Where Should My Son Study? Up La Salle Or Ateneo? Help?

[FUCHSIA]

Help naman oh! My son is now in finishing his third year of high school. This summer magrereview na siya for the UPCAT pero di pa rin namin alam kung saan mas maganda- UP, LA SALLE or ATENEO. I had my MBA at LA SALLE but budget wise I prefer UP, kaso pano kung si siya lumusot sa UPCAT. Bright naman siya eh. HELP! :eyecrazy:

[tidus1203]

Ask you one question before I answer you. What course will he be taking, from their we can get an educated opinion.

[clawed_out]

Why don't you ask you kid first on what his interests are, or what does he want to become later.

[dexXA]

let's be frank: whichever course your kid wants, UP is better than Ateneo.

[candygirl090787]

Maybe UP will do..........

[Hisbenz]

as evrybody's first option, let your son be in UP.

but then, it depends on the course.

[HARE]

Ask your son where he want to study. It is always better if he would study or if he would be geared up to study in a University of his choice regardless of the course, standards or whatever.

From my point of view,pare pareho lang yan. It'll depend if your son would really work hard to be the best that he can be.

Many people excel because of their self confidence, and he'll only develop such in the place where he would want to study and belong to.

[Ultra_MegaStar]

If you can afford it, why not give your son the best education available in the Philippines? Send him to the Ateneo. If you can't afford it, UP is not a bad option.

[Dacs]

If your son wants to pursue a degree in engineering, go for UP.

[ground_break]

I guess only your son can answer that question.

In the mean time, I advise you to have you son get UPCAT review lessons. This will not only get him ready for UPCAT but also ACET,DLSUET and other college entrance exam.

[Stirling]

If you can afford it, why not give your son the best education available in the Philippines? Send him to the Ateneo. If you can't afford it, UP is not a bad option.
Ateneo is not the best in the Philippines, it's UP and CHED, Asiaweek, APRU and the ASEAN University Network would agree.

If she can afford, send her son to prestigious schools in England or in the US. Ateneo is cheap.

[Ultra_MegaStar]

If she can afford, send her son to prestigious schools in England or in the US. Ateneo is cheap.

I agree. If she can afford it, she should send her son abroad, either in the USA or the UK (even Singapore). If she can't send her son abroad but can afford only a local education, she should send her son to Ateneo, the best school in the Philippines. If she can't afford Ateneo, UP is not a bad choice.

[mr. yotsuya]

I agree. If she can afford it, she should send her son abroad, either in the USA or the UK (even Singapore). If she can't send her son abroad but can afford only a local education, she should send her son to Ateneo, the best school in the Philippines. If she can't afford Ateneo, UP is not a bad choice.

in terms of engineering, i've heard india has some of the best engg schools ryt now. even better than in the US. i don't know if you'll be sending your son there though. hehe...

as for my answer, UP is my alma mater so i say it's very good. i didn't have much problem finding a job. if you want ateneo, i'm not sure but during my time they were offering a 100% scholarship for the top passers in ACET along with a double degree (Chem engg, with chemistry cool eh?) so it could be a solution to your budget problems if thats what your worried about. please confirm if its still offerred though.

also, if your son is interested in an engineering course, i think its worth mentioning that Mapua has a cool system right now wherein graduating students have the option of taking a double degree or a masteral degree before completing their number 1 course. i'm not familiar with the details though but it is a good deal i think plus they do have a reputation in engg.

[nowhereman]

Choosing any of the three (U.P., Ateneo or La Salle) will assure your son of a good education, but if I were you I would encourage him to choose U.P. Ateneo and La Salle are too sheltered and their student populations are made up of people coming from the same socio-economic backgrounds. Campus life in U.P. is much more dynamic and your son will have a chance to interact with a broader range of people.

[SantoTomouse]

fuchsia,

why did you leave ust out? i think you created this thread to bash.

[barako_cafe_00]

go to La Salle!

[twerpy_craphead]

Choosing any of the three (U.P., Ateneo or La Salle) will assure your son of a good education, but if I were you I would encourage him to choose U.P. Ateneo and La Salle are too sheltered and their student populations are made up of people coming from the same socio-economic backgrounds. Campus life in U.P. is much more dynamic and your son will have a chance to interact with a broader range of people.


not true...not all people in La Salle come from the same socio-economic backgrounds. there are people coming from wealthier families, but they are only less than half the whole population. many still come from average-income families.

[lucent1425]

siyempre po, sa UP, pilitin makapasa sa UPCAT dahil the best po talaga ang UP, kung hindi naman po papalarin, sana sa ATENEO pero depende pa rin po sa kurso.

kung DLSU po kasi, d bale na lang, baka mag-react ang mga Lasalista pero overrated lang po ang LaSalle, except for Accountancy, ka-level lang po ng DLSU ang UST, San Beda, FEU, MApua at PLM

[mandennis]

Fuchsia,

kung ayaw mo maging mayabang o maangas ang anak mo (tulad ng mga sumagot sa iyo dito), 'wag mo na siya pag-aralin sa UP, Ateneo o la Salle. teka, sa lahat ba naman ng lugar na tatanungin mo ang tanong mo, bakit dito pa sa PEx? sigurado naman na puro bias ang sagot with a very, very few exceptions. at saka, saang planeta ka ba galing at hindi mo alam ang tungkol sa mga pamantasan na ito? ano ka si FPJ? kung kailan siya tumakbo na presidente, doon pa lang niya naisip na alamin kung ano ang mga problema kung bakit pobre ang Pilipinas.

Namfuchsia naman oh!

[Red_Wolf]

I won't graduate anytime soon from any of the three schools you want your son to study in, pero the choice of school depends on what course your son wants to take up. and take note that college education costs an arm and a leg nowadays, especially in some 'high-end' schools I know.

Encourage your son to take up review classes. that way, he'd be ready for the real thing when it comes around, saan mang eskwelahan niya gustong mag-aral .

In the end, once your son is already enrolled in a certain school, it would be up to him to make sure he will study hard, and the output will be worth every peso you'll invest in his education. Don't force him to study at a school he doesn't want to be in...remember, it's his adult life you're preparing him for, and we all know we ain't gonna be there for our kids forever.

[DavidAames]

siyempre po, sa UP, pilitin makapasa sa UPCAT dahil the best po talaga ang UP, kung hindi naman po papalarin, sana sa ATENEO pero depende pa rin po sa kurso.

kung DLSU po kasi, d bale na lang, baka mag-react ang mga Lasalista pero overrated lang po ang LaSalle, except for Accountancy, ka-level lang po ng DLSU ang UST, San Beda, FEU, MApua at PLM

sorry...hindi ka level ng UST ang DLSU sa Accounting...mas mataas kami! hehehe..saka wala naman actually sa school yan...nasa tao yan...yung iba nga top3 daw nag grad...wala namang alam sa REAL WORLD... nasa tao pa rin... pero hindi naman masama mag paaral ng anak sa UP and Ateneo, wag lang sa DLSU...overratted kasi ang DLSU kaya napasali sa top 3 hehehe...fact talaga yan.ehehe..mas magaling kami sa DLSU...lalo na sa mga board exams...at number of CoEs and CoDs...

pag gusto ng anak mo ng Humanities courses, UP and Ateneo
pag sciences UST, UP
pag medicine, UST, UP
pag paramedical.. including nursing UST, UP
law...UP, Ateneo
ano pa...nasa gusto ng anak mo yan....



PS...wala lang...tagal ko nang di nang away....

[gobbledygook]

sorry...hindi ka level ng UST ang DLSU sa Accounting...mas mataas kami! hehehe..saka wala naman actually sa school yan...nasa tao yan...yung iba nga top3 daw nag grad...wala namang alam sa REAL WORLD... nasa tao pa rin... pero hindi naman masama mag paaral ng anak sa UP and Ateneo, wag lang sa DLSU...overratted kasi ang DLSU kaya napasali sa top 3 hehehe...fact talaga yan.ehehe..mas magaling kami sa DLSU...lalo na sa mga board exams...at number of CoEs and CoDs...

pag gusto ng anak mo ng Humanities courses, UP and Ateneo
pag sciences UST, UP
pag medicine, UST, UP
pag paramedical.. including nursing UST, UP
law...UP, Ateneo
ano pa...nasa gusto ng anak mo yan....









PS...wala lang...tagal ko nang di nang away....


NICE TRY! I applaud your immense bravery for posting "your" so-called "facts".

[greensoap]

sorry...hindi ka level ng UST ang DLSU sa Accounting...mas mataas kami! hehehe..saka wala naman actually sa school yan...nasa tao yan...yung iba nga top3 daw nag grad...wala namang alam sa REAL WORLD... nasa tao pa rin... pero hindi naman masama mag paaral ng anak sa UP and Ateneo, wag lang sa DLSU...overratted kasi ang DLSU kaya napasali sa top 3 hehehe...fact talaga yan.ehehe..mas magaling kami sa DLSU...lalo na sa mga board exams...at number of CoEs and CoDs...

pag gusto ng anak mo ng Humanities courses, UP and Ateneo
pag sciences UST, UP
pag medicine, UST, UP
pag paramedical.. including nursing UST, UP
law...UP, Ateneo
ano pa...nasa gusto ng anak mo yan....



PS...wala lang...tagal ko nang di nang away....

this is a good reason why the academe is not exactly a peaceful place...haaayy...

[sexy_bluegurl]

Originally Posted by Ultra_MegaStar
If you can afford it, why not give your son the best education available in the Philippines? Send him to the Ateneo. If you can't afford it, UP is not a bad option.

didnt u pass UPCAT? hahaha! i think that's pure sour grapes. anyway, i dont mean to pick up a fight..just want to state a fact...UP is not a bad option simply because it is the BEST option...:)

[atenean_blooded]

My advice is to just have your son prepare well over the summer. Prepare well for the ACET, which is the hardest college entrance test in the country. Brush up on math and english. Practice logic and abstract reasoning. He should also focus on speed, since the ACET's time pressure can be a tough nut to crack.

Also, prepare for the UPCAT, which, while easy, can also be called easy by the thousands of other applicants. Your son might score really well in the UPCAT, but if he doesn't make a quota, he won't make it.

After preparations for the ACET and UPCAT, your son should be ready to tackle any other college entrance test. Make sure that he doesn't slack off after the ACET, since he may want to also take the la salle test.

You and your son may want to look into the different schools that he's interested in. Drop by the campuses and see if you can arrange for tours and to sit in lectures. Get a feel of the academic environment. Look at the people. Look at the facilities. Consider location (although there really isn't much difference if you're talking about the Ateneo and UP, since they're practically beside each other -- I'd say that this part of Metro Manila, Loyola Heights/Diliman really is one of the major academic areas in the nation).

Of course, your son should examine his interests. He should try to define a career path. Once he's established long-term goals, he can examine the different academic programs at the different schools, and then see if these jive with his goals. And more than that, he may want to look into the school's core values and see if the educational philosophy there is something that he'd appreciate. UP and la salle are both geared toward specialization, whereas the Ateneo focuses on wholistic, generalist training which is strongly rooted in the liberal arts. Does your son want to pursue further studies after college? Does your child want to get rich quick? Does he want to change the world? Different schools have different ways of forming character.

When looking at tuition, there are two things: if your son's an above-average student, he can probably apply for a scholarship. And when it comes to shelling out money, think in terms of return on investment. Will paying around Php100k for an Ateneo education be worth it? Will trimestral payments at la salle be worth it? I'm sure UP's tuition rates, being much lower, seem to be great option. So examine whether or not you'll be willing to pay a premium for the education that the Ateneo and la salle offer.

Whatever happens, please tell him that unless he's an athlete gunning for a possible varsity position, that the choice of which university to attend shouldn't really be influenced by its performance in sports. :D

I hope that this helps.

[ziggyboy]

In short, what atenean_blooded meant was if your son passes the ACET he will be God.

[FUCHSIA]

Thank you for all those who replied. Lalo na doon sa mga gusto talaga makatulong sa mga sagot nila. Muchas Gracias.

Sorry ha, wala ako intention mag-bash or whatever. Honest to goodness question lang. Ako kasi sa College of the Holy Spirit ako nag-graduate ng accounting eh. very good student naman ako. Noong naghanap na ako ng work nahirapan ako kasi prefer ng employers noon eh graduate ng UP, Ateneo or La Salle. Bias sila baga.

My son does not know yet what course he intends to take pero leaning siya ng konti sa computer science, engineering (computer or industrial) or architecture or pre-med. Dami no? Di pa niya talaga alam ang gusto niya.

He is a varsity swimmer in his high school and if papalarin we would like to take advantage of that sa papasukan niyang school- may discount ba or lower ang upcat passing score or something?

I definitely cannot afford to send him abroad. And besides tinanong ko siya kung gusto niya (dahil balak kong ipangutang kung sakaling sumagot ng oo - pero diko kaya *** Stanford kungdi Sonoma State University lang), ayaw niya, sagot sakin "I want to give the Philippines a try".

So kung engineering - UP
kung com science ba eh La Salle??? of UP din?
kung pre-med - UP
kung architecture - wala sa ateneo di ba?

sa April mag rereview na siya sa AHEAD (ok ba dun?) ng UPCAT. Pero he will take all the entrance exams of the 3 schools.

:)

[lucent1425]

goodluck sa son mo, tell him na pagbutihan ang pag-review para makapasa sa UPCAT at ACET.

kung archi, then sa UST, Mapua, FEU ang choices
kung pre-med, UP, UST, FEU & UE
kung eng. UP, Mapua


:stan:

[nerdox]

computer science - La Salle (consider the budget though. Not just the tuition.)
computer engineering - La Salle (consider the budget though. Not just the tuition.)
industrial engineering - UP
architecture - UP, UST ok din ata.
pre-med - UP

And err... no i'm not bashing Ateneo. She didn't list anything in the Arts field which is the forte of Ateneo. Say pre-law and I'd be the first to say Ateneo. :lol:

[Tmac_1]

biases aside, which school is the best in engineering? particularly computer engineering. ano ba ang top three?

i have a friend kasi who will be entering college this year and he's seriously considering UST.. im a thomasian myself but im not entirely sure kung ok ba talaga College of Engineering sa Uste. and is it true na yung Information Management (or something like that) was transferred to the College of Eng? If so, ano ba ang tawag sa kanya?

[camerlengo]

up or ateneo

if you have money and your son likes basketball games
mag dlsu ka

[twerpy_craphead]

Thank you for all those who replied. Lalo na doon sa mga gusto talaga makatulong sa mga sagot nila. Muchas Gracias.

Sorry ha, wala ako intention mag-bash or whatever. Honest to goodness question lang. Ako kasi sa College of the Holy Spirit ako nag-graduate ng accounting eh. very good student naman ako. Noong naghanap na ako ng work nahirapan ako kasi prefer ng employers noon eh graduate ng UP, Ateneo or La Salle. Bias sila baga.

My son does not know yet what course he intends to take pero leaning siya ng konti sa computer science, engineering (computer or industrial) or architecture or pre-med. Dami no? Di pa niya talaga alam ang gusto niya.

He is a varsity swimmer in his high school and if papalarin we would like to take advantage of that sa papasukan niyang school- may discount ba or lower ang upcat passing score or something?

I definitely cannot afford to send him abroad. And besides tinanong ko siya kung gusto niya (dahil balak kong ipangutang kung sakaling sumagot ng oo - pero diko kaya *** Stanford kungdi Sonoma State University lang), ayaw niya, sagot sakin "I want to give the Philippines a try".

So kung engineering - UP
kung com science ba eh La Salle??? of UP din?
kung pre-med - UP
kung architecture - wala sa ateneo di ba?

sa April mag rereview na siya sa AHEAD (ok ba dun?) ng UPCAT. Pero he will take all the entrance exams of the 3 schools.

:)



if it's engineering = it's either UP and La Salle, or UST
Computer Science = it's La Salle and UP (sorry but Ateneo aint good enough for me)
Pre-med (BS Biology and BS Human Biology are premed degree programs, right?) = UP, La Salle, or UST
Architecture = UP or UST

[twerpy_craphead]

up or ateneo

if you have money and your son likes basketball games
mag dlsu ka



^di pa ba maka-let go sa pagkatalo sa UAAP? :glee:

[Ultra_MegaStar]

If you have the money and your son has the brains, send your son to the best school in the Philippines, the ATENEO.

If you can't afford it but your son has the brains, your son can apply for a scholarship in Ateneo. If he fails to get a scholarship in Ateneo, UP is not a bad fallback.

If you have the money but your son is not that bright, then send your son to DLSU or its sister school, CSB.

[camerlengo]

pwede rin pala sa Benilde
DLSU = Benilde
so doble ka pa niyan
UAAP and NCAA

[Dacs]

If your son has the brains, send your son to the most prestigious school in the Philippines, teh University of the Philippines.

If your son didn't pass the UPCAT, and you have the moolah, teh Ateneo is not a bad fallback.

(I won't comment on DLSU/CSB)


Good luck! BTW, lumabas na pala result ng UPCAT. Musta naman?

[MacTurd]

[no sarcasm]

Seriously speaking, we'll all go through life only once. So why not splurge a little and send your son to the best school in the land, the ATENEO. If that's beyond his or your capability, UP is not that bad naman. I've met some bright UPians too, but there are definitely more in Loyola.

[mac_bolan00]

do you really want your son to rub elbows and take cold showers with someone like green_turd? :lol:

[Thoma§]

biases aside, which school is the best in engineering? particularly computer engineering. ano ba ang top three?

i have a friend kasi who will be entering college this year and he's seriously considering UST.. im a thomasian myself but im not entirely sure kung ok ba talaga College of Engineering sa Uste. and is it true na yung Information Management (or something like that) was transferred to the College of Eng? If so, ano ba ang tawag sa kanya?
we call it the "faculty" of engineering because it was founded in the spanish era (the latter part of it).

anyway, yeah, IM transfered from the college of science to the faculty of engineering because the engineering building has more space now. architecture and fine arts left the building and transfered to the beato angelico just recently.

[Dacs]

^^ :D :D :D

[Thoma§]

^^ :rolleyes:

[simoen]

here's my 2 cents :

i have realized that the name of one's school / university doesn't determine success.
most of the time, people enroll in up, ateneo or la salle because of the prestige that goes with it. it's like being part of this elite group. but that's it. nothing more, nothing less. so, my suggestion is to choose the school that best fits your budget and ask your son where he wants to study. most kids that age choose the same school their friends would go to. just remember, as a parent, it is your duty to guide your son. let him make his own decision.

[Ventada]

Help naman oh! My son is now in finishing his third year of high school. This summer magrereview na siya for the UPCAT pero di pa rin namin alam kung saan mas maganda- UP, LA SALLE or ATENEO. I had my MBA at LA SALLE but budget wise I prefer UP, kaso pano kung si siya lumusot sa UPCAT. Bright naman siya eh. HELP! :eyecrazy:

I believe this to be a very serious question and the result of your decision and your son's may have an adverse effect on his future.

First you have to realize that it is no longer true that the school counts first while the course is only secondary. It is useless to graduate from UP, La Salle, or ATeneo if your son wants to become a magazine writer for Summit Media (for example) if he graduated from AB Humanities. The number of Mass Communication graduates from UP, ATeneo, and La Salle alone far exceeds the limited vacancies in the limited number of PHilippine magazine firms. (Not counting the many more graduates of AB Literature, Ab Journalism, etc.)

Second, its still holds true that the school counts but given your son is in the right course. There are far too much supply of fresh college graduates compared to the demand for new employees. The supply of jobs available is not enough to accomodate the graduates of UP, Ateneo, and La Salle alone.

Third, consider your son's capability and LUCK in passing the entrance examination. For example, he wants to take up law and he didn't make it to UP or ATeneo, UST is not a bad choice. A UST law graduate is more qualified than an AB Developmental Studies of La Salle right? Kahit gaano pa kagaling magdala ng business attire yung taga La Salle.

I'm basing my advice to you on experience. I've been applying for writing and marketing positions for the past 7 years but in vain. Tinatalo ako ng BSC Marketing and AB Communications graduates. I'm from La Salle but my course is AB International STudies, a course far unrelated to the positions I want. I'm turning 30 and I don't think any company would accept someone in that age with no RELEVANT EXPERIENCE. I'm gonna have to bear with jobs that Im not interested but have experience on. You'll never get promoted if you don't like your job in the first place.

I have classmate in MS Marketing - DLSU. Graduate lang siya ng STC pero BS Commerce. Ngayon Events Manager na siya ng Unilever and she's only 24. Kasi tama yung course niya. It got her the experience she needs.

School Counts but the first step is the right course. AFter all, having a direction is a universal rule.

If I were you, UP na lang. ITs far better than La Salle or ATeneo.

I'm a graduate of DLSU by the way... BS and MS.

[Dacs]

^^ :rolleyes:

That was for mac_bolan00's post. I didn't notice the post just after him.

[Thoma§]

my post was accomplished at 2:46 AM (PEX time) and you posted those smilies at 2:52 AM. That's a six-minute difference and you still did not notice my post after macbolan00's post?

[Dacs]

I don't wanna make an arguement over this one, but if you can notice, my post was posted on the second page of this thread. Tell me, is there a way for me to check for any posts that might have been posted before mine but was included on the previous page?

And besides, I don't have any reason to bash you, not that I care anyway.

PEACE :)

[Ventada]

Pahabol lang, consideration din yung upbrining ng son mo Fuschia. Companies also look at character. Yun lang ang advantage ng La Salle and ATeneo, their graduates posses the character most companies are looking for. UP, depende kung galing sa magandang high school like La Salle, Xavier, Southridge, etc.

At huwag ka magpapadala sa sinasabi ng maraming tao na depende sa tao yon, hindi sa school. Its the other way around. Good schools will train your son to cope with cut-throat competition in the workplace. Then again, the course of course will have to come first. Also, your son may get the right course but with substandard training (academically and character-wise), the diploma he will get will be nothing but a piece of paper.

[paralusi]

is there something wrong with ventada's keyboard?

[haiya]

besides the course, i do believe you should also consider the principles and values the institution upholds...

yes, some schools may give the best ACADEMIC education... but ano namang nangyayari sa moral lives nila...

although of course it's not solely dependednt on the institution's efforts, kailangan gustohin rin ng anak mo... but constant exposure to that leads to better chances of living a moral and principled life.

kasi kahit naman gaano siya kagaling, kung nag-lalag naman ang pagkatao niya... ano pang kwenta ng buhay niya... in the long run, will he be happy?

not only that, i do believe it's also important to choose a school kung saan matutulak talaga siyang mag-aral... kasi kahit matalino pa lahat ng kasama niya, tamad naman... mas malaki possibility na magiging tamad na rin siya...

sorry for being preachy...
buti was jsut imagining myself with a kid and what kind of education i'd want for my kid...

[blueSUCKS!]

besides the course, i do believe you should also consider the principles and values the institution upholds...

yes, some schools may give the best ACADEMIC education... but ano namang nangyayari sa moral lives nila...

although of course it's not solely dependednt on the institution's efforts, kailangan gustohin rin ng anak mo... but constant exposure to that leads to better chances of living a moral and principled life.

kasi kahit naman gaano siya kagaling, kung nag-lalag naman ang pagkatao niya... ano pang kwenta ng buhay niya... in the long run, will he be happy?

not only that, i do believe it's also important to choose a school kung saan matutulak talaga siyang mag-aral... kasi kahit matalino pa lahat ng kasama niya, tamad naman... mas malaki possibility na magiging tamad na rin siya...

sorry for being preachy...
buti was jsut imagining myself with a kid and what kind of education i'd want for my kid...
do you honestly go to Harvard or Oxford to get those things or you go there because you want to get quality education?

pang high school yang style mo. you're already in college...so grow up, kid!

[haiya]

i remember being tamad since i was in grade school... i did manage to get "okay" grades... but in college...

dear... parang i need to work hard to pass... natulak talaga ako para mag-aral... naging tambayan ko lib (but don't get me wrong minsan naman may social life ako...) but the thing is, nagign priority ko talaga school... i guess kasi ganun din un mga tao sa paligid ko...

na dumating ako sa point na gustong-gusto ko talgang nag-aaral... may "slacker nights" ako but my passion for studying really developed...

i guess yung curriculum din ng school ko was okay... talagang i discovered myself more... will all the character-forming courses i took (although i used to complain that they are unnecessary), narealize ko kung ano yung importante sa buhay ko... it's not jsut about getting a job that will make him earn money, but it's really about finding his vocation in life...

[haiya]

im done with colelge...

maybe i'm just idealistic, but so what?

i don't see why people have to end college by being really "realistic" (but really they're just pessimistic)...

idealism is very important...

idealism does not mean you're not in touch with reality.. it's really knowing your limitations but still having the alacrity to do waht you can... what you want to do...

i don't think that it's a very "high school" thing to say... because i do know people who graduated fr supposedly good schools but now they're just so unaware of the social realities na ang dami na nilang natatapakan... hindi nila naiintindihan kung anong importante sa buhay...

kaya ngayon... immature pa sila... successful nga... immature namna... hindi na nag-grow... utak lang... walng totoong pag-iisip...

and yes i would go to "good schools" because of quality education...
because for me "quality education" means holistic formation... kasama na dun yung principles and values na makukuha ko after 4 or so years in college...

[Ventada]

i remember being tamad since i was in grade school... i did manage to get "okay" grades... but in college...

dear... parang i need to work hard to pass... natulak talaga ako para mag-aral... naging tambayan ko lib (but don't get me wrong minsan naman may social life ako...) but the thing is, nagign priority ko talaga school... i guess kasi ganun din un mga tao sa paligid ko...

na dumating ako sa point na gustong-gusto ko talgang nag-aaral... may "slacker nights" ako but my passion for studying really developed...

i guess yung curriculum din ng school ko was okay... talagang i discovered myself more... will all the character-forming courses i took (although i used to complain that they are unnecessary), narealize ko kung ano yung importante sa buhay ko... it's not jsut about getting a job that will make him earn money, but it's really about finding his vocation in life...

Agree. Some school cultures have a bad attitude towards studies. "Mas bobo ka mas cool ka". I went to a high school with this kind of thinking. But when I went to college, I had a culture shock with the coolest people striving to become intellectuals (or sound intellectual at least). The common reply to this way of thinking by other people is "kasalanan mo, bakit ka nagpadala". But remember, those teenage (and post-teenage) years are peer-based. Unless may sarili kang mundo.

[Tmac_1]

we call it the "faculty" of engineering because it was founded in the spanish era (the latter part of it).

anyway, yeah, IM transfered from the college of science to the faculty of engineering because the engineering building has more space now. architecture and fine arts left the building and transfered to the beato angelico just recently.

sorry, i forgot. faculty of eng nga pala tawag dun!

ah, so under na pala sya ng Eng. kamusta naman standard nya? is it good? mas better ba sya sa DLSU, Admu, etc.?

[master_keeper]

The good reputations of DLSU, ADMU and UP were built across the years through the general public's experiences in dealing with the products of the said schools. Based on experience, the graduates of those schools (O.K., there are exceptions too) are the ones who could comprehend complex concepts and really handle projects until their successful completion. You can also give products of the said schools tasks or problems and they can come up with solid solutions and courses of action without going "duh" like a lot of products of other schools I have encountered.

DLSU, UP or ADMU are great choices. If your child is a product of one of these schools, there is a greater chance that his or her career would be on a good path. I personally believe na may magagaling na produkto din ang mga ibang skul, pero kapag galing sa "Big 3", halos 90% na sigurado ka na ang tao ay madaling maka "gets" at may utak kahit kaunti.

[markanthonychan]

It doen't matter kung saang school. That thing is only second on which the character and intellect of the student is number one. Ano bang course ang preferred ng anak mo?

[Ventada]

It doen't matter kung saang school. That thing is only second on which the character and intellect of the student is number one. Ano bang course ang preferred ng anak mo?

I beg to disagree. Employers hire on first impression basis. Thus will look at your course then at your school. ONe needs to work with a person for weeks or even months to know a persons character, intellect, and work attitude. The school counts but it doest end there. You must have the right course, then the right attitude and character. That's how competitive it is out there.

[master_keeper]

O.K. ... Let's say may Amerikanong nagtayo ng kumpanya sa Pinas at sa una ay "school blind" kung mag-hire (meaning hindi niya alam yung "UP, DLSU, ADMU" na preference ng mga matatagal na sa Pinas).

I'm sure kahit anong "fairness" pa ang pairalin niya, after experiencing dealing with products of the different schools, he/she would eventually narrow down his/her preferences to those three schools. Especially for key positions (kasi clerical or "gofer" slots can be handled by the others).

Pansin ko lang kasi, karamihan sa mga hindi galing sa UP, DLSU or ADMU ay hindi alam ang mga gagawin kapag walang "gumagabay" o nag-didirect na ibang tao sa kanila (na taga DLSU, ADMU, UP or isang marunong gumamit ng utak na non-"big 3" product. Medyo bihira lang nga maka encounter nito to tell you honestly. Example niyan ay si Henry Sy).

For example (totoong naranasan ko to), sa isang research kapag nag assign ka ng task sa isang taga non-"Big 3" aba ay tatanungin pa kung saan kukuha ng data at papaano ika-quantify o kahit nga i-identify ang mga inpormasyon na kailangan nilang ipunin.

Kapag inassign mo naman yun sa isang taga U.P., Ateneo or DLSU, ang kailangan mo na lang gawin ay ang sarili mong trabaho ng hindi naiistorbo at mamaya maya andyan na ang maganda at useful na report.

Madali din umintindi ang mga produkto ng "big 3" at hindi mo na kailanga ng pagkahirap-hirap at pagka haba-habang explanasyon to get your points across. Basta mag explain ka lang... boom! naintndihan na.

[Moro-moro]

sana lang may ipasa ang anak mo mga iskwelahang nabanggit. san ba sya nag-aaral ngayong hayskul??

alamin nyo muna kung anu gusto nya kunin, at kung anung klaseng pag-iisip at ugali meron sya at ng mga taong gusto nyang makasalamuha. importante ito dahil mas makakakapag aral sya ng mabuti kung at ease sya sa environment ng school na pag aaralan nya. kung saan, kahit ano pa man sa mga eskwelahang iyan ang pasukan nya, kung considered ang mga factors na ito, e mas mapapabuti nya ang pinaka-importanteng factor ang sarili nyang sikap!!!

favorite ba nya sa math? malamang gustuhin nya ang eng'g(sa UP/UST dapat), comp. courses (sa DLSU), physics(sa UP), chem(sa UST)..

kung mahusay sya sa science (sa UST) or mga medical related courses ang naisin nya (sana pumasa sya ng UPm)

kung mahilig syang magsulat, magbasa, magsalita, ng...
kung anu-ano(mag ADMU sya, kaya nyo naman ata tuition)
seryosong mga bagay-bagay(UP lang)
sa language courses(DSU)

baka naman gusto nyang mag-law after 4 yrs, pumili sya ng gusto nyang pre-law jan tapos gudlak sa kanya sa UP-LAE (kasi minsan kahit cum laude ng UP bagsak pa rin sa 2nd take na kahit naka-isang sem na ng LAW sa ADMU...)

maghilig sa arts? UST at UP lang may future jan..
sa music? mas magaling ang UST sa UP

gudlak!!!

[Limasawa]

Kung Bobo anak mo, no choice. UST and lesser schools na lang. Magnursing na lang siya sa UST or Perpetual, baka sakaling maka-immigrate sa U.S.!

[zacharaiolsen]

Kung Bobo anak mo, no choice. UST and lesser schools na lang. Magnursing na lang siya sa UST or Perpetual, baka sakaling maka-immigrate sa U.S.!


kundi ka ba naman utak-ebak, alam mo, na sa buong ASYA, sa UST pinaka mahirap makapasok ng NURSING. :depressed: baka ikaw mismo hindi makapasok

wanna prove it urslf? i dare you to take the qualifying written and physical exams. :crazytongue:

[Hisbenz]

Kung Bobo anak mo, no choice. UST and lesser schools na lang. Magnursing na lang siya sa UST or Perpetual, baka sakaling maka-immigrate sa U.S.!
ang hirap kasi ng mga tao dito, puro dakdak! tsk. i wonder what's your personality sa totoong buhay.

[Limasawa]

Oh bakit may mga UST dito? Top schools lang ang tinatanong ng threadstarter. Hindi kasama lesser schools, mga TRYING HARD, at FEELING.

[Hisbenz]

at least as for now, may maipagmamalaiki kami. ikaw, puros Tae, ebak, walang kwenta

ang alam mo lang gumawa ng mga alternick na naninira ng schools? kung magharap harap kaya tayo noh?

wala ka bang ginagawa sa buhay mo? pwede pa kung wala kang masabing matino, spare people na kahit papaano maayos ang pag-uusap naman dito. o kaya totally leave internet. wala ka anamng kwenta eh

sensya na people, nakakairita kasi tong taga ateneo DAW na to.

[Limasawa]

at least as for now, may maipagmamalaiki kami. ikaw, puros Tae, ebak, walang kwenta

ang alam mo lang gumawa ng mga alternick na naninira ng schools? kung magharap harap kaya tayo noh?

wala ka bang ginagawa sa buhay mo? pwede pa kung wala kang masabing matino, spare people na kahit papaano maayos ang pag-uusap naman dito. o kaya totally leave internet. wala ka anamng kwenta eh

sensya na people, nakakairita kasi tong taga ateneo DAW na to.

At feeling niyo naman Ateneo ang bumabanat sa UST. Bakit archrival ba ang UST at Ateneo?

Magharap? Bakit sasaksakin mo ako ng ice pick? hahaha! Huwag na noh, eh di natulungan lang kita na makita itay mo sa munti.

Senya na people, kaasar lang kasi tong mga USTians/Tumasyans (ay sossy daw pala sila dapat "Thomasians").

Mga feeling kasi, baluktot naman mga dila pag nagsama-sama sa ARaneta.

[Thoma§]

Tell me, is there a way for me to check for any posts that might have been posted before mine but was included on the previous page?

I don't know but i do know that whenever i am threadstarter (appearing on the next page) i still read the posts before me even if i've already posted and again, it's a six-minute difference.

PEACE. :)

[Limasawa]

^ Typical ...

Paano magiging Truly Asia ang UST eh puro Africans doon?

[Krazie_bone]

^ Typical ...

Paano magiging Truly Asia ang UST eh puro Africans doon?

s_exchange is not from ust....

btw, i saw your reply on the thread "My take on why parents should not enrol their kids in schools like UP, ADMU and DLSU ",..................

"While the rest of us wait for that lucky break, the rest of us will feel good bashing other schools and hard selling our alma mater to convince ourselves that we studied in the right institution."

so, were you able to accomplish this objective? I hope that you're already satisfied and convinced that you have indeed studied in the "right" institution.

Btw, try not to be redundant next time.

[Limasawa]

One of those days, Krazie_bone, when you feel good about everything and don't feel like bashing ... 'til triggered by spontaneous combustion from the mediocrity of Truly Asian school spirit. See you around! 'till the next rush of angst...

[lucent1425]

hay naku si Limasawa, pati dito nanggugulo, Lasalista talaga, mga mababang uri ng tao, pasaway talaga.

tingnan mo yung isa mong thread, closed kagad kasi puro bashing lang ang alam mo, pwede huwag kang masyadong FEELING, mahina naman IQ mo (meron nga ba ???? )


:crazytongue:

[Bazooka_Joe]

champion pa din ang "Ateneo, the best school in ALL ASIA" :glee:

[Bazooka_Joe]

mangagaya lang sila mali pa! how can ateneo be the "best school in ALL ASIA" when it is UST that is the Royal and Pontifical school of all ASIA, the Catholic School in all ASIA and most specially, the oldest in all ASIA?

UST, truly the best, truly the oldest, TRULY ASIA!

^^
oh my, oh my... si ImpecIbble Atenean grammar-guru nagbalik. :D
the refuseS of pex are back.

:blowsmoke:

[Bright_Blue]

if you have the money and the brain, go to the ATENEO, the best and most ENVIED school in the land. even in never never land.

;)

[Bright_Blue]

^^
oh my, oh my... si ImpecIbble Atenean grammar-guru nagbalik. :D
the refuseS of pex are back.

:blowsmoke:

t@nga! mga taga UST (at lasalle) ang refuses of society. :crazytongue:




One Big Fight!

[MTC_Caloocan]

bahala na yang anak mo... teach him to be independent

[tidus1203]

ay nako dumating naman ang epitome ng corruption at pagnanakaw (mga Taenista) dito sa PEx. Mahiya nga kayo ang yayaman ninyo nakaw pa din kayo ng nakaw sa gobyerno at sa taong bayan.

[rock101]

the thread starter only mentioned the big3... pero eto na na namam ang mga uste, nkksingit na naman.. i respect ur school pero ba't ba lgi kayong nkkisingit? evrywhere here in pex kahit hindi dapat mksali ang mga uste eh nkksingit pa rin, ust is the best daw, the oldest, royal... nkkairita!

[Paris CAC]

All three universities have very good academic reputation. You need to consider nga pala kung anong course ang gustong kunin ng anak mo, coz may kani-kanyang forte ang UP, Ateneo at La Salle. Dito mo i-base kung saan dapat mag-aral ang anak mo.

[Stirling]

All three universities have very good academic reputation. You need to consider nga pala kung anong course ang gustong kunin ng anak mo, coz may kani-kanyang forte ang UP, Ateneo at La Salle. Dito mo i-base kung saan dapat mag-aral ang anak mo.
anong forte ng UP?

[intensity1214.]

which are nothing compared to the nakakangilo-sa-ngiping "REFUSES."

:)

[bleh]

is your son into arts? does he like reading quality books or educational multimedia material ? last i checked, CSB still has the best library than any of the big 3. so, going to DLSU means your son will have access to these books. they buy new books annually and i think this is where a huge chunk of their budget goes. if your son has the initiative to learn on his own, best to send him to a place that is better equipped, di ba?

but then it all comes down to which school would admit him.

[popwinter]

they buy new books annually and i think this is where a huge chunk of their budget goes. if your son has the initiative to learn on his own, best to send him to a place that is better equipped, di ba?

but then it all comes down to which school would admit him.

the Ched mandates that 80% of the budget must go to the salary of professors/teachers.

[paralusi]

actually, it is mandated that 70 per cent of tuition increases go to increases in the faculty's salary and the rest goes to the improvement of school facilities.

[popwinter]

actually, it is mandated that 70 per cent of tuition increases go to increases in the faculty's salary and the rest goes to the improvement of school facilities.

oo nga pala; sa tuition increase pa la 'yon. sorry ha.

[sultry911]

lols @ UST "best" in ASIA...

grow up dude... daming universities, japan, china, or singapore, for sure lubog sa karimlan UST mo at ahit anu pang university ** sa pinas..... no offense.. just keepin' it real.

[voltaire_mad]

Depends on the course your child would want to enter. Check the curriculum, faculty profile, is it recognized by CHED as a center of excellence/development, and more importantly, if your child prefers that course.

Tuition, as per unit.

Location/distance from home.

Among others mentioned above.

[Krayon]

Plus, the intelligence of your child.

Better yet, let him choose himself.

[tianak_me]

Intelligence matters only for UP. If you're even considering Ateneo or Lasalle, that means you have the money for them. Go right ahead.

[Bazooka_Joe]

which are nothing compared to the nakakangilo-sa-ngiping "REFUSES."

:)


:girly: <-- planetgay.

:rotfl:

on topic: send your son to UP or DLSU. :)

[zureee]

Hi! I'm just going off to college this coming school year, but in my opinion... i think you should let your son choose. It depends on the course he wants to take up as well.

Just a lil tip:

ACET-> it isn't very hard... but bcoz of the time pressure, your son should prepare. Practice a bit... =D

UPCAT-> well... just try to prepare...a refresher course(of sorts) will do a lot to make the upcat a lil easier. It isn't that hard but bcoz of the number of items... it can get confusing at some point... so practice! :D

[pink_moon]

ateneo or UP!:) but, i think it's better to ask the son what he wants to take and where he wants to go.:)

[cortez143]

:girly: <-- planetgay.

:rotfl:

on topic: send your son to UP or DLSU. :)

i agree. if you live in QC area, eh di UP na. If you live in Manila area e di DLSU na. ganun lang dapat ang option. :glee:

[jude_dlcruz]

I'll go for UP!

[Pale Rider]

Hi! I'm just going off to college this coming school year, but in my opinion... i think you should let your son choose. It depends on the course he wants to take up as well.

Just a lil tip:

ACET-> it isn't very hard... but bcoz of the time pressure, your son should prepare. Practice a bit... =D

UPCAT-> well... just try to prepare...a refresher course(of sorts) will do a lot to make the upcat a lil easier. It isn't that hard but bcoz of the number of items... it can get confusing at some point... so practice! :D
My personal opinion: the ACET is pretty dense, a lot of material covered in a relatively short period of time. The UPCAT naman is a bit more spread out, pero nakakapagod naman kasi mahaba. Kinda like comparing a sprint to a marathon. Both are challenging in different ways. So it'll depend on the kid's ability to adjust to the exam setup. :)

[MacTurd]

If your son has the brains, Ateneo is the best choice.

[tianak_me]

Choose Ateneo. No other school let's you enter just because you chose them. Beware the UPCAT.

[MacTurd]

UP is not a bad fallback if your son does not make it to the Ateneo. Just beware of criminals who are lurking around (eg stabbing incidents, rape, hold up, etc.).

[extranjero]

better let him choose for himself. his classmates, teachers and friends could give him very good advices more than pexers could....

[Pale Rider]

^ Yep, my thoughts exactly. :)

[karolsee]

Im currently incoming first year college and I just had that problem. The thing I've noticed with people though.. Once you pass UP, why not! the thing is.. It's not easy to get into UP. As for Ateneo and Lasalle, it depends what course he'll take because they're both great in their own fields.

[jude_dlcruz]

First, let him choose his interests. Then, look for the university that suits him best. But, if you'll ask me kung alin sa dalawang schools, I better choose UP over Ateneo. Why? Low tuition but assured ka namang magandang education ang makukuha mo.

[dalawa_puso_ko]

Choose Ateneo or Lasalle. Leave UP out of these "choose" threads. It (UP) is only for people who are really qualified and want to learn.

[jude_dlcruz]

dalawa_puso_ko...sobra ka naman..ha ha ha

[MacTurd]

Ateneo is the best in terms of environment and academics. UP is not that bad naman, however, choose UP only if you're willing to risk your son's life. Stabbing incidents are quite common there. As for DLSU, send our son there if he's good in sports and allergic to studying.

[xybert_22]

if engineering bakit mo p ipapadala *** anak mo sa mga univ n yan

sa MIT 4 yirs lang engr na anak mo

[JJM]

Kung humanities, arts and law - UP then ateneo

kung business - UP then la salle

kung medicine and related courses - UP then UST



UP is always the first choice. :)

[will_stayed]

UP is not a bad fallback if your son does not make it to the Ateneo. Just beware of criminals who are lurking around (eg stabbing incidents, rape, hold up, etc.).

but how does one tell the student from the criminal?

[MacTurd]

^ ^ Tough one. They all look the same over there. :lol:

[siLent_xiii]

ok naman lahat... UP , ateneo, La Salle ..nasa anak mo kung anong gusto niya...

saka hindi lang puro sports sa La Salle... trimestral po sila hindi pwdeng tutunganga lang at walang gagawin..kelangan mo ring mag-aral ... wala namang may gusto magkaroon ng grade na 0.0 db?!

[sue_mo!]

why is uap left out?

you should chooseamong the top four phil universities.

[Red_Wolf]

^UAP? depende pa rin sa gusto ng anak mo...and most especially, if the parents can even afford-as in AFFORD!- yung tuition nilang tumatagingting.

[cHiLLsTeR]

APC? whehehehehe!!!

[Hungry Necro]

If your son wants to take up computer and engineering courses, send him to DLSU. If he wants to take up humanities and business courses, send him to ADMU. If he wants to take up health courses, send him to UST. If he wants to take up science courses, send him to UP. I want to say to you that if you can afford to send your son to universities other than UP, send him there because sending him to other universities would open a very important slot to another university bound student who cannot afford to study in other universities. :)

[mac_bolan00]

but that other student will be less qualified. that won't serve the purpose. if you're raising your kid to be a typical DRK, better send him to ateneo.

[COMIX]

If your son wants to take up computer and engineering courses, send him to DLSU. If he wants to take up humanities and business courses, send him to ADMU. If he wants to take up health courses, send him to UST. If he wants to take up science courses, send him to UP. I want to say to you that if you can afford to send your son to universities other than UP, send him there because sending him to other universities would open a very important slot to another university bound student who cannot afford to study in other universities. :)
:glee: :glee: :glee:

[tyrambo]

You know, you're not going anywhere asking around people in open forums on what school your son should go to. People would definitely push their alma maters through, and you're definitely not going to get anything relevant from that.

Based from experience (as I was, and a bunch of my friends as well were, in a state of pre-college confusion), this is what any parent should do:

1) I think, I THINK, it would be better to decide on where your son will go after the results of the entrance exams come out. Don't pressure him on choices yet, or better, don't talk about it too much. Baka mabigo. And that'll just kill 'em. Make him take 4 entrance exams (narrowed down potential schools).

2) Find out what courses your son wants first, and then ask people who've graduated from those schools IN THOSE COURSES for opinion. Never ask a car mechanic for medical advice. Neither should you consult a doctor for car problems. Do not force your son to go to a school, instead, advice him. Maybe a little hinting is okay, though, hehe.

3) Go see the schools for yourself first. Browse around the area. Is it conducive to learning? Or alcoholism?

4) Proximity is always an issue, whether in commuting or in driving. If your son is going to be too tired to go to school when he reaches the campus, scratch it. Unless you have other boarding options for him.

5) If you or your son listen for opinion on schools ("La Salle is for dolts and bunnies" "Ateneo is for empty-headed snobs" "UP breeds corruption and murderers," to name a few), your son will end up in a dumpster, because as far as I know, nobody can say anything about the academic influence of dumpsters. Open your mind on praise and close your mind to bad opinions.

Iyon lang. Good luck to your son.

[br0m0thymoLbLuE]

Ang alam ko kasi itong dilemma na to nangyayari lang sa mga incoming college students who passed entrance exams of 2 or more schools that's why they are seeking for opinions and/or ideas to help them choose what's the best for them. Kung pinasa nya lahat, then good, proceed with the "survey". Kung hindi, oh well. there are still 100+ universities to choose from. Isipin muna nya kung san sya mag-eentrance exam, (considering his competency for these exams) hindi yung saan agad mag-aaral.

:D

[TypeRman]

ang bababaw ng mga tao dito...pati school pa pinagtataluhan...namimili lang *** member ng school ...hindi maghanap ng pintas sa bawat school....=)

sana gawing constructive *** suggestions para di maguluhan *** nagtatanong....


sakin naman papiliin nyo sya with your guidance=) alamin nyo din kung ano *** posibilities na gusto nya.... wag sana syang mapresure nyo na pumili kasi baka magbulakbol lang yan o mapagod sa kakaaral....=)

if di ganun kagenius *** anak nyo...*** average performer sya sa school..kung practicality naman sa choices ng course....

UA&P siguro kaso nga lang mejo mahal ata tuition fee..
i like their courses =)

nga pala im a lasallian=)

[sue_mo!]

why isn't ust listed?

ok naman daw sila a.