BEST *Paid* VOIP for Official International Business Calls

[NoisyCricket]

To the business gurus out there,

We at Children's Hour would also need from time to time make official overseas calls, but obviously we would like to avail of the best, most affordable service.

We could use the Skype service for free, but that would mean that the person we are talking to would also need to be on Skype.

We are looking into other options, even if we have to pay for them.

A colleague of ours was referring http://www.zipglobal.com.*They have 2 types of plans:* a plan where you pay a flat fee of $39.95 and get unlimited calls in the US

OR

a plan where you pay a lower flat fee of $2.95 and a get charged $0.02/minute rate for US calls.*It sounds very reasonable actually, but yun nga lang - if the service sucks, then I don't care how cheap it is, it's still a waste of money. Having said that though, assuming you budgetted P$39.95 every month, you could either avail of the unlimited plan, or the value plan and effectively get 30 hours worth of calls.

They will give you a US number so for all purposes, your phone is in the US.* Another advantage is that you can have 3 lines and purposely pick lines with an LA area code, a SF area code and a NY area code so that when our customers from those areas call us, it is a local call for them.
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According to website, set up is rather easy.* After you order, they ship you a box which you plug into your broadband network.* Then you just plug in any phone instrument into the box, and viola! you have a dial tone! (Does this sound too good to be true?)
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What service do you guys use?

Thanks.

NC
(oh K......D......!) ;)

[KuyaDanny]

We don't use VOIP, as our volume of calls is too insignificant for us to consider alternatives to POTS. Further, most of our international calls are inbound.

But I subscribe to a small dialup internet plan provided by Mozcom. I use it for backup when my DSL is down, or when I am in a remote location. Recently, they offered 120 minutes a month free VOIP calls for everyone who is subscribed to a plan. For the monthly cost of a plan (as low as P350 + VAT), you could get 120 minutes at P3.21 per minute, which seems quite reasonable to me.

[SILENTMAX]

ei im curious about this. can more people shed some light in on comercial voip?

ive been aproaced by some mlm voip companies. the thought of networking as a means of distributing them is already turning me off about their services.

i think kakrista is somewhat connected rin to a voip comany rin. boss post ka dito.

i do agree good service is a must and my requirements need to be a stand alone system.

[infinity_ph]

SILENTMAX

what you are referring to is actually a calling card i guess..those are just resellers from US repackaging the service here..

what NOISYCRICKET is talking about is a voip service in US w/c has planned hours..

KuyaDanny ru working 4 a call center?

i got friends here who are in2 VOIP TERMINATION now..big money trust me..

[SILENTMAX]

tell me more about voip termination

how does it work?

edit add:
ok got the info already (google is my friend)
http://www.sysmaster.com/solutions/voip_termination.htm

the question now is, is this legal? what would pldt say about this :)

our ntc is not sme friendly as it is with wifi and all. panu pa kaya eto.

[jasonsteel]

The NTC already ruled VoIP as a value added service, that means ISP's can package this voice service w/ their Internet. They are now drafting the guidelines and expect the giant Telco's to delay the process.

Before, only Telco's/International Gateway Facility (IGF) operators are allowed to offer VoIP. As far as I know and as of the moment, companies other than ISP's can offer VoIP provided they hook-up with an IGF operator and re-sell the service.

There are so many VoIP resellers that are sprouting right now, many of them are fly by night companies and MLM companies who are not really into voice termination (technically). I heard one big VoIP/MLM provider ceased its operations, I'm not surprised.

[jasonsteel]

VoIP quality doesn't depend on the provider alone. End users should have adequate bandwidth and the minimum required would depend on the equipment and compression used by the provider.

I also have friends who are into inbound VoIP termination and bypass operation but was raided by the NTC, big money, big risks.

[NoisyCricket]

how is the quality, KD? I think we'd be willing to make more of an investment in something that was reliable and clear, rather than something that's cheap and tunog-lata :D

Also I think it you can use it as an international fax machine.. :D

[jasonsteel]

NoisyCricket, what's ur existing Internet connection? sent you a PM :)

And yes, it can be used for faxing if you attach a data converter but I doubt its reliability.

[NoisyCricket]

Broadband Lan of Ayala Foundation ;)

Replied to your PM.

[mark_mark]

i have a voip company for you. can you email me at bzkid82@yahoo.com

[jasonsteel]

NoisyCricket, i'll send you an email tomorrow for your reference. im not from ZipGlobal.. I work for a local telecommunications company.

Since youre using Skype, why not try their "rest of the world" calling feature... their service is not limited on Skype to Skype (IP to IP) calling alone, you can also use it to call land line and cell phones abroad.

you need a converter to use any VoIP system to send fax. Voice only needs around 9 to 64kbps and an average of 22kbps to transmit unlike fax w/c is Data (imagine scanning multiple pages and uploading it to the internet).. thats how long the transmission takes, aside from the length of termination on the recipient side. but if you find a fax over IP (data over IP) provider, try it still.. malay natin mali ako :)

[jasonsteel]

tell me more about voip termination

how does it work?

edit add:
ok got the info already (google is my friend)
http://www.sysmaster.com/solutions/voip_termination.htm

the question now is, is this legal? what would pldt say about this :)

our ntc is not sme friendly as it is with wifi and all. panu pa kaya eto.

pareng silentmax musta?

it's illegal if youre not an international carrier or if you don't have 214 license from the states and if u dont have an agreement w/ a local telco. mejo "semi-legal" sya if you will not use the PSTN facility of the telco (see diagram).. bypass operation kasi sya.. using the facilities of a telco to terminate voice calls w/out an agreement or w/out compensating the owner of the facility.

pero big money yan, if ur willing to take the risk.. wala pa namang nakukulong dyan. :D

[SILENTMAX]

yun nga eh.baka ako makulong hehehhe

kasi i have a lot of downtime sa equipment ko tapos i have a lot of bandwidth to spare. gusto ko sana ma utilize it at its fullest nasasayang eh.

lets talk some more about voip sa next eb. mga july aug prepared na ***** ako. hectic sched ko ngayun. with opening of school and everything.

[jasonsteel]

oki no problem... yaman mo na :D

[marco_1]

have you tried yung AllWorx?

[NoisyCricket]

Allworx - whew! Sorry man. Our NGO budget can't afford this :D

Small business, one location with 8 users

Qty Item Unit $ Total $
1 Allworx 10x : Full Version $5,495.00 $5,495.00
8 Cortelco 2210 $99.00 $792.00
1 8 Port Switch $120.00 $120.00
1 Mirrored Disk $359.00 $359.00
1 Warranty - 12 Months FREE
Shipping & Handling( US only, 3-5 day delivery) $59.50
Total $6,825.50
System Installation - estimate * $1,500.00

Total with Installation $8,325.50

[mark_mark]

got your email. i shall start making it tomorrow. thanks.

[NoisyCricket]

Thanks, man. It's highly appreciated.

[ofwdude]

Check this site www.talkstop.com, I think they have the best voip deal for pinoys. Here's why, your calls are totally free, no monthly, no connection, no hidden charges. Just buy 2 TalkStop voip phones, one for you and one for your family in the Philippines.

If you want 1 phone only, it's better to give it to your family in the Philippines. They can call your US/Canada regular phone or mobile number directly for 2 cents per min or Php 1.50 pesos. If you're in the US, you can call their voip phone totally free when you use the TalkStop local access number.

You can talk UNLIMITED FREE anytime, anywhere around the world as long as you have internet connection. It works on dialup.

Check it out www.talkstop.com.

[NoisyCricket]

hey ofwdude, sent you a PM :D

[luks7210]

Our company is offering VOIP with affordable plans. Unlimited calls to US and Canada with an IDD number for $27 monthly. PM me for details. :)

[NoisyCricket]

Hi guys :)

I actually have a standing offer for $2.95 a month + $0.02/min per call which suits are needs the best so far. :D

That's the price to beat :lol: If, however, you guys want to donate a service to us (kahit a few hours a month for free - happy na kami dun!), we'd be happy to promote your product or service in return :D X-Deal ;)

[ofwdude]

Got your PM NoisyCricket.

I think www.talkstop.com can beat that offer. Talkstop offers no monthly fees, no connection fees, no setup fees and no hidden fees, you just need to buy voip phones. Rates to US/Canada is $0.028/min. Products & services are guaranteed. If you're not satisfied, you can return the product within 30 days.

TalkStop.Com, a Filipino-owned company based in California, USA, is a partner of one of the world's leading supplier of quality Voice Over Internet Protocol (VOIP) solutions, products and services.

Currently, TalkStop is looking for a distributor in the Philippines. If your interested please send email to info@talkstop.com

[NoisyCricket]

ofwdude, is there any way that you can send us a demo unit? :D or if you can even give us a unit for free, we would be glad to promote your company in what ways we can *okay*

It would be as if you made a donation to Children's Hour http://www.carbonize.co.uk/Yahoo/Smileys/25.gif hehehe! http://www.carbonize.co.uk/Yahoo/Smileys/63.gif

[ofwdude]

Good news NoisyCricket, my boss is willing to donate broadband phone to Children's Hour. Your company will be responsible for the calling charges. If this works for you, please send your detail info to info@talkstop.com.

[NoisyCricket]

Hey OFWDude! *okay*

This is great! Thanks! I hope we can work something out that suits both our needs!

I shall send you an email. Who do I address the email to?

Our detail info

Children's Hour Philippines, Inc.
c/o Vic Manlapaz (das me ;) )
Resource Mobilization Coordinator

10/F BPI Main Building
6768 Ayala Ave cor Paseo de Roxas
Makati City, 1200
Philippines
Tel. (632) 752-1180
Fax (632) 893-2236

My email: vic@childrenshour.org.ph but sometimes we have problems with the email server, so I also use childrenshour_ph@yahoo.com .

Thanks thanks thanks! :D

[NoisyCricket]

OFWDude = Mr. Robert Pangilinan?

I'm composing the email now, although it seems strange to refer to someone as "a certain OFWdude on PinoyExchange.com" informed us that your company would be willing to donate to Children's Hour a Talkstop.com VOIP phone... ;)

By the way, how can we receive the phone from you? We may have some overseas donors returning for the christmas season. If you give us some instructions, we may be able to get it through them

How will we be charged monthly for the non-talk stop calls? :D

[omeng]

when i attended on the "inventors week", i saw this VOYZME. But it's $0.032 per minute. Visit the site, www.voyzme.com

Ewanko ba't nasama sa booth yun, eh di naman pinoy invention. :D

[mac_bolan00]

who's familiar with nextel-mobile's idem system? they say it's the best platform for voip.

[seed_]

here's the best VOIP deal i've seen so far:

24/7 telebabad abroad for only $4.95/mothly. Yep, 270 pesos lang po isang buwan, 1-to-sawa nang tawagan abroad yan!

You just need to purchase 2 phones, one for you here and the other one for your loved-one (or contact) abroad.

Or you can buy one phone and enjoy the lowest VOIP rate being offered as of current. For u.s and canada landline/mobile calls, flat rate is $0.019/minute. Call rates can even go lower for other countries: hongkong - $0.017.

as for the the quality and clarity of call? that's the best part of the spiel: try this phone and you'll know you finally got the best deal.

if you are interested, call:09154050376

[Ace777s]

For Virtual Manila number, you want www.vodini.com (http://www.vodini.com/index.php?page=subscribe&referrer=100-12539)

I have been using the service for about a month now and everything is working OK, monthly fee is ~$40.00 (better than $200.00 /mo I spent on phone cards)

Anybody can now have a virtual Manila telephone number through Vodini (http://www.vodini.com/index.php?page=subscribe&referrer=100-12539), this means free unlimited calls from your friends/family in Manila. I think for now, only Manila numbers are available but will have other province in the future.

Brief explanation:

You need to have a broadband connection. (Your family/friends in manila does NOT need to have broadband connection) This service is VOIP. When you sign up, you get a virtual manila phone number (i.e. 632-123-4567) you could either buy an ATA (An adapter so you can use your regular phone hooked up to your broadband connection) or you can use a SofPhone (which I use, basically you're using your computer/laptop as your phone) Friends/family from Manila can call you on that Manila number unlimited and it's just like calling another phone from manila for them and not a long distance call.


Should you have any questions/concerns shoot me an e-mail/ym at ace777s @ yahoo . com


If you decide to sign up Please have me as your referral: 100-12539

[newkid]

OFWdude, Do you think you can also donate 1 unit for us too? we are willing to pay for our usage. If the quality is good... we might use it some more. Thanks