How to get into IT-industry?

[charlie_alpha]

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[charlie_alpha]

I'm sure there are a lot of people out there who graduated with a degree in IT or Comp Engineering/Science who feel like they're going down a road they really don't want to. Oftentimes, it seems like there just isn't much of a choice for those of us who aren't brilliant enough to breeze through 4 and a half hours of screening exams and still have time for a cigarette. :bop:

My guess is, the only way to avoid joining the ranks of those down and out executives who sit around all day at a cafe in Greenbelt hatching scheme after get-rich-quick scheme is to learn new skills, obtain certification..... to get an edge, so to speak. By the way, it's not that I look down on those poor guys. It's just an example of what I don't want to become. So getting back to it, the problem now seems to be a matter of finding the right schools. I've been told some of the good ones are:


Phoenix one
Meralco Foundation
Informatics


Any suggestions, comments, etc.? Will taking these courses help one get into IT, let alone get you a job as a software engr? Any help will be greatly appreciated :)

[froshie1]

I'm assuming you're an IT grad.. I'm not sure, if there's a need for you to enroll on those schools you mentioned. Anway, the sure way you can land an IT job is thru experience because experience certifies that a candidate can do the job well.

How can you get experience?
1.) Apply at the big companies who pays well. // competition here is really big.

2.) Apply at small companies who won't pay you well but you're the one who's going to do it all. // after 2-3 years, kasing tindi mo na malamanag iyong mga magagaling kung ikaw ay matiyaga.

[charlie_alpha]

I'm assuming you're an IT grad.. I'm not sure, if there's a need for you to enroll on those schools you mentioned. Anway, the sure way you can land an IT job is thru experience because experience certifies that a candidate can do the job well.

How can you get experience?
1.) Apply at the big companies who pays well. // competition here is really big.

2.) Apply at small companies who won't pay you well but you're the one who's going to do it all. // after 2-3 years, kasing tindi mo na malamanag iyong mga magagaling kung ikaw ay matiyaga.

froshie1
Uh, actually I'm a comp sci grad. Thanks for the advice :) I'll try to ask around for openings in small companies as well.

[charlie_alpha]

bump. any other advice?

[gasoline]

Like he said, start small, develop you skills and never stop learning. Kahit di ka mag enroll sa schools, you can read around to be updated sa industry. Some companies give certifications din.

[charlie_alpha]

gasoline,
thanks its good to know some companies will help you get certified. i almost got accepted as a programmer for a small company this week. i did well on the programming exam and EDP interview. they were impressed with my coding, to say the least. in an attempt to even the odds, i asked for only slightly above minimum wage. but a few days later the HR told me they picked someone else instead (apparently bec. he had experience and probably more expertise). that was one of the very few times i actually had a fighting chance. i may not see an opportunity like that again for a very long time.

i've also been applying at spi and the like, but i really don't have the endurance to withstand more than 2 hrs of utter crap that is totally unrelated to programming. i know i write good code-- all my grades in programming subjects are excellent. so i usually do well on programming tests, but not when its the last in a battery of tests which are administered as mercilessly as possible. i find the personality tests and some sections of abstract reasoning to be very discriminatory in nature. So much for "equal employment opportunity"..... what a load of crap!

it's very tempting to hack for the right answers. it would make things a whole lot easier, but i haven't gotten to that point yet.....

if someone can help me understand a section of abstract reasoning, i'd be very grateful. it's like this: you're given 3 overlapping figures such as a triangle, a circle, and a diamond with a dot inside. or sometimes it could be a square with a horizontal line going through it, a circle on the line, and a dot inside the square. the instructions tell you to find the correct variation or something like that. maybe im just mentally retarded, but it just makes no sense to me at all.

[froshie1]

pre apply ka lang ng apply.. most of the time (especially pag alam mong malupit ka na) hindi lang sa talino ang labanan sa pagapply. tinitignan din ng company kung magfifit iyong candidate sa culture ng company.

[Assassin_Mage]

about personality tests

Equal oppurtunity does not come into it. Its just that companies want to know if you really are a fit into their culture. There are lots of times when even if a person is good, he simply does not fit into the culture and it can be more of a problem getting him rather than just passing him over.

[charlie_alpha]

froshie1 & Assassin_Mage tnx, i see your point. i guess i'll just have to keep on trying.

[cuteepieph]

hi, charlie_alpha.
i think RADIX hires trainees, they train fresh IT grads and experienced non-IT grads and prepare them for IT careers, then outsource them to big IT companies.. you should try sending ur resume to them. Compensation is good too.

[TheJumpMan]

Why not try to apply in Governmet agencies? They have IT Departments that usually do not have IT-related exams (e.g. Programming). The good here is that you will most likely be sent to trainings once you get hired. Also, it is a good stepping stone to earn experience and a good arena to prove yourself.