Buhay Empleyado [Archive]

omeng

Sep 27, 2005, 10:43 AM

Ang tutuo niyan, dapat ang pamagat ay "utak empleyado", kaya lang masyadong brutal ( pero ganun din, nasabi ko rin :D ). Ito'y napag-uusap-usapan lang at walang personalan. Sana sa maliit na paraan na ito ay magkaroon ng positibong pagbabago ang mga mambabasa sa pex na may ganitong mga pananaw na di-makakatulong sa kangyang pag-unlad.

omeng

Sep 27, 2005, 11:11 AM

Anu nga ba ang ibig kong tukuyin ukol sa mga empleyado?

Yung nga, ang pagiging "utak empleyado" natin. :D

Gee, ang hirap pala nito.. iniisip ko yung iisipin ng iba na mag-sasagot ng pabalang o kokontra sa akin. By the way, ako'y isang empleyado din naman. :D

Ok, umpisahan ko na..

Bakit ba ganuon na lang mag-isip ang karamihan sa ating mga empleyado sa kumpanya? Kulang sa pagmamalasakit? Kulang sa initiative? Kulang sa paggawa?

Papasok sa upisina ng "late" at mag-a-out ng maaga? Kakain ng tanghalian (12nn) at uubisin ang isang oras para bumalik ng 1pm. Kung maaga natapos kumain, uubusin ang oras sa tsismisan at kung hindi naman, sa syestahan.

Totoo bang pag utak empleyado, ay kakaunti ang malasakit sa kumpanya? Kung ganun, hindi tayu dapat i-promote, bagkus, i-demote pa.

Totoo bang pag utak empleyado, iniisip lagi ang kinsenas at katapusan na sahod? At pag dating ng araw na iyon ay ipambabayad lang sa mga pagkaka-utang, lalung-lalu na sa debt(credit) card. Bakit ba ganun tayo? Dahil ba mabababaw ang kaligayahan natin? Sa kakauinting kinikita sa araw ng sahod, ay kuntento na tayo? Hindi ko lang maintindihan.

May isa akong kaibigan, isa ring empleyado, maraming gustuhin sa buhay. Ngunit sa kabila nuon, wala namang pagbabago sa kanyang-araw na araw na paghahanapbuhay. Papasok ng late sa upisina, kakain ng alas-dose, babalik ng ala-una, mag-a-out ng alas-sais. Ganun na lang lagi. Pag-weekeng, mag-mo-malling, window shopping, at minsan napapabili dahil na rin sa may dala-dalang debt card.

Nakakangising isipin( meron ba nun?) na ang mga ito ay may mga "state-of-the-art" na cellphone na nagkakahalaga ng mahigit P20,000.00. Ito na lang din ba ang kasiyahan nating mga empleyado? O baka mahili lang tayung mag-pa-impress, na.. "big-time yata ako, look at my cellphone, mamen." Kaya ayun, ang billing sa telepono ay ubus na kagad ang sahod. Buti na lang at may Sun cellular to the rescue, pero saan ba natin ginagamit ang unlimited na serbisyo nito, ayun, sa tsismisan, ligawan, kwentuhan ng kung anu-ano, at syempre di mawawala ang update ng "big-brother". :D

O sya, sa muling pagbabalik.. at inuutusan na ako ng boss ko, at baka isipin niya nagnanakaw ako ng oras sa kompanya, e tutuo naman.. eh kasi nga "utak ko, utak empleyado". :D

subconscious

Sep 27, 2005, 11:34 AM

gets ko yung sinasabi mo na mga empleyado mahilig sa mga mahal na celfone pero naka-jeep lang. empleyado din ako,but im not one of them. i agree on some of the things you said EXCEPT that thing about the lunch break. pare diba unpaid ang lunch break? so wala dapat makielam kung anung gagawin ng isang empleyado pag breaktime nya. **** kainin nya ang isang balot ng skyflakes from 12nn-1pm, makipag tsismisan sya, or mag alay sya ng kambing kay satanas dpt ***** wag na nating pakielaman, dba? hindi nmn sa walang malasakit sa company pero everybody needs a break. pag puro trabaho ma s-stress ang tao. your insights are ok,may point nga lang na medjo makitid ka. no pun intended. peace!

omeng

Sep 27, 2005, 12:03 PM

ayan, wala si bosing, nag-lunch.. at sinasabi ko na nga ba. :D

Natutuwa ako at hindi ikaw nabibilang sa mga empleyadong may mamahaling cellphone na halos pag-ipunan ng maraming buwan at liabilities lang ang kalalabasan.

Ang niiibig ko lamang sasabihin ay.. may mga produktibong pang magagawa sa mga oras na ito. Gaya ng ano, ah eh.. ano nga po ba? Pagiisipan ko muna... :D . Sabagay, o marahil magka-iba tayu ng iniisip, o magkaiba tayu ng pananaw.

Tama ka, "everybody needs a break", pero ang karamihan sa mga mahilig mag-break ay mga broke.

O cia, lunch time na.. balik ako ng 1pm, lugi naman ako kung ang mapupunta lang sa kompanya ang oras ng aking pahinga. :D

subconscious

Sep 27, 2005, 12:56 PM

medjo mali pare, hindi lahat ng mahilig sa break ay broke. the truth is karamihan ng empleyado ay broke, whether sinusulit nila lunchtime nila or not.

omeng

Sep 27, 2005, 01:54 PM

Parekoy, nililimitahan mo ang usapin. Maari kitang sagutin ng sagutin sa magkaiba nating itinutukoy na hindi naman tayu magkakasundo. Anyway, nabanggit mo na rin na karamihan sa mga empleyado ay broke, bakit nga ba? Maitanong ko nga sa iyo.

"Excusitis is a failure disease." Yan ang patawang kawikain daw para sa mga tulad kong "utak empleyado" na magpahanggang ngayon gustong umasenso pero maraming dinadahilan. Na kesyo empleyado lang tayo at di may-ari ng kumpanya. Na wala namang tayong malaking pera para pang blah blah, etc etc. Bakit nga ba? Natatakot ba tayong umasenso o sadyang mabababaw ang kaligayahan natin? Sabagay, kung ako nga, patalastas lang sa TV, ang seya-seya ko na.

boogerflicker

Sep 28, 2005, 10:10 AM

Huwag niyo na lang pansinin yung pagyayabang ni Kiyosaki sa kumpanya niya pero maganda ang punto niya.

Employee vs. Entrepreneur - What's the Difference?
An article written by Robert Kiyosaki for Amazon.com as one of its 1st ever Hall of Fame inductees

In 1983, the Harvard Business School published a paper entitled ‘A Perspective on Entrepreneurship’ written by Professor Howard H. Stevenson, that defined the differences between entrepreneurs and employees. It is one of the most articulate articles on this particular subject that I have read. While many differences were examined, I found two in particular to be especially insightful.
The first difference between entrepreneurs and employees is:

Employees are resource-oriented.
Entrepreneurs are opportunity-oriented.

A person with an employee mindset might say, “I would start my own business but I don’t have the money.” Or “I’d love to invest in that piece of real estate, but I don’t have the down payment.” In both of these examples the person focuses on their resources, in this case their lack of money, rather than the opportunity.

In a similar situation, a person with an entrepreneur’s mindset might say, “Let’s start the business and we can finance the business from the cash flow.” Or “Tie up the property and we’ll find the money later.”

My poor dad was a man who saw many opportunities, but failed to act on them simply because he was resource-oriented. Instead of taking action, he often said, “I wish I could do it, but I can’t afford it.” Or “I would go into business for myself, but I need a steady job. I have a mortgage and you kids to feed.”

My rich dad, an entrepreneur and my best friend’s father who taught me a lot about how the rich think about money, was a man who started with nothing, but eventually became one of the richest men in Hawaii. Today, when you look at Waikiki Beach, you see some of the biggest hotels along the ocean on land his family owns. He said, “If you do not have resources, you need to become resourceful.” That is why he forbade his son and me from saying the words “I can’t afford it.” He said, “Poor people say ‘I can’t afford it.’ That’s why they’re poor.” Instead he insisted we learn to say, “How can I afford it?” He believed that when we said, “I can’t afford it” our minds were turned off and went to sleep. When we asked ourselves, “How can I afford it?” our minds, our greatest resource of all, were turned on and put to work.

The second difference between entrepreneurs and employees is:

Employees prefer to manage via hierarchical structures.
Entrepreneurs manage via networks, utilizing the resources of other people and organizations.
This means that employee-type leaders would rather hire people and bring their talent “in-house.” Rather than have an outside firm do their creative work, an employee-type leader would prefer to hire the talent and have them under their control. While there are economic reasons for doing this, the report stated that the primary reason is control. This is because employees gravitate to a leadership style that is more suited to a military command-and-control type of organization.

My poor dad was successful in the hierarchical structure of the government, eventually rising to the top of the educational system as Superintendent of Education and running for Lieutenant Governor for the State of Hawaii. After losing that race – and his position as Superintendent of Education – he tried his hand at entrepreneurship. He purchased a national ice cream franchise that failed in less than a year. Why? While the reasons were many, one reason was his leadership and management style. When he said, “ Jump” … no one jumped.

Instead of the military’s command-and-control leadership style, my rich dad used a more cooperative and collaborative style of leadership. He encouraged his son and me to learn to lead and manage people who are not required to follow our orders – people who did not need to jump when they heard the word “Jump.” Rather than hire people and bring them in-house, rich dad networked with other people and organizations, which tended to reduce his costs and at the same time increase his resources and influence in the marketplace.

Today, The Rich Dad Company follows my rich dad’s advice. Instead of becoming a stand-alone publishing house, we choose to cooperate via a joint venture agreement with The Time Warner Book Group, as well as licensed publishers around the world who offer our books in 43 languages. In this way, we keep our core staff small, yet we utilize the thousands of employees of publishers around the world.

But leveraging the assets and resources of partners is not enough. It’s important to choose the right partners – ones who are aligned with your goals and values.

Choosing the right partners can make the difference between success and failure – as I’ve learned the hard way.

As The Rich Dad Company has grown, we have worked with partners who have opened doors to opportunities that were much greater than what we could have been able to pursue on our own. In an entrepreneurial spirit, we formed alliances with major media organizations and international promotion firms that leveraged the Rich Dad brand with their worldwide networks.

In doing so, we – as entrepreneurs – stay small, yet increase market share by cooperating rather than competing… by networking rather than hiring employees and bringing work “in-house.”

In 1989 the world changed. That’s when the Berlin Wall came down and the World Wide Web went up. Instead of a world of walls, we became a world of webs… networks of people working cooperatively rather than competitively. It is a special honor for me to be recognized by Amazon.com, a pioneer in the brave new world of the web, founded by a great entrepreneur, Jeff Bezos. We at The Rich Dad Company join in celebrating Amazon’s successes and salute your leadership in this world of webs rather than walls.

There are key, fundamental differences between the mindset of an employee and the mindset of an entrepreneur. One of the great things about this world of webs is that the world is now open for business to billions of people who choose to think as entrepreneurs – rather than employees.

omeng

Sep 28, 2005, 02:06 PM

He he.. ayus ang kumento mo ke robert.

Salamat sa artikulo, ngunit baka isipin naming mga empleyado, hindi makatarungan na ikumpara ang isang utak ng entrepreneur sa isang utak ng empleyado.

Natatatandaan ko, isang pexer ang nagsabi na, "entrepreneur is a special breed of people". Maari nga. May isa naman, "hindi lahat entrepreneur." Maari din. O siguro nga, talagang ganuon.

Nung makapag-seminar ako ukol sa "pagiging mabuting empleyado", ay tumimo sa aking isipan ang isang quote na ito...

"Maging mahusay lagi sa paninilbihan."

Hanggang ngayon, nakikita ko ang buting magandang bunga nito sa isang empleyado.

Gaya nito, kapopromote lang ng aking kaibigang empleyado dahil sa kanyang sipag at dedikasyon. Marahil malimit makita ng kanyang employer ang kanyang pang-araw araw na ginagawa sa upisina. May sariling diskarte, may inintiyatibo, maagang pumapasok. Hindi katulad ng kanyang mga senyor ko-empleyado, naghihintay ng iuutos sa kanila, pa-leyt-leyt kung pumasok, etc. Ako man siguro ang maging boss nya(i wish), malamang ipromote ko din sya.

Nakakalungkot isipin na ang motibasyon ng karamihang empleyado ay salapi, marahil gawa ito ng sistema. Sistema na unti-unting kumakain sa atin, na nagiging dahilan ng hindi natin pag-asenso. Pag-asenso saan? Una, sa pinansyal. Pangalawa, sa talento. Pangatlo, ewanko.

"Utak empleyado", paano magbabago?

ehna

Sep 28, 2005, 02:30 PM

hnde lahat ng empleyadong maagang pumasok at lage nakababad/nakatutok sa desk nya is productive at dapat i-promote....same lang rin na di lahat ng taong late or bihira mo makita sa office dahil lage asa break e wala nang kwentang empleyado.....kasi ano't ano pa man, ang sukatan pa rin tlg is yung quantity and quality ng work na napro-produce....;)

omeng

Sep 29, 2005, 12:50 PM

Salamat.

Sumasang-ayon naman ako sa iyo tungkol sa pag pasok ng maaga ngunit nakatunganga lang naman. Ngunit hindi ba mas mapapabuti ang "quality" kung ang lalawakan ang "quantity"? Mas maraming oras, mas bubuti at mas marami ang magagawa.

Sana, ang ma-isaisip ng isang empleyado na mayroong nagmamasid sa kanyang mga pag-gawa. Maaring ito ang maging daan upang siya ay i-promote o kuhanin ng ibang employer, na syempre mas mataas ang pasahod at benepisyo.

omeng

Sep 29, 2005, 08:37 PM

May kakilala akong isang direktor(isa sa may ari) ng kumpanya. Sa nakikita ko sa kumpanya ay malaki ang potential na maging "big time". Ngunit ang isang ito, ay may "utak empleyado", yan ay ayon narin sa kanyang mga co-director. Papasok sya ng alas-otso at di mo na makikita pag oras na ng alas kwatro. Malayu pa raw kasi ang uuwian niya. Oo nga naman, malayu ang bulacan sa alabang.

Araw-araw ganito ang ginagawa niya, kahit na may dapat tapusin, hindi siya magsasakripisyo ng oras para pagtuunan ito. Ito'y isang director, paalala lang.

Sa kalaunan, napagtanto ng mga kasamahan niya na nagbabalak palang mag-abroad ulit ito sa gitnang silangan. Ayun nga, nanduon na sya ngayon. Kung bakit ito ang mga dahilan niya;

1. Mababa daw ang sahod niya (kapos pang sustento sa asawa)
2. Baon na siya sa pagkakautang (lalo na sa credit card)

Ang tutuo, sabi ng mga kasamahan niya;

1. Tinakbuhan niya ang mga pag-kakautang niya
2. May gelfren sya duon na naghihintay :D
3. Hindi sya capable sa posisyong ibinigay sa kanya (bise presidente)
4. Hindi pa sya handa para maging owner ng kumpanya dahil ang character niya ay "utak empleyado".

Ngayon, dahil sa pag alis nya na "huli" ang pagpapaalam, napagdesisyunan ng board na siya'y i buy out.

Sayang... sa nakikita ko, pagkalipas ng tatlo pang taon, malaki na ang kumpanyang ito.

beefnmushroom

Sep 30, 2005, 03:26 AM

nung naging empleyado ako, mapili ako sa project. tamad ako kung walang kakuwenta-kuwenta ang pinapagawa sa akin. ginagalingan ko naman kapag ang proyekto ay mapagkukunan ko ng relevant experience and exposure, dahil yung mga natutunan ko ang siyang ginamit ko sa mga negosyo ko nung ako ay magresign.

ang sarap maging empleyado kung marunong kang dumiskarte, pero mas masarap maging negosyante pagkatapos mong matutong dumiskarte

Adroth

Sep 30, 2005, 06:24 AM

Interesting thread Omeng. Am I correct in assuming that you are highlighting the lack of passion amongst members of the work force?

--- ooo ----

I once had an officemate who always complained that he was never given any external trainings. He moaned that he wasn't learning anything new because he wasn't being sent on seminars.

When I head about this, I was a tad bit surprised, because by then I had been with the company 3 years, and I had an average of at least one seminar a year. To make things even stranger, this guy had been at the head office -- essentially the center of power -- for the whole time that he was with our department, while I had spent 2 and half of my years in a branch office in Davao.

As I talked to him about his complaint, I discovered that he had never asked to be sent on a seminar in the first place. He said it was our manager' job to think about his worker's welfare, and that he shouldn't have to ask.

Fine, our boss was a "scum of the earth" type egomaniac. But if you asked for something and presented a good case for it, the man was sensible enough to approve your request. I knew I needed to learn new things, so I looked for seminars on my own; figured out the cost and the application process; and then asked to be sent. I was never denied.

I told my officemate that I had been sent on number of training opportunities already, and that in all cases I actually asked to be sent. But my officemate stubbornly refused to accept that there was another way to go about the issue, and insisted that our manager had to realize on his own that he needed to be sent for training.

I call this the "victim complex". My officemate complained about being a victim, but didn't lift a finger to help himself. For some strange reason, he chose to remain the victim that he didn't want to be.

Its not an uncommon phenomenon, unfortunately people like this only find a voice when they're part of a union -- by which time the atmosphere is one of combat instead of compromise.

orangepink

Sep 30, 2005, 09:35 AM

@boogie : nice article. it was very enlightening.

Napansin ko lang na ibang companies like banks have office recess (9am & 3pm) tapos may lunch break pa. I wonder how they get things done. Ganun din ba sa gobyerno? Is that why nothing gets done in our goverment?

My previous company (I'm currently unemployed) only allots us 1 hour lunchbreak & that's it. We have to work on holidays & my former officemates would complain. I'm fine with it cuz it's extra money din & whenever I point that out, they'd say ganun ako mag-isip kasi intsik ako.

I just don't understand -- pagwalang trabaho, nagrereklamo kasi wlang trabaho pag meron, nagrereklamo pa rin kasi may pasok. haaay naku....

omeng

Sep 30, 2005, 11:52 AM

Interesting thread Omeng. Am I correct in assuming that you are highlighting the lack of passion amongst members of the work force?

Indeed!

Thanks for sharing. Sana ay magsilbing aral ito sa isang empleyadong gaya ko.

Gaya nga ng iyong karanasan, sabi nga ng iba, "Maaari mong dalhin ang iyong kabayo sa sapa, ngunit hinding-hindi mo ito mapapainom." ;)

omeng

Sep 30, 2005, 12:03 PM

Napansin ko lang na ibang companies like banks have office recess (9am & 3pm) tapos may lunch break pa. I wonder how they get things done. Ganun din ba sa gobyerno? Is that why nothing gets done in our goverment?

Until 5pm talaga po sila. After 3pm lang walang counter (for customer), but still, they have to work until 5pm para ibalanse ang mga account na pinasok at inilabas that day.

My previous company (I'm currently unemployed) only allots us 1 hour lunchbreak & that's it. We have to work on holidays & my former officemates would complain. I'm fine with it cuz it's extra money din & whenever I point that out, they'd say ganun ako mag-isip kasi intsik ako.

I just don't understand -- pagwalang trabaho, nagrereklamo kasi wlang trabaho pag meron, nagrereklamo pa rin kasi may pasok. haaay naku....

Madugtungan ko lang po.. pag may trabaho na nagrereklamo parin kasi maliit ang sahod. Pag malaki ang sahod, nagrereklamo parin, kasi tambak ang trabaho. :D

orangepink

Oct 1, 2005, 01:43 PM

Until 5pm talaga po sila. After 3pm lang walang counter (for customer), but still, they have to work until 5pm para ibalanse ang mga account na pinasok at inilabas that day.

my shift was 9-5, too. I was refering to their snacktime which is usually around 3pm, not their cut-off time. I have some cousins working in the bank & they mention they take their snacks around 3pm kaya napaisip ako :)

antiprocrasti

Oct 2, 2005, 11:11 AM

maari ding pag isipan omeng na habang estudyante pa ang mga bata, madalas ang kaisipang namumuo satin ay kng pano maging empleyado... higit sa pagiging negosyante...

pero hndi naman tamang ilagay sa iisang kategorya ang lhat ng empleyado. marami din naman ang proactive, those that need not to be prodded constantly or be told what to do and how to do it. bilang bahagi ng h.r ang pag track ng performance ng empleyado ay naging bahagi na ng trabaho namin... pero nakakatuwang malaman na hndi lahat ay mga reklamador lang na *** nang ibang iniisip kng hndi ang kikitain --- meron pa din naman naghahanap-buhay [at gustong kumita] ngunit nagpapakita pa rin ng malasakit di lamang para sa kapwa [*** mga susunod na stage sa work flow] pero pati na din sa ngalan ng kumpanya...

minsan behavioral seminars din ang kelangan para magkaron ng new insights ang mga 'jaded' na empleyado. pero kadalasan ang kultura ay talgang nagsisimula sa sarili... sa tao lang talga nakasalalay yan, dhil marami talgang extraneous variables [mga bagay na hndi kontrolado] lalo na sa trabaho

Tmac_1

Oct 2, 2005, 12:08 PM

that was a very interesting and insightful article, boogerflicker. sadly, even though my parents are entrepreneurs, i am an employee-type person.

what really hit me was the 'Employees are resource-oriented.
Entrepreneurs are opportunity-oriented' part. i want to be an entrepreneur but these always comes to mind.

'san ako kukuha ng capital?'
'pano pag di nag succeed?'
'ayoko mangutang'

im not a risk taker and i never thought about the opportunities i wasted..

omeng

Oct 2, 2005, 02:16 PM

my shift was 9-5, too. I was refering to their snacktime which is usually around 3pm, not their cut-off time. I have some cousins working in the bank & they mention they take their snacks around 3pm kaya napaisip ako :)

:)

Maikwento ko lang, sa aking pinag-babangkuhan, may isang dalaginding na empleyado, naiisip ko lang, sa halagang P10,000.00 na sahod, ito ba'y sapat sa ngayon upang mabuhay? May limang taon na sya sa bangko. :(

omeng

Oct 2, 2005, 02:49 PM

maari ding pag isipan omeng na habang estudyante pa ang mga bata, madalas ang kaisipang namumuo satin ay kng pano maging empleyado... higit sa pagiging negosyante...

Yan nga ang madalas kong napapansin nuon pa man. Kadalasan ang mga magulang pag sinasabihan ang kanilang mga butihing anak, "Anak, mag-aral kang mabuti, at kumuha ng medisina, para makaahon tayu sa kahirapan."

Imbes na, "Anak, pag aralan mo kung papano tayo makapapatayo ng ospital."

Napapansin ko dati at magpahanggang ngayon, ang mga batang intsik sa greenhills ay sila mismo ang pinapatao/pinagbabantay ng kanilang mga magulang, siguro may malaking epekto ito kung bakit ang nakakarami sa kanila ay mga negosyante na ngayon.

Ngunit gaya nga ng ipinahihiwatig ko sa itaas, hindi dapat ipagkumpara ang pagiging isang negosyante sa isang pagiging empleyado. Sa kabilang banda, kung ang isang empleyado ay magiging entrepreneur sa madaling panahon, ikakatuwa ko.

pero hndi naman tamang ilagay sa iisang kategorya ang lhat ng empleyado. marami din naman ang proactive, those that need not to be prodded constantly or be told what to do and how to do it. bilang bahagi ng h.r ang pag track ng performance ng empleyado ay naging bahagi na ng trabaho namin... pero nakakatuwang malaman na hndi lahat ay mga reklamador lang na *** nang ibang iniisip kng hndi ang kikitain --- meron pa din naman naghahanap-buhay [at gustong kumita] ngunit nagpapakita pa rin ng malasakit di lamang para sa kapwa [*** mga susunod na stage sa work flow] pero pati na din sa ngalan ng kumpanya...

At kaya nga naman, ang madalas kong gamiting salita ay "karamihan sa empleyado" at hindi ko nilalahat.

Kagabi, sabado, sinundo ko ang aking kapatid sa domestic airport. habang papauwi, napag-kwentuhan namin ang kanyang big boss sa isang foreign bank. Ang boss niya ay isa ring empleyado magpahanggang ngayon. Siya'y Presidente. Alam niyo ba kung magkano ang sinasahod niya sa ngayon? Ang sabi ng aking kapatid, maaaring nasa kalahating milyon kada buwan. Ang laki diba? Kung bakit niya nasabi yun sapagkat yung isang kaibigan niya na Senior Vice President ay sumasahod ng P4M kada isang taon. (kung ako ang tatanungin, maaaring di ko na maisip mag sariling negosyo pa.)

Si presidente ay graduate ng UST at cum-laude. CPA din. Ngunit ang nagdala sa kanya ng rurok ng tagumpay, hindi ang kanyang katalinuhan, kundi, kasipagan. Ang pagiging mapagkumbaba at hindi paglalamang ng kapwa. Yan ay mula sa kangyang mga salita. Maaring ang iba na "utak empleyado", "eh, kaya naman pala eh, matalino. etc.etc. blah blah".

"Pag ayaw, may dahilan. Pag gusto, may paraan." Ganito ba talaga tayong mga "utak empleyado"? Hindi ba nating nanaisin na marating din ang mga narating nila?

minsan behavioral seminars din ang kelangan para magkaron ng new insights ang mga 'jaded' na empleyado. pero kadalasan ang kultura ay talgang nagsisimula sa sarili... sa tao lang talga nakasalalay yan, dhil marami talgang extraneous variables [mga bagay na hndi kontrolado] lalo na sa trabaho

Siguro nga, oo. Pero lagi kong naiisip ang "quote na ito";

"I am the captain of my ship, and I can turn it whenever, whereever I want."

Salamat, antiprocrasti, sa pag share. ;)

omeng

Oct 2, 2005, 02:58 PM

'san ako kukuha ng capital?'
'pano pag di nag succeed?'
'ayoko mangutang'

im not a risk taker and i never thought about the opportunities i wasted..

:D

"Even you have billions of dollars, you should lend." Donaldo Turumpo

Eto po yung tinatawag na... UOPM (Using Others People Money)

Tmac_1

Oct 2, 2005, 04:28 PM

lend? di ba dapat borrow? :D

omeng

Oct 2, 2005, 05:18 PM

ay oo nga pala. :D wow mali.

boogerflicker

Oct 3, 2005, 10:09 AM

the best employee is the one with the entrepreneurial mindset

beefnmushroom

Oct 3, 2005, 02:17 PM

the best employee is the one with the entrepreneurial mindset

very true, and this "best employee" will eventually be your tough competitor in the future.

Adroth

Oct 3, 2005, 03:05 PM

the best employee is the one with the entrepreneurial mindset

But not the self-serving entrepreneurial. CEOs are still essentially employees, but they make business decisions mainly for the benefit of the company.

omeng

Oct 3, 2005, 06:09 PM

He he.. Beef was talking about his best buddy employee. :D

omeng

Oct 3, 2005, 06:24 PM

Nuong ako'y empleyado pa sa isang domestikong paliparan, ako ay na-promote bilang isang EA for VP. Dahil siguro sa taglay kong kagandahang lalaki. :D Ang niiibig kong sabihin ay marahil mas nakitaan ako ng gilas kaysa sa aking pitong na kasamahan empleyado. Ang masaklap, hindi matanggap ng iba. Marahil, inaakala nila na mas pogi sila sa akin. Inaamin ko naman, pero mas gwapo naman ang bulsa ko sa kanila.

Ang "utak empleyado" daw ay maingitin. Siguro nga, imbes na makipag-paligsahan, mas pinipiling makipag-siraan. :(

Ganito ba tayong uri ng empleyado? Sana hindi.

Tmac_1

Oct 3, 2005, 09:15 PM

i also noticed that extrovert people are the ones good in business.

does this mean that an individual's personality is a key factor in determining if he's an entrepreneur or an employee type of person?

omeng

Oct 4, 2005, 07:10 PM

maybe.. maybe not. :D

Bakit ang isang may taglay na "utak empleyado", panay ang bili ng kung-anu ano? Panay payabang ba?

Kagabi, kausap ko ang isa kong kaibigan na masasabing "made" na rin sa buhay. Ang celpon niya ay yung lumang model pa rin ng nokia.

Pag nasa mall sya, at nag sha-shopping, malimit ang itinatanong niya sa sales lady, "saan o ano ang mas mura?". Ang mga sales lady na mga ito, ay titignan sya na para bang isang.. "hello!?! hindi ito palengke". At lalong-lalo na pag-nakita ang celpon niya.

Pero kapag ang nagtatanong ay mga may hawak na "state-of-the-art" na celpon, hala! Alisto si sales lady. At ito namang si pogi, ang itinatanong ay yung mga branded at signature pa. Pero kung susuriin, ayun, pumapara ng FX Taxi para makauwi na sa bahay nila.

At ito namang mga empleyadong sales ladies, para pang sila ang may ari ng store kung mag-aasta. O siguro, hindi lang sila expose sa mga ganitong bagay.

Nakakatawa ngunit nakakalungkot. :D :(

paulgilbert80

Oct 5, 2005, 01:36 AM

Galing mo Omeng. kakatuwa basahin itong thread mo

pauster007

Oct 5, 2005, 08:30 AM

Yung mga empleyado na bumibili ng mamahaling cellphone kahit broke na sila...baka yung pagkakaroon ng cellphone na yun ang tangi nilang kasiyahan hehehe...

Sattelite_kid

Oct 5, 2005, 03:02 PM

ako naman eager magtrabaho.malaki man o maliit pinapagawa. ang problema ko lang ay dito sa pinagtatrabahuhan ko ay masyadong ma-politica. dumadating ang point na di ko na alm kung sino pagkakatiwalaan ko. nakakababa ng morale nga e. dami na chismis may mga traydor pa. how do i deal with this? mahirap pero you have to get along.

KuyaDanny

Oct 5, 2005, 03:26 PM

Pakiusap (parinig?) lang...

Wala akong pinatatamaan sa inyo, ha? Pero isa sa mga kinaiinisan kong ugali ng mga ibang manggagawang pinoy ay ang pangungutang.

Kaha-hire pa lang, hindi pa napepermanent ang tanong kaagad sa mga kasamahan - kailan ako pwede mag-loan?

Kung may loan privileges, gagamitin at sasagarin. Salary loan. Emergency loan. Cooperative loan. SSS loan. 5/6. Installment. Palista sa canteen. At higit sa lahat - CREDIT CARD!

Kaya, ayun. Baon sa utang. Pagdating ng araw ng sahod, darating ang mga kolektor. Withdraw sa ATM. Bayad dito, bayad doon. Siguro tatlong oras sa maghapon ang nauubos sa debt service dahil hindi lang basta bayaran ang nangyayari, may kasamang katakut-takot na pakiusap. :( At dahil "kulang sa kinikita", gagawa ng sideline. Magnenegosyo sa loob ng opisina. Asus. :grrr: Kung ganyan ang empleyado mo, dapat siguro may porsyento ka sa negosyo niya. Oras mo yung ginagamit niya, eh.

At huwag naman sanang gawing dahilan na maliit ang sahod. May kilala ka bang empleyado na aamin na masyadong malaki ang sahod niya? Ako wala. Matutuwa siguro kung malaki, pero kung sabihin mo sa kanya kung papayag siyang bawasan dahil sobra, tingnan natin kung ano ang isasagot niya.

Kung ano ang kinikita mo, pagkasyahin mo. Hindi lang para sa empleyado, pati sa negosyante magandang payo ito.

Tmac_1

Oct 5, 2005, 08:59 PM

i can relate to that. may mga officemates din akong ganyan dati.. panay loan, especially SSS and coop. but they didnt used it for emergencies. pinang shopping lang nila. when you do the math, sayang yung binayaran mong interest. Credit cards pwede pa siguro. at least when you pay on time, you dont get charged.

KuyaDanny

Oct 5, 2005, 09:29 PM

Pinaala mo yang credit card. :grrr: Kanina lang bago ako umalis ng opisina may tumawag na taga AIG credit card. Hinahanap yung isa naming messenger na nakauwi na. Hinihingi ang telephone number sa bahay niya. Ang alam ko walang telepono sa bahay yun dahil walang pambayad. May past due daw sa credit card halos isang taon na hindi nababayaran.

Noong isang buwan naman nabuking namin yung isang clerk na laging late kung pumasok. Yun pala pinagtataguan yung kubrador ng credit card na laging tumatawag pag umaga.

Ang laking istorbo sa trabaho diba?

Yung kwento nila pare-pareho. Hindi naman nila ginamit ang credit card pambili ng pangangailangan. Pinamblow-out sa barkada. Bumili ng laruan ng anak, o di kaya regalo sa chicks. Tapos lumagpas sa limit. Tapos dumating ang bill hindi makabayad. Tapos matatabunan na ng interest. Asus. :grrr:

Macky_EX

Oct 5, 2005, 11:50 PM

Naroroon na rin lang tayo sa mga parteng kinaiinisan natin, makikisalo na rin ako ng kinaiinisan ko (wala po sanang tamaan). Unang-una na dito ang mga empleyadong walang magawa kung hindi mamansin ng ginagawa ng ibang empleyado. Ang sa akin po lamang, bago natin pansinin ang mga hindi magagandang ginagawa ng iba mas maganda po sana na tayo na mismo ang magpakita ng magandang halimbawa para tularan ng iba. Tama na ang salita at pambabatikos ng kapwa, nakakasawa na rin kasi. Kahit sa mga maliliit na pamamaraan ay maisayos man lang natin at tayo na mismo ang magsimula ng pagbabago tungo sa ikauunlad ng katulad nating "ordinaryong" empleyado.

omeng

Oct 6, 2005, 09:41 AM

Napag-uusapan na rin lang ang Debt Card, :D Pag nakakakita ako ng mga kapwa ko empleyado sa makati area, angnasasaisp ko lagi, "ah.. 8 + CD ito!" .. in long, P8k ang sahod plus may Credit Card syang dala-dala. Ang sama ko no? :D

Mayroon akong tatlong kaibigang empleyado, na ang dalawa ngayon ay nasa abroad na, at ang isa ay maaaring makaalis na rin. Itong mga ito ay baon talaga sa utang ng Credit Card. Since kami ang pioneering sa flight operation ng kompanya iyon, madali naming utusan ang mga nakakababa sa posisyon namin. Pag tumawag ang mga credit card agent, sasabihin nilang, "ah, si sir ano, namatay na po last year." "ah, matagal na pong nag-resign rito si sir ano." "si sir ano po, nag awol po last las month."

Nakakatawang pansinin, ngunit nakakalungkot talaga na kailangan pang gawin ang mga bagay na ito para lang pagtaguan ang mga pinagkakutangan nila. Ang masaklap, hindi lang iisang credit card company ang naghahanap. may citibank. may standard. at may hsbc.

Hindi ko naman malaman sa mga credit card company na ito, parang kay hihina ng mga intelehente nila. Pinalitan ng Midol name, nag approve na kagad, ayun tuloy, ang mga pogi, nagsasalo para sa pagkakuha ng bagong mauutangan.

Ngayon nasa amerika yung isa, permanente na duon. Wala ng dapat bayarang mga credit card. Yung isa, nasa gitnang silangan at wala na ring babayarang pagkakautang. At yung isa, may konsensya pa naman, nagbabayad parin ng credit card pero yung minimum account lang, kaya patuloy na lumalaki ito. Pero siguro, pag nakaalis na rin sya papuntang europa, "adios patria adorada". :D

Sana wag silang balikan ng bad karma, mga kaibigan ko sila na naliligaw lamang ng landas. :)

Hayyy... naiisip-isip ko tuloy ngayon, maganda palang stepping stone ang credit card. :D

Pag "utak empleyado" tayo, mababaon lang sa pagka-utang.

orangepink

Oct 9, 2005, 03:38 AM

does this mean that an individual's personality is a key factor in determining if he's an entrepreneur or an employee type of person?

yup...but that doesn't mean if mahiyain ka ngayon, wala ka nang chance. In time, you'll develop the right personality.

Wala akong pinatatamaan sa inyo, ha? Pero isa sa mga kinaiinisan kong ugali ng mga ibang manggagawang pinoy ay ang pangungutang.

Kaha-hire pa lang, hindi pa napepermanent ang tanong kaagad sa mga kasamahan - kailan ako pwede mag-loan?

Kung may loan privileges, gagamitin at sasagarin. Salary loan. Emergency loan. Cooperative loan. SSS loan. 5/6. Installment. Palista sa canteen. At higit sa lahat - CREDIT CARD!

Ganun din mga officemate ko dati. Nagrereklamo kasi maliit daw sweldo but later on, may bagong cellphone haaay naku.

tidus1203

Oct 9, 2005, 11:12 AM

omeng

Oct 9, 2005, 04:40 PM

Nuong mga nakaraang lingo, ako'y may pilit na iki-no-close na deal sa mga koreano. Anu pa nga ba, kundi ang pagbebenta ng beach lot.

Marami na rin akong nakausap ng mga gaya nito at talaga namang, napaka-kukulit at tipong mga butangero. Nandyan yung pagiging brusko nila na malimit pag hindi nagkakaintindihan, sasabihin nilang, "So what's the problem with me?" :D

Dahil sa ganitong mga pangyayari at mga experiensya ko, naging negatibo ako sa mga koreano. Ang siste, ang pagtrato ko sa huling ka-deal ko ay hindi gaanong mapag-anyaya at ito'y napansin mismo ng mga koreano.

Sa madaling salita, nagkaroon kami ng mga pagkoko-prontasyon. Ang sabi ko, "I'm sorry to act that way, because i have so many dealings with your countrymen, but unfortunately, i have not close one. etc, etc, blah blah.". He said "You know, I travel here from America just to meet you and make some deals to you but i got a bad accommodation from you." Ouch! :D

At ito ang natutunan ko sa sinabi niya.. "Even i'm the bad person or the good person, you don't know yet. You should treat me as a good client." Oo nga naman, sa isip-isip ko. Mali naman ako dun, at oto'y inaamin ko. At syempre, sa mga susunod na may ganitong dealings, mabuti na ang pag trato ko.. he he :D

Bakit ko ba naiku-kwento ito? Ang dahilan ay ang mga "utak empleyado" sa mga stores, malaki man o maliit.

May isang maliit na negosyante na pilit gustong makapasok sa isang malaking store upang ang kanyang produkto ay ma-isama sa tamang kalagyan. Ang siste, napakaraming rekititos. Kailangan mo kumuha ng ganire, ng ganuon, ng ganito. Sa tingin ko, okey lang naman ang ganuon, pero ang pag trato ng mga empleyado sa mga gustong mag-supply, ay nakakabanas. Nanduon yung papipilahin ka, dadaan-daanan ka lang, papag-hintaying ng napakatagal, bahala ka kung magutom ka, at pag minalas-malas ka, aabutan ka ng lunch time nila, at syempre, walang mag-aasikaso sa iyo. Ang sinasabi ko ay ang pagdadala ng samples ng produkto sa mismong tanggapan ng stores.

Bakit ganuong ang pagtrato nila kay? Siguro iniisip nila "hmp, sales rep lang ang mga yan!" Baka nga ganuon? O kaya, "kayo ang may kailangan samin, kaya magtiis kayo!" O kaya naman, "Who cares, eh hindi naman ako kikita sa iyo, kundi ang may ari ng stores."

Tapos, pababalik-balikin ka, para sa mga karagdagang requirements na pwede naman, i-fax or email. Putek, napaka primitibo. :D

Ni hindi mo makausap ang "empleyadong manager" ng branch na yun, eh namputek, ikaw na itong may-ari ng isang kumpanya, tapos etong mga empleyadong ito, kung mag-ta-trato ay mga prima-dona.

Hayyyy.. siguro nga, ganito ang buhay. :D

omeng

Oct 12, 2005, 05:00 PM

May isang empleyada na gustong umasenso. Ang plano niya sa susunod na taon ay magkaroon ng isang sariling negosyo kahit maliit. Ngunit hindi ko nakikita sa kanya ang paghahanda. Malimit ko syang sinasabihan na magbasa ng mga libro na makakatulong sa kangyang intelektuwal na karunungan sa pag uumpisa ng negosyo. Ang masakit, ang malimit na basahin ang mga pocket books na love story. :(

"Habang taglay ang "utak empleyado", hindi dapat munang mag negosyo."

rich_girl

Oct 15, 2005, 12:26 AM

Yung mga empleyado na bumibili ng mamahaling cellphone kahit broke na sila...baka yung pagkakaroon ng cellphone na yun ang tangi nilang kasiyahan hehehe...

korek!!! :bop:

omeng

Oct 22, 2005, 03:14 PM

May isang empleyada akong nakakwentuhan.

Minimum ang sahod, sabi niya. Maniniwala ba kayo na ang hilig niyang mag-kape sa starbucks? Hesus, Maria, Jose!

Magnenegosyo raw sya pag nakaipon na. :(

omeng

Oct 24, 2005, 07:43 PM

Pano ba maging modelong empleyado?

Siguro maaaring ganito dapat ang maging taglay na pag-uugali...

"A businessman arrives at a Wal-Mart store in Canada a few minutes after closing time. He couldn’t get in so he went back to his hotel quite upset because he needed to buy an alarm clock so he wouldn’t be late for an appointment the next morning. He calls up the store hoping that some employees are still inside. A girl called Sue is still inside stocking the shelves and answers the phone. The man explains his predicament and says he needs an alarm clock so he can wake up at 5:30 AM. Sue replies, “No problem. I’ll set my alarm clock at 5:30 and if you give me your number, I’ll give you a wake-up call.”

BLue{}FairY

Oct 28, 2005, 11:22 AM

** sa opis namin ako lang ata ang utak epleyado... binabayaran ng malaki pero pex pa rin ng pex pag nag ha-hang ang utak ko...
pang refresh ko ang pex sa work ko then after ko makapag post trabaho ulit then pag na stack na naman utak ko pex ulit...
pero nde ako yung tao na papasok ng late then maaga pa uuwi... ** maaga ko pumasok dahil madami gagawin then kadalasan gabi
na umuuwi dahil nde pa rin tapos ang trabaho... nakakahiya naman kc sa mga boss ko nagtiwala *** sa akin bakit ko *** bibiguin dba...
minsan nga lang nde makahabol sa deadline kahit anong tyaga sa pagtapos ng trabaho kc kaka pex, minsan nasabihan na ako ng ka partner ko sa module
tapusin mo muna yung ginagawa mo bago yan... grabe nakakahiya talaga... ayun naiwanan na nya ako sa module namin nde pa rin tapos gnagawa ko...
sabi ng boss ko habol ka... ngayon tapos na ako pero dahil sa kailangan i-recode ulit ang codes namin nahuli na naman ako...
aminado ako utak empleyado ako... buhay ko na ata ang mag pex pero nde ko sinisis ang pex ha... i just speak my mind... cge balik na ulit ako sa work naka pag post na ako eh...
ng matapos na module ko...

PinoySaKSA

Oct 29, 2005, 05:02 PM

^^
pex addict ka na pala bluefairy, hehehehe... and if you are an entrepreneur you would see this as an opportunity... say, put up a PEX Addict Rehabilation Center.... just kidding..

when i was younger, (so much younger than today :)) i worked in a government agency.... don ko nakilala ang realidad ng pagtatrabaho at ugali ng mga empleyado...

na-impose ang extended time for govt agencies na kung saan may pumapasok ng 7am-4pm, 8am-5pm at 9am-6pm. normal na ***** sa offices ang partitition lang ang pagitan ng mga departments at napansin ko sa kabilang department who had senior employees (senior sa edad, sa position at pati sa pag-asta) ang tinatawag nyong "utak empleyado".

merong papasok ng 7am pero di mo pa makikitang nagtatrabaho talaga... darating ang kasama na pang 9am... suklay-suklay, make-up make-up.... at pupunta sa canteen para mag-almusal kasama *** pumasok ng 7am... so about 30 minutes or so, babalik sa kanilang mesa at saka pa lang mag-i-start magtrabaho...

then comes 4pm, so about 15mins before 4pm nag-re-refresh na ang aalis.... at ang pang-6pm halos hindi na rin magtatrabaho dahil tinatamad na sya...

that made me decide that i should get out of that agency if i want to keep my ideology... and i did found a new job right away...

natatawa nga ako kapag nakikita ko ang mga government employees sa tvpatrol kung gaano nila inilalahad na kulang ang sueldo at benepisyo nila... na unfair ang govt sa pagpapasueldo sa kanila, etc. etc.

omeng

Nov 2, 2005, 07:03 AM

Salamat BLue{}FairY sa pag-share ng iyong karanasan. Ngunit paano ba ito kapupulutan ng aral?

PinoySaKSA, sana hindi nagtatapos sa pagtatawa natin sa mga ganitong mga "utak empleyado".

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Kagabi, napag-alaman ko na hindi lang sa gobyerno o sa mga maliliit na pribadong kompanya nangyayari ang mga ganitong mga pangit na gawain.

Sa isang napakalaking pribadong international na kumpanya, may isang "utak empleyado" na mas piniling maging puno ng unyon kesa maging opisyal. Papasok ng 8:30am, magkakape at magbabasa ng dyaryo hanggang alas-9. Magtatrabaho hanggang 11:30am at pagkatapos lalabas ng upisina para kumain. At babalik na ng alas-dos ng hapon. At uuwi ng alas-kuwatro.

Sa araw araw na gawain na ito, tila, masaya na sya at kuntento. Tignan mo nga naman. Para sa akin, isa rin syang magnanakaw.

Hindi ba tayo nahihiya sa ating mga sarili pag ganito tayo? Ito ba'y dapat ipag-malaki pa?

retro_boy

Dec 2, 2005, 06:27 PM

noho2ortigas

Dec 2, 2005, 06:59 PM

Okay tong thread na ito. Here's some tips to avoid the Employee mentality (inspired by Robert Kiyosaki's RICH DAD, POOR DAD)

1) Buy assets not liabilities. Assets are things that put money IN your pocket. Liabilities are things that TAKE MONEY OUT of your pocket.

Example: Time deposit savings = asset. Partnership share in a business = asset. Liability = cell phone UNLESS you buy it under a company name and all use/depreciation is paid for by the company as a company expense.

2) FORCE YOURSELF to save by buying assets on installments--rental property, taxi that is being leased out daily, etc

3) SIDELINE SIDELINE SIDELINE -- there are tons of mulitlevel sales or sideline sales jobs. Explore your social network at work, school, or your relatives' network re selling a product

4) EVERYONE'S A BROKER -- Explore your social network and determine what everyone's looking to buy. Find a seller and charge a small fee. This can be about real estate, buying furniture, locating a business, buying a car, etc.

5) SAVE SAVE SAVE -- put some of your money in the bank on time deposit. TRY NOT TO BORROW MONEY. Neither a lender or borrower be.

6) INSURE YOURSELF -- health is wealth, make sure your wealth doesn't vaporize if you get sick. Protecting wealth IS a form of maintaining and growing wealth.

7) REAL PROPERTY is the ultimate property -- The most classic and enduring form of wealth is LAND. Buy it, develop it, lease it out, hang on to it, sell it, and buy some more.

gosu

Dec 3, 2005, 10:12 AM

share ko lang sa inyo. Nung nag graduate ako last year at sinubukan ko nang maglibot libot sa Makati area para mag apply nang trabaho eh napansin ko lang na karamihan sa mga nagtatrabaho dun eh akala mo lahat mga milyonaryo. Sa mga pananamit pa lang at mga gadgets nila(Ipod, Celfones, etc) talagang magtataka ka kung magkano talaga sinasahod ng mga empleyado sa pinas. At ang nakakatuwa pa dito eh karamihan kung maka asta eh akala mo may sila may ari ng kumpanya na pinagtatrabahuhan nila. Laking gulat ko na lang eh majority pa ng mga mayayabang na empleyado eh mga rank and file lang naman.yung tipong kumikita ng 10K-20K. And no offense sa mga call center people pero karamihan ng mga nakikita ko sa kanila eh kung umusta eh akala mo kung sino. peace!

tina11

Dec 3, 2005, 10:23 AM

:lol: at KuyaDanny's post

I can understand why some people would want to splurge and spend their first paycheck on buying an iPOD or treating themselves and their friends. Sa hirap ba naman maghanap ng trabaho ngayon, reward na siguro nila yun sa sarili nila. But to abuse your credit card and keep splurging month after month... iba na yun.

i can relate to that. may mga officemates din akong ganyan dati.. panay loan, especially SSS and coop. but they didnt used it for emergencies. pinang shopping lang nila.
May kilala akong nag-loan sa SSS para sa debut ng anak niya. Susmio.

KuyaDanny

Dec 3, 2005, 01:51 PM

There are sadder stories. At one business we run, we noticed a sudden rise in pregnancies a few months after we opened the factory. It turns out there were many first-time employees who were becoming eligible for SSS benefits, including maternity payments. So some clever person decided having a baby was a good deal and decided to convince everyone else to do so. "Magkaanak ka, magkakapera ka." :(

gosu

Dec 3, 2005, 02:09 PM

Nakakalungkot ispin na karamihan ng mga pilipino ngayon eh kung gumastos akala mo namimitas ng pera! kaya parang paminsan eh ang hirap maniwala sa mga balita at mga dyaryo na naghihirap na ang mga Pilipino. Umikot ka na lang sa mga malls around metro manila at malalaman mo rin ang sinasabi ko. Dapat sa mga pilipino ay magkaroon ng budget/financial planning para pagdating ng panahon eh may mailalabas tayo na pera in case of emergencies. Ang hirap kasi eh inuuna pa natin ang porma eh...

omeng

Dec 3, 2005, 03:33 PM

omeng

Dec 3, 2005, 06:59 PM

Tanong ko lang sa ating pagpapalawak ng diskasyon sa buhay empleyado paano kung ganito.
Anong advantage at disadvantage pag ang Utak Entrepreneur ay naging empleyado na? makakhanap ba ka agad sya ng trabaho?advantage ba ang pagiging utak Entrepreneur sa patingin ng mga Companya?

At ano naman kapag ang Utak Empleyado naman ay nag negosyo?
kakayanin ba nila agad? ano ba ang dapat gawin para makamit ang pagiging entrepreneur?

Sa unang katanungan, madali mong makukuha ang sagot sa panonood ng "The Apprentice".

Sa ikalawa, sa nakikita ko, walang pag-unlad sa negosyo bagkus ito'y babagsak. Gaya nga ng nasabi ko ng una pa, may isa ritong nakapagsabi na.. "hindi lahat ay entrepreneur", ngunit hindi naman ibig sabihin non, di ka na pwedeng mag-negosyo. Marami namang paraan.

Ngayon, kung may potential kang maging isang ganap na entrepreneur, bigyan mo ng sapat na edukasyon ang sarili mo. *okay*

thirdeye

Dec 3, 2005, 07:34 PM

the_BuGs

Dec 3, 2005, 08:21 PM

ako Utak Empleyado kaya?

Nuong nasa Pilipinas ako

- Laging me Bagong Cellphone (pero hindi ako bumbili :D )
- Laging Gimik ng Gimik kapag Kinsenas at Katapusan
- Nabaon sa Credit Card (Kung tutuusin sa huling kumpanya pinasukan ko lang ako nagka credit card dahil sa dala ng sulsol) pero nabayaran ko naman lahat :D wala kasi akong loan sa mga SSS,Pag Ibig at kung anong loan ek ek na yan nuong nasa Pinas ako eh.
- Panay Libre
- Sa huling kumpanya ko Late Lagi Pumasok PERO!!!! kung umuwi naman ako galing opisina eh 3:00 AM so kadalasan sa opisina na ako natutulog.
- Sa huling kumpanya ko ulit... mag-lu-lunch break ng 11:30AM at babalik ng 1:30 PM :D

- sabi nila reklamador daw ako sa trabaho ko pero sa tingin ko hindi dahil hindi tugma sa trabaho ko yung pinapagawa nila sa akin. Kaya yung 2 kompanyang napasukan ko nuon napilitang alisin ako.

Positive side ko naman eh ganire...

- Open ako sa kasamahan ko.. kelangan sabihin sa akin ang mali ko.. dahil kungdi magkakanda letse letse tayo ....walang hiyaan ika nga..
- Open ako sa management kung me mali man sa patakbo.. (kaya daming inis sa akin dahil akala sipsip ako) :D
- Dahil sa Open ako sa Management at nakikita nilang gusto kong umangat so napapagbigyan yung gusto ko. (Pero hindi lahat) Kasi sa akin kung magaantay ka lang ng grasya sa kinauupuan mo aba walang mangyayari sa iyo..kelangan ikaw gumawa ng paraan para makakuha ng Grasya!!!

Ngayon andito ako sa Gitnang Silangan at me pinanghahawakan na maliit na departamento sa aming opisina although hindi mo na masasabing simpleng empleyado ako pero hindi ko pa rin masasabi na hindi na ako utak empleyado... dala ko pa rin yung iba.

omeng

Dec 5, 2005, 12:47 AM

Mabuhay sa lahat!

May isa akong kaibigan na may-ari ng isang kumpanya. Siya ay matalino, masipag at may dedikasyon. Ang mga empleyado niya ay mga tipikal na manggagawa o sabihin nating ulit "utak empleyado". Sa pagnanais kong tumulong sa kanyang mga empleyado, nakaisip ako ng isang bagay na alam kong makakabuti sa lahat. Sa empleyado, sa kumpanya.

Kahapon, may isa akong kausap na pilosopo (yung tutuo ha?). Ang plano niya any magkaroon kami ng "work shop" o kung ano mang tawag duon na magpapabago sa mga pag-uugali ng mga ito. Ito yung tinatawag niya "meditasyon". May kapalit na halaga, syempre naman, pero ayus lang naman ito sa aking kaibigan.

Ang meditasyon na ito ay isinasagawa na ng unang grupo bago sila mag-umpisa ng kanilang mga gawain, at nakikita ko ang butihing dulot nito sa. Ngunit maaga pa para bigyan ko ng papuri sapagkat ito'y bago pa lamang.

Natutuwa ako sa isang empleyado na naka-dalo na nagbiro sa akin habang kami'y nagku-kwentuhan na medyo napapatagal dahil sa kasarapang pagku-kweto. Ang sabi niya... "Teka, balik na ako sa office, "LUGI" ako, sila nagtatrabaho at ako "TAMBAY", balik na ako dun pare.'

Alam kong pabiro iyun, ngunit may dating, hindi ba? At nakatutuwang marinig ito sa isang "utak empleyado" na marahil hindi na ngayon.

May nabanggit ang pilosopo na, ang karamihan sa mga "utak empleyado" ay mga hindi makatotohanan sa mga sarili, gaya ng pag respeto sa mga may-ari ng kumpanya o mga nagpapasahod sa kanila. Ang pagrespeto daw ay dapat manggaling sa pagiging indibidwal at hindi dahil, "amo ko yan", "mawawalan ako ng trabaho", "siya ang nagpapasahod sa akin", at iba pang mga tinatawag na "panlabas na kaanyuhan". Kaya naman, hindi nagiging pruduktibo ang manggagawa. Nagiging de-susi ang mga ito na kung ano ang iutos, yun lang ang susundin.

Sa maikli naming pag-uusap, napag-muni-muni ko na "tama nga naman sya". Kaya ang plano namning magkaibigan, ay isabay ang work-shop na tatagal lamang ng tatlong oras, sa "thanksgiving party" nito, na malapit naring maganap.

Sana nga magkaruon ito ng katuturan at ng magandang resulta ng sa gayon, maipakalat ko pa at patuloy na makatulong sa mga "utak empleyado".

Balitaan ko kayo, kung ano ang susunod na mangyayari.

the_BuGs

Dec 6, 2005, 02:31 AM

meron pa dyan yung tipong ganito "Ano yan lang sahod mo? eh samantala yung kaibigan ko na kapareho ng trabaho mo eh malaki ang sahod! tapos ikaw ganyan tsk tsk tsk" kaya yun imbes na magpursige magtrabaho tinamad kasi hindi daw "WORTH" kaya ayaw ibigay ang 100% na trabaho pero yun pala naiingit lang pala sya dun sa taong yun dahil mas maliit sahod nya :D

magaling mandamay ang mga utak empleyado

JoYcE`TiK

Dec 6, 2005, 09:44 AM

utak empleyado rin yata ako eh.

it's my first job as a nurse in this nursing home. they trained me to be a treatment nurse, they gave me good orientation, and they 'accomodated me' so they say because they 'tried' to give me a regular schedule.

now i quit because another facility is giving me $4 raise and a regular schedule. i just gave my resignation letter this morning. my boss asked me 'where's your loyalty? aren't you grateful?' all this guilt trip on utang na loob. but hey, i'm only one of a few.

omeng

Dec 9, 2005, 03:46 PM

SILENTMAX

Dec 12, 2005, 12:23 PM

as an employer i would be frustrated if this happened to me. as it is training has exponential costs.

its true though that there is a vast shortage of nurses in the states. problem is getting them there with a visa.

if you are a nurse who is already has a visa in the states i know of a registry in L.A. who are dying to hire you.

bitter_me

Dec 21, 2005, 12:45 AM

utak empleyado- masyadong mayabang sa company where he's working(especially if multinational company)...claiming as if he owns the company..pero pag tinanggal naman sya wala naman effect sa company, kung baga d naman sya asset talaga.

- sa tingin nila impossible na maging sobrang yaman at ito'y panaginip lang.

Trevi

Dec 24, 2005, 09:15 AM

JOB - J(UST) A(BOVE) B(ROKE).

Share ko lang.

In the building where we hold office in ORTIGAS, ang daming mga mayabang na empleyado. Dahil NO SMOKING in the whole building, most Yosi breaks are done in the ROOFDECK. Doon makikita mo ang latest sa Fashion, accessories at CELFONE including PDA's. One time, while I was there there were a group of Young Ladies (age 23-30's siguro, malamang, mga Call Center Reps) smoking. There was an OLD man (in his early 70's) who was there for the fresh air WRITING in his NOTEBOOK/PAD - I overheard them talking, atually *****ing about how "kawawa" this MAN was and that "because he was OLD, mukhang "purdoy" to afford a PDA... sabay labas nila ang mga PDA's (na binili siguro sa Credit Card kaya maxxed out) Nabanas ako..I walked to the OLD man (whom I knew) and literally shouted his name.......MR. DEE....yes, as in MR. HOWARD DEE (the owner/retired banker; balae of Cory Aquino, head of a philanthropic Foundation).....shocked ang mga GIRLS (Mr. Dee is one of our famous rarely seen tenants) ...akala nila kung sino lang ito...E hindi nila alam na baka ang net worth nilang lahat combined e singkong duling lang ni Mr. Dee.....Sorry for dissing BUT i really get pissed of when other people judge you by what you have (or perceived lack of it) on you.

tidus1203

Dec 24, 2005, 10:18 AM

RIGOR

Dec 25, 2005, 07:16 PM

e ang problema sa mga empleyado ngayon e they think only of the present without pondering about the future..***** kung fresh grad ka ok lang naman bumili ka ng sapatos,damit o kahit na cellphone... problema kasi sa kanila sa kadahilanang wlang masyadong pera binubuhos na lang sa porma...

the best thing to do kung ikaw ay empleyado e from time to time mag reassess ng goals sa buhay para malaman natin kung ano **** ang gusto natin gawin..

gustymoon

Dec 25, 2005, 10:12 PM

When I was an employee (and single) many years back I was also living on "projected income" - maxxed out ang credit card at lahat the "gives" sa office pinatulan. Branded head to toe ang suot ko. May car plan; pa- HK - HK to shop. Feeling and looking mayaman. Pero truth is, walang man lang akong 5T sa savings account ko.

Ngayong ako na ang EMPLOYER, sa totoo lang, mas maganda pa ang suot ng mga empleyado namin...pero Net worth ko has grown leaps and bounds. Funny thing is mas naging humble ako.

crazyfunk88

Dec 26, 2005, 02:44 PM

ang masasabi ko lang ay e2: marami sa atin ang hindi nakukuntento. yun lang! lahat na lang ng bagay gusto mapasakanya e ala namang ginagawa...ang alam pa ng karamihan pag my trabaho na sila pwede nang bilhin lahat.

** sa amin halos lahat coworkers ko pilit tinitingnan ang sahod ng iba at ico-compare sa sahod nila. "Buti ka pa ganyan sahod...buti ka pa mataas ang sahod mo...buti ka pa mas mataas ang sahod mo...libre naman jan...pa-shot naman jan..."

aarg! kun sana sila pinagbuti ang gawa di sana mataas din sahod nila hindi un puro reklamo...hindi un pasosyalan.

sa isang emplyadong tulad ko na na minimum ang sahod, kelangan lahat tipirin. dapat my gagamitin/magagastos pa hanggang sa next na sweldo...salamat na lang kun my masobra...

mahirap kc ang utang, baka di mabayaran...

crazyfunk88

Dec 26, 2005, 02:52 PM

PinoySaKSA

Dec 28, 2005, 09:59 PM

^^ Super agree ako..... A lot of employees (especially mga feeling mataas sweldo na hindi naman in reality) are pasiklab in terms of their items and gadgets pero palabanan ng bank accounts walang wala!

totoo ka dyan... try to go to a food court sa mall... grabe ang mga pormahan... eh akong nag-sa-saudi, kapag itinabi mo mo sa kanila, mukha akong tagalinis ng banyo.. hehehehe... ang celfone ko 3 yrs old na...

naiisip ko minsan, magkano kaya ang pera ng mga ito sa bulsa nila? nasasabi ko na lang sa sarili ko na at least wala akong credit card, and if i want, i can buy a couple of 29 inch tv's buwan-buwan... nang hindi nagsa-suffer ang daily budget ko...

omeng

Mar 6, 2006, 08:03 PM

Magandang gabi sa inyong lahat (7:45pm na sa orasan ko).

Hindi kami natuloy sa workshop na binabanggit ko sa kadahilanang kulang sa budget. Yung mamang pilosopo kasi naniningil ng pitong libo. Masakit sa bulsa sabi ng kaibigan ko. Ako na lang ang pinagsalita at hindi naman ako nakapaghanda masyado. :(

Sa tagaytay kami ng punta, maganda ang tanawin at nakapagrelax ng kaunti ngunit pagod na rin ng bumalik sa maynila. Nakakalungkot isipin na mabilis makalimot ang mga may "utak empleyado". Matapos makarinig ng mga salitang "ikakabuti" nila bilang empleyado, ay ganun pa rin ang mapagmamasdan mo sa kanilang pang-araw araw na gawaing upisina.

Sa abril, muli ay magkakaroon kami ulit ng workshop. Ang pangako ko sa aking kaibigan ay paghahandaan ko ang aking mga leksyon. Sana nga.. maipon ko ang mga materyales na kinakailangan ko.

Maaari niyo ba akong tulungan ang pag-gawa ng "theme" ko? Ang naiisip ko kasi ay ang ganito...

"How to be the best person that you can be?"

Malayo ba sa temang pinag-uusapan? Naiisip ko kasi na hindi lang naman nagtatapos ang buhay sa pagiging empleyado sa loob at labas ng opisina, hindi ba?

"Best person can also be best employee, right?"

"Best person can also be best father/mother, right?"

"Best person can also be best brother/sister, right?"

"Best person can also be best citizen, right?"

May mga suhesyon ba kayo na maaari kong kapulutan at maiakma sa aking gagawing pagsasalita? kung mayroon, huwag ng mahiya. Nagpapauna na ako ng pasasalamat. :)

Hanggang sa muli.

omeng

Mar 7, 2006, 11:29 AM

Utak empleyado = utak robot?

Siguro hindi naman, kasi nga, wala namang utak ang robot. :D

Siguro, utak empleyado = kilos robot. :naughty:

Kadalasan yan ang mga nagaganap sa loob ng mga opisina, lalung-lalo na sa mga empleyado ng gobyerno.

Kulang na kulang sa pag-iisip. Tamad gumawa ng paraan upang mapabuti ang serbisyo. Kesyo eto ang SOP, sumusunod lang ako sa boss ko, wala akong magagawa, pasensya na sir, at kung ano pang mga dahilan. Ngunit pag nilapitan mo na mismo ang "boss" nila, ah eto, kuntodo asikaso. mag-iisip ng mga paraan para magawan ng paraan ang ninanais ng kustomer. Siguro nga, kaya sila ang Boss o naging boss. :D

Pansin ko din, mas mahuhusay makipag-usap ang mga namiminuno kaysa sa kanilang kinakakasakupan. May pagkadiplomatiko na kahit inis na ang customer ay magiging mahinahon ito at magkakaroon ng magandang resulta.

Hindi ba nakikita ng mga may utak empleyado ang mga ganitong pangyayari? Mahirap bang tularan ang ganitong pagseserbisyo? Bakit kaytataas ng mga ihi nila samantalang ang mga amo ay kaybababa?

Nakakatawang isipin na pagpatuloy silang may taglay utak empleyado sa kangkungan pupulutin. ;)

polaris54

Mar 10, 2006, 02:49 PM

i think as employees, if our perception of being employees lies on "monthly salary, promotion after tenureship, and bosses dictating us what to do next", then probably we dont progress from there and every flaw we see in the company may hinder us to do more for the company.
as employees, we have to think like "entrepreneurs" themselves, as owners of the company, as if we want to make a difference.
we have to love our job.
ive been to 3 companies already. but with the current one, im inlove with my job. kaya i rarely come in late (and im improving... habit formation haha) and never been absent (dont plan to).

...wala lang just a thought. related man sa current flow ng topic or not. hehe

joshua69

Mar 10, 2006, 07:21 PM

nung binata ako...bulagsak din ako sa pera.....***** hindi na...actuall last two years....napadaan kc ako sa powerbooks, then me nakita akong isang book kulay blue....rich dad poor dad....hmmm..curious lang...binasa ko *** likod...hmmm business book pala....bakit kaya naging rich dad poor dad...title nitong book na to...mura lang naman , cge bilhin ko...mabasa ng weekend...tapos ko na kasing basahin *** davinci code eh....nung mabasa ko *** mga 10 pages ...potah...galing...ganda..na inspire ako...binasa ko lahat...napuyat ako...****** galing...cmula nun nabago na buhay ko...bili ako ng series...tapos bili din ako ng ke francisco colayco....me konting kontradiksyon ang book nila..pero i dont care.....basta mahalaga....hindi na ko impulsive buyer....ika nga...alam ko na kung san dadalhin ang pera ko....

uitf, mutual funds, buy and sell, real state.... ok na ko...for sure...oks na future ng anak ko...

dapat pala nabasa ko na tong book mga ganitong klaseng books na to nung high school pa lang ako...***** mas mayaman na ko *****...

he he...ano ibig kong sabihin.....dapat

MAISAMA SA CURRICULUM SA HIGHSCHOOL ANG "FINANCIAL LITERACY"...

PARA MABURA NA TONG THREAD NA TO!!!
ANO SA PALAGAY MO OMENG???

Jedd

Mar 10, 2006, 07:40 PM

Kung lahat siguro ng kinupit ko simula elementary hanggang high school ay itinabi ko at nilagay sa isang trust fund o di kaya time deposit, malamang mayaman na ako. :rotflmao:

Utak-Empleyado

Noong nasa Manila ako at manager na rin, ang suweldo ko ay tamang-tama lamang.

Ngayong nasa barko na ako at sampung beses ang tinaas ng sahod ko, bakit eto'y tamang-tama pa rin?!

:grrr: :bop:

Jedd

Mar 10, 2006, 08:02 PM

Buhay Empleyado Money Management Disasters
(Based on Personal Experiences)

1. Bought a car
2. Leased a condo
3. Splurged on Tech gadgets (iBook, iPod, lahat ng may "i" sa simula)
4. Traveled to Singapore
5. Bought a $200-worth MontBlanc pen!!!

Eto po'y mga naging pagkakamali ko last year. Sa unang kontrata ko sa barko, wala akong naipundar na asset (based on Rich Dad, Poor Dad). Medyo huli na nang nabasa ko ang magagandang libro at namulat ako sa aking mga pagkakamali. Kung hindi ako tumigil ng maaga, malamang graduate na ang anak ko sa college, nagbabarko pa rin ako. Ikatlong kontrata ko na po, at sana'y maipatuloy ko ang aking (ayon kay SilentMax) FOCUS para maaga naman akong makapag-business at maagang makapag-retire.

Samples lang po ito, maihahambing din ito sa maliliit na bagay tulad ng cellphone, unlimited DSL na di naman pang-business, etc. Sana'y wag nang pamarisan...

Kung isasabuhay lang talaga ang ASSET vs. LIABILITY and CASHFLOW concepts, malayo ang mararating ng isang empleyado o di kaya'y entrepreneur.

Saludo pa rin ako sa Pinoy!

omeng

Mar 11, 2006, 11:55 AM

omeng

Mar 11, 2006, 12:01 PM

he he...ano ibig kong sabihin.....dapat

MAISAMA SA CURRICULUM SA HIGHSCHOOL ANG "FINANCIAL LITERACY"...

PARA MABURA NA TONG THREAD NA TO!!!
ANO SA PALAGAY MO OMENG???

di ako mapalagay. :D

regs

Mar 13, 2006, 07:16 PM

I love this thread!

Jedd

Mar 13, 2006, 07:31 PM

My wife is a very good medical transcriptionist. In fact she's already one of the training managers cum Module and Concept managers.

She created a turn-key system for startup medical transcription companies and her company sold it for more than a million (and still selling). Her next project: home-based online medtrans training.

What did she get? P5,000.00 Christmas bonus.

Sigh. Buhay empleyado. Bow.

regs

Mar 13, 2006, 08:28 PM

add ko lang...

i have this friend, pharmacist na ha...unang sahod nya 5T, di na kuntento, lipat sa ibang company...sa company 2 ang sahod is 7T, di pa rin nakuntento...sa company 3 10-15T na ata...di pa rin nakuntento, lumipat uli...ask ko kun bakit ** lumipat sabi malayo daw...hay, kun ano mahirap abutin ng iba, tinatapon ng marami.

hmm.... sapul ata ako, ang layo kse ng trabaho ko e.. balak ko na umalis, e kung mag byahe ka naman ng 4 na oras isang araw e hindi ba malayo yun? or utak empleyado kse ako? :depressed:

mitsui2050

Mar 13, 2006, 11:45 PM

Hi, I am not sure if this is the correct thread but here goes. I resigned from a company I worked for over 2 years because there was just too much work. I however left in very good terms with this company.

I am now employed in a new company for 3 months. I am ok with my new company but I must admit that I miss my old job. Two weeks ago, my former boss called me up and asked to meet with me. In the meeting, I was asked to come back to my previous job with a significant increase in salary and sort of a promotion. I was also told that they will be forwarding a formal offer letter so I could better decide.

Its been two weeks and no letter has arrived. I am now confused. Can anyone give me some advice? What are the pros and cons given this situation? Is it possible that this is all just a sick joke? My current employer is also in the same industry as my previous employer although they are not direct competitors, if I were to go back to my previous employer, we will bump into each other eventually.

beefnmushroom

Mar 14, 2006, 02:44 AM

I love this thread!

why do you love this thread? :confused:

regs

Mar 14, 2006, 06:37 AM

why do you love this thread? :confused:

well, it's very informative and makes you think what is your current mindset.. hmm... what am I

regs

Mar 14, 2006, 06:43 AM

omeng

Mar 14, 2006, 10:00 AM

mitsui2050, just give a ring to your former boss and ask regarding the letter.

omeng

Mar 14, 2006, 10:11 AM

regs,

kahapon, napagusapan namin si dr. lucio tan. na sya parin ang pinakamayamang pinoy sa pinas. Nabanggit niya na napakaliit naman daw magpasahod. ang sabi ko naman, dalawa lang naman yan, kung naliliitan ng sahod ang mga empleyado under niya, then resign or kung hindi naman, i-fire out mo si lucio. :D

maraming naiinis kay dr.tan pero kung tutuusin, napakalaki ng kontribution niya sa ekonomiya ng bansa at hindi ito maunawaan ng mga may utak-empleyado.

circa

Mar 14, 2006, 04:28 PM

di talga tayo makuntento sa sweldo diba? kahit itaas pa nila yan ng 100%..
ang pagkakaiba siguro ng empleyado at amo e pag empleyado ka nasa amo mo ang desisyon kung ipromote ka, kahit maging kabayo ka sa pag tatrabaho e kung may personal na galit naman sayo o bulag ang amo mo, e hindi ka ipopromote, kung amo ka naman, nasa sarili mong diskarte kung mag tatagumpay ka, kung problema mo employeado mo, e hindi ka ***** marunong humawak ng empleyado, kung sa benta naman, e baka hindi ka magaling mag benta ng produkto mo.. pero kung nagawa mo lahat ng tama, wala akong maisip na dahilan bakit hindi magtatagumpay ang isang amo..

JOB talga nga naman, Just Over Broke

Who doesn't want to be rich, we all do & you'll never be rich by being an employee unless you're into sports, showbiz or work abroad & bring the money here etc.. Read the book how to own your own corporation, same writer ng rich dad poor dad.
I worked for 5 years & made the company i worked for richer & me just fine.

It's never too late, start small. "they best way to plant an oak tree was 35 years ago, the 2nd best way is to plant it now."

God bless!

sal paradise

Mar 15, 2006, 03:26 AM

yung mga utak emplyeado na magaganda ang cellphone, bili nila yun sa sariling pera. karamihan galing sa bonus, o pinag-ipunan. hindi naman kasi sila makabili ng bahay o kotse, kaya siguro ine-enjoy na lang kung anong kayang abutin ng maliit nilang sweldo. sila rin ang pinagkakakitaan ng mga utak-entrpreneur na nagbebenta ng mga cellphones, accessories atbp. at isa pa, yung pagka-adik sa kung ano ang pinaka-latest at pinaka high tech, dala na rin yan ng planned obsolescence na malamang ay hindi utak-empleyado ang nakaisip.

yung starbucks, mali nga yon kung maliit na nga sweldo mo panay starbucks ka pa. pero isipin ninyo, yung mga utak empleyado, ilang beses ba makapag-out of town sa isang taon? baka minsan lang, office outing pa. yung pagpunta sa starbucks, siguro once or twice month, parang bakasyon na sa kanila yun. para silang bumisita sa isang lugar kung saan sa presyo ng isang mahal na kape ay ma-eenjoy mo yung ambience, at pagsisilbihan ka ng barista na may american accent. saka...pera naman nila yung ginagastos nila.

yung pag-porma, ikaw ba naman kinundisyon ka na kailangan proper business attire at maganda ang itsura sa interview pa lang para magka-trabaho, e di poporma ka rin. saka wala na ngang laman wallet mo, poporma ka pa bang dugyot? sobrang kawawa ka naman nun. saka...pera naman nila ginagastos nila

ang utak empleyado, hindi nandadaya sa buwis. hindi pwede kasi kinakaltas na yun sa sweldo...

ang utak empeyado, kung mangurakot man, big time na siguro yung isang ream ng bond paper...

ang utak empleyado, hindi nang-eexploit. katunayan, sila yung exploited dahil talaga namang mababa ang sweldo ng karaniwang empleyado kumpara sa cost of living. oo pwedeng mag-resign kung nababaan sa sweldo, pero madali lang sabihin yon. ganon ba karami ang available na trabaho? ganon ba kaganda ang sisema ng edukasyon sa bansa?

utak empleyado o utak entrepreneur man, iisa lang ang kapupuntahan--sa huli pagpipyestahan lang ng mga bulate ang utak at katawan...

masaya ka ba? wala ka bang tinatapakan?

tanungin nyo yung mga utak empleyado sa starbucks...

vroom22

Mar 16, 2006, 06:22 PM

buhay empleyado?

Ito feeling ko parang akong robot. Mag time in ng 8 at time out ng 5 paulit ulit ang ginagawa. At pag kinakailangang lumapas ng 5 walang overtime overtawad ang tawag ng iba.

rexdflex

Mar 16, 2006, 10:12 PM

share ko lang, not sure kung related dito pero i think it is, somehow sa pagiging empleyado at entrep o ang pangarap ng empleyado maging entrep o kung san ka ba dapat nararapat....

What Should I Do With My Life?
The real meaning of success -- and how to find it.

It's time to define the new era. Our faith has been shaken. We've lost confidence in our leaders and in our institutions. Our beliefs have been tested. We've discredited the notion that the Internet would change everything (and the stock market would buy us an exit strategy from the grind). Our expectations have been dashed. We've abandoned the idea that work should be a 24-hour-a-day rush and that careers should be a wild adventure. Yet we're still holding on.

We're seduced by the idea that picking up the pieces and simply tweaking the formula will get the party started again. In spite of our best thinking and most searing experience, our ideas about growth and success are mired in a boom-bust mentality. Just as LBOs gave way to IPOs, the market is primed for the next engine of wealth creation. Just as we traded in the pinstripes and monster bonuses of the Wall Street era for T-shirts and a piece of the action during the startup revolution, we're waiting to latch on to the new trappings of success. (I understand the inclination. I've surfed from one boom to the next for most of my working life -- from my early days as a bond trader to my most recent career as a writer tracking the migration of my generation from Wall Street to Silicon Valley.)

There's a way out. Instead of focusing on what's next , let's get back to what's first . The previous era of business was defined by the question, Where's the opportunity? I'm convinced that business success in the future starts with the question, What should I do with my life? Yes, that's right. The most obvious and universal question on our plates as human beings is the most urgent and pragmatic approach to sustainable success in our organizations. People don't succeed by migrating to a "hot" industry (one word: dotcom) or by adopting a particular career-guiding mantra (remember "horizontal careers"?). They thrive by focusing on the question of who they really are -- and connecting that to work that they truly love (and, in so doing, unleashing a productive and creative power that they never imagined). Companies don't grow because they represent a particular sector or adopt the latest management approach. They win because they engage the hearts and minds of individuals who are dedicated to answering that life question.

This is not a new idea. But it may be the most powerfully pressing one ever to be disrespected by the corporate world. There are far too many smart, educated, talented people operating at quarter speed, unsure of their place in the world, contributing far too little to the productive engine of modern civilization. There are far too many people who look like they have their act together but have yet to make an impact. You know who you are. It comes down to a simple gut check: You either love what you do or you don't. Period.

Those who are lit by that passion are the object of envy among their peers and the subject of intense curiosity. They are the source of good ideas. They make the extra effort. They demonstrate the commitment. They are the ones who, day by day, will rescue this drifting ship. And they will be rewarded. With money, sure, and responsibility, undoubtedly. But with something even better too: the kind of satisfaction that comes with knowing your place in the world. We are sitting on a huge potential boom in productivity -- if we could just get the square pegs out of the round holes.

Of course, addressing the question, What should I do with my life? isn't just a productivity issue: It's a moral imperative. It's how we hold ourselves accountable to the opportunity we're given. Most of us are blessed with the ultimate privilege: We get to be true to our individual nature. Our economy is so vast that we don't have to grind it out forever at jobs we hate. For the most part, we get to choose. That choice isn't about a career search so much as an identity quest. Asking The Question aspires to end the conflict between who you are and what you do. There is nothing more brave than filtering out the chatter that tells you to be someone you're not. There is nothing more genuine than breaking away from the chorus to learn the sound of your own voice. Asking The Question is nothing short of an act of courage: It requires a level of commitment and clarity that is almost foreign to our working lives.

During the past two years, I have listened to the life stories of more than 900 people who have dared to be honest with themselves. Of those, I chose 70 to spend considerable time with in order to learn how they did it. Complete strangers opened their lives and their homes to me. I slept on their couches. We went running together. They cried in my arms. We traded secrets. I met their families. I went to one's wedding. I witnessed many critical turning points.

These are ordinary people. People of all ages, classes, and professions -- from a catfish farmer in Mississippi to a toxic-waste inspector in the oil fields of Texas, from a police officer in East Los Angeles to a long-haul trucker in Pennsylvania, from a financier in Hong Kong to a minister at a church on the Oregon coast. These people don't have any resources or character traits that give them an edge in pursuing their dream. Some have succeeded; many have not. Only two have what accountants call "financial independence." Only two are so smart that they would succeed at anything they chose (though having more choices makes answering The Question that much harder). Only one, to me, is saintly. They're just people who faced up to it, armed with only their weaknesses, equipped with only their fears.

What I learned from them was far more powerful than what I had expected or assumed. The first assumption to get busted was the notion that certain jobs are inherently cool and that others are uncool. That was a big shift for me. Throughout the 1990s, my basic philosophy was this: Work=Boring, but Work+Speed+Risk=Cool. Speed and risk transformed the experience into something so stimulating, so exciting, so intense, that we began to believe that those qualities defined "good work." Now, betrayed by the reality of economic uncertainty and global instability, we're casting about for what really matters when it comes to work.

On my journey, I met people in bureaucratic organizations and bland industries who were absolutely committed to their work. That commitment sustained them through slow stretches and setbacks. They never watched the clock, never dreaded Mondays, never worried about the years passing by. They didn't wonder where they belonged in life. They were phenomenally productive and confident in their value. In places unusual and unexpected, they had found their calling, and those callings were as idiosyncratic as each individual.

And this is where the second big insight came in: Your calling isn't something you inherently "know," some kind of destiny. Far from it. Almost all of the people I interviewed found their calling after great difficulty. They had made mistakes before getting it right. For instance, the catfish farmer used to be an investment banker, the truck driver had been an entertainment lawyer, a chef had been an academic, and the police officer was a Harvard MBA. Everyone discovered latent talents that weren't in their skill sets at age 25.

Most of us don't get epiphanies. We only get a whisper -- a faint urge. That's it. That's the call. It's up to you to do the work of discovery, to connect it to an answer. Of course, there's never a single right answer. At some point, it feels right enough that you choose, and the energy formerly spent casting about is now devoted to making your choice fruitful.

This lesson in late, hard-fought discovery is good news. What it means is that today's confused can be tomorrow's dedicated. The current difficult climate serves as a form of reckoning. The tougher the times, the more clarity you gain about the difference between what really matters and what you only pretend to care about. The funny thing is that most people have good instincts about where they belong but make poor choices and waste productive years on the wrong work. Why we do this cuts to the heart of the question, What should I do with my life? These wrong turns hinge on a small number of basic assumptions that have ruled our working lives, career choices, and ambitions for the better part of two decades. I found hardly any consistencies in how the people I interviewed discovered what they love to do -- the human soul resists taxonomy -- except when it came to four misconceptions (about money, smarts, place, and attitude) that have calcified into hobbling fears. These are stumbling blocks that we need to uproot before we can find our way to where we really belong.

MONEY Doesn't Fund Dreams
Shouldn't I make money first -- to fund my dream? The notion that there's an order to your working life is an almost classic assumption: Pay your dues, and then tend to your dream. I expected to find numerous examples of the truth of this path. But I didn't find any.

Sure, I found tons of rich guys who were now giving a lot away to charity or who had bought an island. I found plenty of people who had found something meaningful and original to do after making their money. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the garden-variety fantasy: Put your calling in a lockbox, go out and make a ton of money, and then come back to the lockbox to pick up your calling where you left it.

It turns out that having the financial independence to walk away rarely triggers people to do just that. The reality is, making money is such hard work that it changes you. It takes twice as long as anyone plans for. It requires more sacrifices than anyone expects. You become so emotionally invested in that world -- and psychologically adapted to it -- that you don't really want to ditch it.

I met many people who had left the money behind. But having "enough" didn't trigger the change. It had to get personal: Something had to happen such as divorce, the death of a parent, or the recognition that the long hours were hurting one's children. (One man, Don Linn, left investment banking after he came home from a business trip and his two-year-old son didn't recognize him.)

The ruling assumption is that money is the shortest route to freedom. Absurdly, that strategy is cast as the "practical approach." But in truth, the opposite is true. The shortest route to the good life involves building the confidence that you can live happily within your means (whatever the means provided by the choices that are truly acceptable to you turn out to be). It's scary to imagine living on less. But embracing your dreams is surprisingly liberating. Instilled with a sense of purpose, your spending habits naturally reorganize, because you discover that you need less.

This is an extremely threatening conclusion. It suggests that the vast majority of us aren't just putting our dreams on ice -- we're killing them. Joe Olchefske almost lost his forever. Joe started out in life with an interest in government. In the early 1980s, he made what seemed like a minor compromise: When he graduated from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, he went into public finance. He wouldn't work in government, he'd work with government.

Joe went on to run Piper Jaffray in Seattle. By the mid-1990s, he realized that one little compromise had defined his life. "I didn't want to be a high-priced midwife," he said. "I wanted to be a mother. It was never my deal. It was my clients' deal. They were taking the risk. They were building hospitals and bridges and freeways, not me. I envied them for that."

One night, riding up the elevator of his apartment building, Joe met newly hired Seattle schools superintendent John Stanford. Soon after, Stanford offered Olchefske a job as his CFO -- and partner in turning the troubled school system around. Olchefske accepted. Stanford rallied the city around school reform and earned the nickname Prophet of Hope. Meanwhile, Olchefske slashed millions from the budget and bloodlessly fired principals, never allowing his passions to interfere with his decisions. People called him Prophet of Doom.

Then Stanford died suddenly of leukemia. It was one of the great crises in the city's history. Who could fill this void? Certainly not the green-eyeshade CFO. But Stanford's death transformed Olchefske. It broke him open, and he discovered in himself a new ability to connect with people emotionally, not just rationally. As the new superintendent, he draws on that gift more than on his private-sector skills. He puts up with a lot of bureaucrap, but he says that avoiding crap shouldn't be the objective in finding the right work. The right question is, How can I find something that moves my heart, so that the inevitable crap storm is bearable?

SMARTS Can't Answer The Question
If the lockbox fantasy is a universal and eternal stumbling block when it comes to answering The Question, the idea that smarts and intensity are the essential building blocks of success and satisfaction is a product of the past decade. A set of twin misconceptions took root during the celebration of risk and speed that was the 90s startup revolution. The first is the idea that a smart, motivated individual with a great idea can accomplish anything . The corollary is that work should be fun, a thrill ride full of constant challenge and change.

Those assumptions are getting people into trouble. So what if your destiny doesn't stalk you like a lion? Can you think your way to the answer? That's what Lori Gottlieb thought. She considered her years as a rising television executive in Hollywood to be a big mistake. She became successful but felt like a fraud. So she quit and gave herself three years to analyze which profession would engage her brain the most. She literally attacked the question. She dug out her diaries from childhood. She took classes in photography and figure drawing. She interviewed others who had left Hollywood. She broke down every job by skill set and laid that over a grid of her innate talents. She filled out every exercise in What Color Is Your Parachute?

Eventually, she arrived at the following logic: Her big brain loved puzzles. Who solves puzzles? Doctors solve health puzzles. Therefore, become a doctor. She enrolled in premed classes at Pepperdine. Her med-school applications were so persuasive that every school wanted her. And then -- can you see where this is headed? -- Lori dropped out of Stanford Medical School after only two and a half months. Why? She realized that she didn't like hanging around sick people all day.

The point is, being smarter doesn't make answering The Question easier. Using the brain to solve this problem usually only leads to answers that make the brain happy and jobs that provide what I call "brain candy." Intense mental stimulation. But it's just that: candy . A synthetic substitute for other types of gratification that can be ultimately more rewarding and enduring. As the cop in East L.A. said of his years in management at Rockwell, "It was like cheap wood that burns too fast."

I struggled with this myself, but not until I had listened to hundreds of others did the pattern make itself shockingly clear. What am I good at? is the wrong starting point. People who attempt to deduce an answer usually end up mistaking intensity for passion. To the heart, they are vastly different. Intensity comes across as a pale busyness , while passion is meaningful and fulfilling. A simple test: Is your choice something that will stimulate you for a year or something that you can be passionate about for 10 years?

This test is tougher than it seems on paper. In the past decade, the work world has become a battleground for the struggle between the boring and the stimulating. The emphasis on intensity has seeped into our value system. We still cling to the idea that work should not only be challenging and meaningful -- but also invigorating and entertaining. But really, work should be like life: sometimes fun, sometimes moving, often frustrating, and defined by meaningful events. Those who have found their place don't talk about how exciting and challenging and stimulating their work is. Their language invokes a different troika: meaningful, significant, fulfilling. And they rarely ever talk about work without weaving in their personal history.

PLACE Defines You
Every industry has a culture. And every culture is driven by a value system. In Hollywood, where praise is given too easily and thus has been devalued, the only honest metric is box-office receipts. So box-office receipts are all-important. In Washington, DC, some very powerful politicians are paid middling salaries, so power and money are not equal. Power is measured by the size of your staff and by how many people you can influence. In police work, you learn to be suspicious of ordinary people driving cars and walking down the street.

One of the most common mistakes is not recognizing how these value systems will shape you. People think that they can insulate themselves, that they're different. They're not. The relevant question in looking at a job is not What will I do? but Who will I become? What belief system will you adopt, and what will take on heightened importance in your life? Because once you're rooted in a particular system -- whether it's medicine, New York City, Microsoft, or a startup -- it's often agonizingly difficult to unravel yourself from its values, practices, and rewards. Your money is good anywhere, but respect and status are only a local currency. They get heavily discounted when taken elsewhere. If you're successful at the wrong thing, the mix of praise and opportunity can lock you in forever.

Don Linn, the investment banker who took over the catfish farm in Mississippi, learned this lesson the hard way. After years as a star at PaineWebber and First Boston, he dropped out when he could no longer bring himself to push deals on his clients that he knew wouldn't work. His life change smacked of foolish originality: 5.5 million catfish on 1,500 water acres. His first day, he had to clip the wings of a flock of geese. Covered in goose **** and blood, he wondered what he had gotten himself into. But he figured it out and grew his business into a $16 million operation with five side businesses. More important, the work reset his moral compass. In farming, success doesn't come at another farmer's expense. You learn to cooperate, sharing processing plants, feed mills, and pesticide-flying services.

Like Don, you'll be a lot happier if you aren't fighting the value system around you. Find one that enforces a set of beliefs that you can really get behind. There's a powerful transformative effect when you surround yourself with like-minded people. Peer pressure is a great thing when it helps you accomplish your goals instead of distracting you from them.

Carl Kurlander wrote the movie St. Elmo's Fire when he was 24. For years afterward, he lived in Beverly Hills. He wanted to move back to Pittsburgh, where he grew up, to write books, but he was always stopped by the doubt, Would it really make any difference to write from Pittsburgh instead of from Beverly Hills? His books went unwritten. Last year, when a looming Hollywood writers' strike coincided with a job opening in the creative-writing department at Pitt, he finally summoned the courage to move. He says that being in academia is like "bathing in altruism." Under its influence, he wrote his first book, a biography of the comic Louie Anderson.

ATTITUDE Is the Biggest Obstacle
Environment matters, but in the end, when it comes to tackling the question, What should I do with my life? it really is all in your head. The first psychological stumbling block that keeps people from finding themselves is that they feel guilty for simply taking the quest seriously. They think that it's a self-indulgent privilege of the educated upper class. Working-class people manage to be happy without trying to "find themselves," or so the myth goes.

But I found that just about anybody can find this question important. It's not just for free agents, knowledge workers, and serial entrepreneurs. I met many working-class people who found this question essential. They might have fewer choices, but they still care. Take Bart Handford. He went from working the graveyard shift at a Kimberley-Clark baby-wipes plant in Arkansas to running the Department of Agriculture's rural-development program. He didn't do this by just pulling up his bootstraps. His breakthrough came when his car was hit by a train, and he spent six months in bed exploring The Question.

Probably the most debilitating obstacle to taking on The Question is the fear that making a choice is a one-way ride, that starting down a path means closing a door forever.

"Keeping your doors open" is a trap. It's an excuse to stay uninvolved. I call the people who have the hardest time closing doors Phi Beta Slackers. They hop between esteemed grad schools, fat corporate gigs, and prestigious fellowships, looking as if they have their act together but still feeling like observers, feeling as if they haven't come close to living up to their potential.

Leela de Souza almost got lost in that trap. At age 15, Leela knew exactly what she wanted to be when she grew up: a dancer. She pursued that dream, supplementing her meager dancer's pay with work as a runway model. But she soon began to feel that she had left her intellect behind. So, in her early twenties, with several good years left on her legs, she took the SATs and applied to college. She paid for a $100,000 education at the University of Chicago with the money that she had earned from modeling and during the next seven years made a series of seemingly smart decisions: a year in Spain, Harvard Business School, McKinsey & Co., a White House Fellowship, high-tech PR. But she never got any closer to making a real choice.

Like most Phi Beta Slackers, she was cursed with tremendous ability and infinite choices. Figuring out what to do with her life was constantly on her mind. But then she figured something else out: Her need to look brilliant was what was keeping her from truly answering The Question. When she let go of that, she was able to shift gears from asking "What do I do next?" to making strides toward answering "To what can I devote my life?"

Asking "What Should I Do With My Life?" is the modern, secular version of the great timeless questions about our identity. Asking The Question aspires to end the conflict between who you are and what you do. Answering The Question is the way to protect yourself from being lathed into someone you're not. What is freedom for if not the chance to define for yourself who you are?

I have spent the better part of the past two years in the company of people who have dared to confront where they belong. They didn't always find an ultimate answer, but taking the question seriously helped get them closer. We are all writing the story of our own life. It's not a story of conquest. It's a story of discovery. Through trial and error, we learn what gifts we have to offer the world and are pushed to greater recognition about what we really need. The Big Bold Leap turns out to be only the first step.

Sidebar: One Size Does Not Fit All
Two different answers to one ultimate question

Organization Man

Of the 900 people who I talked to, only one has had the same employer for his entire adult life. His name is Russell Carpenter, he's 35, and he's an aerospace engineer at NASA Goddard. We can all learn from him. Russell began working at NASA during college. In exchange for his summers, they paid for his tuition and, later, financed his PhD. Russell is a GS-14, stuck to government pay scales. The money is okay, but it's never the reason to stay. He's building a guidance system for the newest type of satellite.

The halls and offices at NASA are quiet. These engineers are content with slowly pushing toward a solution. Which I took as Extractable Lesson number one: time frame. At NASA, Russell has found an intermediate time frame where he can accomplish the high-minded objectives that his division is charged with, but he's not under absurd pressure to do it all in 90 days.

Aerospace engineers are obsessed with redundancy and backup systems. Russell knows that metals give, that gears slip, and that motors overheat, and he plans for that in his designs. Not everything has to go right in order for it to work. And that way of thinking shows up in every aspect of his life, including how he achieves his ambitions. Which I took as Extractable Lesson number two: His backup plans do not lead to different destinations, such as "If I don't get into business school, I'll be a schoolteacher." His backup plans lead to the same destination, and if he has to arrive late by a back road, that's fine.

Later, Russell and I went to a baseball game, which clued me in to Extractable Lesson number three: Russell doesn't let himself get burned out. He doesn't think it's a big deal that he's only had one employer. His method is his secret, but it's no secret.

"So what do you do?" For five years, Marcela Widrig had a dream job that compensated her well, let her live in Barcelona, and paid for her frequent travel throughout Southern Europe. She sold modems for a big modem manufacturer. Modems were her means to her ends: money, travel, human connection.

When her company moved her to San Francisco, she suffered culture shock. The Internet was destroying everything that she loved about sales. The new ethos was speed. Get the deal done in a day! Don't even fly -- email makes it so easy! The human contact was gone.

The worst part was constantly being asked The Inevitable Cocktail-Party Question: "What do you do?" Marcela had been away long enough to have forgotten about this disgusting American custom. She found it degrading and reductive and mercenary. I too used to think that The Inevitable Cocktail-Party Question was a scourge on our society. But I'm starting to see that it is really about freedom to choose. A status system has evolved that values being unique and true even more than it values being financially successful.

In other words, if you don't like The Inevitable Cocktail-Party Question, maybe it's partly because you don't like your answer.

Marcela no longer liked her answer. She endured migraines and insomnia. After flying all the way to Hong Kong for a meeting that didn't even last one hour, she vowed, "I cannot sell one more modem." But she didn't quit for two more years. On her vacations, she flew to Switzerland to train in a school for deep-tissue massage. It was her way to move toward genuine human contact. The day she returned from one of her Switzerland trips, the modem company went under, and she was forced into her new life.

It took her about a year to drop the business-suit persona and truly embrace her new profession. The Inevitable Cocktail-Party Question no longer bothers her. "I do body work," she says. "I love what I do, and I think that comes across."

omeng

Mar 17, 2006, 09:12 AM

rexdflex, very nice articles.

omeng

Mar 17, 2006, 09:28 AM

utak empleyado = mapangatwiran

gandang pakinggan no? pero hindi eh.. nangangatwiran lagi sa maling mga rason.

sisisihin ang lahat na nasa paligid natin pero hindi ang sarili natin. kakatawa no? ay hindi.. nakaka-awa pala. :(

omeng

Mar 20, 2006, 09:12 AM

"Kapag wala ang pusa, nag-pipiyesta ang mga daga."

Hindi ba ganyan tayong mga may taglay "utak empleyado"? Kapag wala si bosing, kung ano-ano na ang pinag-gagawa natin. Chat dito, chat duon. Email dito, email duon. Tsismisan dito, tsismisan duon. Siyestahan dito, siyestahan duon. Tama nga na sabihing "peste" ang mga daga.

utak empleyado = peste sa kumpanya? siguro nga.

rexdflex

Mar 20, 2006, 10:23 AM

thanks omeng, i love reading articles, they are inspiring.

if I will think of a choice its quite easy to decide, whats difficult is finally doing what you really have decided, well at least in my case..

omeng

Mar 22, 2006, 10:13 AM

from tennisace @ YE..

How to Prevent Employee Burn-Out

Highly motivated employees are true assets to any organization. They're productive, energetic, eager to take on additional responsibilities, and pleasant to be with and work with. Furthermore, they spread their enthusiasm and work ethic to others.

But every organization, no matter what the industry or what the size, also inevitably has non-performing, unmotivated, burning out--or burnt-out--employees as well. Therefore, to increase success, every business owner needs to deal with this obstacle by identifying unmotivated employees and "turning them around." But turning them around isn't as easy at it may seem, especially because as the employer you can't really "make" anyone be motivated! Remember the old adage, "You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink"? That, in a nutshell, is true with people as well. You can't motivate them if they don't want to be motivated. But you're the boss, so what can you do? First, you need to identify the signs of a person on the verge of burnout. Then you must create the atmosphere that encourages these non-performing employees to refresh and motivate themselves.

Identifying the Signs of Burnout
What are the signs of a lack of motivation or burnout? One of the key red flag symptoms is a decrease in performance or productivity. This is especially obvious when comparing an individual's past performance with current performance. Absent any serious reasons to explain away the change, de-motivation is usually the culprit. This leads us to the next red flag: an increase in the number of days missed. If you're in the midst of the flu season and a number of other employees call in sick, then ignore this absence. However, if someone who's rarely sick starts to miss work, then the likelihood is that de-motivation is the germ.

Here are more signals you need to be looking for and must begin to address:

• Attitude changes. The employee is usually up-beat, but now appears quiet, somber, sullen, disagreeable or even moody. Or the reverse--the employee becomes far more outgoing, energized or talkative than normal, typical or acceptable.

• Comments from co-workers that "something is wrong."

• Stress reactions. The job isn't being completed as well as in the past; the employee is jittery, short-tempered or difficult to get along with.

• Tardiness. The employee is arriving late in the morning and leaving early or at the exact end of the workday or shift.

• Change in lunch and coffee breaks. The employee takes more time than usual or doesn't take them at all.

• Decrease in positive interaction with other employees. He "just doesn't get along" as well with others anymore.

• Increase in errors.

• Decrease in productivity. There's an oncrease in time spent on projects without a subsequent increase in quality or productivity.

Okay, you've now seen eight symptoms of burning out or unmotivated behavior and attitudes. Observation is the first step. So what else can you do to move the employee along and assist him or her in the process of self-motivation? The first thing you should do is gather information from previous performance reviews and from other managers or supervisors. Determine if this situation is a trend or just a blip in performance. In either case, you need to intervene as follows:

1. Meet with the individual. Begin by asking the employee his or her perception of their performance or productivity. Then based on your data and observations, share your specific views of the change in productivity and attitude.

2. Identify previous motivators (the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior). Determine which factors are no longer present and/or determine which ones no longer work as motivators.

3. Identify new motivators. Frederick Herzberg, who's writings of workplace psychology in the 1950s and 60s is still heavily relied upon today, offers the following most commonly used and effective motivators:
• First, identify areas where the individual can experience a sense of achievement, such as accomplishing a task, finishing a report, meeting with colleagues or creating new ideas.

• Next, be certain to recognize and reward the individual for a job well done or work in progress. This form of positive feedback usually encourages increased performance and therefore the individual receives even greater recognition or comment from you, the boss.

• Provide opportunities for personal or professional growth on the job. This can be accomplished through attendance at seminars or workshops or by observing other employees in other jobs. In addition, by creating a concrete career pathway (a plan for future career growth), you can motivate this person to strive toward the next job or position in your organization.

• Ensure that you're providing appropriate amounts of guidance and supervision so the employee knows exactly what's expected. Also, ensure the communication between the two of you is frequent enough, appropriate and adequate to ensure the employee knows exactly what the road to success looks like. You might discover that the current job is too challenging or perhaps not challenging enough to maintain the person's interest and productivity.

• Try rotating or exchanging the job responsibilities between several employees. This form of cross-training injects fresh, new energy and challenges into the daily job performance.

• And finally, try expanding the breadth and depth of responsibilities. This too can energize the individual who is not feeling challenged.

Basically, all of these proven techniques serve to assist you and the employee in evaluating how well they fit into a current role. This is an easy and extremely effective way to increase employee motivation, job satisfaction and productivity. After all, isn't this what you want from your employees?

Ninong Boodel

Mar 24, 2006, 05:55 PM

Good stuff. Learned a lot from this thread.

CaRaMBa

Apr 14, 2006, 03:53 PM

I don't think I can go on for years doing what I'm doing now - being in the office/meetings/etc. for 11-12 hours a day. I think it's really wrong. And imagine, I don't have my own family yet! There's more to life than this.

So, my friends and I are trying to do something about it... Wish us luck. :)

omeng

Apr 17, 2006, 08:17 AM

@ Ninong Boodel
I'm glad to hear that. Hope more pexers will contribute.

@ Caramba
Best of luck, personal and career.

SILENTMAX

Apr 17, 2006, 08:27 AM

@caramba
wow baliktad tayu nang mundo.

ive gone into the rank and file world

i now work at a call center :D
i need to know how a corporation works

but most importantly i need to see the world thru an employee's eyes

ive been an entrepreneur thru out my life and i hope this experience is something i can really learn from.

btw on your new venture if you need help or need some advice just pm me i can give u my cell number and we could bounce of ideas. and i might have some insights or advice thats worthwhile :)

edit add:
job1 manager main branch internet cafe
job2 manager mall branch internet cafe
job3 Private stock market trader
job4 President of a startup outsourcing company.
job5 Call center agent at a reputable mulitnational company

my friends has been telling me na "sa kalye ka nyan pupulutin"
but hopefully di mangyayari yun *okay*

omeng

Apr 17, 2006, 08:32 AM

eherm.. at bakit sa kanya you are at liberty to tell? ikaw ha. Ha ha. :D

SILENTMAX

Apr 17, 2006, 08:38 AM

@omeng
mukhang mabait eh. plus good mood ako ngayun hehehhehe.

omeng

Apr 17, 2006, 09:14 AM

:lol:

Anyhoo... Natuloy ang workshop namin nuong nakaraang Marso, napaaga. Nakakalungkot na nakakatuwa na nakakatawa ang mga pangyayaring naganap.

Inumpisahan ko ang aking pagsasalita sa "tamang pakikinig". Alam naman natin na kapag may nagsasalita sa harapan, ang daming hindi nakikinig. :D

Sayang naman ang mga sasabihin ko, kung wala halos nakikinig. Sayang ang laway. :lol:

Mayroong nagbubulungan para mag update sa Pinoy Big Brother, at mayroon din namang naguusap para sa Pinoy Big Problem (si gloringring et al daw). Mayroong mga nakikipag sex, eheste.. nakikipag-text. Mayroong mga lumilipad ang isip, nangangarap ng gising, ika nga. :D

Ano nga ba ang "tamang pakikinig"? Yung bang ang atensyon ay isang daang porsyento sa nagsasalita sa harapan. Hindi lang dapat naririnig kundi dapat naiintindihang mabuti ang nilalaman ng mga sinasalita. Dapat din maging "neutral", ang niiibig kong sabihin, dapat bukas ang kaisipan sa mga sinasabi ng nagsasalita. hindi't porke pogi.. errr.. mas nakababata ang nasa unahan ay mas marami kang nalalaman sa kanya o alam mo na ang lahat dahil sa iyong katandaan. Kung narinig mo na ang mga sinasabi ng speaker, hayaan mong muli na iyong sariwain, hindi yung.. "alam ko na yan". At syempre, pina-turn off ko ang mga mobile phone nila ng hindi naaalis ang kanilang atensyon sa tamang pakikinig.

... sa muling pagbabalik...

omeng

Apr 17, 2006, 05:05 PM

... maituloy ko..

Ang sumunod na mga pangyayari ay naganap sa pagitan ng alas dyes ng umaga at alas dose ng tanghali. :D (cencia na favorite ko ang 24)

Matapos ang usapin ukol sa "tamang pakikinig", pumunta kami sa pinaka buod ng dapat pag-usapan.

" G O A L "

sa taga-log LAYUNIN o MITHIIN.

Mayroon ba tayong mga GOAL sa buhay-buhay na ito? Ano bang layunin mo sa buhay? Ang isa bang empleyado ay may mithiin sa buhay? Mayroong tinatawag na PERSONAL GOAL. Pansariling layunin, ika nga. Mayroon namang tinatawag na COMPANY GOAL. At kng ano-ano pang GOAL pero dito sa dalawang ito kami nag-konsentreyt.

Personal goal gaya ng mga..

ah.. kailangan may bago akong BF this year. :D

nakuh.. kailangan may bago akong motorbike bago matapos ang taon.

at kung anut-ano pa na walang kinalaman sa kumpanya. Ngunit maituturing din personal goal ang iniisip ng isang empleyado na umangat sa kanyang kinalalagyan. Maaring promotion sa pwesto o madagdagan ang sahod na ninanais.

COMPANY GOAL gaya ng..

Target sales this year.

Target clients before end of 3rd quarter.

etc. etc.

Sa bawat layunin o GOAL, may mga tinatawag na short term, mid-term at long term.

Minadali ko ang Topic na ito... ang ginawa ko;
Short term = 1 year

Mid term = 5 years

Long term = 10 years

Ngunit ano ba ang mga pamantayan bago makabuo o makagawa ng GOAL? "Pamantayan"??? Mayroon ba naman talagang ganito? Sabi nila, mayroon. E ano nga? :D

Yung iba kasi, napagkakamalang GOAL yung tinatawag na Ilusyon. nandyan yung.. ang GOAL ko ay tumama ng LOTTO. Magiging asawa ko si Shaina Magdayao. Yung tipong may pagka-inkredibol ba.

Dapat may batayan ka upang hindi maging ilusyon lang ang GOAL mo sa buhay mo.. sa kumpanyang pinapasukan mo.. blah blah blah

Teka.. yosi break muna ako. :D

omeng

Apr 17, 2006, 06:54 PM

Ok...

Sa pagbuo ng GOALS dapat daw SMART ka. Anong smart? Ba't hindi Globe? Kornik no? :D

GOALS

S - simple
M - measurable
A - attainable
R - realistic
T - time bound

Ngunit tinanong ko sila... What is better than smart? Smarter, of course.

So, ang ginamit ko na bersyon ay...

GOALS

S - specific
M - measurable
A - attainable
R - risk
T - time bound
E - exciting
R - responsible and rewarding

So pinag-rambol-rambol ko na lang. Di ko kasi pwedeng i dis-regard ang bersyon na smart.. kasi yung ang gamit ng consultant-director ng kumpanya. :D

Anyway, dapat pala pag gagawa ka ng GOALS

Simple at Specific. Gusto mo maging pogi? Simple yan. Specific ba yan?Hindi ako sigurado. Baka kako, ilusyon yan, lalo na kung wala ng magagawa ang syensya. At kung umaangal na ang beautician sayo, sa magician ka pumunta at magbaka-sakali. :D

Iba na lang, gusto mo ng state-of-the-art cellphone this year. Anong klase? Anong tatak? Dapat specific. Tiyak mo kung anong brand.

Gusto mong tumaas ang sweldo mo? Sigurado ka bang yan ang gusto mo? O mas naghahangad ka ng promosyon.

Gusto natin lumaki ang kompanya. Simple rin yan. Pero again, dapat specific. May katiyakan sa pamamagitan ng Sales.

Measurable. Gaano kalaki? Dapat may sukat. Sing laki ba ng Ayala Corp ang gusto nating mangyari sa kumpanya? Gaano kalaking sales ang gusto natin this year? Yung sahod na dagdag, may sukat ba yon? Ibig sabihin, magkano ang gusto mo? Eh yung bagong cellphone, tagmag-kakano bang cellphone ang magpapaligaya sayo? yung tipong di ka pinagtitinginan ng mga ka-empleyado mo dahil panget ang mobile mo kundi dahil nang-iingit eheste.. naiingit pala sila.

Attainable. Kaya ba? Paanong kaya? Kaya ba ang target sales na $$$? O baka nag-iilusyon na naman tayo? Kaya mo ba namang bumili ng hi-tech na cell phone sa kakapiranggot na sahod mo? Kaya ba naman ng kompanya ang hinihingi mong dagdag na pasahod? Baka nag-de-demand ka sa kumpanya na hindi naman pala kaya. Kala mo lang kaya hindi naman pala kaya.. kaya.. kaya.. :D

Realistic at Risk. Makatotohanan ba ang Goals mo? Gusto mong madagdagan ang sahod mo ngayon araw na ito? Gusto natin may sales tayo bukas ng 100M pesoses. Gusto mo ng bagong nokia model na less than 1k. Baka naman hindi na makatotohanan ang mga nilalayon natin.

Syempre, kung may gusto kang makuha o makamit, hindi naman sa isang iglap nasa harapan mo na kaagad ang bagong samsung mobile phone. Kailangan mong pag-ipunan yan. I ri-risk mo muna ang sikmura mo sa pang araw-araw na diet ka kuno, yun pala, nagtitipid para makaipon kagad at makapunta ng greenhills. :D

Gusto nating makamit ang P50M sales itong taon na ito, dapat makipagsapalaran tayo. Kailangan nating mag focus sa ating mga ginagawa. Bitawan natin ang mga kompanyang nagbibigay sakit ulo sa atin na alam nating hindi makakatulong para makamit ang goals natin.

Gusto mong tumaas ang sweldo mo? Bakeeet? Kasi matagal-tagal ka na rin sa kumpanya. Gusto mo otomatiko ang pag-taas ng sahod mo. Ayaw mong makipagsapalaran na lapitan ang boss mo para hingin ang ninanais mong dagdag sahod. Baka kasi imbes na dagdagan, bigyan ka pa ng memo? :D

Time bound. Pag puti na ng uwak, lalapitan ko si bosing para magpadagdag ng sahod. Kailan naman puputi ang uwak, aber? Pag nagka-bird flu? :D Pag may bagong model na labas ang nokia, mabibili ko na rin ang nalumang model. Kailangan bigyan natin ng panahon. Hindi pwede yng, "basta" akong bahala at ikaw ang "kawawa".

Kailangan pagdating ng oktubre may sales na tayo ng P49M para pakuya-kuyakoy na lang tayo dahil P1M na lang ang tatargetin natin bago matapos ang taon.

omeng

May 2, 2006, 11:34 AM

Maituloy ko lang.. kahit puro unos ang dumadating..

Exciting. Dapat bigyan natin ng sigla ang mga sarili natin habang tinatapos o inaabot ang mga layunin natin sa buhay-buhay. Excited ka ba sa bagong modelo ng nokia? Malamang! Eh excited ka bang pumasok tuwing lunes pagkatapos ng isa o dalawang araw na walang pasok? O ikaw ang tipong may sakit tuwing unang araw ng pasukan sa trabaho? May sigla ka bang nararamdaman kasi madadagdagan na ang sahod mo? Aba, siyempre, pero may sigla ka kayang gumising ng maaga para hindi ma-leyt sa opisina? Excited ba ang lahat na kaya ang P50M sales bago matapos ang taon? Masigla ka naman kaya sa pag present ng ating kumpanya? Masigla ka bang mag-market ng ating mga produkto?

Baka naman, masigla ka lang kapag nandyan na ang biyaya? Masigla ka, dahil bukas may sahod na, pero pagkakuha ng sahod, matamlay ka kasi marami kang utang sa debt card. Masigla kang mag-shopping sa pamamagitan ng utang pero matamlay kang magbayad ng utang?

Papaano ba tayong magiging masigla sa pang-araw araw na gawain?

"Ngayon ang UNANG ARAW ng nalalabi pa sa aking buhay." - ganyan daw ang pag Build ng Excitement !!!

Tinanong ko ang mga nakikinig ( kuno :D ).

Ikaw? Oo ikaw nga. Natatandaan mo ba ang unang araw mo sa opisina? Hindi ba nagging excited ka nuon? Natatandaan mo ba ang unang araw na sumahod ka sa trabaho mo? Natatandaan mo ba yung unang araw pagkatapos mong tumanggap ng promosyon sa kumpanya niyo? Ang sigla-sigla mo diba?

So, bakit kapag UNANG ARAW natin sa isang bagay o sa mga bagay bagay ay kinasasabikan natin? Kung ganon nga, gawin natin laging ‘unang araw’ ang lahat simula sa pag-gising natin mapa-umaga man, mapang-tanghali o mapa-gabi.

Eh paano kung baligtarin natin...

"Ngayon ang HULING ARAW ng nalalabi pa sa aking buhay." - Creating Urgency daw yan.

Ibinigay ko ang “mic” sa mga nakikinig. Anong gagawin mo kung ito na ang HULING ARAW mo sa buhay buhay?

Si babae.. Bibisitahin ko ang mga mahal ko sa buhay.

Si lalake.. hihingi ako ng tawad ke lord. (hmmm.. mukhang manyakis kasi)

Si bading.. maghahanap ako ng bagong poging BF. (baka kapirasong bagong laman)

Si tanda.. ipapasyal ko ang aking pamilya abroad.

May napansin ba kayo? Puro kabutihan ang nasasa-isip natin kapag alam nating ito na ang HULING ARAW na nalalabi pa sa buhay-buhay natin.

Siguro naman, kapag alam mo ng ito ang huling araw mo sa buhay mo (o sa opisina) papasok ka ng maaga sa iyong trabaho.

Siguro naman, kapag alam mo ng ito ang huling araw mo sa buhay mo (o sa opisina) hindi ka na magnanakaw ng rim ng bond paper.

Siguro naman, kapag alam mo ng ito ang huling araw mo sa buhay mo (o sa opisina) pipilitin mong makakuha ng bagong account para naman may benta ka.

Siguro naman, kapag alam mo ng ito ang huling araw mo sa buhay mo (o sa opisina), hindi ka na makikipag-agrumento sa visor mo o manging sa management.

O baka ikaw yung tipong.. alam mo ng ito na ang huling araw mo sa buhay mo, wala ka ng paki-alam sa paligid mo, marahil dapat ka na ngang mawala sa mundong ito. :D

Responsiblity at Rewarding

Dapat isaalang-alang natin sa pang-araw araw na ginagawa natin ang pagiging responsable. Mayroon kang gustong makuha (goal), maging responsable ka. Hindi pwedeng iaasa mo sa iba ang GOAL mo. Kaya nga goal MO. Gets mo? :D

Kaya nga lagi kong sinasabi.. “If it is to be, it’s up to me.” – In taga-log “kung mayroong dapat mangyari, sa akin naka-depende.”

Ngunit paano ba tayo magiging responsible, bilang isang tao, isang mamamayan o isang empleyado?

(abot ulit ng handouts)

Total Responsibility Cycle

Acknowledge (Kilalanin) – Ano ba ang mga responsibilidad ko?

Own (Akuin) – At pag nalaman mo, kailangan mong akuin.

Solve (Lutasin) – At pag naako muna, kailangan mong lutasin.

Celebrate (Magdiwang) – At pag nalutas, ano ba naman ang mag-diwang ng kaunti?

Ang problema, nauuna ang pag-didiwang. Nandun yung tipong may problema sa opisina, tatalikuran ang responsibilidad, ayaw akuin at ayaw lutasin pero panay ang pagdidiwang kung saan-saan. Napaka-IRESPONSABLE mo kapag ganito ka.

Kung minsan naman, ang malimit mong sasabihin "pwede na yan" sa pag lutas mo sa problema.

Hindi pu-pwede ang "pwede na yan". Dapat “PWEDENG-PWEDE”.

Ang kaisipang ‘pwede nayan’ na minsan kung tawagin ay "victim answers" na nahihilera sa gaya ng mga ganito;

"Hindi pwede, busy ako e!" (No time / I'm busy)

"Basta ako, hindi sasabit", "Iwas pusoy" (Cover my ***)

"Huwag ka ng makialam!" (Protect my turf)

"Hindi! OK lang. No problem!" (Ignore and deny)

"Teka, teka, tignan muna natin!" (Wait and see)

"Walang pera, walang budget!" (No money, no budget)

"Hindi ko naman trabaho yan ah!" (It's not my job)

"Siya kasi eh." (Blaming)

Ang huling nabanggit ang siyang gasgas na gasgas sa mga UTAK-EMPLEYADO.

(hand outs uli)

The Story of Blaming

This is the story of four people:

Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody.

There was an important job to be done and Everybody was asked to do it. Everybody was sure Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that because it was Everybody's job. Everybody thought Anybody would do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn't do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when actually Nobody asked Anybody.

To make the short story long… :D … Kung alam mo na ikaw ay responsible sa opisina, alam mong responsible kadin bilang isang tao o isang mamamayan.

At ang pang huli.. Rewarding ba lahat?

Rewarding ba yung sisiraan mo ang kaempleyado mo o si-sipsip ka kay bosing para lang tumaas ang sahod mo? Mangungupit ka ng isa o dalawang rim ng bond paper para maibenta at makaipon o makadagdag sa ipon mo at agad makabilii ng bagong cell phone. Matapos ang project sa isang kumpanya ay hahayaan na nito dahil nakakolekta na tayo sa kanila ng bayad. Baka hindi na makabuluhan ang mga pinaggagawa natin?

O baka sa simula pa lang ng pag-buo nating ng GOAL, ay hindi na kaagad “MAKABULUHAN”.

… hanggang sa muli..

omeng

May 3, 2006, 09:17 AM

SilentMax, baka gusto mong mag share tungkol dun sa isang Ka-empleyado mo na may taglay na utak empleyado na malikot ang kamay? :D

SILENTMAX

May 3, 2006, 09:53 AM

pre wag naman... ikaw nalang mag kwento kaya? baguhin mo nalng yung mga names and scenarios..

youll blow my cover eh... i like to remain low profile. eh how am i going to do that when in the company i work for it seams like the whole entire workforce is reading pex. including the foreigner tasked to keep things together. :D

omeng

May 3, 2006, 10:30 AM

ganun ba? :D

hmmm.. baka pwede mong i-pm ang mas detalye. gawin natin na parang cinematic na low budget film nga lang. :lol:

omeng

May 5, 2006, 04:11 PM

Matapos ang maikling kwentuhan, pina-apply ko sa kanila ang mga walang-kawennnnttaaa-kwentang pinagsasabi ko. :D

Tumayo sila lahat at pinapila.

May nilagay akong diamante (puwet ng baso) sa isang lugar na dapat nilang puntahan.

"SMARTER"

Simple lang ang gagawin.. pupunta ka lang duon sa lugar kung nasaan and dyamante. Sabi ng nila, "the shortest distance between two point, is a straight line". So, huwag ng mag long cut-long cut pa.

May sukat ba? wala pang limang metro ang layo ng dyamante.

Kaya bang puntahan? Kayang-kaya.

Totoo ba ang dyamante na goal mo? Oo, tutuong **** ng baso.

Pero mag iingat ka, kasi may mga nakahambalang na cord ng mic. Pero kailangan mo paring makipag-sapalaran.

Hanggang kailan mo dapat makapunta duon sa dyamante? Matagal na ang limang minuto.

Masigla ka ba na magkaroong ng dyamante? **** ng baso rin yun.

Rewarding ba naman na makuha mo ang dyamante?Oo, as long na hindi ka nandadaya.

Ngayon, may mga kundisyones ba? Meron.

Hindi na maaaring ulitin ang mga ginawa na ng mga nauna. At pag inulit, pupunta sa likuran ng pila para umulit. Yun lang.

Inumpisahan ni Corporate consultant... naglakad hanggang sa makarating sa **** ng baso. :D (ang hirap no?)

Sinundan ni Presidente, Naglakad, pero malalaking hakbang. Pwede rin.

Sinundan ni Bise for operation , Naglulundag.

May tumalon.

May nag-skateboard.

May nagabayo.

May nag motor.

May pinasan.

May nag-piko.

May lumakad ng pabalik.

May gumapang.

May lumundag ulit at pumila ulit. (nakaapat na ulit)

At kung anot-anupa.

"WILL + WAYS = RESULTS"

Sabi nila dapat 50% ng WILL at 50% ng WAYS para makakuha ng 100% RESULTS.

Hindi naman. Maaring 25% lang ng WILL at 75% ng WAYS at makakakuha ka rin ng 100% RESULTS. O maaaring baligtad naman.

O di kaya, 99% ng WILL at 1% ng WAYS, 100% paring ng RESULTS ang makukuha mo.

Maraming paraan para makapunta sa dyamante. Hanggang saan ang pagnanais natin na makakapunta sa dyamante?

Sa maikling salita, ang importante ay ang RESULTA. Resulta na gusto mong maabot. GOAL NA GUSTO MONG MAKUHA.

"Never confuse effort with results."

- THE END -

shun_sakurai

May 5, 2006, 09:49 PM

I'm glad this thread is on this forum. Kakasimula ko lang sa trabaho at marami akong natututunan tungkol sa paghawak ng pera.

Nung nag-aaral pa ako may pagkagastador ako, pero sa unang dalawang linggo kong trabaho natututo akong magtipid. Nakakagulat din malamang kaya ko palang makatipid nang ganitong kalaki sa isang linggo.

Susubaybayan ko ang thread na ito para mas may matutunan ako sa mga gaya ninyong kapwa-empleyado. Maraming salamat! *okay*

omeng

May 6, 2006, 07:46 PM

^ Pleasure is ours, i guess. :D

Utak Empleyado = Mainitin ang Ulo (sa taas ha?) :lol:

Nuong nasa Internasyonal na paliparan pa ako nag-tatrabaho ang amo ko ay isang German Cut. :D

Nuong sya ang pumalit sa boss naming pilipino, ay hindi naging malapit ang loob namin sa kanya. Mahangin din kasi naman.

Nung minsan, tinuturuan ko ang aking "trainee" para "weight and balance" ng isang higanteng eroplano (Boeing 747-400), ay bigla na lang kaming nilapitan at itinuro ni German cut ang papel (trim sheet) na hawak hawak namin at sabay sabing, it's "kaputs".

Sa inis ko, wala pang 15 minutes, nag-tender ako ng resignation effective after 15 days. (hehe baka kasi makasuhan ako, at pagbayarin ng mga training pag "immediately".)

Nakarating kagad sa dati kong Pilipinong boss at tinanong ako anong nangyari.. ang sabi ko, binastos ako sa harapan ng trainee ko. Tapos nakarating sa country manager (german cut din) at ini-imbitahan ako sa opisina niya para magka-usap pero tumanggi na rin ako at baka yung kapwa niya german cut pa ang mapag-initan.

At ayun, after 15 days, selebrasyon! Kasi nga nasa kabilang kumpanya na ako na halos doble ang sahod... wahhhhhh :lol:

Pero sana, nag-timpi ako ng panahon nayun. Nagpakumbaba at hindi naging mainitin ang ulo (sa taas uli). :D

cashwriters

May 9, 2006, 07:09 AM

If current EMPLOYEES want to be ENTREPRENEURS with little RISK and NO MONEY, email me at cashwriters AT yahoo DOT com with subject line "MY OWN OUTSOURCING BUSINESS" and I'll send you details.

I will pay people that can recruit Pinoy writers to write on topics I will send.

decaf

May 9, 2006, 11:36 AM

mas mahirap kung ikaw na nga ang may-ari ng kumpanya pero ang turing pa rin sa yo e parang empleyado.

yan ang kung minsang nangyayari kapag outsourcing ang line of business mo.

main client namin isang foreigner. kami gumagawa ng software, firmware at hardware para sa kumpanya nya. dahil sa confidentiality nung ilang information, tulad ng contract price at actual deadlines, di ko pwedeng i-delegate yung correspondence sa iba. so ako yung nasasabon kapag di gumana yung programs, kailangan ko pa i-edit yung mga reports na binibigay sa kanila, di pwedeng mag-absent dahil baka biglang may ipabago sa mga programs o may makitang bugs. di ko naman pwedeng bigyan sila ng direct access sa mga employees ko kasi baka may ipagawa na wala sa pinag-usapan.

feeling ko tuloy parang supervisor lang ako ng mga employees ko at ang amo talaga e yung client.

omeng

May 10, 2006, 02:41 PM

Unconsciously incompetent.

Ganito na ang karamihan ang mga empleyado, lalo na sa mga taga-gobyerno. Hindi nila alam na eengot engot na sila. Hindi nila alam na obob na sila. Hindi nila alam na ogag na sila. Masakit ang pananalitang ito, ngunit ano sa kanila, eh hindi naman nila alam na napaka incompetent nila sa kanilang mga ginagawa.

Bakit kaya ganuon? Alam mong mahina ka o bobo ka sa isang bagay pero ang tamad tamad mong mag-aral para matutunan ang bagay na iyon. Ganuon ba talaga ang mga bobo, mga tamad sila? O ang mga tamad, nagiging mas bobo?

Ikaw naman, baka lang 'di nila talaga alam na bobo sila at tamad.

Utak empleyado nga naman, bow. :D

cashwriters

May 10, 2006, 03:19 PM

You have to start from somewhere. Do what a lot of outsource entrepreneurs do and save some of those dollars/euros to building your OWN sites and PROJECTS (that don't compete with your clients' businesses, of course). Build, optimize, run. Keep doing that until you have a network and then get out of the outsource biz and BE the client.

My buddy who started his own collection biz here in Pinas using VOIP did this. He worked for a collections agency in San Diego for over 15 years, moved to PInas, did outsourced collections for a while, now he is a "wholesale" account handler and is doing quite well. All his efforts go to HIS account instead of someone else.

Outsourcing is just the beginning. The end goal should be sustainability and higher profit margins.

mas mahirap kung ikaw na nga ang may-ari ng kumpanya pero ang turing pa rin sa yo e parang empleyado.

yan ang kung minsang nangyayari kapag outsourcing ang line of business mo.

main client namin isang foreigner. kami gumagawa ng software, firmware at hardware para sa kumpanya nya. dahil sa confidentiality nung ilang information, tulad ng contract price at actual deadlines, di ko pwedeng i-delegate yung correspondence sa iba. so ako yung nasasabon kapag di gumana yung programs, kailangan ko pa i-edit yung mga reports na binibigay sa kanila, di pwedeng mag-absent dahil baka biglang may ipabago sa mga programs o may makitang bugs. di ko naman pwedeng bigyan sila ng direct access sa mga employees ko kasi baka may ipagawa na wala sa pinag-usapan.

feeling ko tuloy parang supervisor lang ako ng mga employees ko at ang amo talaga e yung client.

tennisace

May 12, 2006, 12:34 AM

omeng

May 12, 2006, 09:10 AM

I totally agree.. as great sam walton said...

“There is only one boss-the customer. And he can fire everybody in the company from the chairman on down by spending his money somewhere else.”

decaf

May 12, 2006, 10:54 AM

can't say i hate outsourcing. the business has really been very good to me. but given a choice between offering a product or a service. i'd rather offer the former. apart from higher margins, an advantage of product development over outsourcing is supervision from your clients is a lot less. it offers more freedom from the 'buhay empleyado' lifestyle. but if i get stuck in this outsourcing business, i'll bear with it and just complain my way to the bank. :)

SILENTMAX

May 12, 2006, 12:13 PM

i whine all my way to the bank too.....

sometimes it gets intense i keep on complaining on why my business ventures are so arrggggg if it doesnt bring money in the bank eh matagal ko nang inayawan to.....

and i havent even started about my complaints on gold.....

omeng

May 15, 2006, 06:43 PM

at sino naman ang mag-co-complain sa gold? :lol:

omeng

May 18, 2006, 01:18 PM

Utak empleyado = Mr. Defeat

Bakit ganuon? Lagi na lang may mga talunang dahilan ang mga empleyadong hindi makapag-produce ng magandang resulta.

Siguro sa umpisa palang kapag may gagawin, ang sasabihin;

"Hindi natin kaya yan."

"Masyadong malaking project yan, baka mabulunan tayo."

"Susubukan ko, pero baka walang mangyari din."

At pagkatapos pumalpak;

"Sabi ko na nga ba, hindi natin kaya."

"Ayaw niyong maniwala sa akin, maliit lang tayo."

"Hindi ako nag e-expect na may mangyayari talaga."

Kaya, mga kapwa ko empleyado, paglalayuan nyo ang mga ganitong tao, kayo din, malakas makahawa ang mga yan. :D

kumakaway

May 23, 2006, 07:53 PM

buhay empleyado nga naman.. daming mga matututunan dito ha

omeng

May 26, 2006, 06:40 PM

Salamat, kumakaway.

Nakakalungkot isipin na makalipas lang ang maikling panahon, matapos makapakinig ng mga bagay-bagay na ikabubuti ng bawat isa, eto ngayon, balik sa dating gawi. Utak empleyado nga naman. Binigyan mo na ng kamay gusto pati braso kunin.

omeng

May 27, 2006, 02:07 PM

Patalastas muna.

Just recieved on my mail...

"Funny!!! This was a resume sent to a call center. Hehehehe!

I. Personal Background

1. Name: Marjorie Barboza Lopez
- Everybody calls me Gigi though. I suits me better than Marjorie or Marj. I think a Gigi is someone who is fun, outgoing, smart, everybody's pal.Someone
who can think fast on her feet and lands on them too! Most of all, a Gigi is someone who gets hired to do the job.

2. Birthday: February 25,1975
- Undoubtedly, a very memorable day for my mother Maria. Most probably not so memorable for my father since he abandoned us shortly afer (but that's
another story)
- Which means that my zodiac sign is Pisces and that I was born in the year of the Rabbit

3. Sibling: Marcial Laurence Barboza Lopez
- I call him Mat though, which is short for Matutina. Apparently, his friends found his squeaky voice was just like Matutina's of Marsha and John. He does not sound like Matutina now but the name stuck.
- We used to fight a lot when we were kids but we get along like a house on fire now. He's married with two kids.

II. Educatonal Background

1. Primary Level: Nalsian Elementary school
- Incidentally, the same school where my mom taught for 30 years. She was even my sixth-grade teacher. The fact that I graduated valedictorian was due to my superiior intellect and not because she was my adviser. Honest.

2. Secondary Level: PSU Laboratory High School
- Located in the town of Bayambang, it is about 4 kilometers away from our home. There were only 20 boys and 20 girls in a class and each year was composed of one section so we were pretty small compared to the national high school, which also meant that everybody knew everybody. Funny thing was, my brother and I acted like we did not even know each other. I told you we did not get along pretty well in high school
- Most memorable experience was when all 20 girls in our class went to a classmate's house to watch a pornographic movie while her parents were away.

3. Tertiary Level: U.P. Diliman and AMA Computer College-Dagupan

3.1. Big City
- I went to U.P. Diliman where I took up B.S. Statistics. To this day, I cannot explain what made me chose Statistics as my major. Mathematics and I mix as well as oil and water. Eventually, I discovered SM malls and got interested in attending them more than my classes.
Ending: an unfinished education and a whole lot of regrets.(Kids if you are reading, don't do this at home)

3.2. Small City
- After my disastrous stint in the big city, I hanged out at home for 2 years --- until mom put her foot down: finish your education or else! I wanted to go back to Manila but mom promptly vetoed the idea due to my past "record" in the big city. I went to Dagupan, where the biggest mall (at that time) could be easily fitted inside Megamall Building A (and still have enough room to play
football) and the movies were like weeks too late or never get shown at all. I excelled in my studies mainly because competition was scarce ( and I mean SCARCE), there were not that much distractions and my mother watched me like a hawk. I finally got my degree in Computer Science.

III. The Aftermath
- I got an invitation to apply for a teaching job at AMA shortly after. I applied and got it. It only took me one trimester to know that teaching is not for me. My schedule was a mess. I had a class at 7 in the morning and the next one would be at 5 in the afternoon. I preferred continuous action. Of course, my patience and listening ability really improved, what with students who could not grasp elementary concepts and those who needed to be heard more than to be lectured. I quit and became a professional couch potato. My mother was not exactly ecstatic about my decisions but she was not exactly unhappy either because she gained a live-in housekeeper/cook/nanny/laundrywoman in me. Heck, I even did the windows. I was like a well-trained housewife minus the philandering husband and kids.

IV. The Present
- I can not believe it! I've got acne all over my face. Why now when all throughout my teenage years, not one zit popped out? I have tried every over-the-counter medications but nothing seems to help. I have come to the conclusion that this would require professional treatment. VIcky Belo or Pie Calayan comes to mind. Unfortunately, this would mean money which I don't have right now. My solution? Come again to the big city and get a job. Besides, I've come to realize that I am not fully utilizing my full potential by just staying at home and playing housekeeper. I mean I am smart and intelligent and funny and talented and honest and hardworking and trustwothy and (ok ok you get the point) I need to go out on dates,(paging eligible men who prefer personality and humor to aesthetics) to rent my own place and be independent and to go to the malls and actually buy something. In other words, I need to experience life! But first things first, I need a job to jumpstart my plans.

V. The Future
- Driving the latest RAV 4 (my dream car), my mom and I are on our way home after shopping and dining-out. My acne is gone and my mom looks younger than her years. Tomorrow, I have a date with the man of my dreams. My career is flourishing and luck is on my side - I have just won the Lotto jackpot!!!

VI. The Verdict
- I know that this is not the usual resume you receive and hopefully read. Fact is, I have tried writing a typical resume but I always find the finished product bland and uninteresting and it does not convey the real me. I hope you give this resume a fair chance.

Mobile Number: 0921-8133062
Home Number : 422-7180
Provincial Address: 84 Nalsian Norte BAyambang,
Pangasinan
City Address: 176-A J.P. Rizal St.Proj. 4,Quezon City
Gettysburg's Address: Four score and seven years ago......
My crush's address: I'm still investigating

I certify that all the things that I wrote down are true. I should know, it's my life!

Sincerely Yours:

Gigi

So, what do you talent sourcing people think?

bananalube

May 27, 2006, 06:44 PM

But this contains personal confidential information.

omeng

May 29, 2006, 07:12 AM

Ganun ba? It was all over in the e-mails, i guess. So, it's no more confidential. Anyway, I don't buy that stuff. It was just a joke, I think.

omeng

Aug 9, 2006, 07:25 PM

Kumusta na ang buhay empleyado? Tulad pa rin ba ng dati? Taglay pa rin ba natin ang pagkakaroon ng "utak empleyado"?

"Utak empleyado, sandamakmak sa gobyerno."

Chris_cute

Apr 4, 2009, 02:41 PM

Sa ngayon empleyado ako pero hindi ako "utak empleyado" *okay*

omeng

Jul 7, 2009, 12:55 PM

^ mabuti naman.

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utak empleyado = pangsariling kapakanan lang ang naiisip

bakit nga ba ganuon? o sadyang dapat ganyan talaga?

naisip ko lang, kailangan ba talaga ang pag-aawol? dahil ba sa suklam ka sa iyong pinapasukang kumpanya, ay pag-hihigantihan mo? eh kasi, ang barat-baratng amo ko. eh kasi, di ko na matiis si bosing, pati mga personal na aktibidades sa akin pinagagawa. eh kasi, matagal na akong nagtitiis sa mga kasamahan ko na laging namumulitika. bahala na na sila kung magka letse-letse sila pag alis ko, lintik lang ang walang ganti.

ang iba naman, matapos ang mahabang pag eensayo sa kanila bago mag trabaho ng opisyal, makalipas lang ang ilang buwan, ninanais na nilang mag awol bagamat may kasulatan na dapat tupdin bago aalis sa kumpanya. at kalaunan, mahihiya tayo dahil wala tayong pagmumukhang iharap sa kanila dahil sa ating mga maling pinag-gagawa.

mayroon ding nangangatwiran pa na malaki kasi ang offer ng kabila at kailangan na nila ako duon sa lalong madaling panahon kaya pasensyahan na lang. aba, mahirap ng palampasin ito, oportunidad na ito. Tsaka, bakit ako makokonsensya eh, pinagtrabahuhan ko naman ang mga pinagpasahod nila sa akin.

bumabalik ba sa isipan natin na minsan tayo ang nangailangan sa mga kumpanyang ito? hanap tayo ng hanap ng mapapasukan at sa wakas may nagtiwala sa ating mga kakayahan. sa wakas may trabaho na tayo. may pambayad na ng bahay-upa, kuryente, tubig at pang lakwatsa.

pero ngayon, nagiisip tayo ng awol. eh ano naman, hindi naman ako kawalan sa kanila. baligtarin kaya natin ang sitwasyon, ikaw ang may ari ng kumpanya at ikaw ang pinag-awol-an. ano ang gagawin mo? dededmahin mo ba? at tapos pamamarisan ka ng iba kasi okey lang naman pala. minsan ikunsedera natin ang mga paa natin na ilagay sa kanilang mga sapatos.

omeng

Jul 7, 2009, 01:16 PM

nang minsan akong nag trabaho sa isang malaking kumpanya, dumating sa punto na ako'y nababato na. napag-isip isip ko na hindi pala ito ang gusto kong mundo. dalawang buwan na laman at akoy kwalipikadong mag ensayo sa kabilang ibayo para pag-igihin ang aking nalalaman sa larangan ng aking propesyon. ito'y kailangan. lahat ay dumadaan sa ganitong sitwasyon sa mga kwalipikadong empleyado.

ang sarap isipin na ako'y ipapadala sa ibang bansa na halos wala akong gagastusin, ngunit napag-isip-isip ko na may kalakip itong kontrata. dalawang taon na paninilbihan kapalit ng pageensayo. pinag isipan kong maigi ang mga bagay na ito at dumating ako sa puntong: sige, mag ensayo ako at tapos mag awol pagkatapos ng ilang buwan na paninilbihan. ngunit napag-isp-isp ko, ano naman ang ihaharap kong pagmumukha sa aking mga bosing? kako, maliit ang ang mundo.

nagdesisyon na huwag na lang mag ensayo at sabihin ang katotohanan. kinausap ko ng masinsinan ang bisor ko at humingi ng payo. ibinigay nya sa akin ang pag dedesisyon. makalipas ang isang linggo, kinausap ko na rin ang aming presidente. naging mahusay ang aming pag uusap at binigyan pa ako ng seguridad na sa sandaling ako'y magbabalik, bukas ang kanilang upisina at kung mayroon akong papasukang kahalintulad ng industriya nila, ako'y i-iendorso pa nila.

makalipas ang maraming araw, buwan at taon, paminsan minsan ay nadadalaw ako sa opisina, kamustahan at minsay nagsasalo-salo sa meryenda. minsan namay nagkikitang bigla sa di inaasahang lugar gaya ng BIR at CR sa mall. tama nga na maliit ang mundo.

nakakatuwang isipin na naging maganda ang mga paghihiwalayan. walang samaan ng loob, walang kalakip na kasong legal at iba pa.

ayaw ba nating ng ganito o mahilig tayo sa gulo?