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B!Tch HunTer
Jul 10, 2005, 11:26 PM
pinkawala *** mashadong ginawa na call center.. *** bang w8ng 4 a call lang..
IceKnight
Jul 11, 2005, 12:55 AM
wendys, pizza hut, mcdo, etc. :D
FendeR_21
Jul 11, 2005, 01:21 AM
nice topic.......
gungrust
Jul 11, 2005, 02:21 AM
alorica for sure located at wynsum bldg 34 floor in ortigas
iyah-kin
Jul 11, 2005, 02:16 PM
alorica for sure located at wynsum bldg 34 floor in ortigas
how come msyadong petiks dito?? ehehe .. tanong ko *** ..
BeePeeOOO
Jul 11, 2005, 08:08 PM
Depende po sa account within the call center and its metrics kung gaano ka petix ito.
Tingnan mo yung mga account na 80 to 85% ang passing grades yan mga mababait sa empleyado.
Yung mahaba ang agwat ng panahon between calls -petix.
Meron pong mga account na ang PAILALALIM o UNOFFICIAL POLICY ay pahirapan ng matataas na minimum standards o metrics ang mga empleyado para sila ay INISIN na huwag tumagal sa account na iyon. AT para rin ma-terminate sila BASED ON UNREALISTICALLY HIGH PERFORMANCE STANDARDS.
Mabuhay po kayo!
badasschick
Jul 12, 2005, 02:41 AM
Yung isang account ss Ambergris, yung pinanggalingan ko...petix galore na sila ngayon. Actually naaubutan ko din yun, kaso I chose to leave Ambergris for a day job. Anyway, sa account na yun, may full Internet access (except Friendster), Yahoo and MSN messengers, as long as two hours avail time. Thirty minutes ang average avail time. Petix talaga.
B!Tch HunTer
Jul 13, 2005, 03:05 AM
hi badasschick!! ok un ah! what accnt un?? magkano **** don sa accnt na un??? wa kwents **** ang petix pag wa kwents *** pay..
badasschick
Jul 14, 2005, 02:14 AM
^^ 12500, plus 1000 tech premium. And 1320 food allowance, 500 transpo allowance. That's 15320 a month. May 15% night diff, and 2000-10000 monthly bonus (amount depends on grade) pag good performance (na madali lang naman i-carry kasi nga petix.) AHT nga lang ang mahirap dun. 35 mins lang ang AHT, pero puwedeng abutin ng ilang oras pag t@nga sa computer ang kausap mo.
B!Tch HunTer
Jul 16, 2005, 02:48 AM
hi badasschic? what accnt un??? by the way maybe u wud want to try our mejo newly made forum center.. here's the link.. www.prescind.com/c2 la kmeng mgawa eh.. im still in a call center prin eh.. that's y im looking 4 a more petix call center.. is it inbound or outbound??
badasschick
Jul 16, 2005, 03:55 AM
Inbound. Agents deal with viruses, worms, spyware, adware, keyloggers, dialers, Trojans, and network security in general.
In fairness magagamit mo yung matutunan mo sa sarili mong computer.
B!Tch HunTer
Jul 17, 2005, 04:36 AM
ic.. tnx.. prang challenging **** ata un.. prang os reinstall nlang *** solution don ah.. except give recommended SW to remove viruses/spyware.. : )
gungrust
Jul 18, 2005, 03:25 AM
how come alorica is most petix?
simple, kung hindi petix to, hindi ako nakakapost dito and the same time nag dodownload ng naruto episode 146.... hehehe
badasschick
Jul 18, 2005, 04:38 PM
ic.. tnx.. prang challenging **** ata un.. prang os reinstall nlang *** solution don ah.. except give recommended SW to remove viruses/spyware.. : )
Unfortunately, customers don't want reinstallation because they want to retrieve their files. Madalas hindi enough ang malware-removal tool. Manual deletion ang sikreto.
It's not difficult, promise, lalo na if techie ang background mo.
iyah-kin
Jul 18, 2005, 05:02 PM
how come alorica is most petix?
simple, kung hindi petix to, hindi ako nakakapost dito and the same time nag dodownload ng naruto episode 146.... hehehe
bakit ako .. nde naman kakapagpost, surf, chat and at the same time .. mgdownload ng kung anu-ano .. pero nde naman petix sa floor namin before .. ehehe ..
amPOGIko
Aug 9, 2005, 08:07 AM
i'd say samen..though wala kong net, wala din akong ginagawa tapos nakakacomish pa ko.hahaha.i work siguro mga 1 hour in a day tapos the rest puro kwentuhan, lakwatsa and all. ok naman. yun nga lang pag magnenet e lilipat pa ko ng pc.
iyah-kin
Aug 9, 2005, 12:43 PM
saan naman yan amPOGIko ?? ehhee
susan_roces_qc
Aug 2, 2006, 08:41 AM
askmenow pinaka petiks, di ka nasagot ng tawag sa telepono, syempre di ka mag sasayang ng laway, hintay lang ng mga tanong, habang ng ssurf online at chat sa mga kakosa mo sa YM, update ng blog, upload ng pics, download ng mp3's sarap, tsaka mabait pa mga TLs, di tulad ng mga TL's sa ibang call center OA masyado, pag di ka nakabenta ( for outbound ) palo ka sa ****...
askmenow "kick back, relax, surf, chat while you work" kulang na *** maglagay ng beach sa office
susan_roces_qc
Aug 2, 2006, 08:43 AM
WERE CURRENTLY WAITING FOR A CALL. 6 HRS N *** AUTO IN *** PARIN CALL. PURO GAMES NALANG *** **. ***NEED THIS JOB?***, IF U HAVE THE TECHNICAL SKILLS AND IF U WANT TO WORK IN AN ISP ACCOUNT, THEN KINDLY SEND UR RESUME TO THIS EMAIL ADD: sykesasia@hotmail.com AND WE WILL GIVE U SOME TIPS ON A SURE WAY IN. THNX
haha utot mo nag rerecruit ka lang para may 3k commission ka sa referal mo haha..6 hours? baka 6 hours na walang tigil ang calls. ubos na siguro laway mo
lil' st.juju
Aug 2, 2006, 10:02 AM
petix... yIS!
lil' st.juju
Aug 2, 2006, 10:03 AM
petix... yIS!
lil' st.juju
Aug 2, 2006, 10:03 AM
petix... yIS!
pc03
Aug 2, 2006, 12:10 PM
san yang ask me now at allorica?san pwede magapply?pm me
daniel_hehe
Aug 2, 2006, 01:37 PM
where i currently work for, sobrang petix, there was one time, i only had one call within an 8-hour shift.. walang pitik-pitik un.. e pano p *** kung pumitik ako.. hay..
RIGOR
Aug 2, 2006, 11:22 PM
hmm,etong work ko ndi call center,pero skills needed dito e pareho lang sa call center agent such as magaling mag english.. BPO kami.prang office lang kami..we do data gathering for title companies,.. Di ko alam kung petiks ang twag dito pero, nka net access, nka mp3 at mnuod ng vid clips while working,pwede magdownload, pwede magidlp idlip paminsan, monday to friday ng gabi lang pasok,may weekends ako, us holidays ang sinusunod,flexible working sched, ok naman pay, pwede magbreak kung kelan gusto, competitive with call centers.. downside lang ***** e bago lang ito so ang stability sa ngyon ay di ko pa masabi.. overall, mejo mahirap at dumami na ang volume ng work ko pero I can say that it is not as stressful compared sa call centers.wlang metrics at di nkatali ang leeg mo sa headset 8hrs a day
jazzy
Aug 3, 2006, 03:15 AM
that's right, depends on the campaign you're into. :)
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maganda_yan
Aug 3, 2006, 09:46 AM
hmm,etong work ko ndi call center,pero skills needed dito e pareho lang sa call center agent such as magaling mag english.. BPO kami.prang office lang kami..we do data gathering for title companies,.. Di ko alam kung petiks ang twag dito pero, nka net access, nka mp3 at mnuod ng vid clips while working,pwede magdownload, pwede magidlp idlip paminsan, monday to friday ng gabi lang pasok,may weekends ako, us holidays ang sinusunod,flexible working sched, ok naman pay, pwede magbreak kung kelan gusto, competitive with call centers.. downside lang ***** e bago lang ito so ang stability sa ngyon ay di ko pa masabi.. overall, mejo mahirap at dumami na ang volume ng work ko pero I can say that it is not as stressful compared sa call centers.wlang metrics at di nkatali ang leeg mo sa headset 8hrs a day
hey rigor...share mo naman samen yang company mo :) whats the name & address & contact # para makapag-apply din kami jan :D also, can utell us magkano salaaary offer & mga benefits that u get...pag start ba ng training start na rin ng basic pay?thanks...*okay*
RIGOR
Aug 4, 2006, 12:51 AM
hey rigor...share mo naman samen yang company mo :) whats the name & address & contact # para makapag-apply din kami jan :D also, can utell us magkano salaaary offer & mga benefits that u get...pag start ba ng training start na rin ng basic pay?thanks...*okay*
ahh e di pa kami hiring e,may expansion daw pero soon.di ko alam kung kelan yang soon na yan.. basic pay ko e pareho lang din nung sa iba call centers.galing ako cvg,halos preho lang din ang starting pay pero mas maganda ang benefits sa cvg.. sa ngayon e may increase daw kaming mga pioneer dito so di ko **** alam pa kung magkano starting..wlang training dito.start agad.prang opisina lang kami e.. pag ka nagexpand,kung sakali, mag post ako ng thread kung mass hiring..
laviedaloca
Aug 5, 2006, 04:04 AM
wow rigor, sarap naman jan s work mo.. :) cvg din ako before. talking abt petics... aba, dito s bago ko work, super petics!. kolcenter din but its just starting. iba2 program. may inbound cust support-eto *** nagkokols. meron din d nagkokols parang email support lang. ok ang pay compared to my previous work s cvg n sobrang toxic. minsan nga nahihiya nko s sinusweldo ko kc nakatanga n lang kme e. ok p working hrs. 6am-2, 2pm-10 and 10pm-6am.there r sum days n mejo marami kols pro kadalasan onti lang. minsan 1 per hr lang. hehe u can surf d net, yosi anytym, and eat s station. wlang metrics lalo n sales. halos pareho lang benefits s cvg. haaayyy... sarap mabuhay!
RIGOR
Aug 5, 2006, 06:26 AM
wow rigor, sarap naman jan s work mo.. :) cvg din ako before. talking abt petics... aba, dito s bago ko work, super petics!. kolcenter din but its just starting. iba2 program. may inbound cust support-eto *** nagkokols. meron din d nagkokols parang email support lang. ok ang pay compared to my previous work s cvg n sobrang toxic. minsan nga nahihiya nko s sinusweldo ko kc nakatanga n lang kme e. ok p working hrs. 6am-2, 2pm-10 and 10pm-6am.there r sum days n mejo marami kols pro kadalasan onti lang. minsan 1 per hr lang. hehe u can surf d net, yosi anytym, and eat s station. wlang metrics lalo n sales. halos pareho lang benefits s cvg. haaayyy... sarap mabuhay!
aba aba aba.mukang mas masarap ata jan ah..san ba yan? pm mo ko.hehehehe
Dacs
Aug 5, 2006, 06:32 AM
Weird. A topic about not doing anything for a living.
:)
Pancho Jr
Aug 5, 2006, 07:25 AM
dito sa amin nagdo-DoTA kme. tska nanonood ng videos (tapos ko na simpsons seasons 15,14 and 13 in a week). sweldo/benefits? mas malaki kesa sa sweldo ko as L1 sa cvg. maliit lang na company kme, un nga lang sa sobrang petiks baka maisipisip nila na overstaffed kme hehehe
Leif_Erikson
Aug 6, 2006, 01:12 AM
Rigor and laviedaloca, PM me naman o about your call centers. Interesado ako sobra, lalo na sa flexible time tsaka walang ginagawa halos. :)
laviedaloca
Aug 6, 2006, 03:43 AM
haaayyyy... 6 hrs n kme naka auto in isang kol p lang narereceive ko... dead air pa... hehe... rigor and leif erikson, check nio po msgs nio. :)
maganda_yan
Aug 6, 2006, 03:07 PM
laviedaloca, ako rin pa-pm or email ng details re ur present employer...if ever,pwede ba magpaforward ng resume sayo???many thanks...eto pala email addy ko - maganda_yan@yahoo.com
mario17
Aug 7, 2006, 05:17 AM
hey, laviedaloca pm mo naman sa kin yung company name and address nyo. i'm looking for a day job. sawang sawa na ko sa gy, help!
kingforaday
Aug 7, 2006, 06:21 AM
laviedaloca ako din, pa pm naman jan! Mabuhay ang petix!!!
luna_tech
Aug 7, 2006, 04:46 PM
Rigor and laviedaloca, ako din pa email naman ng company and email adress nyo..thanks
daniel_hehe
Aug 7, 2006, 04:52 PM
Do u guys get paid 5k for rendering 10 hours of OT? 7.5k for 15 hours? And this is a weekly basis pwera pa sales commission.. I do, kaya tiba-tiba.. Tpos *** pa calls.. San ka pa? hehe..
froms2db
Aug 7, 2006, 06:45 PM
Hi laviedaloca... kindly send details on where you are currently working. shezzo_wicked@hotmail.com
froms2db
Aug 7, 2006, 06:49 PM
Hi laviedaloca... kindly send details on where you are currently working. shezzo_wicked@hotmail.com
froms2db
Aug 7, 2006, 06:50 PM
Hi laviedaloca... kindly send details on where you are currently working. shezzo_wicked@hotmail.com
froms2db
Aug 7, 2006, 06:51 PM
Hi laviedaloca... kindly send details on where you are currently working. shezzo_wicked@hotmail.com
seifadiaz
Aug 7, 2006, 07:10 PM
napaghahalatang ang dami talagang tamad sa pinas. gusto high paying work na walang ginagawa. :-)
aivhiey13
Aug 7, 2006, 10:49 PM
ei!!! saya talaga kapag wlang ginagawa sa work and ur earning that much!!!!!!
pasok din q jan sa mga colctrs na yan kaya lang sana day shift para may social life pdin!
laviedaloca
Aug 7, 2006, 11:13 PM
d naman kme tamad... suerte lang s work.
heyzelnutzky
Aug 7, 2006, 11:24 PM
gusto nyo proof na petiks sa alorica?? visit nyo http://www.pinoycallcenter.com/forum/index.php..saya dyan puro tga callcenters..pinakamahabang thread syempre sa alorica..petiks mode lagi eh! haha
heyzelnutzky
Aug 7, 2006, 11:30 PM
gusto nyo proof na petiks sa alorica?? visit nyo http://www.pinoycallcenter.com/forum/index.php saya dyan puro tga callcenters..pinakamahabang thread syempre sa alorica..petiks mode lagi eh! haha
laviedaloca
Aug 7, 2006, 11:39 PM
hi ! to all those askin for sum info abt s work ko, i already sent u a pm. m not sure po if we're hiring pro il ask. il let u knw agad if meron. post ko agad dito. :)
RIGOR
Aug 8, 2006, 12:38 AM
oonga,di naman petiks,swertehan lang ba..
topex
Aug 8, 2006, 01:01 AM
Hi laviedaloca! PM me too pls. Thanks! ;)
topex
Aug 8, 2006, 01:01 AM
hi ! to all those askin for sum info abt s work ko, i already sent u a pm. m not sure po if we're hiring pro il ask. il let u knw agad if meron. post ko agad dito. :)
Hi laviedaloca! PM me too pls.
choloy_11
Aug 8, 2006, 04:15 AM
Pls PM me too...
laviedaloca
Aug 9, 2006, 01:46 AM
helo! update lang po. i asked our hr manager if we're still hiring kaya lang freeze hiring muna daw po.. dami kc kakahire lang e. il kip u guys posted kung may bago :)
etelecare kaya? petix din?
honeybabykyle
Aug 10, 2006, 04:47 PM
pa-pm din sa akin yung details.... please..... wink..
h0neypiE08
Aug 10, 2006, 07:46 PM
Ako ko din po, Pm **** un address at company name.... pleaseeeee Rigor and laviedaloca.... thanks... heres my addy... honeypie08@yahoo.com
ellechar12
Aug 11, 2006, 12:48 PM
laviedaloca...count me in as well...here's my add: ellechar12@gmail.com
janzee15
Aug 11, 2006, 03:30 PM
laviedaloca.. im juz curious.. kindly PM the company name.. tnx!
attajanz@yahoo.com
rich_girl
Aug 13, 2006, 04:26 AM
dito samin petix din, maliit lang din call center ito pero same din ng pay ng most callcenters out there,pa four years nko ** and masasabi kong petix dahil, forum babad ako and nuod lang sa youtube.. pag inaantok tulog lang kahit umabot kpa ng more than 1 hour, pero syempre kakahiya naman,break? eh parang break naman lagi eh.. oo petix tlaga, kaso lang kaya gusto ko ng umalis eh ayaw ko na talaga ng nightshift kasi hindi normal an tulog kaya yun lang ang pinaka stress ko, hindi ko lang talaga maiwan agad kasi ok **** ang pay at yun nga konti lang ang ginagawa/calls, pero pag nkakita agad ng day job na medyo ganito rin.. abah lipat agad ako :D
oo nga pala, iba **** siguro ang meaning ng tamad.. tama sabi ni laviedaloca swerte lang kami sa trabaho..
dun sa mga hindi petix ang job naitanong nyo nb sa sarili nyo kung worthwhile ang pagod nyo sa sinesweldo nyo?wala lang...
ey laviedaloca, i hope you don't mind, share mo rin sana sakin kung saan yan :) thanks!
how about alorica, night shift din?
rich_girl
Aug 13, 2006, 04:34 AM
i've heared nga na sa askmenow eh petix din and enjoy yung work kasi para ka lang nkikipag chat.. day job lang ba toh.. i hope susan_roces_qc is able to enlighten me :)
amPOGIko and RIGOR kayo rin sana.. pls pm me kung saan kayo work.. pero kung may night shift ok lang wag na..thanks!
sLiveR_KinG
Aug 13, 2006, 12:21 PM
i've heared nga na sa askmenow eh petix din and enjoy yung work kasi para ka lang nkikipag chat.. day job lang ba toh.. i hope susan_roces_qc is able to enlighten me :)
amPOGIko and RIGOR kayo rin sana.. pls pm me kung saan kayo work.. pero kung may night shift ok lang wag na..thanks!
hmmm... petiks sa ASK ME NOW? mejo subjective, depende talaga sa agent. I work before sa AMN, ok naman ang experience. As of now di sila hiring and I know for a fact that the company is currently undergoing drastic changes.
rich_girl, kindly PM me about your company and work details interested ako.
takeshi_mamoru
Aug 14, 2006, 04:55 PM
gusto ko lang pong patunayan na petix din naman po sa Convergys...
it really depends on the account kasi.
i've been with CVG for 1 1/2 years now, insurance claims po ang account namen, petix **** kc we take calls for quarter or half of the shift, and then wala ng calls so pwede ka na mag friendster, games, ym, whatever.
and sa Convergys ko lang naexperience ang pumasok at umuwi ng wala ni isang call.. hardiharhar.
sa insurance kasi, no accident, no claim so no call,hehe.
again, depende yan sa account so swertihan lang din..
basta the best dito! best pay, less toxic, no. 1 call center pa! (di gaya ng pipitsuging call center) hardiharhar! :bop:
asteeg.. hehe
laviedaloca
Aug 15, 2006, 01:36 AM
sobra k naman! ive worked n cvg for almost 2 years and never lumaki ulo ko at ipagyabang n m working for the no.1 kolcenter n cnsabi mo. at ang "pipitsuging" kolcenter n pinapasukan ko ngayon ay hamak namang mas malaking mag pasueldo kesa s inyo.
takeshi_mamoru
Aug 15, 2006, 10:45 AM
sobra k naman! ive worked n cvg for almost 2 years and never lumaki ulo ko at ipagyabang n m working for the no.1 kolcenter n cnsabi mo. at ang "pipitsuging" kolcenter n pinapasukan ko ngayon ay hamak namang mas malaking mag pasueldo kesa s inyo.
hala.
okay ka lang? i never thought na may tatamaan pala sa sinabi ko. sori po ah. saka di naman ako nagyayabang, i'm just proud of being part of CVG, i didnt know that's how you will take it. if you love your company, you should be proud of it--i'm just like that.
saka kung tinamaan ka sa sinabi kong pipitsuging call enter, e sori po, didn't mean to hurt you...
P.S. don't tell me that i'm not receiving good pay here. you don't know what you're talkin about.
pinoynetwit
Aug 15, 2006, 11:21 AM
Petix in email support can be seasonal...sa UK account na napasukan ko pag summer season sa UK konti ang emails kaya kami ay naka- "queue empty". Remember, that UK weather is usually cloudy that is why they do exert alot of effort in going out of the house in summer season.
"laviedaloca" paki PM naman sa akin kung ano ang pipitsuging call center na iyan dahil baka may interesado ang mga kaibigan kong titiwalag sa trabaho...malay mo pati ako sasama na rin ahihihihiihih!!!
vallene
Aug 15, 2006, 03:59 PM
Rigor and laviedaloca..
pm nyo **** ako kung ano *** name ng company nyo at address..
pls
thnaks!!
zer0_c0oL
Aug 15, 2006, 06:53 PM
link2support ang isa sa pinakapetiks na call center during it's glory days...
about 3-4 calls in a shift and kung pasaway ka you can last a shift without getting a call...meron pa ba nito sa L2S ngayon hehe...
choloy_11
Aug 16, 2006, 03:12 AM
To laviedaloca, rich_girl, pinoynetwit, zero cool: PM nio nmn sakin mga company nio.... pleeeaassseeeee..........
pinoynetwit
Aug 16, 2006, 09:57 AM
Sutherland...dati....ahihhihihihihi...ngayon.......????ewan.
camron
Aug 18, 2006, 05:55 AM
BPO account din ako in clientlogic, and the workload lasts for about 2 hours scattered throughout the day. so do the math kung ilang oras kami petiks. ehehe...that's the thing with BPO accounts, any call center that have this would almost be the same workload.
RIGOR
Aug 18, 2006, 05:16 PM
BPO account din ako in clientlogic, and the workload lasts for about 2 hours scattered throughout the day. so do the math kung ilang oras kami petiks. ehehe...that's the thing with BPO accounts, any call center that have this would almost be the same workload.
yah,tama ka jan..sarap pag BPO back office.
dynomitemachine
Aug 19, 2006, 06:57 PM
Hi laviedaloca, rich_girl, pinoynetwit, zero cool and Rigor. Pwede pa PM rin ng name and details od account and how to apply? Sobrang toxic na collections account ako dati, medyo trauma ako sa account na yun pero kelangan ko mag call center uli,, hehe... Ty po...
pinoynetwit
Aug 19, 2006, 07:40 PM
Account kong inalisan hindi na petix.....would not even recommend it!....ahihihihihihihihihihihihi.
Hopefullly, may back office at email component ang next job ko. Dios Mio madre cacao!
Kanino bang mga Santo pwedeng tumawag for supernatural help? Meron bang Patron saint ang mga BPO and CRM workers? Ahihhihihihihihihihihiih.
dynomitemachine
Aug 21, 2006, 01:06 AM
Yung alorica ba global stride dati? Anong account yung ok? ;) Me openings sila sa classified ads kanina...
choco_monster
Aug 21, 2006, 04:05 PM
^what technical skills do you need sir?
goodtj
Aug 26, 2006, 08:04 PM
@zer0_c0oL
di na ganyan sa L2S marami na volume ng calls so multi tasking na mga agents duon. text, friendster, ym at saka nga pala yung call
chellebuena
Oct 27, 2006, 04:12 PM
mga peeps,
share nyo naman kung san yang mga petiks n work n yan! one year n me nakatengga s bahay looking for that kind'v job. hehe. cge na nga, send nyo nlang details at chellebuena@yahoo.com. baka mabasa ng mga bosing itong thread n to e, matsugi p ***. Thanks!
choloy_11
Nov 22, 2006, 05:20 AM
meron pa ba nito???
poison.ivy
Nov 22, 2006, 01:54 PM
pag travel account ba petix?
RIGOR
Nov 22, 2006, 09:13 PM
narealize ko na ang petiks na trabaho,walang asenso.forever ka nang ganun..thats why goodbye na ko sa trabahong petiks.. look forward for something challenging
breyburt
Nov 23, 2006, 03:56 AM
narealize ko na ang petiks na trabaho,walang asenso.forever ka nang ganun..thats why goodbye na ko sa trabahong petiks.. look forward for something challenging
exactly!!!!!!!!
RIGOR
Nov 23, 2006, 05:41 AM
ngayon,ang kinakatakot ko *** mabigat ng trabaho,bka hanap hanapin ko ang trabahong petiks kasi nkasanayan ko na.nyaaaa..
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