GIVE 1 ALUMNI OF YOUR SCHOOL THAT YOUR SO PROUD OF! AND WHY? [Archive]

dominicus

Jul 11, 2000, 10:34 PM

I think Rizal is more of a Thomasian than Atenean. It was Santo Tomas which granted the high school diploma of Rizal and an AB degree. Moreover, Rizal spent five years in UST to take up Law and Medicine.

Rizal was indeed an alumnus of UST having obtained his AB degree and advance courses in Medical Science.

Other Thomasian Alumni (taken from the UST Alumni Directory):

1. St. Antonio Gonzalez, O.P.
2. St. Domingo Ibanez de Erquicia, O.P.
3. St. Lucas del Espiritu Santo, O.P.
4. St Guillaume Courtet, O.P.
5. St. Jose Ma. Diaz Sanjurjo, O.P.
6. St. Thomas Hoiji De San Jacinto, O.P.
7. St. Vincent Liem de la Paz, O.P.
8. St. Domingo Henares, O.P.
9. St. Pedro Almato, O.P.
10. Emilio Jacinto, Apolinario Mabini, Marcelo del Pilar, Fr. Jose Burgos, Fr. Gomez, Antonio Luna, Rafael Palma, Cayetano Arellano, Sergio Osmena, Claro Recto, Jose Laurel

11. Leon Maria Guererro, Victorino Mapa, Felipe Agoncillo, Jose Ma. Panganiban, Antonio Regidor, Felipe Calderon

12. National Artist Leandro V. Locsin, Sr.
13. Victorio Edades (national artist?)
14. Washington Sycip
15. Teodoro Valencia
16. Neal Cruz
17. Teodoro Benigno
18. Teodoro Locsin, Sr.
19. Alejandro Roces
20. Zenaida Amador
21. Sen. Kit Tatad
22. Andres Narvasa
23. Ninez Cacho Olivarez, Joe Guevarra, Rina Jimenez David, Eugenia Apostol, Ben F. Rodriguez, Amado Macasaet, Jullie Daza, Alejandro del Rosario, Recah Trinidad, Ramon Francisco, Lito Zulueta

24. Bienvenido Lumbera, Cirilo Bautista, Cristina Hidalgo. Wendell Capili, J. Neil Garcia, OPHELIA DIMALANTA, F. Sionil Jose, the Anonuevo siblings, Mike Corroza, V.E. Carmelo Nadera, Rolando Tinio, Rogelio Sicat, classmate Lourd de Veyra, Ramil Gulle, Naty Crame Rogers,

25. Issay Alvarez, Jamie Rivera, Carlo Orosa, Bernardo Bernardo, Ali Sotto, Barbara Perez,

CEOs, diplomats, deans and professors from UP, educators from Ateneo, La Salle, bishops, priests, professionals all over the world...exhaustible, simply exhaustible!

rao

Jul 11, 2000, 11:04 PM

lean alejandro

rao

Jul 11, 2000, 11:08 PM

1 alumni? how could that be?
the last time i heard, alumni is the plural of alumnus
if UST changed it, will you please let us know?

Rockgardener

Jul 12, 2000, 01:05 AM

Rizal more a Thomasian than an Atenean?
...please ...
That's not what HE said...

dominicus

Jul 12, 2000, 01:51 AM

for Rockgardener:

I knew it!

So what did Rizal say about my Alma Mater?

I presume you would cite the lies of some historians who refused to acknowledge historical proofs about Rizal's stay in UST.

No. Rizal had a happy life in Santo Tomas contrary to what Zaide, Coates, and a handful historians there. Although, not a historian, Marilu Diaz Abaya belongs to these people who rewrote history.

If those historians, including youself made efforts to visit the UST Archives and look the original documents there, you would have found out that Rizal was not treated shabbily by the Dominicans because he was an "indio". How could that be?

Rizal was granted permission by the Dominicans to enrol in both Law and Medicine, a special favor granted but to a few students. They would have also learned that Rizal had Dominican friends like Fray Evaristo Arias. These would have rid them of the misconception that Rizal was unhappy at UST because we was "persecuted and scorned by the Dominicans."

More than a century later, historians, including Rockgardener still seem unable to remove themselves from the ambience of the historical era in which Rizal and the propagandists thrived.

Now, I presume to back their claim, they would point to the anti-friar writings of the Filipino expatriates (Rizal, Lopez jaena, del Pilar) to show that Rizal and the indio students were persecuted in Santo Tomas. They failed to contextualize/deduce such writings in the factional clash at that time between liberalism and medievalism, underscored when the Pope during that time issued encyclicals against secularism and modernism.

They failed to see that such encyclicals were bound to be upheld by UST which was under ROYAL and POTIFICAL patronage and some kind of a veritable Ministry of Education at that time (thus Rizal's high schoold diploma was not granted by Ateneo but by UST).

If they were any knowledgeable about history they would have realized that the attacks thrown at UST by the propagandists was not exclusive to Santo Tomas since just about every European university, notably OXFORD, was accused by the liberals of obscurantism and medievalism for upholding Church orthodoxy.

Remember in World history that in Europe, in the years following the reformation and especially the French revolution, there was a marked severance of ties of universities with the Church? These universities had been catholic, and often papal foundations.

As such the attacks against UST by Rizal and the propagandists were part and parcel of the highly polemical ambience of that historical era. They should not be made bases to conclude that Rizal and other Thomasians led unhappy lives at UST.

Just think what will happen if UST fails to survive during those years. Despite the development, she remains faithful to her indetity as a catholic university, her teaching continues to be imbued with catholic principles.

To prove my claime, invite you to visit the UST Archives and see all the original documents that pertain to the life of Rizal in UST and other Thomasian revolutionaries.

I will write an article on this issue, featuring the UST Archives, which will come out in a leading national daily broadsheet.

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Rockgardener

Jul 12, 2000, 03:54 AM

so..
you read Dr. Fidel Villarroel's book...

very good...

now...are you saying that the bachelors
degree Rizal received from Ateneo in 1876 was..what..?..faked?

you omit the fact that Rizal finished
medicine at the Unibersidad Central
De Madrid ( not UST ) in 1885...

and continued with his graduate studies
in Paris, France, then Heidelberg, Germany.

but hey...you've got these UST archives..

Rockgardener

Jul 12, 2000, 04:14 AM

and no one denies the fact that
Rizal spent time at UST....

but these facts that you mention in
the archives...isn't there the slightest
chance that these were entered in
posthumously?....... especially when we were under American rule?...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

It's definitely hard to say.

crispypata

Jul 12, 2000, 08:29 AM

Roselle Nava http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

vinncho

Jul 12, 2000, 09:18 PM

Some outstanding and successful De La Salle Alumni are:

WW2 pilot/hero Jesus Villamor - after whom the Villamor Air Base (formerly Nichols) was named after
BID Commissioner Rufus Rodriguez
RCBC CEO Alfonso Yuchengco
Philamlife CEO Jose Cuisia
PHINMA CEO Ramon del Rosario Sr.
Solidbank CEO Deogracias Vistan
Asian Institute of Management President Roberto de Ocampo
JG Summit CEO John Gokongwei Sr.
Globe Telecom President Gerardo Ablaza Jr.
Ortigas & Co. CEO Francisco Ortigas Jr.
RFM CEO Jose Concepcion III
Asian Bank CEO Ramon del Rosario Jr.
Luisita CEO Pedro Cojuangco
Carlos J. Valdes Auditors CEO Carlos J. Valdes
Lhuillier CEO Henri Lhuillier
Aboitiz Shipping CEO Juan Aboitiz
Negros Navigation CEO Daniel Lacson
Concepcion Industries CEO Raul Concepcion
DM Consunji CEO David M. Consunji
Golangco CEO William Golangco
Triple V/Subic Bay Yacht Club CEO Vic-Vic Villavicencio
Seven-Eleven CEO Vicente Paterno
McDonalds CEO George Yang
Fil-Estate/MRT CEO Robert John Sobrepena
Mondragon/Mimosa CEO Jose Antonio Gonzalez
Manila Int'l Container Port CEO Enrique Razon

batang uliran

Jul 12, 2000, 11:09 PM

It just seems peculiar to me that Rizal featured the Dominicans prominently in Noli but not the Jesuits. In fact Rizal remembered the Jesuits fondly mostly because of his stay in the Ateneo.

I'm neither from Ateneo nor UST but I think that while UST can lay claim to many things, calling Rizal one of your own is a bit much. I for one (and I spent 11 years in La Salle Schools from GS to HS before spending 7 years in UP) am willing to concede that the Ateneo has a stronger claim on him.

Do you folks take your alumni lists from brochures from your respective schools?

And that list of DLSU alumni - some of them have hit the skids - VicVic is now head of a bankrupt company, Sobrepena's Fil-Estate is getting there, and Mimosa/Mondragon has been insolvent for some time now. Plus many people on the list inherited their positions and it wasn't the La Sallian education that primarily propelled them into those slots.

MsAnonymous

Jul 13, 2000, 12:51 AM

I thought the topic said to list just ONE alumnus????? Just playing you guys!

BadGiRL

Jul 13, 2000, 01:06 AM

I agree that Rizal is more Atenean than Thomasian.

In the first place dominicus, don't u think that Rizal would have stayed in ATeneo if there were Law and Medicine courses being offered in Ateneo rather than go to UST.

Tsaka if he really really really cared about the dominicans and enjoyed his stay, baket sa noli sobrang special mention ang domincans sa kanilang katiwarian (right term ba? basta yung kasamaan or something like that) at kalupitan?

tsaka kahit na mas featured ang mga domincans sa noli, proud ka pa ba na tinatamaan ni rizal sila sa nobelang yun?

labo naman. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/wonder.gif

angst

Jul 13, 2000, 02:11 PM

Originally posted by elijah:
pakilinaw po kung saan kang school please...hehehehe...

UST or Ateneo

By the way UST po ako...

Kasi- pareho pong satin siya eh!

Pax et bonum.

Excuse me, you have definitely never read a credible Rizal Book. For your information, Rizal's stay in UST is far from being okay. He was discriminated upon. Why? Because he came from the Ateneo and Ateneo is managed by the Jesuits and you know that Jesuits and Dominicans are enemies.
Besides, he never finished his medicine in UST. He finished it in Madrid. So, Ateneo should lay claim to Rizal more because Rizal received a degree in Ateneo while he never received a degree in UST. And besides, his stay in Ateneo is more memorable than his stay in UST.
Okay? May I remind you to repeat your Rizal course to correct your stupid views. Okay?

Ramirez

Jul 13, 2000, 05:50 PM

One Alumnus:

Ninoy Aquino
San Beda College

If it wasn't for his death none of us Filipinos in this country would have the freedom to express our views in this forum!

"The Filipino is worth dying for!"

BTW, for all you Rizal fans, as great as he was, JPR was really a Spaniard wannabe. Check your history books.

dominicus

Jul 14, 2000, 10:18 PM

for Rockgardener:

I never said that Rizal's AB degree diploma was fake. I pointed out that it was UST which granted that degree since only that Dominican institution could grant such a diploma, acting as a Ministry of Education at that time. It's all there in Fr. Fidel Villaroel's book.

Documents at the UST Archives entered "posthumously"? - that's why I'm inviting you to visit our Archives and see those records including Rizal's grades in Ateneo.

The gist of my argument was to prove that Rizal was not scorned or ridiculed by the Dominican friars during his time at UST as alleged by many of Rizal's biographers and historians.

I think it was in Fili and not in Noli the UST was highlighted. Again, those anti-friars, anti-church remarks must be understood with Rizal's association with many rationalists thinkers and liberal figures of Spain and other countries of Europe who were all against Thomism. I have explained this.

To quote Fr Villaroel, "In sum, these ideas were at the bottom of Rizal's distasteful remarks against UST, not his past experiences as a student."

Rizal was indeed brilliant. He used the Fili as a venue to show his attitude towards his religion and uphold the ideologies he learned when he was in Europe.

In fact, the chapter in Fili ("Class in Physics") which UST was highlighted is a purely caricature and cannot represent a personal experience of Rizal, and, to be straight, not a biography of Rizal.

Rizal did not take the course of Physics in UST. He took it in Ateneo. What he took in Santo Tomas was the "Ampliacion de Fisica."

Historian John Schumacher has a more common sense in his comments when he says: "One cannot take a chapter from a novel whose principal aim was to counteract the influence of the friars on Philippine life as an impartial and objective analysis of the state of higher education in the late 19th century Philippines."

Having said, "Rizal found a very useful instrument in the caricature of Father Million and in the unpleasant atmosphere of the classroom." AGAIN, RIZAL DID NOT TAKE PHYSICS IN UST BUT IN ATENEO!

So please, those who insist that UST was unkind to Rizal, read Fr. Villaroel's book or better yet go to ARCHIVO DE UNIVERIDAD DE SANTO TOMAS!

dominicus

Jul 14, 2000, 10:30 PM

For Badgirl:

I think you did not understand my earlier post for Rockgardener. I have explained it there the reasons. Taga La Salle ka dapat magaling ka!

BadGiRL

Jul 14, 2000, 10:34 PM

Originally posted by dominicus:
For Badgirl:

Taga La Salle ka dapat magaling ka!

:confused: hmmm??? konek plis. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/wonder.gif

dominicus

Jul 14, 2000, 10:36 PM

Ikaw rin angsts. Anong libro ang credible? Pakitignan mo yung argument mo at patunayan mo na magkaaway ang mga Hesuwita at Dominikano nuong panahon ni Rizal.

THE SUN OF SAINT THOMAS AQUINAS

...the sun of his gentle countenance
rays forth, as from
some deep core, efflorescing
radix of TRUTH from which
all meanings flow - spread out
ONE BURNING SIGNIFIER!

§ínned™

Jul 15, 2000, 12:22 AM

Amen, dominicus.

§inned™

Rockgardener

Jul 15, 2000, 12:46 AM

yes..amen...
peace.

mark_mark

Jul 31, 2000, 11:08 PM

Originally posted by dominicus:
I think Rizal is more of a Thomasian than Atenean. It was Santo Tomas which granted the high school diploma of Rizal and an AB degree. Moreover, Rizal spent five years in UST to take up Law and Medicine.

Rizal was indeed an alumnus of UST having obtained his AB degree and advance courses in Medical Science.

Other Thomasian Alumni (taken from the UST Alumni Directory):

1. St. Antonio Gonzalez, O.P.
2. St. Domingo Ibanez de Erquicia, O.P.
3. St. Lucas del Espiritu Santo, O.P.
4. St Guillaume Courtet, O.P.
5. St. Jose Ma. Diaz Sanjurjo, O.P.
6. St. Thomas Hoiji De San Jacinto, O.P.
7. St. Vincent Liem de la Paz, O.P.
8. St. Domingo Henares, O.P.
9. St. Pedro Almato, O.P.
10. Emilio Jacinto, Apolinario Mabini, Marcelo del Pilar, Fr. Jose Burgos, Fr. Gomez, Antonio Luna, Rafael Palma, Cayetano Arellano, Sergio Osmena, Claro Recto, Jose Laurel

11. Leon Maria Guererro, Victorino Mapa, Felipe Agoncillo, Jose Ma. Panganiban, Antonio Regidor, Felipe Calderon

12. National Artist Leandro V. Locsin, Sr.
13. Victorio Edades (national artist?)
14. Washington Sycip
15. Teodoro Valencia
16. Neal Cruz
17. Teodoro Benigno
18. Teodoro Locsin, Sr.
19. Alejandro Roces
20. Zenaida Amador
21. Sen. Kit Tatad
22. Andres Narvasa
23. Ninez Cacho Olivarez, Joe Guevarra, Rina Jimenez David, Eugenia Apostol, Ben F. Rodriguez, Amado Macasaet, Jullie Daza, Alejandro del Rosario, Recah Trinidad, Ramon Francisco, Lito Zulueta

24. Bienvenido Lumbera, Cirilo Bautista, Cristina Hidalgo. Wendell Capili, J. Neil Garcia, OPHELIA DIMALANTA, F. Sionil Jose, the Anonuevo siblings, Mike Corroza, V.E. Carmelo Nadera, Rolando Tinio, Rogelio Sicat, classmate Lourd de Veyra, Ramil Gulle, Naty Crame Rogers,

25. Issay Alvarez, Jamie Rivera, Carlo Orosa, Bernardo Bernardo, Ali Sotto, Barbara Perez,

CEOs, diplomats, deans and professors from UP, educators from Ateneo, La Salle, bishops, priests, professionals all over the world...exhaustible, simply exhaustible!

comment lang po. ang sabi: GIVE 1. huwag niyo sanang mamasamain but i could also post as much/more than that that you have posted kung yun po ang instruction na nakalagay. again: GIVE 1. klaro?

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dominicus

Aug 1, 2000, 12:01 AM

O sige, it's your choice. Pumili ka na lang ng isa sa kanila.

sardonic wench

Aug 1, 2000, 04:18 AM

ninoy aquino and ferdinand marcos.

they're the brainiest lot i know. (napasama nga lang si marcos kay imelda.)

cashew

Aug 2, 2000, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by Light&Easy:

Mine Manuel L. Quezon
One the best brain ever produced by Sto.Thomas! Great President of the Republic! One of the Best Filipino Law Maker of all time! Great Father to his children..!
Great Alumni to his School!..
Great Citizen of his Country!....

Am very proud that his a THOMASIAN!
(Like most of past Thomasians were Great People & Great Mind not just for thy self but for others aswell!)

.......Light&Easy!........

CAN I JUST TELL YOU, EWAN KO LANG HA?
MAYBE WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY WAS ALUMNUS OR ALUMNA KASI ISA LANG SIYA.
TSK. TSK.

doomsr16

Aug 4, 2000, 09:36 PM

Dong Puno

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doomsr16

Aug 4, 2000, 09:40 PM

the late Raul Manglapus.

supakate

Aug 5, 2000, 08:44 AM

isa lang... the president himself...
PRES. JOSEPH EJERCITO ESTRADA

and to think he got bad grades when he was still here, tapos kick out pa yan ng ateneo... naging presidente lang naman ng Pilipinas... dunno why... pano pa kaya yung mga regular students... not to mention the achievers... heaven knows what they are capable of...

:)

ericklirios

Aug 11, 2000, 01:46 AM

Evelio Javier

Di katulad ng maraming nabanggit, tahimik na naglingkod at pinatay ng mga hindi matanggap na hindi siya kampi sa kanila. (Hint: pinatay siya sa Antique katatapos lang ng halalan noong Pebrero 7, 1986)

Sa lahat: Hindi ito paramihan. E, ano kung maraming maaring ilista na galing sa paaralan mo? Ikaw ano?

~moon_sabine

Aug 11, 2000, 02:52 PM

corazon aquino...

(amy perez?? esep-esep)

;)

~moon_sabine

Aug 11, 2000, 02:56 PM

corazon aquino

(amy perez? esep-esep! :lol :)

;)

Nuno

Aug 11, 2000, 11:06 PM

Lorenzo Tanada------>;embodiment of a true nationalist :cool:

frenzy

Aug 11, 2000, 11:18 PM

Elson S. Montalbo

Worked as Director and Assistant Director to some movie outfits; now working in the U.S. producing concerts.

mamangbumbero

Aug 16, 2000, 10:51 AM

Dado Banatao (http://www.mapua.org/index.jsp?ops=displaynews&id=21) - He designed, and implemented the first Ethernet in a chip. He is also a founder of three (3) Silicon Valley startups including S3 (http://www.s3.com), the video card company. He is believed to be worth US$2B.

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paralusi

Aug 16, 2000, 01:32 PM

evelio javier.

meekachicka

Aug 16, 2000, 06:32 PM

ST. THERESA'S COLLEGE!!!

corina sanchez, radah (kulay), mel tiangco, jessica zafra, ms. balongquita and myself.

do i have to explain further?

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/angel.gif

KuyaDanny

Aug 16, 2000, 09:50 PM

I took one high school subject at Jose Rizal College. Does that make me an alumnus?

If so, then I am proud of fellow alumnus Ramon Magsaysay, who recognized that leadership meant serving the people, not ruling them, and that politics really is about giving, not taking.

redeagle

Aug 16, 2000, 10:40 PM

Tru Blu Kris Aquino

Nuno

Aug 17, 2000, 07:14 PM

Originally posted by Rockgardener:
Rizal more a Thomasian than an Atenean?
...please ...
That's not what HE said...

I would have to agree....Though he did get more degrees at UST, he was an Atean by heart...
(Lasalyano ako...)

niño_r

Aug 17, 2000, 11:40 PM

ERaP!

ewewewewew

Aug 18, 2000, 01:58 AM

Charito Santos <;-------- maalaala mo *** ahehhehehe

Mochikun

Aug 24, 2000, 12:00 AM

umm.. Erap Estrada.. from Ateneo!! Hahahahaha!!!

stay

Aug 24, 2000, 02:08 AM

Joseph Ejercito! http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

real

Sep 3, 2000, 10:59 PM

I would like to correct the perception that Rizal did not finish the medical course at Santo Tomas. Rizal did, in fact, finish the medical course at UST. Only that during that time,UST was only allowed by Spain to grant the Licentiate in Medicine degree and not the the Doctorate degree because it was a new college of medicine at that time. Although you can already practice General medicine with a licentiate in medicine, you will not be able to pursue specialty training. Rizal wanted to be an ophthalmologist so he had to earn the Doctorate in medicine which at that time was offered in Spain and nowhere else in the Philippines. So indeed Rizal recievd the Licentiate in Medicine degree from the Faculty of Medicine & Surgery of the UST. I hope this clarifies the misconception.

mag-pie

Sep 3, 2000, 11:07 PM

huh. ok ka lang? http://www.pinoyexchange.com/crazy.gif

mag-pie

Sep 3, 2000, 11:09 PM

raul manglapus. =)

mamasan

Sep 16, 2000, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by bAbOi_AdMU:
i think Ateneo si Jose Rizal :)

the CEO of PLDT! wooohoooo! si Pangilinan yata! darn! alam niyo ba kung magkano net income niyan! $% million a month! :p

he's earning more or less $3M a month.

Xmooth

Oct 3, 2000, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by supakate
isa lang... the president himself...
PRES. JOSEPH EJERCITO ESTRADA

and to think he got bad grades when he was still here, tapos kick out pa yan ng ateneo... naging presidente lang naman ng Pilipinas... dunno why... pano pa kaya yung mga regular students... not to mention the achievers... heaven knows what they are capable of...

:)

hmmm...at first I was quite bewildered about how ERAP can do so many wrong things at the same time. If you want proof, just look at the Philippine economy right now. I didn't think it possible that someone could mess up that bad...then I realized that he had his formative years studying in Ateneo. That explained it!

edge_

Oct 4, 2000, 07:31 PM

i would like to correct this misconception about erap getting kicked out because of low grades. no, that was not the reason. he was kicked out in elementary because he defended his filipino classmate who was being bullied by an american student in ateneo (i'm not sure if the american is their batchmate but he was also in elementary at that time). hinamon niya ang amerikano sa na mag-away sila sa loob ng cr.

kayce

Oct 6, 2000, 01:29 AM

kala ko ba isang alumni lang???

mahirap **** cgurong umintindi ng question...

real

Oct 26, 2000, 09:46 PM

My choice for UST would be Apolinario Mabini.

The main reason is that he was able to hurdle a lot of adversities. First is his poverty. He was able to finish Law at the top of his class inspite of being a working student. Second, he was able to contribyte greatly to the cause of the Philippine revolution inspite of his poor health.
Thirdly, because inspite of all his accomplishments, he remained close to the Almighty. I think that Apolinario Mabini truly exemplifies the real Thomasian.

MIRON

Oct 26, 2000, 11:44 PM

Francisco "SOC" Rodrigo
A true nationalist, Eloquence personified!
Most of all A man for others!

hobbes20

Oct 27, 2000, 02:23 AM

Originally posted by batang uliran
It just seems peculiar to me that Rizal featured the Dominicans prominently in Noli but not the Jesuits. In fact Rizal remembered the Jesuits fondly mostly because of his stay in the Ateneo.

I'm neither from Ateneo nor UST but I think that while UST can lay claim to many things, calling Rizal one of your own is a bit much. I for one (and I spent 11 years in La Salle Schools from GS to HS before spending 7 years in UP) am willing to concede that the Ateneo has a stronger claim on him.

Do you folks take your alumni lists from brochures from your respective schools?

And that list of DLSU alumni - some of them have hit the skids - VicVic is now head of a bankrupt company, Sobrepena's Fil-Estate is getting there (?????????), and Mimosa/Mondragon has been insolvent for some time now. Plus many people on the list inherited their positions and it wasn't the La Sallian education that primarily propelled them into those slots.

uy batang uliran... sorry tagal na nito... ano source mo rito?... kse kung totoo siya mag k quit na ako sa work... bat parang di ko nafifeel na fil-estate is getting bankrupt?... source please... thanks

cute_ass

Oct 30, 2000, 03:44 PM

DLSU:
CALAUAN MAYOR: ANTONIO SANCHEZ (im not sure kung tama 1st name nya)
WHY: he's the best mayor in town, instead of using the money of the Calauan people to get some hookers, nang-rape na lang sya....hahahaha!

THONEAN

Oct 31, 2000, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by kayce
kala ko ba isang alumni lang???

mahirap **** cgurong umintindi ng question...

Pare pareho kaong lahat!
Saan ka ba nakakita ng Isang ALUMNI Lang?
Gagawa lang ng Topic napaka bobo pa ng tanong!

Ratsada Thone'

kahumbu

Nov 1, 2000, 12:59 AM

Juan Flavier

uptowngirl

Nov 1, 2000, 01:15 AM

Originally posted by THONEAN
Originally posted by kayce
kala ko ba isang alumni lang???

mahirap **** cgurong umintindi ng question...

Pare pareho kaong lahat!
Saan ka ba nakakita ng Isang ALUMNI Lang?
Gagawa lang ng Topic napaka bobo pa ng tanong!

Ratsada Thone'

:lol:

francisd

Dec 8, 2000, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by angst
Originally posted by elijah:
pakilinaw po kung saan kang school please...hehehehe...

UST or Ateneo

By the way UST po ako...

Kasi- pareho pong satin siya eh!

Pax et bonum.

Excuse me, you have definitely never read a credible Rizal Book. For your information, Rizal's stay in UST is far from being okay. He was discriminated upon. Why? Because he came from the Ateneo and Ateneo is managed by the Jesuits and you know that Jesuits and Dominicans are enemies.
Besides, he never finished his medicine in UST. He finished it in Madrid. So, Ateneo should lay claim to Rizal more because Rizal received a degree in Ateneo while he never received a degree in UST. And besides, his stay in Ateneo is more memorable than his stay in UST.
Okay? May I remind you to repeat your Rizal course to correct your stupid views. Okay?

Hmm... recalling my history class before, Rizal did spent a great deal in UST but I remembered that he is more into the Jesuits in Ateneo compared to the Dominicans running UST.

I think there was an issue with their "land" with the dominicans.

hard_guy00

Dec 8, 2000, 11:23 PM

at up, i reported about rizal's studies while he was in madrid. the truth is: he was never that good a student; certainly not classified as brilliant. the only subjects wherein he rated "sobresaliente" were in math, literature, latin and the humanities. his grades in science and medicine were mostly "pasado". i wouldn't fault ust for rizal's short-comings in the medical sciences. medicine simply wasn't his forte. as to his writing skills, he was little more than a satirist.

people should accept the fact that our national hero is really just an american invention, meant to dampen filipino's revolutionary zeal and rechannel their energies into education. in other countries, they don't classifiy "national heroes". they follow either the "founding father" or "freedon fighter" model.

congress should downgrade rizal's status as national hero and replace him with a true hero like bonifacio.

LaTtE`M

Dec 9, 2000, 04:14 AM

hardguy00

I agree with you on Bonifacio. Come to think of it, he's the true genius (he's mostly self-educated). Too bad power leeches like Aguinaldo were around.

Unfortunately, he doesn't have a university that could call him an alumnus!

hard_guy00

Dec 9, 2000, 04:24 AM

great idea! i'll write a letter to cong. mike defensor. he's spearheading a move to make bonifacio a co-national hero. i'll suggest he be given a permanent shrine in up and made a PhD hc.

cretinous00

Dec 9, 2000, 06:24 AM

from up, it's jovito salonga. probably the most brilliant lawyer and fiscalizer in the philippines since recto. together with jose diokno, he scored the second highest bar exam score on record. his defeat in the 1992 presidential elections was a sad comentary on the intelligence of the filipino voter. while no one really expected him to win at the grassroots level, i was so disappointed at the way the country's supposed educated class snubbed him. these "educated" people instead voted for the likes of ramos, santiago, even cojuanco. the most intelligent argument they could give against salonga was his age. yes, a country gets the leadership it deserves.

jalapeno

Dec 9, 2000, 03:30 PM

tim yap :lol:

crimsonjaguar

Dec 11, 2000, 04:41 AM

Originally posted by dominicus
I think Rizal is more of a Thomasian than Atenean. It was Santo Tomas which granted the high school diploma of Rizal and an AB degree. Moreover, Rizal spent five years in UST to take up Law and Medicine.

Rizal was indeed an alumnus of UST having obtained his AB degree and advance courses in Medical Science.

Other Thomasian Alumni (taken from the UST Alumni Directory):

1. St. Antonio Gonzalez, O.P.
2. St. Domingo Ibanez de Erquicia, O.P.
3. St. Lucas del Espiritu Santo, O.P.
4. St Guillaume Courtet, O.P.
5. St. Jose Ma. Diaz Sanjurjo, O.P.
6. St. Thomas Hoiji De San Jacinto, O.P.
7. St. Vincent Liem de la Paz, O.P.
8. St. Domingo Henares, O.P.
9. St. Pedro Almato, O.P.
10. Emilio Jacinto, Apolinario Mabini, Marcelo del Pilar, Fr. Jose Burgos, Fr. Gomez, Antonio Luna, Rafael Palma, Cayetano Arellano, Sergio Osmena, Claro Recto, Jose Laurel

11. Leon Maria Guererro, Victorino Mapa, Felipe Agoncillo, Jose Ma. Panganiban, Antonio Regidor, Felipe Calderon

12. National Artist Leandro V. Locsin, Sr.
13. Victorio Edades (national artist?)
14. Washington Sycip
15. Teodoro Valencia
16. Neal Cruz
17. Teodoro Benigno
18. Teodoro Locsin, Sr.
19. Alejandro Roces
20. Zenaida Amador
21. Sen. Kit Tatad
22. Andres Narvasa
23. Ninez Cacho Olivarez, Joe Guevarra, Rina Jimenez David, Eugenia Apostol, Ben F. Rodriguez, Amado Macasaet, Jullie Daza, Alejandro del Rosario, Recah Trinidad, Ramon Francisco, Lito Zulueta

24. Bienvenido Lumbera, Cirilo Bautista, Cristina Hidalgo. Wendell Capili, J. Neil Garcia, OPHELIA DIMALANTA, F. Sionil Jose, the Anonuevo siblings, Mike Corroza, V.E. Carmelo Nadera, Rolando Tinio, Rogelio Sicat, classmate Lourd de Veyra, Ramil Gulle, Naty Crame Rogers,

25. Issay Alvarez, Jamie Rivera, Carlo Orosa, Bernardo Bernardo, Ali Sotto, Barbara Perez,

CEOs, diplomats, deans and professors from UP, educators from Ateneo, La Salle, bishops, priests, professionals all over the world...exhaustible, simply exhaustible!

Galing!
yun bang mga saints dito sa Pilipinas nag-aral?