like this one here with answers.

[be_nstyl]

Hi! I am helping a friend gather feedback about this program/ course. Has anyone attented this training.

Has it helped you career in any way?


Thanks:)

[akira_jc]

SAP is an application or system that is now being use by many multinational corporations such as Nestle... P&G... and the likes.

You can bring home BIG bucks when you know how to do SAP programs. I suggest your friend may want to research and learn 1st programs like RTCIS, ORACLE, ABAP and UNIX.

To be a certified SAP Specialist or SAP Consultant, you need to get certification from SAP Philippines and after that your career will sell like hotcakes. and certification program will cost you PHP 250,000- 300,000, that includes training and some manuals.

SAP specialist is currently in demand in HK, New Zealand, Singapore and etc. Here in Philippines, if you are part of a good SAP conultants firm, most multinational companies are willing to pay as high as $700/hour. Nestle Phils pays $500/hour for a SAP consultant with good credentials. Bale hati na yung consultant firm tyka yung SAP consultant.

If you wanna travel around the world for free to implement such programs and projects and you graduated from ADMU, DLSU, FEU, UP and UA&P with job experience or with Freshgrad but with excellent scholastic records, you can pursue careers with HP Hong Kong LTd that holds office in SMPC Building, they are hiring right now. Madami kasing projects na kelangan i- implement around the Globe. If you have experience in such fields and wana improve more go with ACCENTURE, mababa *** salary pero mganda exposure after that pede ka na lipat ng ibang mas high paying job, btyw, they have 2 yr bond.:bop: :bop:

[Kolmogorov]

^pano yung HP sa RSC Makati? May mga global opportunities pa rin kaya for their SAP specialists?

[Leo_Wyatt]

SAP Business One caters to small and medium-sized businesses. While SAP R/3 caters to big enterprises. Both SAP Business One (or SAP B1 for short) and R/3 differ in various aspects.

To know more about SAP B1 training you may contact Fasttrack Solutions (SAP B1's sole training partner).

Makati City – Philippines
10-D 10/F The Valero Tower
122 Valero St. Salcedo Vill.
Makati City 1277

Telephone: +632-840-3332/840-4352
Fax: +632-892-8095
sales@fasttrack-solution.com

http://fasttrackph.com/education_learning_center.php

If you are interested in SAP R/3, you may contact Kaisa Consulting.

[Shemale_Lover]

^^^^

can a person who has no basic knowledge about SAP and programming (like me)

enroll?

i feel that a career change is for me and SAP is the path to take.

any advice?

[sharingan]

http://ittc.up.edu.ph/sapbootcamp.html

more comprehensive course outline and cheaper than SAPB1's

[el_scorcho]

How do yu aplly in HP Hong Kong Ltd? Fresh grad here. Do they provide training?


SAP is an application or system that is now being use by many multinational corporations such as Nestle... P&G... and the likes.

You can bring home BIG bucks when you know how to do SAP programs. I suggest your friend may want to research and learn 1st programs like RTCIS, ORACLE, ABAP and UNIX.

To be a certified SAP Specialist or SAP Consultant, you need to get certification from SAP Philippines and after that your career will sell like hotcakes. and certification program will cost you PHP 250,000- 300,000, that includes training and some manuals.

SAP specialist is currently in demand in HK, New Zealand, Singapore and etc. Here in Philippines, if you are part of a good SAP conultants firm, most multinational companies are willing to pay as high as $700/hour. Nestle Phils pays $500/hour for a SAP consultant with good credentials. Bale hati na yung consultant firm tyka yung SAP consultant.

If you wanna travel around the world for free to implement such programs and projects and you graduated from ADMU, DLSU, FEU, UP and UA&P with job experience or with Freshgrad but with excellent scholastic records, you can pursue careers with HP Hong Kong LTd that holds office in SMPC Building, they are hiring right now. Madami kasing projects na kelangan i- implement around the Globe. If you have experience in such fields and wana improve more go with ACCENTURE, mababa *** salary pero mganda exposure after that pede ka na lipat ng ibang mas high paying job, btyw, they have 2 yr bond.:bop: :bop:

[Leo_Wyatt]

^^^^

can a person who has no basic knowledge about SAP and programming (like me)

enroll?

i feel that a career change is for me and SAP is the path to take.

any advice?

Yes you can! *okay* FastTrack offers Free SAP B1 Career Orientation for both I.T and Non-IT professionals ( e.g. Business grads, or career-shifters like you). Basically, they will just give you brief overview of what SAP B1 is and the expectations for you to become a Certified SAP B1 Consultant.

Disclaimer: I am NEITHER from FastTrack NOR Kaisa Consulting. I have attended their career orientation seminar. However, FastTrack (for SAP B1) got my full attention. SO, I am just sharing it with you lang. *pexadik*

You can inquire at these training centers so you would know their schedule of their next career orientation.

[IBMDude]

Do you need to be good in programming in order to excel in SAP?

[Leo_Wyatt]

^^ It will be plus factor for the SAP trainee but not really a pre-requisite. SAP Consultants do a little or or almost no programming. However, good analytical thinking and problem solving skills are still MUST HAVES. Normally, SAP Consultants just do the analysis of the business needs, SAP installation, configuration, implementation based on the needs of their client, and testing.

Should the clients wish customized features aside from what SAP can give, dito na papasok ang SAP programmers - which requires separate training and certification.

[akira_jc]

^pano yung HP sa RSC Makati? May mga global opportunities pa rin kaya for their SAP specialists?


If you will be assign as an ITO SPecialist 1 or Technical SUpport Specialist, from your start date 99% Out-of-the-country ka na for a project. Pag pasok m kasi ng HP, regular na kagad position mo, *** ng probi probi. Tapos mga 3 days *** bootcamp or training, sabak ka na agad sa projects.

Like what I've said, if your a fresh grad from a reputable school, go try your luck. Anyway, intensive training and similar job experience of 3yrs is ok as an in lieu for a degree. Hindi sya tulad ng call center na one day process, kasi mga iinterview syo mga 4 na Managers and that would be different dates or days kasi since mga Manager yun, laging may meeting and other commitments. And the final result depends if all of them agree na they should hire you... they will hire you...:bashful:


Starting usually is 20K up and *** p mga benefits dun and other freebies. Tyka pag ngwork ka sa HP, *** ka na ring bumalik ng college dahil puro gimik... travel... parties and etc. :lol: Same time, feeling mo MTV VJ or music artist ka dhil mahilig mgshoot ng videos tpos dub nyo mga famous songs and etc...:rotflmao:

*okay* Yung HP sa Robinson Summit, nandun yung mga Manager na iinterview sa inyo pag plano nyo mag explore ng career with HP. Tapos yung bagong building kasi di na nga kasya mga employee sa RSC inilagay sa SMPC. Kaya yujng iba nga imbes the 2 day *** work from home nagiging 2 days na dhil sa dami ng mga new hires.:naughty:

[bongster14]

Hello everyone!! does anyone here took the SAP BASIS (Netweaver - Web AS) w/ Oracle Technology Consultant Certification Exam?

Kindly share your experience, highlights of the exam, sample questions, etc..

Thanks

[boi_bibo]

hello :)

do you know any school who offers SAP courses? kasi pumunta ako sa sap.com pero ang mahal 36k for 2 days basic pa lang yun huhuhu

meron ba kyong alam? thanks

[Krakista]

It's really a SAP or Sayang Ang Pera course if you don't cut it.

[chiena19]

try KAISA consulting and Fast Track, they offer SAP Courses. Pero, if i were you look for companies that use SAP para mas maexpose ka.

[fedor]

Gamitin mo google at magtiayaga kang maghanap ng SAP manuals. Dami free materials dyan. you dont need to enrol just to learn SAP(unless you want to get certified). At Syempre pag galing sa internet libre!!! pirated nga lang. Imagine mo magbabayad ka ng 36K to enroll compared to, let's say, 300 pesos of googling. gazzillion ang difference bro. Pwede ka nga bumili ng N95 sa na-save mong pera.

FYI.. the materials given by these sap school are now free on net. by boss was a student of a SAP school and they were given SAP materials. When i compared her materials to the ones i downloaded from the net, viola!! they're all the same. Mas updated pa nga yung sa akin e.

be smart, save money, - be a pirate!!!

[sneaker23]

walang sablay ang advice niya.

now the Q is will they hire you after reading all these SAP stuffs you've downloaded? :D

Gamitin mo google at magtiayaga kang maghanap ng SAP manuals. Dami free materials dyan. you dont need to enrol just to learn SAP(unless you want to get certified). At Syempre pag galing sa internet libre!!! pirated nga lang. Imagine mo magbabayad ka ng 36K to enroll compared to, let's say, 300 pesos of googling. gazzillion ang difference bro. Pwede ka nga bumili ng N95 sa na-save mong pera.

FYI.. the materials given by these sap school are now free on net. by boss was a student of a SAP school and they were given SAP materials. When i compared her materials to the ones i downloaded from the net, viola!! they're all the same. Mas updated pa nga yung sa akin e.

be smart, save money, - be a pirate!!!

[sneaker23]

walang sablay ang advice niya.

now the Q is will they hire you after reading all these SAP stuffs you've downloaded? :D

Gamitin mo google at magtiayaga kang maghanap ng SAP manuals. Dami free materials dyan. you dont need to enrol just to learn SAP(unless you want to get certified). At Syempre pag galing sa internet libre!!! pirated nga lang. Imagine mo magbabayad ka ng 36K to enroll compared to, let's say, 300 pesos of googling. gazzillion ang difference bro. Pwede ka nga bumili ng N95 sa na-save mong pera.

FYI.. the materials given by these sap school are now free on net. by boss was a student of a SAP school and they were given SAP materials. When i compared her materials to the ones i downloaded from the net, viola!! they're all the same. Mas updated pa nga yung sa akin e.

be smart, save money, - be a pirate!!!

[seifadiaz]

Yep. Iba pa rin ang may certificate/training experience kesa sa self-study. Mahirap patunayan na may natutunan ka nga sa self-study sessions mo during interview.

[Kolmogorov]

The best way to learn SAP is to apply for an entry level SAP position. You'll get the training, the experience and at least may sweldo ka pa. SAP training is really expensive and the training materials (the official ones) are not designed for self-learning. Saka siyempre kailangan may SAP ka talaga na naka install. Di naman yan katulad ng Java na libre at pwede i-self study. Just like any other IT skills, kailangan talaga sya i-hands on training

[puckhead]

Hey guys, please post any info about sap training here in the philippines. San ba maganda mag training and how much would it cost?

[Krakista]

SAP Functional Program
PP - SCM Planning and Manufacturing - P 428,000.00
SCM - Order Fulfillment - P 318,000.00
FI - Financial Accounting - P 293,000.00
MM - SCM Procurement - P 318,000.00
HR - Human Resources - P 333,000.00
CI - Managerial Accounting - P 293,000.00

SAP Technical Program
BW - Business Intelligence - P 423,000.00
BASIS - WEB AS Implementation and Operation - P 500,000.00
ABAP - Advanced Business Application Programming - P 350,000.00

Courses require a good grasp of Accounting, Finance, and Industrial Engineering.

[XPX]

SAP Functional Program
PP - SCM Planning and Manufacturing - P 428,000.00
SCM - Order Fulfillment - P 318,000.00
FI - Financial Accounting - P 293,000.00
MM - SCM Procurement - P 318,000.00
HR - Human Resources - P 333,000.00
CI - Managerial Accounting - P 293,000.00

SAP Technical Program
BW - Business Intelligence - P 423,000.00
BASIS - WEB AS Implementation and Operation - P 500,000.00
ABAP - Advanced Business Application Programming - P 350,000.00

Courses require a good grasp of Accounting, Finance, and Industrial Engineering.

pretty expensive pero worth it naman dahil malaki ang opportunity na mabibigay sayo lalo na sa abroad.

May nakita ako sa bandang makati eh nakalimutan ko yung name. nag-oofer sila ng SAP training. malapit yun sa LKG tower, banda Ayala Avenue. Hope this helps.

[SirZap]

May nakita ako sa bandang makati eh nakalimutan ko yung name. nag-oofer sila ng SAP training. malapit yun sa LKG tower, banda Ayala Avenue. Hope this helps.

KAISA consulting

[puckhead]

Tnx for all the input guys..meron din bang company who offers training for entry level?

[R.F.]

Tnx for all the input guys..meron din bang company who offers training for entry level?

HP does... some bundles require knowledge in SAP, especially those who work on projects.

[Kolmogorov]

Sa quezon City po yung Kaisa.


Masyado mahal yung training. Better apply for an entry level SAP position and let the company train you or pay for your training (with bond of course)

Malaki pa nga ba ang demand for SAP abroad or sa Asia lang? Eh ina-outsource na nga yung SAP jobs di ba?

[rAiNeDaNcE]

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but I figured it would be better rather than creating the same topic.

I was just wondering, is it worth it to shell out around 400k for the SAP education? Will you really be able to grasp the concepts and be ready for certification and actual practice after such a short time?

I have had some 5day training courses kasi from Oracle and DB wizards, and from those rushed courses, I can say that they're really not that effective at all... ~_~; OK lang if around 30k lang yung training.. but SAP training is no joke.

[manwolf]

I think The Software Factory is looking for SAP Trainees. Search mo nalang sa JobsDB o sa JobStreet.

[mac_black]

Nkaka lula ang presyo ng training... =)

[jhing1998]

Hello baka *** interesed kyo sa Phoenix One ito (former NIIT)

SAP Business One Basic Course
Quickstart Program
Course Description: FTB1100

The course is intended for accountants, business professionals, I.T. practitioners, and non-experienced MBA candidates and Graduates who want to have an overview of SAP Business One, its functionality, and value-added features on ERP and MEP for small to midsized business. Serving as a foundation for more in-depth learning, this shall be the participant’s solid base towards SAP certification. It is a pre-requisite for the SAP Business One Advance Course.

It is a 5-day class designed for the student-trainee to have a feel of the capabilities of the SAP Business One Software. Challenging exercises shall be interspersed with interesting lectures in order to stimulate scenarios that usually occur during database building, installation and configuration. Each student-trainee shall be provided with a PC to efficiently facilitate the teaching and learning process.

Course Objectives:

At the end of this course the student should be able to:

• Understand the basic concepts and methods of implementing SAP Business One for the following modules: Financials, Master data, Purchasing, AP, Inventory, Sales, AR, Budgeting, Banking, Period-end closing, Document Handling and Implementation and Configuration.
• Install and configure a basic Business One system for a case company.
• Understand basic helpdesk support processes in maintaining key Business One modules.

Course Content

• Overview
• Fundamentals on SAP Business One
• Master data
• Document Handling
• Purchasing and AP
• Sales and AR
• Inventory
• Cross Functionalities
• Financials
• Banking
• Period-end closing
• Exercises



Who Should Attend :

• Accountants, System Analysts, IT Professionals, SAP Practitioners.
• MBA Candidates and/or Graduates
• Entrepreneurs

Prerequisites:

• Basic business knowledge
• Working knowledge of MS Office and Windows applications
• Understanding of basic accounting principles

Skill: Introductory

Format:

80% Lecture
20% Exercises

Type:

Classroom

Duration:

20 hours

Schedule:

Mondays – 6-10PM or
Wednesdays 6-10PM


Amount

P10,920.00

[fedor]

SAP Functional Program
PP - SCM Planning and Manufacturing - P 428,000.00
SCM - Order Fulfillment - P 318,000.00
FI - Financial Accounting - P 293,000.00
MM - SCM Procurement - P 318,000.00
HR - Human Resources - P 333,000.00
CI - Managerial Accounting - P 293,000.00

SAP Technical Program
BW - Business Intelligence - P 423,000.00
BASIS - WEB AS Implementation and Operation - P 500,000.00
ABAP - Advanced Business Application Programming - P 350,000.00

Courses require a good grasp of Accounting, Finance, and Industrial Engineering.


WTF!! Ang mahal!!

use google...searc.h search search for good websites..madaming SAP sites dito sa NET offering FREE materials. hay naku! why pay that much if you can get it for free. TYAGAin mo lang..

[jaz_rina]

jhing1998, any contact number for the SAP program? i'm interested in taking the course but not until Nov. .. how long is the program? thanks

[aeneas]

the program is usually 5 weeks.

after the 5-week program, you will then take the certification exam.

normally, the coverage of the 5-week program is the same scope of the exam as well; so its actually more on training you to pass the certification exam.

if you were to ask me, the program is not worth it. yes, you may be a SAP certified after that program and it can guarantee you bigger paycheck and higher asking price if you apply; but, once you are already in the workforce, experience is still your best bet.

i've been in the SAP industry for three years already. have participated in one full-cycle implementation and currently in production support for what we have implemented. i was able to work with someone who tool the SAP training from SAP Academy in Thailand; she's now SAP certified but I must say that she is outshined by those who are not SAP certified but have been working with SAP for at least a year.

my suggestion is that you look for companies that would hire you as entry level and will give you SAP training and then build your skills along the way. it is worth it than shelling out 400K for a program that would train you to pass the certification exam.

[piningercia]

:rotflmao: I totally agree. ang mga training kasi halos theory lang at
kalimitan ang instructor wala actual experience. :bop:

[jaz_rina]

actually guys i just need to have a grasp on the system... internal auditor kasi ako and most of the companies require knowledge of the system...

aeneas, you think the program will give me some overview of the system?

[sap_titan]

try this website (http://www.thespot4sap.com).
but nothing beats the experience you gain before getting a certification.

[jhing1998]

eto nung phone number SAP October class 830-3000 or 689-1189.

eto naman po nung for Advance.

SAP Business One Advance
F1 Advance Program
Course Description: FTB1200

This hands-on course is for experienced SAP Business One practitioners, SAP Business One Basic Course Graduates, and Attendees of the SAP Business One Basic Course. It is also applicable to Employees of SAP’s SMB-Partners who are responsible for quality selling and successful sales presentations of SAP Business One.

This course runs for 10 days on a 3.5 hour per day schedule wherein lectures are interspersed with exercises. There is also a case study for the students to have more in-depth knowledge of SAP Business One.

Course Objectives:

At the end of this course the student should be able to:

• Understand advance concepts and methods of implementing SAP Business One software for the following modules:
• Installation, Administration, User-defined fields and tables, Queries and Alert Management, Formatted search, Document editing, Support, Management of an SAP Business One Project.
• Prepare for the SAP Certification exam.

Course Content

• Installation and administration
• User-defined fields and tables
• Queries and Alert Management
• Formatted search
• Document editing
• CRM
• Service
• MRP
• Production
• Management of an SAP Business One Project
• Case Study
• Exercises


jhing1998, any contact number for the SAP program? i'm interested in taking the course but not until Nov. .. how long is the program? thanks

[mb065]

Sorry for resurrecting an old thread, but I figured it would be better rather than creating the same topic.

I was just wondering, is it worth it to shell out around 400k for the SAP education? Will you really be able to grasp the concepts and be ready for certification and actual practice after such a short time?

I have had some 5day training courses kasi from Oracle and DB wizards, and from those rushed courses, I can say that they're really not that effective at all... ~_~; OK lang if around 30k lang yung training.. but SAP training is no joke.

hi! newbie here, first post. :)

anyway, i think if you're paying for it yourself, it's too much.

but it's a 5 week course, they teach you the concepts and how to do configuration and dati may case study pa then the certification exam.

i think it's better to take the course when you have a little background na on sap, more so if you have experience na.

when i attended the academy 8 years ago (250k pa lang non, and good that the company paid for it!), i didn't know what sap was about and medyo nahirapan ako sa start.

i have been a sap consultant since but most of what i know i learned from actual experience, not from the academy. i'm not saying the academy is useless, it's just that you learn more from actual experience than by attending the class.

by experience i mean doing implementations, not just using the system as an end-user.

if you can find a company willing to provide sap training, i'd say that would be a better option.

[mac_black]

any update guys? =)

[ThAHuStLa]

Hi mb065, are you currently doing implementations or support? :D

[mb065]

ThAHuStLa, why do you ask? :)

i now do support. but i miss doing implementations.

[harryP05]

hi, im a newbie here, I just want to ask if there is any training institute for SAP? thanks..

[mb065]

SAP Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, etc. you can check training schedules in www.sap.com.

There's also the Kaisa Academy but they have limited course offerings.

[kilooscar]

any feedback about the SAP B1 training in fasttrack?
meron ba nagtrain sa fasttrack dito?

[p0tchi]

hi. i have a friend/officemate na nag training sa fasttrack. i guess 3 weeks lang niya ni-take yung course (beginner and advance). tapos pinadala siya sa malaysia for an OJT (1 month). pag balik niya dito sa pinas, ni-hire siya ng fasttrack. currently SAP B1 consultant na siya sa fasttrack. pabalik balik lang siya ng malaysia para sa on going projects nila.

Im thinking na nga rin na mag enroll sa fasttrack, but i still need to save money pang tuition, though pwede ako manghiram sa parents ko. =)

[poohkyaw]

Hi,

I've been working as a mainframe/cobol programmer for 4 years now. Medyo bored na ko sa color green at black na screen image. I wanted to shift sa SAP but I've noticed that there are a lot of modules. Hinde ko alam kung alin ang okay na module pag aralan. Hope you can give your comments. :confused:

[chuboy]

Hi! In case you guys might be interested.

SAP BUSINESS ONE BASIC COURSE – QUICKSTART PROGRAM
Course Fee PhP 10,920.00 VAT Inclusive

The course is intended for accountants, business professionals, I.T. practitioners, and non-experienced MBA candidates and Graduates who want to have an overview of SAP Business One, its functionality, and value-added features on ERP and MRP for small to midsized businesses. Serving as a foundation for more in-depth learning, this shall be the participant’s solid base towards SAP certification. It is a pre-requisite for the SAP Business One Advance Course.
It is a 5-day class designed for the student-trainee to have a feel of the capabilities of the SAP Business One software. Challenging exercises shall be interspersed with interesting lectures in order to simulate scenarios that usually occur during database building, installation and configuration. Each student-trainee shall be provided with a PC to efficiently facilitate the teaching and learning process.

Course Objectives :

At the end of this course the student should be able to:

• Understand the basic concepts and methods of implementing SAP Business One for the following modules: Financials, Master data, Purchasing, AP, Inventory, Sales, AR, Budgeting, Banking, Period-end closing, Document Handling and Implementation and Configuration.
• Install and configure a basic Business One system for a case company.
• Understand basic helpdesk support processes in maintaining key Business One modules.

Course Content:

• Overview
• Fundamentals on SAP Business One
• Master data
• Document Handling
• Purchasing and AP
• Sales and AR
• Inventory
• Cross Functionalities
• Financials
• Banking
• Period-end closing
• Exercises

Who Should Attend:

• Accountants, System Analysts, IT Professionals, SAP Practitioners.
• MBA Candidates and/or Graduates
• Entrepreneurs

Prerequisites:

• Basic business knowledge
• Working knowledge of MS Office and Windows applications
• Understanding of basic accounting principles

Skill: Introductory

Format:
80% Lecture
20% Exercises

Source: http://www.dls-csb.edu.ph/space/default.asp?section=3&what=20040

[chuboy]

btw, i'm a proud graduate of benilde, and now i am an SAP consultant myself. =)

good luck guys!

[mb065]

but then again, SAP B1 is not the same as SAP R/3. so being an SAP B1 consultant does not make you an SAP R/3 consultant and vise versa.

[treekor]

question... after you get certified for SAP B1, what is the average salary offer? After shelling out around 40k for training, and, if i'm not mistaken, another 33k for the certification exam, I'm wondering what the offer looks like.

Thanks

[treekor]

bamf! ^^ sana may makapagbigay ng feedback :) (extra lang *** sentence after ^^, too short daw kasi *** message)

[coldrockster]

Hi,

I've been working as a mainframe/cobol programmer for 4 years now. Medyo bored na ko sa color green at black na screen image. I wanted to shift sa SAP but I've noticed that there are a lot of modules. Hinde ko alam kung alin ang okay na module pag aralan. Hope you can give your comments. :confused:

I suggest you try ABAP programming.

[treekor]

bamf ulit ^^

[Got_Snatch?]

Anyone here into implementation of SAP CPM (or FPM) suite solutions particularly SAP BPC (formerly Outlooksoft) and SAP SM (formerly Pilot)?

[treekor]

meron bang may idea ano yung actual salary range for sap b1 dito sa philippines? ty

[talunan08]

I'll be trained in SAP SCM in my very first job as a fresh graduate. How are the opportunities for this field? Average salary after 5 years? Do you think I will program in this module? Any advice? Thanks!

[pagie]

I want SAP/ABAP, please suggest companies where I can apply..

[grim_reaper1814]

curious naman ako dito sa SAP na ito. pwede bang mag SAP exam na nag self study.

[lambchop]

you can't. you need tohave atleast one full cycle implementation.

try accenture, kaisa, smits and the software factory

[LostBoy123]

Hello Talunan, What company are you working for?

Anyway, you wont be doing programming there, i believe you are to be an end user or someone who manages an SCM system.

[lambchop]

sap people san kayo nag wo-work?

scm stands for supply chain management. congrats talunan, lostboy is right you will work as an end user. The module was probably created by an abap programmer who specializes with scm.

[Xeth]

guys ano na ba yun market rate ngayon ng junior sap cosultants/trainee. i have an exam kasi n baka after nun interview.

i'm currently working with a manufacturing company pero sa it dept. technician ng computer and network administrator.

papantayan ba nila yun salary or should i expect the salary to be like 15k

[nimbus]

bakit gusto ng companies na may experience dapat sa i.t. pag mag a apply for sap?

and anyone here works for kaisa? gusto ko sana mag work dun kaso lang duda ako sa mga qualifications ko.

tsaka ano po yung abap?

[ThAHuStLa]

guys ano na ba yun market rate ngayon ng junior sap cosultants/trainee. i have an exam kasi n baka after nun interview.

i'm currently working with a manufacturing company pero sa it dept. technician ng computer and network administrator.

papantayan ba nila yun salary or should i expect the salary to be like 15k

Don't expect a salary higher than 18k for 2 years (w/ bond).

[mb065]

nimbus, abap/4 is the programming language of sap.

talunan08, depends on the job. end-user ka ba ng scm? o support? your training and development will depend on the kind of job you'll do.

[talunan08]

Hello Talunan, What company are you working for?
Anyway, you wont be doing programming there, i believe you are to be an end user or someone who manages an SCM system.

I don't think I can disclose my company but it's a big multi national company sir. I don't think I'll be the end user since the training was about how to configure the SCM system for the client's preference.


nimbus, abap/4 is the programming language of sap.

talunan08, depends on the job. end-user ka ba ng scm? o support? your training and development will depend on the kind of job you'll do.

I think I'll do support. The training was about the order to cash processes of Sales & Distribution. From inquiry up to billing (until we pass it to FI people) My co trainees and I will be deployed to our client soon.

[selange]

Hi all!

First post here. :P

Kaisa Consulting also has openings for SAP consultants. I think they are also willing to hire consultant trainees there. You can try applying there - you get the training sponsored by the company and they will also sponsor your certification. Of course, there will be an equivalent bond.

You can check their website at: www.kaisa.com. For careers, you can specifically look at: http://www.kaisa.com/index.php?careers_ucy

Hope this helps!

[nimbus]

is there an age limitation when it comes to trainee positions?

[popsky]

Hi all!

First post here. :P

Kaisa Consulting also has openings for SAP consultants. I think they are also willing to hire consultant trainees there. You can try applying there - you get the training sponsored by the company and they will also sponsor your certification. Of course, there will be an equivalent bond.

You can check their website at: www.kaisa.com. For careers, you can specifically look at: http://www.kaisa.com/index.php?careers_ucy

Hope this helps!

How about the compensation/salary for experienced programmers who wanted to shift into SAP? would you mind sharing those..

[coldrockster]

How about the compensation/salary for experienced programmers who wanted to shift into SAP? would you mind sharing those..

You will still be coming in to the company as entry level, since you still have no SAP experience. In terms of compensation, don't expect a big difference with other fresh grads.

[popsky]

ano ba range ng entry level dito?

[gratz]

@chuboy: congrats. im from benilde too, pero im not an SAP consultant. sa great plains ako.

[chuboy]

but then again, SAP B1 is not the same as SAP R/3. so being an SAP B1 consultant does not make you an SAP R/3 consultant and vise versa.

yeah this is true.. But i guess medyo kupas na ata ang R/3 sir? Hindi ba? ECC 6.0 na kasi version ng gamit namin eh.:)

[chuboy]

@chuboy: congrats. im from benilde too, pero im not an SAP consultant. sa great plains ako.

hello gratz! salamat din! btw, you got pm! Great Plains? Yan na ba yung Microsoft Dynamics ngayon? Huwaw! Congratz din!

[mb065]

yeah this is true.. But i guess medyo kupas na ata ang R/3 sir? Hindi ba? ECC 6.0 na kasi version ng gamit namin eh.:)

yeah i know. but it was merely to illustrate that B1 is B1, different from core SAP. the two are not the same.

and i am a she.

[gratz]

Yup. yun po. mas wow sayo, SAP ka eh.. hehehe

[jccon54]

anyone attended the sap business one training? is it really worthy spending P70,000 to be certified? i'm planning to take this training kaya lang baka masayang lang pera ko if there is no job guarantee and market for sap business one consultant kasi d pa **** ganun karami ang gumagamit ng sap business one. after the training can i earn the average salary of 45000 to 55000 according to the web of Phoenix One? meron b practicum after the training kasi most companies is looking for sap consultant with experience? Every response is highly appreciated. TNX...

[chuboy]

yeah i know. but it was merely to illustrate that B1 is B1, different from core SAP. the two are not the same.

and i am a she.

my apologies madame..hehehe *peace*

[chuboy]

Yup. yun po. mas wow sayo, SAP ka eh.. hehehe

nah, wow padin. :D hehe

[mae-mae]

it depends sa market mo after.. if you think mas maraming companies here in the philippines na gumagamit ng sap b1 then go for it.. im working for a pharma co which is using sap ecc and *** ibang pharma co na kilala din un din ang gamit.. so siguro may idea ka na kung gusto mo pa ba **** mag b1..

anyone attended the sap business one training? is it really worthy spending P70,000 to be certified? i'm planning to take this training kaya lang baka masayang lang pera ko if there is no job guarantee and market for sap business one consultant kasi d pa **** ganun karami ang gumagamit ng sap business one. after the training can i earn the average salary of 45000 to 55000 according to the web of Phoenix One? meron b practicum after the training kasi most companies is looking for sap consultant with experience? Every response is highly appreciated. TNX...

[DongViktor]

what does ecc stand for?

[RosesofShadow]

I'm working as a SAP ABAP Programmer for 2.5 years now and I came to learn SAP just by working. I didn't attend any training by the company or by an external academy, I just learned it by myself.

But the way to do this is to be employed as a programmer in a company that runs SAP. It is highly likely that you'll get the opportunity to learn SAP there. If no one wants to teach you, then teach yourself. This is also very applicable specially to those who do not want to spend thousands or be bonded for that training.

my 2 cents.

[mae-mae]

what does ecc stand for?

ERP Central Component


RosesofShadow is right.. if you want to be a SAP Consultant, you dont need special training. you just have to apply for companies like accenture, mytsfi and the rest that will provide you training.

for abap and sap basis.. you might want to download minisap.. (mejo mahirap nga lang hanapin) para lang makapag practice kayo and download ebooks..
I'm working as a SAP ABAP Programmer for 2.5 years now and I came to learn SAP just by working. I didn't attend any training by the company or by an external academy, I just learned it by myself.

But the way to do this is to be employed as a programmer in a company that runs SAP. It is highly likely that you'll get the opportunity to learn SAP there. If no one wants to teach you, then teach yourself. This is also very applicable specially to those who do not want to spend thousands or be bonded for that training.

my 2 cents.

[mb065]

that's how i learned too - on-the-job while employed by an IT consulting company. i've been a SAP professional for almost 10 years. didn't have formal training, not certified and have no plans of taking the exam. :)

[RosesofShadow]

Right. You don't need to spend hundreds of thousands for that training and still ending up jobless because employers hire you for your experience and not because you passed a certain certification. A certification is only a plus but not required. Nasa tiyaga lang yan at pagpupursige kumbaga... Goodluck to all.

[NNOR]

How is life being a SAP consultant? Is the pay good? Im an experienced accountant but wants to shift and become SAP consultant. What can you advise?

[mae-mae]

@NNOR
pay is good pero baya n din lhat ng holidays mo. hehehe

[mb065]

NNOR, yes, pay is good.

i like it better now that i do in-house support. the pay is even better and it's less stressful. :D

do you have SAP experience even as a user?

[lambchop]

consultancy = stressful, good pay, good experience, very bright future.

[NNOR]

mb065, yes. I have SAP experience but only as a user. How do I go about shifting to SAP consultancy? Is taking an online course a good idea? Ive been trying to apply but they usually need someone with consultant experience.

Appreciate your advise. You may email me at jqz04@yahoo.com.

Thanks guys.

[Xeth]

try fasttrack. if you don't have any experience, you have to take their course which are basic and advance and would cost 41k. so parang binayaran mo sila para hire ka nila. but it's a consultancy firm.

this is business one, which is catered to small-medium enterprises. not R3.

[p0tchi]

Hi mb065, I want to pursue in SAP consultancy, i'm already a SAP user. What other schools offer SAP training?

[mb065]

NNOR and p0tchi, what modules were you users of?

i just hired a junior sap pm support person a couple of months ago, and last week lang i hired a i junior sap ps support person naman. we train in-house and then we send people to the academy after they pass the probationary period. sayang.

anyway, like Xeth mentioned, you may opt for SAP B1, which is designed specifically for SMEs. but it is SAP B1 and it is not core SAP so it's different. but it's a start and you can eventually shift.

or go to the kaisa academy. but personally, i think their curriculum is different from the sap academy's. we have one staff who took the mm course na at kaisa. not sure if it was any good because he's not in my team.

or try the software factory thread here. sometimes they offer training.

or at the companies you work for, do you have an in-house support team? baka you can transfer there if may opening.

sorry not much help. i don't do consulting anymore kasi.

[earth4]

Hi! I'm a SAP user and I conduct training for our new hires on how to use SAP. How can I apply for a SAP consultant? I'm really interested in SAP and other functionalities of it and I want to be a consultant. Thanks.

[mb065]

earth4, do you do sap support as well, as in troubleshoot issues?

if you conduct training, then you're probably a power/super user?

sometimes kasi experience in doing support may have bearing and may compensate for the lack of implem experience. but this depends on how long you have been doing support and the level/kind of support you provide.

or if the company's sap system is global, there is most likely a central support team that does application support (like do bug fixes, upgrades, etc) so the local office might require in-house support pero first level lang kasi you eventually have to escalate to the central support team. if you are part of the in-house team, you will have contact with the central team so you can eventually transition.

[earth4]

mb065, i just train new hires on how to navigate SAP R/3. e.g. how to cut payroll, check employee status, and on how to pull up reports. btw i'm working for a US based company for almost a year already.

Would you suggest that i take a SAP course for me to be able to become a SAP consultant?

[earth4]

mb065 the support team nsa US silang lahat. We just call them if we encounter problems.

[NNOR]

mb065, im a SAP FICO and BW user. We have a SAP support team but its difficult to transfer to their team unless you have solid credentials or has IT background.

I already went to Kaisa and even passed their long long long exam. But its just too expensive. For SAP FICO alone, it would cost me around P600K. Im thinking of taking online course instead. Do you know of any authorized SAP online training course aside from Kaisa?

[Xeth]

mb065, what do you do now? what are your career paths after consulting? kasi sa consulting the highest would be project manager na ata tapos magbranch out ka na.

[lambchop]

hi nnor,

our company is currently looking for SAP FICO trainees. We do implementation here in the philippines and some areas outside. If you want you can send me a pm if you're interested. Currently expanding with some projects in north america.

[mb065]

earth4, NNOR,

going to the sap academy does not also guarantee you will get a job as a sap consultant. i have a friend who took the abap course, paid for it himself, but had a hard time finding an abap job because he had no experience. the same would probably go for online training, if there are any online training facilities. i don't know of anything, sorry.

i think experience still has more bearing than training. but that is my opinion lang.

you may want to try going into the sap consulting companies that offer training kahit may bond because that is just the way it is sometimes. when i went to the academy in 1999, i had a 2-year bond pero worth 250,000 lang. ganon pa kasi siya kamura dati. but that is how it is.

do you escalate straight away to the US team or do you do some troubleshooting on your own.

kasi samin din, the central support team is abroad but before we escalate, we have a local team that tries to solve the issue muna. if it's just data or process issues, we resolve locally. if it's system issues or something that needs debugging or something more complex, we do an initial assessment of the issue then we escalate.

one of my senior staff is now actually qualified to move to the central support team pero junior lang siya don paglipat niya kasi wala siyang config/implem experience.

if the set-up in your company is somehow similar, you might want to see if that option is viable for you.

[mb065]

mb065, what do you do now? what are your career paths after consulting? kasi sa consulting the highest would be project manager na ata tapos magbranch out ka na.

i am in-house sap support team lead and i manage sap improvement projects. parang implem projects pero smaller scale. we implement what i recommend/design/conceptualize, which is the part i like. i do not like the implementation part so much because i manage, i don't do the "dirty" work.

i left the consulting world as a senior consultant. i was being given projects outside the country but i am one of the few who prefer to stay in the philippines so i resigned. then my old client wanted me back so i moved to one of their other contractors and until now do support for them.

i am also one of the few who do not wish to become project manager. i like doing the troubleshooting myself. i also like doing implems/config as a consultant, not as a manager. nam-miss ko na nga mag-config and attempted to go back to being a consultant. but the companies i have talked to can't afford to take me on as a senior consultant anymore kasi hindi na pang local ang billing rate ko. dapat pang project manager na or clients abroad para higher billing rate.

[Xeth]

i'm currently taking up B1. pero more on exposure to the technology ang reason ko. kainis nga ang mga company ngayon. if you want to go with sap, the companies requires you to have at least 2-3 yrs experience. so san ka magsisimula if nobody is willing to hire beginners? they're cheap, they don't want to pay for your training or waste time in training you.

don't get me wrong. there are companies who will hire fresh grads or beginners but you'll be placed in support. you will be very very lucky if you managed to get in a consultancy firm because you get to do a cycle. from proposal, business process, development, implementation support.

i'm actually thinking about studying ITIL foundation v3 as well just to get an edge in applying in multinational companies. i want to go to the management area as well. eventually a PMP certification. I do plan to go abroad kasi.

what's you're take on this mb065? certifications are always a plus right?

[lambchop]

xeth,

meron atleast 3 companies na nag hi-hire even without experience with SAP. ex. bayantrade, supply chain and net logic.

[Xeth]

actually i have an application pending with supply chain. :)
bayantrade, software factory walang opening
i applied with kaisa consulting, but they told me i was overqualified which was dumbfounding since wala naman akong experience sa SAP.

[mb065]

bayantrade has current openings. madami nga actually. pero i think puro experienced ang kailangan nila.

i think one reason why companies sometimes prefer experienced people (with say 1-2 implem cycles) is because it is expensive to train. but when i was starting out, most, if not all, of the consulting companies really would send people to the sap academy.

i took a full sap academy course in 1999 and i took another in 2001 pero half lang, hindi ko natapos kasi i had to be deployed. ngayon bihira na that they send you to the sap academy. yes, they train but sometimes in-house (like tsfi) or they are training partners themselves (like kaisa, and i think bayantrade).

but Xeth, certification is not always a plus. case to case basis pa din, imho.

i am not even certified. nakakahiya mang aminin, hindi ako pumasa nung 1999 but i still got lucky in other ways. nagkataon the module i handle is not so common so i got good exposure and my experience has made my "pedigree".

siguro kung medyo mas common yung module mo and madami kayo, it could be an edge. but i am only talking about sap certification here ha.

i don't know about other certifications. my husband is ITIL certified but that hasn't played a significant role in his applications. he's a project manager now, IT also but not sap.

i don't think there's nothing wrong with starting out in support because it is a good way to learn also. and since there are not very many companies who need to implement (because either they already have it or they can't afford it or their headquarters prefer some other erp), mahirap na din maghanap ng implem work. mas mahirap now than before, of course.

this is just my opinion. i have been out of consulting since 2006 and have been doing support since 2003 so i do not have that much first-hand knowledge on how the market is anymore.

and in case anyone asks, i did 3 full cycle implems before i moved to support. and yes i do get bored doing support sometimes and i really miss doing implems. but i do not miss the stress. i get to do small scale projects pa din naman so that helps to keep me going. and i get paid well, i know higher than my sap contemporaries who are still here in the philippines. and i do not work overtime nor am i ever on-call. so win-win for me. :)

[rokrbro]

Hi to all!

Just want to ask what a "full implementation cycle" mean? I just graduated from my BS Acctcy course and I'm trying to build a career towards sap consultancy services (like Kaisa's). Suggestions, anyone?

[lambchop]

full implementation cycle: from proposal to the date the system goes live.

aside from bayantrade and supply chain ano pang company ang nag pro-provide ng full implementation?

[mb065]

a full cycle implementation is from project preparation all the way to go-live support.

i think ibm solutions delivery may implem din? but not so sure. tsfi dati meron din, not sure kung meron pa/ulit.

[Xeth]

when i was being interviewed at supply chain. the hr told me that majority of their consultants were from HP and IBM. The consultants said that they just do support.

oh yeah i was told that the training of supply chain was in house. so i'm guessing there's no certification involve. and it has a 3 year bond.

but during the interview, the HR told me about a few of their perks which caught my ear. But I guess it's not right to say in public. :)

[mb065]

i know ibm solutions delivery has an on-going roll out project pero bago lang, started last month i think. i got an offer but i turned it down. baka dati puro support but now hindi na.

you can always take the certification exam naman. kahit wala kang formal training pwede ka mag exam. so ok lang in-house training and just take the exam later.

[NNOR]

Just want to share this website that offers SAP online training. Its a lot cheaper than Kaisa but its not authorized. This means, its not enough to qualify you to take the certification exam. Anyone who has taken this kind of training?

http://www.michaelmanagement.com/training_online.asp?aid=1006

[CoolBlues]

I'm interested on pursuing a career on SAP Functional and been looking for a cheaper hands-on training ... Anyone ever heard of ERP Software Tech., Inc.? They are offering SAP training at a lower cost, I want to get some feedback regarding their training before I jump in ;-D ... Thanks

[pikka]

Hi,

Accenture provides in depth exposure to SAP implementation (end to end). On some, it is also equipped with months of on-shore work (mostly European countries). But take note. It all depends on the client you handle.

Doing support work is not bad, actually, it would help you understand SAP process from the other side (similar to reverse engineering) becuase you will find the problem from an already working system. nice huh?

[u2]

Just want to share this website that offers SAP online training. Its a lot cheaper than Kaisa but its not authorized. This means, its not enough to qualify you to take the certification exam. Anyone who has taken this kind of training?

http://www.michaelmanagement.com/training_online.asp?aid=1006

this looks good but how will we be able to study without an actual system to play around with? sap's certification courses require a lot of hands-on training; i'm not sure how an online course with screenshots can help explain the intricacies of such a large application.

i've tried playing around with sap and it doesn't look that simple at all na puwedeng kapain lang.

[mb065]

Just want to share this website that offers SAP online training. Its a lot cheaper than Kaisa but its not authorized. This means, its not enough to qualify you to take the certification exam. Anyone who has taken this kind of training?

http://www.michaelmanagement.com/training_online.asp?aid=1006

please clarify what you mean but this does not qualify you to take the certification exam. you can take the exam even if you have no formal training. i have friends who have done this and passed but they've been sap professionals for a few years when they took the exam.

training is not a pre-requisite to taking the exam.

[NNOR]

Lambchop, Im interested in the job. Sent you a pm.

mb065, I asked someone from Kaisa about it and they said that they wont allow anyone to take the certification exam unless its an authorized SAP training provider. The only exception is if one has actual work experience as a SAP consultant...Dont know if this is true.

U2 - there's an actual system but you have to pay for the access...

[mb065]

NNOR, i see. maybe that is how it is nga for beginners.

[u2]

NNOR - i see.

as i understand it, certification may be taken after the academy course or after having enough experience (2-3years) with the intended focus. sap may ask for certification from your employer that you've been doing just that.

[Kolmogorov]

I have attended 2 SAP Education Training courses delivered by Kaisa. Experience is NOT required to take the certification exams.

Actually, naka package yung training ng Kaisa. Yung tinatawag nilang SAP Academy package is Training plus Certification Exam.

The disadvantage is 1 week lang yung pagitan ng cert exam and the last day of the training so you only have a few days to review. Yung mga classmates ko sa training na nagtake hindi pumasa.

[timbangers]

Hello all.

I saw a post for a ABAP consultant trainee by Kaisa sa jobstreet (or jobsd, i can't remember). May info po ba kayo regarding the position? It just said the candidate has to have java knowledge, and fortunately I've been doing java for 2 yrs now.

Thanks

[coldrockster]

To clarify everything, experience of about 2 years is REQUIRED to take the exam if did not participate in the academy and plan to do self-study. However, if you participated in the academy, experience is not required (ex. after graduation, you took sap academy then examination). A personnel from SAP verified these facts. You may call up for confirmation.

[fmontserrat]

Salam. I'd like to ask if SAP Summit '08 (the July 30 - Small Businesses part) is for free. I am currently a full-time lecturer at a local university and it is my first time to teach computer accounting. I'd like to know more about SAP B1 and how universities can make arrangements/tie-ups with regards to SAP training. Thanks.

[ayabear]

Hello, I just want to ask around how much would be the entry level salary for SAP. I have a pretty stable job with an above average pay but I'm hearing a lot of good things about SAP. I don't have experience in SAP so I guess I'll be in an entry level position if ever I go for it. I really hope someone can help... thanks!

[coldrockster]

Depends on the company, average would be from 15k-30k. Most of them would also bond you since you don't have any experience on SAP yet. I think the benefits of being an sap consultant starts when you have about 2 years experience already since that is the time when companies are willing to pirate you and pay double or triple.

Think of it as an investment thought.
:)

Hello, I just want to ask around how much would be the entry level salary for SAP. I have a pretty stable job with an above average pay but I'm hearing a lot of good things about SAP. I don't have experience in SAP so I guess I'll be in an entry level position if ever I go for it. I really hope someone can help... thanks!

[ayabear]

Depends on the company, average would be from 15k-30k. Most of them would also bond you since you don't have any experience on SAP yet. I think the benefits of being an sap consultant starts when you have about 2 years experience already since that is the time when companies are willing to pirate you and pay double or triple.

Think of it as an investment thought.
:)


Thanks for the information. I'll definitely have to think about it some more. It's lower than what I'm getting now but I really do want a career shift. I'm enrolling in the SAP B1 program in Phoenix One just to see what it's all about.

[grilledbeef]

Are there any SAP Consultants here with at least 3 years of experience? I'm working for a German IT Consulting firm based here in Singapore, and we're in need of people with your experience and expertise.

Please PM me for more details.

[Xeth]

Supply Chain Philippines (formerly Magnus) has openings for the following positions.

Email your resumes to me.
conradsm@gmail.com
Please note what position you're applying for

At least 3 yrs experience in SAP:
ABAP/ABAP-HR
BASIS
MM
FICO
XI
WORKFLOW
DMS/RE/PS

Junior/Senior QA Consultants
Senior Software Engineers
Support Software Engineers
Web Designer
Oracle Developer (PL//SQL)
Dot Net Developer

[sholess]

I have 2 years experience in post go live support for SAP HCM implementations.
I want to do implementations though, take the consultancy track. what's the best company to go to?
ty

[20"strong]

I have no knowledge on SAP pero interesado ako mag shift ng career (Economics grad ako and currently a call center rep). From the looks of it Accenture lang ang pag asa ko para mag start (meron pa bang iba?). My question is, am I required to take a tutorial first (SAP basic etc) or pede ako mag apply agad?

[coldrockster]

I have no knowledge on SAP pero interesado ako mag shift ng career (Economics grad ako and currently a call center rep). From the looks of it Accenture lang ang pag asa ko para mag start (meron pa bang iba?). My question is, am I required to take a tutorial first (SAP basic etc) or pede ako mag apply agad?

No you are not required to take a tutorial. If you are considering accenture, i believe they are going to train you with a bond.

[20"strong]

I see, so I can directly apply for a trainee but there is a bond? Wow...parang ayoko ata nun. Meron pa bang ibang company na tumatanggap sa mga tulad naming newbie sa SAP?

[20"strong]

Bump

Ayon pala sa thread we (newbies without knowledge in SAP) can try accenture, kaisa, smits and the software factory. Alin po sa tingin nyo ang magandang company to start our SAP career?

[Kolmogorov]

Kaisa and Accenture are both good training grounds though Kaisa is heavily into consulting talaga


Both have a training bond by the way.

Anyway, kung career shifter ka naman, a 2-3 year bond is a reasonable work experience bago mo maisipang maghanap ng ibang mapapasukan

[grilledbeef]

I have a job requirement for Senior SAP HR Consultants to be based in either Malaysia or Singapore. At least 3 yrs. of experience in SAP HR is needed, and with at least 2 cycles of Project Implementation experience.

If interested, please PM me.

[kyposa_trooper]

Hi there,

Here the enlish SAP companies that cater SAP training & employment. Details with contact #s & contact persons.


Kaisa Consulting, Inc | 370-1192 | Ms. Dhes Ann De Luna
BayanTrade.Com | 784-7700 | Sarah Lee Gonzales
ProV Int'l | 784-8088 | Roxanne
IT Manager, Inc | 727-1420 | Jesette David
Supply Chain Consulting Phils, Inc | 976-0500 | Ms. Kristine Gumia
Fast Track | 894-1995 to 96 | Jerry Dela Cruz
Global Quest Consulting, Inc | 995-0536 | Sheila
Xcellink Inc | 706-2029 | Elaine

Good luck,

Regards

[kyposa_trooper]

Senya na sa spelling, pero yung details in good condition yun, Thanks. Seeya There.

[kyposa_trooper]

For Accenture, they stop hiring SAP peoples with no working experience because of company outbreak of SAP from 1 of there employee. I hope you already know that issues, its no for me to bring all of the details in here, they don't have any feedback yet when they will be accepting people again with knowledgebase only. As I could tell, get rid of Accenture on your list. [I am just giving an accurate information, I'm not doing anything or anything mess up with other companies, hope you do understand.] My intention in here are very pure to help others get a job as soon as possible. Thank you so much.

[kyposa_trooper]

Continuation of enlist companies that cater SAP training & employment:

Global Quest Consulting | 995-0536 | Shiela
DTSI | 856-8888 | Ace
Logica | 856-8700 |Irene Borromeo | **
ERP Software Tech, Inc | 633-3316 | Jocelyn Viray | *
Cyromtec, Inc | 754-8026 | Jilean | **
Obtech | 752-4177 |Bless **

updates

Supply Chain Consulting |**
Fast Track | *

All enlisted companies are First Come, First Serve basis. So inquire now or it will lapse soon.

All companies caters SAP Functional Consultant Trainee & SAP ABAPer Trainees. Other SAP ABAPs only.

Legends:
* - Offering with pay - Php 125,000.00
** - w/ working XP needed

That's all folks. I'll be keeping you all posted.

[haripoter]

nakapagtraining ako ng SAP Business One Basic... kaso ang daming loopholes... talagang basic lang kasi tinuro sa amin and for browsing and familiarity lang yung kinuha ko hehe...

[kyposa_trooper]

Usually kasi kapag SAP Business1 or FTB mga browsing and simple configuration. Iba talaga kapag SAP modules ang kukunin mo. Right now, may mga bagong exploded modules na magkakaron like SAP APO w/c also called for SAP SCM may branch na sya like DP - Demand Planning, SNP - Supply Network Planning, GATP - Global Available to Promise, & BI/BPS - Business Intelligence. Mawawala na in the near future yun MM, SD, WH, Logistic dahil course included na sya dun sa mga modules na yun. And then dami pang lalabas na bago may XI pa, pati yung SAPPHIRE na hanggang ngayon wala sa Pinas. Basta lahat ng abbreviation lalabas baka nga MIB magkaron, joke lang lagi kasi tayong serious dito. hihihi. Sige bye, hanggang sa muli.

[20"strong]

^ great list, tanong ko lang sir alin sa list *** tumatanggap ng trainee na may sweldo? I tried fasttrack at parang training center lang sila...tnx!

[20"strong]

Or kelangan bang magtraining ka muna sa kanila before ka nila hire?

[kyposa_trooper]

Its all in the list, it would be better to inquire it first. And then you will know, and the HR will definitely help you out. Practice your outsourcing skills its 1 of the criteria that we are looking for SAP. I know its in you, just go go go. And good luck.

FastTrack, ABM Computech and Informatics caters only FTBs or SAP Business1. Thanks, Seeya for another new updates.

[20"strong]

^ Thanks, I'll definitely try calling them.

[mahOgany]

tanong ko lang guys

maganda ba ang experience sa HP if you will be starting as SAP support? meron bang implementation sa HP and will I have a chance to go to implem if I am in support? (parang mas bright kasi ang future if ever mapunta ka sa implementation)

if ever may taga HP **, can u share me some of your experience and success stories. Thanks :)

[Hailey08]

Hi guys. just want to know if BayanTrade accepts SAP Trainee?. thanks..:)

[shara88]

guys, let me ask you something. gusto niyo lang ba mag SAP because of the money? and SAP Consultant ang end up ng trainee? thanks.

[kyposa_trooper]

Hello there, best wishes to all. Good luck for searching the gold.

[kyposa_trooper]

For SAP MM Functional Consultant. Plz never try, Integrated Solutions Technology, Ltd. (ISTL), one of our applicant offer him for only P10,000 the lowest for 1yr exp, P10,500 for 2yr exp, and so on and add'l allowance of 500/month. But still up to all of you, just helping out. And it is also a good pay and nowadays, its very hard to find a job, but if I were you just grab it.

[chesca3llo]

mr. kyposa_trooper, I have inquire for Logica and they said they're open for SAP Trainees, they schedule me for an interview, and I have been to there office at Trafalgar Plaza in Makati, and i'm coming from San Mateo, Rizal. And I failed my interview because they told me they are in need with SAP working experience to be trained for SAP trainee. 'Ang laki kaya ng naaksaya kong pamasahe kay sa na kain ko on that day, naman bat sila ganun'. Di ba kaya nga trainee para ma trained ka dun sa SAP pero bat nanganga-ilangan ng working experience, nakaka loka sila. I have just wasted my time and money, kainis. Sir kyposas di po ako sanyo galit, bat lang naman sila ganun nagsasabi sila ng may open na SAP Trainee tapos kailangan meron working experience pala, abnormal.

[workee]

good morning. just a question also bout logica, do they hire people for SAP that will handle FI module? If so, what are the qualifications? Do they have any vacant position now??

As a background, i've been a user of SAP, involved on the financial aspects since i'm an accountant/ finance. But this time, i wanna try my luck in the backend of SAP, can anyone tell me if i have chances of being qualified a trainee/ junior consultant of SAP??

thanks!

[kyposa_trooper]

Wow, ms. chesca nakikidalamhati ako w/ you in LOGICA, yes mayron silang opening for all different modules FI/CO, APO, SCM, BI for SAP Trainees but they're in need with people with previous experience on entpr resource planning meaning you should have hands on with SAP R/3 or other software though you have experience from accounting, procurement, IT or business mgt wala din. We can't blame them for there being pointless, at least you have tried your best, and that's good enough. And hindi lang LOGICA ang ganyan marami pang iba. Pls. PM me with your e-mail here, but not in this forums, so let's see if we could help. And same as with everybody hope you have learn something to prevent the inevitable, para di na tayo padalodalos. Workee, hope you have find something new today. And don't stop trying to reach your goal, stumble and fall, is a part of one step at a time. God Bless.

[mb065]

guys, let me ask you something. gusto niyo lang ba mag SAP because of the money?

i enjoy the job too. i like what i do and it is a big bonus that the job pays well.

[flexi]

Logica is now accepting applicants who are willing to be trained in SAP!!! if you're interested just send me your resume ilove_joe24@yahoo.com

Just make sure you have experinece in Production Planning, HR, Accounting, and as Plant Personnel

Thanks!


SAP Trainee (Production Planner)

Performs day-to-day activities related to Production Planning
Good communication skills
Good analytical and problem-solving skills
Have an in-depth knowledge of Production Planning
Basic knowledge of Windows or other Graphical User Interfaces

Familiarity with SAP R/3 or any other ERP system
Good understanding of how the integrated ERP modules work together and support the individual departments of an organization
Experience of working within a support environment
Business Analysis skills


SAP Trainee (CPA or Accounting Personnel)

Performs day-to-day activities related to Accounting (CPA, Accountant, Accounting Assistant)
Good communication skills
Good analytical and problem-solving skills
Have an in-depth knowledge of Financials or Management Accounting
Basic knowledge of Windows or other Graphical User Interfaces

Familiarity with SAP R/3 or any other ERP system
Good understanding of how the integrated ERP modules work together and support the individual departments of an organization
Experience of working within a support environment
Business Analysis skills

SAP Trainee (HR Practitioner)

Performs day-to-day activities related to HR (HR manager/assistant/ HR generalist)
Good communication skills
Good analytical and problem-solving skills
Have an in-depth knowledge of human capital management
Basic knowledge of Windows or other Graphical User Interfaces

Familiarity with SAP R/3 or any other ERP system
Good understanding of how the integrated ERP modules work together and support the individual departments of an organization
Experience of working within a support environment
Business Analysis skills

SAP Trainee (Plant Personnel)

Performs day-to-day activities related to Plant Maintenance
Good communication skills
Good analytical and problem-solving skills
Have an in-depth knowledge of Plant Maintenance
Basic knowledge of Windows or other Graphical User Interfaces

Familiarity with SAP R/3 or any other ERP system
Good understanding of how the integrated ERP modules work together and support the individual departments of an organization
Experience of working within a support environment
Business Analysis skills

[anthonx]

Hi to all. meron akong thread na hinahanap tungkol sa companies that are using SAP. Baka pwede paki re-post naman or just provide a link. Or better yet, come up with a new list. kasi dumarami ng mga companies na nag SAP. Also paki add na rin mga certified SAP partners here in the Philippines. thanks to all.

[mic.ochua]

SAP is very expensive, half a million and isang module nito. pero meron naman tayo dito sa pinas na companies offering SAP and ABAP trainings like chevron, kaisa, hp, etc. pre-requisite niya is dapat 1 year programming exp.

[mic.ochua]

and btw, meron din isang SAP which means Simple As Possible

[chesca3llo]

LOGICA SUCKS, that's the one I have seen in the newspaper ads,
- Familiarity with SAP R/3 or any other ERP system
Good understanding of how the integrated ERP modules work
together and support the individual departments of an organization
Experience of working within a support environment.
>> People, Don't be fooled for this stuff, it means you need to have working experience or if not you’re just wasting your time & effort applying on them. Look at me, I am already hired within a week also. Just to give you a glimpse of a hint the company starts with "D", and I am a SAP trainee for Netweaver, nothing to brag about it guys, talaga todo next level lang ang maghanap, magsikap, porsige, imbes na sumakit ang ulo nyo. Ang bait ng employer ko I'm just a fresh grad BS Management lang me, and train nila ko for free and I do accept there bindings and w/ given salary is already enough, kahit wala nga ok lang for me. For sure to everyone there, makakakita din kayo sa Jobsdb.PH. esp to those who are jobless I know what your into right now. Basta wag lang kayong papaloko. OK. See you all there.

[flexi]

I worked here in logica for a year now.. And as for my experience, personally,it doesnt suck! I wouldn't stay here this long if I think the company sucks..

[anthonx]

SAP is very expensive, half a million and isang module nito. pero meron naman tayo dito sa pinas na companies offering SAP and ABAP trainings like chevron, kaisa, hp, etc. pre-requisite niya is dapat 1 year programming exp.

Oo nga its very expensive. kaya nga when the issue was raised na sobrang mahal ng training, someone suggested to apply sa mga companies na makapag provide ng SAP trainings. Sa Kaisa nga may mga package sila for career shifters tapos maka pag loan kapa sa bangko kaso lang ang problema is after sa training mo kung may kukuha sa iyong company. Also puno ka pa sa utang. hehe.

[anthonx]

sorry... double post...

[shara88]

Hi to all. meron akong thread na hinahanap tungkol sa companies that are using SAP. Baka pwede paki re-post naman or just provide a link. Or better yet, come up with a new list. kasi dumarami ng mga companies na nag SAP. Also paki add na rin mga certified SAP partners here in the Philippines. thanks to all.

maganda reputation ng Kaisa sa SAP :bop:

[Hailey08]

to: Ms. Flexi,

ask ko lang po yung intervals (days) before getting the results of the tech. interview sa logica?..thanks po. do they give you feedbacks po ba if you passed or didn't?..thanx po..:)

[kikogelle]

LOGICA SUCKS, that's the one I have seen in the newspaper ads,
- Familiarity with SAP R/3 or any other ERP system
Good understanding of how the integrated ERP modules work
together and support the individual departments of an organization
Experience of working within a support environment.
>> People, Don't be fooled for this stuff, it means you need to have working experience or if not you’re just wasting your time & effort applying on them. Look at me, I am already hired within a week also. Just to give you a glimpse of a hint the company starts with "D", and I am a SAP trainee for Netweaver, nothing to brag about it guys, talaga todo next level lang ang maghanap, magsikap, porsige, imbes na sumakit ang ulo nyo. Ang bait ng employer ko I'm just a fresh grad BS Management lang me, and train nila ko for free and I do accept there bindings and w/ given salary is already enough, kahit wala nga ok lang for me. For sure to everyone there, makakakita din kayo sa Jobsdb.PH. esp to those who are jobless I know what your into right now. Basta wag lang kayong papaloko. OK. See you all there.


chesca i badly search for SAp work ****.. *** *** tagal ng mga processing nagaply narin ako sa bayantrade for examination na ako.. pede ko po bang malaman *** company PM mo nalan ako bout it thank you so much..
thanks din sa advice mo bout LOGICA balak ko rin mag apply dun..la rin akong exp sa SAP bute naman uve given a ggod advice..

[flexi]

to: Ms. Flexi,

ask ko lang po yung intervals (days) before getting the results of the tech. interview sa logica?..thanks po. do they give you feedbacks po ba if you passed or didn't?..thanx po..:)

Yes they will inform you if you pass or fail. usually 1 - 2 weeks. minsan pagkatapos mo ng interview sasabihin agad *** if you pass or fail, depende sa department.

[anthonx]

@flexi

already submitted my resume to your email account you've provided. Please send us an acknowledgment receipt. Para naman maging confident kami na receive mo nga. thanks.

[flexi]

@flexi

already submitted my resume to your email account you've provided. Please send us an acknowledgment receipt. Para naman maging confident kami na receive mo nga. thanks.

Ok! thanks po!
Anyway,pa pm sakin ng email ad mo para macheck ko po *** ***. Thanks!

[msaber69]

i want to work with SAP kaya lang I'm going to my 4th year of working experience in IT.. May ERP experience ako, curious lang, what PL does SAP use? Java ba? Backend nya kasi dito sa Philam is MSSQL.. Can I apply as a consultant? :D

[agentshiny]

It helps if we can list down companies that can hire SAP folks who do not have SAP experience or minimal experience.

I can start with:
HP
IBM
Accenture
Kaisa

Let us help each other and list companies that hire people for SAP with minimal experience so that we have a direction to pursue.

[Hailey08]

I agree with you agentshiny, kasi i belong to one of those who have a minimal experience in SAP and we deserve to have a chance to improve the learning and technical skills. After all SAP's existence means providing faster and more efficient jobs to other people (employed SAP users)..:D*okay*


It helps if we can list down companies that can hire SAP folks who do not have SAP experience or minimal experience.

I can start with:
HP
IBM
Accenture
Kaisa

Let us help each other and list companies that hire people for SAP with minimal experience so that we have a direction to pursue.

[chesca3llo]

Count me in I like to help out also, I have the list and some1 gave it to me, tnx. But B4 I give you all the package can we make an agreement or a deal not to go any more for LOGICA. And how can you assure me. . .? And I'm a CheerLeader. SAVE the CheerLeader, save the world.

[chesca3llo]

hello all, have you seen this site this week, I not practically sure if this is true. The next following details are enlisted . . . .


FREE SAP Training, FREE Accomadation, FREE Food !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ad ID: 81968736
Visits: 12
Location: Washington DC DC
Date Listed: Oct-20-08

Acquis Software, a leading provider of ERP Services and Products, is now looking forward to expand it’s Professional Services and Support team to be able to address the growing needs of our Fortune 1000 SAP Customers in the US .
We are a Leading provider of ERP Services and IT Consulting in some of the latest New Dimension Technology
Target Audience (Whom we are looking for*):
Consultants looking forward to get into a New career
OPT/Masters students who are not experienced
OR Junior Consultants
OR Mid level Consultant (with 2 to 5 yrs of experience)
OR Senior Consultants with 5 to 10 yrs of experience.
(some programming background such as JAVA/J2EE/.NET/VB/Mainframe/Web programming might help. If they have had any training prior, that might be even better).

The professionals would be trained on one of the above areas such as JAVA/J2EE, C/C++, .NET, Websphere, Weblogic, SAP etc. (Depending on the background of the consultants) (THERE IS NO FEES FOR THE TRAINING).

We are hiring consultants who are / will be graduating from their Masters Degree having their CPT/OPT
Attractive hourly rates / percentage options available for experienced professionals (Annual salary to range from USD70K to USD120K OR % to range from 70/30 to 85/15).

Soft Skills required
i. Good Communication skills and impressive demonstration skills.
ii. Ability to learn quickly and perform dynamically.
iii. Willingness to work as a fulltime Employee (on W2 either Salaried/Hourly).
iv. Willingness to invest time/effort into the training

The Benefits for the right candidate:
We are willing to do all kind of sponsorships like CPT/OPT/H1B and Green Card processing for qualified candidates. We Process H1*s for our employees within the United States as well as from various other Countries.
1. Willing to sponsor CPT/OPT/H1B for ALL eligible candidates.
Masters students with CPT/OPT can also avail opportunity to extend their OPTs for up to 29 months with E-Verification options.
2. Green card processing would be made available as may be required.
3. The Trainees will undergo extensive implementation and will be trained during the project on hi tech upcoming MDM / NetWeaver Technologies.
4. Candidates are welcome to work on a Hourly or Percentage basis DOE.
5. Attractive Starting Annual Salaries Depending on Experience (up to US$ 120K)
6. Appraisals and Rate Revisions every 6 months.
7. Relocation Expenses (including Airfare, Rental Car and Lodging) upon a new Project Assignment
8. Immediate placement on our existing Support Implementation.
(*If your background is found satisfactory, we would guarantee your Placement)

We also provide Vacation and an Insurance package for all our employees (Dental, Medical, Vision, 401K, etc.) along with Tuition, Books and various Career Advancement programs and a comprehensive online KnowledgeBase of IT Resources to facilitate quick Skills Advancement for our Employees.

Questions (to be answered by Applicants)
1. Current location: (US, Canada *)
2. Work Status at that location: (Student, Work permit, Permanent Resident, Citizen)
3. Country of Origin (Citizen of)?: ( India , China , Philippines etc.)
4. Availability for Training: (Full time/Part time)
5. Programming Language/Platform most comfortable with (indicate on a scale of 1 to 10)
(JAVA, C/C++ or .NET, Visual C++, Web/HTML/XML, database etc)
6. Any prior IT Training or exposure? Which Technology/Product?
(JAVA, .NET, C/C++, Websphere, Weblogic, SAP, Oracle Apps, Peoplesoft.)
7. If you are interested into SAP, What is your interest and inclination when it comes to getting into SAP?
8. Any interest in a specific SAP Module please indicate.
(Portal, BW, XI, SRM, CRM, xApps, ABAP, MDM etc)
9. Open to Relocation?

The answers to the above will simplify our conversation and we can expedite things.
After receiving your response to the above questions and a detailed updated Resume in word format we will contact you to discuss further about your H1B/GC filing.

To apply please respond immediately with your resume to Akshi@AcquisSoftware.com

Regards
Akshi M.
Direct: 862.485.5922
Technical Recruiter
Email: Akshi@acquissoftware.com

* Acquis Software is an Equal Opportunity Employer (EOE). Qualified applicants are considered for employment without regard to age, race, color, religion, sex, national origin, sexual orientation, disability or veteran status.

[Hailey08]

@chesca3llo
actually, it just happened that my friend have forwarded my CV to Logica actually di ko alam papunta duon, naka receive lang ako ng phone call interview di ko alam kung technical int na b yun or initial lang kasi medyo detailed , but prior to that honestly i've sent my own applications to some prospect companies din that are catering to those who have no experience or less experience in SAP (majority of these few e top priority ko talaga kaso mahirap din ma identify yung length ng processing ng application )...huhuhu...kung may idea pa kyo kung san ok.salamat sa mga gustong tumulong.. =)

[anthonx]

Hi to all !

Just wanted to ask those people who had undergone the career shifter SAP training course in Kaisa or somebody who knows someone who did. So, how was it? I noticed kasi sa eAcademy course nila na you will be provided with an eBook to read. Baka kasi puro lectures lang in preparation sa exams. Gusto ko kasi may actual hands on training. Sa mga people na knowledgeable abot this, paki share naman. thanks.

[coldrockster]

Hi to all !

Just wanted to ask those people who had undergone the career shifter SAP training course in Kaisa or somebody who knows someone who did. So, how was it? I noticed kasi sa eAcademy course nila na you will be provided with an eBook to read. Baka kasi puro lectures lang in preparation sa exams. Gusto ko kasi may actual hands on training. Sa mga people na knowledgeable abot this, paki share naman. thanks.

You are correct. eAcademy will only be pure lectures in which you have to do self study. After you pass the examination, that's the time you will be deployed to projects for your "hands on training."
If you are referring to Kaisa, I believe they will bond you for your training.

[anthonx]

@ coldrockster

clarification lang. After passing the exam, Kaisa will trained you as an employee of the company? or will they just refer you to one of their clients? Kasi sa website nila they had mentioned a sponsor company.

[chesca3llo]

PS. to all, pasensya na if I could not answer some of your PM, not that I am selfish about it. Don't know how to put this baka ma misinterpret ako ulit, sori. That you need to study hard also, you need to stand up on your own. And not rely to much anyone in here. Some of the given details are already on this forum for SAP Training. Some others may ups and down lang talaga, tha't why we are here or di lang ako or any1 na magspeak up para malaman kung yung certain company na inaapplyan natin ay credible para satin. All in this group and are already giving enough some of the perks. We only need is to apply it. Pasensya na nagbasabihan lang ho ako ng ibang mga active members dito. Kaya ito ng yayari sakin di naman po ako HR recruiterer.

[Infiltrator]

Me too I do have a bad reputation for the company of LOGICA GSD Philippines formerly LogicCMG. Me, though I do have certification training from KAISA and its not just an eAcademy they did'nt get me as well or hire me. Because I didn't came from a company with previous working experience. You need to present them a COE that you work with a company before that deals with SAP, although I do present a good Certification from of SAP FICO for KAISA. OK, lang kasi mamababa naman yung given salary nila, some of my friends there who works for SAP aalis na din sila after the mass hiring for SAP, there client expect to much, but they gave less to there employees.

[coldrockster]

@ coldrockster

clarification lang. After passing the exam, Kaisa will trained you as an employee of the company? or will they just refer you to one of their clients? Kasi sa website nila they had mentioned a sponsor company.

Kaisa will not train you anymore, the training is already the Academy you attended. Instead, it will hire you as one of their employee (with low pay I think). Being one of there employee, they can now send you to one of their clients where you can apply what you have learned in the academy.
Anyway, I believe by browsing back this topic, you will know more about it. Just be resourceful.

[halohalo]

"For many are called, but few are chosen
—Matthew 22:14, KJV"

kaya wag siraan ang ibang company...
peace out!!

sa totoo lang wala din akong alam sa SAP..
pero in demand ngayon..

hehehe saka na ako magbaback read..

[mae-mae]

http://ph.jobstreet.com/jobs/2008/10/default/80/2011489.htm?fr=L

Looking for SAP trainees

[chesca3llo]

Yez, EJ Hall Consultants, you could try it, why not? Its a recruitment firm Vicente Madrigal Bldg at Ayala Ave., and as far as I know they are connected with Software Laboratories, Inc. a recruitment firm also. Happy week end and Halloween?

[cyrus_chia]

Looking for individuals (fresh grads or career shifters) who eagerly and really want to learn SAP (ABAP/technical or implementation/functional).

Successful candidates will be offered:
- SAP training in the finance/supply-chain modules, for free
- 20-30K Pesos per month salary
- No bond

For interested individuals, please email your comprehensive resumes to cyrus_chia-metaphor@yahoo.com.ph

[b4uc]

Avisala Cyrus,

Could we know what company is catering for SAP Trainee and could avail these stuff:
- SAP training in the finance/supply-chain modules, for free
- 20-30K Pesos per month salary
- No bond

Thanks

-b4uc

[prince_sniffer]

ako may background ng sap. yung school kasi namin nagooffer ng sap fico module sa mga students

[gb25]

Avisala Cyrus,

Could we know what company is catering for SAP Trainee and could avail these stuff:
- SAP training in the finance/supply-chain modules, for free
- 20-30K Pesos per month salary
- No bond

Thanks

-b4uc

yup, may we know the company pls? thanks!

[b4uc]

GB25 and Prince Sniffer,

I have a new PM awhile ago, tell me if your interested ah para sabi ko kung sang place tayo kita or straight ahead na lang tayo dun magkita. Sige, any other people would like to join us, and apply for a job fair for SAP. Seeya just PM me. TY.

- and Cyrus pa PM muna lang samin yung company if it is confidential, Thank you so much.

[angisa]

pm me the details also pls. very much interested. tnx!

[flowerstarfish]

Career shifter here. Interested in this too. Pls. PM me the details also. Thanks!

[Mageta]

Hi guys!
Good morning PEXers! :)
Same here! Please PM the details! :)

[tophe_17]

Good morning!

I'm on SAP training as well - CO (E-Academy).


May mga consultants din dito? PS Consultant here; hope to meet other consultants too.

[tophe_17]

Avisala Cyrus,

Could we know what company is catering for SAP Trainee and could avail these stuff:
- SAP training in the finance/supply-chain modules, for free
- 20-30K Pesos per month salary
- No bond

Thanks

-b4uc



I think this is impossible.
You cannot get a free SAP training if you're not bonded. The company will also consider its interests as well.