PLDT myDSL

[Pao|o]

Originally posted by sachiel
Oh, by the way, the upload speed of pldt's DSL is way fast. People can download up to 50KB/s from my computer in Kazaa. That's why i don't share files anymore.:D

I do 140KB/s ;)

[sachiel]

Originally posted by Pao|o


WHen did you get this email? I haven't seen it myself.

That's for Satellite.

What's Meridian?


PLDT sent it on Dec. 12. In case you haven't, here's what it says:

Dear Valued Subscribers,

Good day!

Thank you for being a loyal Infocom subscriber. Your loyalty has paved the way for Infocom to be the leading Internet service provider in the country.

We are continuously upgrading our systems to make your Internet experience more interesting and enjoyable. We have upgraded our webmail, anti-virus protection and e-mail storage services for your convenience. With the INFOCOM webmail, you can access your Infocom e-mail from any internet-connected computer from any part of the world – sending and receiving e-mails is now made simpler and more accessible. The anti-virus protection, on the other hand, screens or filters all your incoming and outgoing mails for possible viruses.

Because of these improvements to deliver world-class service to you, we are constrained to charge P75.00 (VAT-inclusive) as monthly services fees per supplementary account that you have availed of or will avail of. This shall take effect on January 2002. Please note that the said fee is still lower as compared to other ISPs’ charges.

For any inquiries that you may have, you may reach our Customer Care at 859-8000 or simply reply to this e-mail.

Thank you for your understanding and continued patronage.

Sincerely,

INFOCOM Technologies, Inc.

Unlimited ba yun satellite?

The full name is Meridian Telekoms. Here's their website:
http://www.meridiantelekoms.com
I think they only service corporations.

[koppee1]

well, i sent them an email since it's too late to call...hehe i tried. :P
from the looks of their site it's a satellite based isp...hmmm i don't understand that "burst" speed thing though...how long do those bursts last? if they last for only a couple seconds then what's the good in that?

[AmplexusAngelus]

>>Dream Satellite's 400kbps package.

Any info on that?!?

[Pao|o]

Search for "Satellite TV" for the info you seek. :)

[koppee1]

What are the "broadband" ISP's available here in Metro Manila. Unfortunately...PLDT DSL and NOW cable are NOT available in my area. Do i have any other alternatives. And please..do not say destiny...i'm already in it. It's the worst isp i've ever been in.

FOR THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT TO READ LONG MESSAGES YOU CAN SKIP THE REST OF MY MESSAGE HEHE the rest is just REASONS why you shouldn't get destiny.

I'm using destiny cable's internet. Let me just say if there is some poor sap out there who wants to jump to broadband and is thinking of destiny cable...to stop and look elsewhere.

I've seen the up and downs of destiny. I thought destiny was slow before...but they improved...and for awhile i was even satisfied. But now...damn...it's so bad i haven't been able to download anything for more than a week now. Why? Because I don't download from those "cached" sites like www.download.com or tucows (akamai? sites)....don't be fooled when they say i got 50K/sec d/ls from tucows...cached! that's why. I usually download from foreign irc fserves or foreign ftps servers....my d/ls for more than a week have been basically....0.0k/sec. All ftp and mirc d/ls get disc every 5 minutes. The usual number i see are in bytes! 200 bytes. 400 bytes. sometimes, it jumps to 2.5K..sometimes even 4K...but in never stays there...u can bet your life it'll hit 0.0 in a matter of seconds...it's like a roller coaster...but with destiny...sometimes when u hit bottom, you never go back up...it disconnects.

Lots of people are complaining and yet the NOC and tech support of destiny insist there is nothing wrong. That everything is normal. I was even told that my less than 1K/sec d/s were normal. Damnit. I need another isp. and fast. can anyone help?

[sachiel]

I would suggest that you go back to dial-up for a while if you really want to download from those sites because i think it's a waste of subscription fee if you're not getting what you want.

You may want to ask Globe Telecoms although i'm not sure if they already service broadband to residence.

[koppee1]

well, i have another problem which is why i can't go back to dial up...i actually don't have a modem :p
how fast are dial ups now a days?

[longshot_21]

just a question:

dsl personal's monthly is still 2000? kse the lineman who came and tested our line told me that they were reducing it? was it true?

[Pao|o]

I hope what you're saying's true about price reduction. :D

Fastest dialu's around 5KB/s a second.

[sachiel]

Maybe you can borrow from your friends.:)

Oh, for DSL subs, does anyone know why the all three counter strike servers are down?

[koppee1]

If you live in the Mandaluyong area...near Pure Gold Shaw Blvd. Or around the area...A. Mabini Street, Lee Street, Pilar Street etc. If you live in this area...please give PLDT a call through 171. Tell them you want PLDT DSL. Our area is using a fibre cable system and since PLDT dsl needs copper...we can't avail of DSL. No matter how much i bug PLDT they insist on doing nothing until they get more dsl applications. So please everyone, call 171, go to the dsl section, and after the recorded message finishes, press 0 to talk to an operator and tell em u want dsl.
I've been waiting for so long to get our of my stupid worthless piece of crap isp (destiny cable) but no other isp is available in my area.

To the others who don't live in this area...maybe u have friends/relatives who do. Could u get them to call pldt too? even if they have no intention to get dsl...hehe.

Sigh.

I can't even get decent internet in this country.

[Pepe]

You mean they are not using copper from their box to your house? Wow! That should be great.

[Krakista]

Originally posted by Pepe
You mean they are not using copper from their box to your house? Wow! That should be great. That's much, much, much better than DSL. :glee:

[neonique]

why don't you get cable internet? its a bit more stable than DSL, though the speed is not up to par...

[mickeyREN]

wait ano? masmaganda ang Cable Internet kesa sa DSL? baket? Nagaaply na ako ng DSL kasi isip ko masmaganda DSL kesa Cable eh, and besides sabi ni koppee1 bulok daw,

[koppee1]

actually...hindi bulok ang cable internet.
BULOK ANG DESTINY CABLE INTERNET.

NOW cable and PLDT DSL is HEAVEN compared to destiny cable internet.

The reason i'm going for PLDT DSL is because I have a friend already in DSL and he tells me how fast he d/ls and such. We tried d/l the same file at the same time and he gets 15K/sec while i was getting something like 800 bytes per sec. Sometimes destiny cable reaches 6K/sec or something...but it never stays there...it is like a roller coaster...0.0 to EVEN 20K (rare)....but it will go back to 0.0 and sometimes stays there and disconnects.

So no...cable is not better than dsl...but dsl is not better that cable either. It all depends on the isp. If i'm not mistaken...pldt dsl and now cable share the same network.

So cmon guys...call up pldt now!

[GOwin]

Originally posted by Krakista
That's much, much, much better than DSL. :glee:

fiber is better than copper, but DSL is a copper-only(?) technology diba?

[Krakista]

Originally posted by GOwin
fiber is better than copper, but DSL is a copper-only(?) technology diba? YES, fiber is used for E1, T1, T3, etc. Better than DSL yon diba? In addition, DSL is a last mile technology unlike T1 and company. Mukhang malayo na ang A.Mabini/Pilar/Shaw sa PLDT C.O. sa kanto ng Ortigas at Santolan.

[cyberredz]

Originally posted by GOwin


fiber is better than copper, but DSL is a copper-only(?) technology diba?

DSL uses copper and copper only.

[zimdude]

Krakista is right, we guys with 723/724 numbers can't use DSL coz we're too far. If only we can get stretched out to the Dansalan exchange.



Oh, and while fiber is great, PLDT (or anyone) won't sell it to you!

[koppee1]

that's why i'm trying to get people in my area to call pldt...i think they mentioned that they could install some sort of who knows what to allow my area to use dsl...but it would be expensive that's why they are waiting for a number of subscribers...sigh. My current download speeds in:
mirc- 0.0k/sec...
ftp 0.0k/sec
whoops...it went up...mirc d/l is now at 1.6K/sec
ftp is now at 160 bytes per sec.

that's destiny cable internet for u.

[zimdude]

Probably a DSLAM or DSL switch.
Well, I already tried calling before, and I won't call anymore since I work for an ISP and can do all the downloading I need from the office...

[mickeyREN]

ang ayaw ko lang sa DSL, mahal eh! pag mag-cable ka kasama na ang TV sa DSL kahit yung phone bills hindi kasama eh lugi hehe! :)

so, teka, help me ah, since Destiny and DSL lang choice ko, DSL na ako kasi Destiny bulok, pero yung NOW? musta naman un actually wala pa yun sa area ko eh, kahit yung DSL wala din sa area ko ewan ko pero kasi may kakilala kaming DSL installer gagawan daw niya kame ng paraan hehe , :)

[rinoa]

okay peeps, tanong lang ako.

ano-ano ang mga DSL/Cable companies dito sa pinas? at halos tig-mamagkano? gusto kong kumuha kaya lang knto lang alam ko meron, pero di ko alam kung magkakano.

[KingTriton]

Ako naka Destiny pero di naman siya bulok na bulok ah.... kanina naka download ako ng 1.5mb na file in less than 1 Minute... baka nasa computer mo na rin iyan o kaya sa area, baka madami ang cable subscribers sa area mo.

[koppee1]

destiny uses akamai. It's basically an internet caching service. Sites such as www.download.com , tucows, cnn.com, etc. are cached on akami servers. All these sites will be fast...downloads will be fast.

However, most other foreign sites will be damn bloody slow. My usual ftp transfers from foreign ftps are below 1K...although there has been improvements lately...my d/ls have gone up to 4K/sec...although it disconnects every 5 minutes or so.

Another info for those who think destiny is fast. Chances are you got the "good" ipl.

Destiny uses about 2 or 3 ipls...one of these ipls are good...the other one...well, it's a piece of ****. Unfortunately, that's the one i'm in. I've tried forcing destiny to switch me to the other ipl but they claims it can't be done. Anyone i know in destiny that is in the same ipl as mine complains about their speed.

How bad is it?
I and another destiny user (different ipl) connected to an efnet channel, and downloaded the same file from the same person at the same time. My d/l started at 2K/sec...and in a matter of seconds was at 0.0k/sec. His started at 6K/sec...and by the time my d/l was at 0.0k/sec, his was at 11k/sec.

As for thinking you aren't near mandaluyong so you'll get destiny...think again...it's true that people in my area are in the same ipl...but i've met some destiny users online who are in the same ipl as mine but live in sampaloc, and even quezon city. So joining destiny is basically a gamble. Will you get the good ipl..or the bad one.

Finally, those in destiny who are so happy with their fast connections...I'd start looking for an alternative. About a month or two ago, I ALSO had that fast service. I used to d/l 4k/sec to 20k/sec from foreign ftp and mirc fserves. Not anymore. One day...it just stopped being cable and became a useless worse than dial up bad excuse for a cable internet.

[PhaT_KaT]

i'm doing fine with my destiny cable internet. verrryyy fast.... sometimes, i can download files with s speed of 50 k/sec and above. and as high as 30 k/sec in i-mesh. well, i must admit that.. before, i cursed my cable connection because it was terribly sloooooowwwww. i even considered running back to my old dial-up server (pacific). but after a month or so, destiny (miraculously) improved a lot. i don't know why or how... but i'm happy they did. now i'm enjoying the fast connection. :D

[Codeboy2]

[i]Originally posted by zimdude Oh, and while fiber is great, PLDT (or anyone) won't sell it to you! Nor will you be able to afford it :). No such thing as last mile fiber for now...

[zimdude]

You can get last mile fiber, but not for your house.
If you order a lot of leased lines from a telco, they can deliver it over fiber.

[ginoledesma]

Hoo boy, if only there's a cheap/affordable way to tap into their fiber connections and get an Internet connection through that. :D

[bAbOi_AdMU]

I HATE PLDT and other Cable intenet companies!!!! Wala silang services here sa Marikina!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[koppee1]

i can d/l 100k/sec on akamai sites. I can also get good speeds on certain web based sites. However, on ftp and mirc transfers...that's where they suffer. My needs for a fast internet are solely for file transfers. Why would i need a cable internet if i was just going to surf? I have access to t1 and t3 warez dump sites in different areas of the world. And my speeds to these sites are pathetic. I get less than 1K/sec on average. On some rare occasions, it may go up to as high as 12K/sec but it will never last more than a couple minutes at most.
Like I said, if you are happy with destiny, it's because you have the good ipl. Check your ip address. Chances are you are in ipblock 235 and above. Although i've met some people who are in block 240something and they complain of the same lousy speeds as mine. Chances are if your ipblock is in the range of 228-232, then you're **** out of luck...just like me. One of the people complaining regularly on the destiny message boards is actually leaving destiny next month. Lucky guy. He's moving to PLDT dsl or Globe dsl. I wish I could. Problem is, no other broadband provider wants to activate my area. :(

[zimdude]

I HATE PLDT and other Cable intenet companies!!!! Wala silang services here sa Marikina!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Like it or not, it's a business... so if they have enough business there, then they could invest in the necessary gear.

[jpenny2k]

i suggest not subscribing to destiny!
it'll be ur worst nightmare (as of now!)

[jaywolf27]

I'm planning to switch from dial up to PLDT MyDSL. My main problem is that when ever I'm out of the house and i need to to use the net, is it possible to connect to my own PC from another PC via dial up ( Dial Up Server ) and to be able to surf the net ??? if so how and what programs do I need ?? thanks in advance

[netbum]

As far as I know... (my bro got it on... I was in Cebu), it's stated in the contract (w/c was printed on the application form) that you consent not to run any server of any kind using your residential DSL account.

I am also not sure if you can run another dial-up service with Windows 9x/Me/NT/2000. The DSL is already a dial-up service so I don't know if you can run another dial-up server while the DSL is already connected.

There may be ways to achieve a connection through a Linux box but that's WAY out of my scope.

But I think it's anyhow quite reasonable to get a DSL connection if you used to have a separate phone line solely for internet.

[DrZoidberg]

Yep, its technically possible... Windows 2000 can do it right out of the box but you have to get your hands really dirty in configuring RAS to do routing and NAT stuff. Something like a mini-ISP right? I've tested it and it should work on all Windows clients dialing into it. Beats using another ISP esp when you're on the road, plus the connection speed is fantastic since you're technically connected to a bigger pipe... e.g. a 256k connnection giving you pure 33.6k connection!

One thing though... that type of setup is a violation of the contract... as netbum said, plus all other types of services...

[jaywolf27]

well ill only use it once in a while pag kailangan ko talaga.... so do i need any types of programs ?? what kind ??

[cyberredz]

I should warn that if PLDT caughts you using the PLDT mydsl (personal) for any business use. your number will be blacklisted.

[Ada]

Does anyone have the contact numbers for PLDT MyDSL? :)

[Pat45]

Jaywolf, I'm doing exactly what you're trying to do (except that I'm using Destiny's cable Internet). I have a Linux box acting as a gateway (Linux Mandrake 7.1 or .2, I forget). It's sharing my cable connection with my home LAN and also lets me dial-in from a remote location if I need to.

If you want more information, just post again here :)

[Tharaki]

shezzz, bagal ng dsl kahapon, di ako makapag-upload. butit super bilis na ulit ngayon.

[KuyaDanny]

Originally posted by Ada
Does anyone have the contact numbers for PLDT MyDSL? :)

Three ways:

1) http://www.dsl.pldt.com.ph/
2) Telephone 171
3) email mydsl@pldt.com.ph

You will need to tell them which phone number you want to "DSL-ize". From my experience, methods 1) and 2) are guaranteed to frustrate you. Method 3) is best. Good luck!

[GOwin]

Originally posted by KuyaDanny


Three ways:

1) http://www.dsl.pldt.com.ph/
2) Telephone 171
3) email mydsl@pldt.com.ph

You will need to tell them which phone number you want to "DSL-ize". From my experience, methods 1) and 2) are guaranteed to frustrate you. Method 3) is best. Good luck!
how long does it usually take them to respond? i called up 171 and they informed me that i may in an area where DSL is available but they have to prequalify the line. na-submit ko na online application ko pero i haven't heard a peep from them.

[Ouch]

Originally posted by Ada
Does anyone have the contact numbers for PLDT MyDSL? :)

What area are you at?
I have direct line no#'s of Makati and Alabang...
Its better to call them up there :beam:

[Ouch]

Originally posted by GOwin

how long does it usually take them to respond? i called up 171 and they informed me that i may in an area where DSL is available but they have to prequalify the line. na-submit ko na online application ko pero i haven't heard a peep from them.

it took me almost two months to have
the DSL installed in my house. I had to
call their main office in Alabang and bug
them everyday... sheesh!

[Bravoexo]

It took them half a year before they got my area covered for myDSL...then I submitted the form when I was in the US pa...
Took them a month to actually call me for a prequalify testing...then a week after that...installed na...Once prequalified, mabilis na....yung pila nga lang ang problema...

I submitted my request from their site, btw.

[Ada]

Thanks KuyaD!

Originally posted by Ouch
I have direct line no#'s of Makati and Alabang...

I'm in Makati. I'd appreciate their direct number. Thanks! :)

[netbum]

just curious:

I noticed that there's a compound along Nicanor Garcia (formerly 'Reposo') St. with the myDSL sign on it.

Anyone who knows what that place is for?

[Pao|o]

Dear Valued Subscriber,

Thank you for your continued patronage with PLDT myDSL. In an effort to improve our service and provide you with the fastest residential broadband service at the best value we have activated an additional 45 Mbps to give PLDT a total of 155Mbps in international bandwidth in 2001. Furthermore we will be activating an additional 90Mbps by February 2002 to ensure that we provide you with consistently fast and reliable broadband Internet service. We have also upgraded our subscriber management system, routers, and servers and fine-tuned all network configurations to minimize and eliminate service downtimes and slowdowns.

Our DSL website upgrade projects are also being fast tracked to allow myDSL subscribers access to information regarding their DSL service. This will help you isolate and diagnose problems encountered and enable you to find a solution with the help of an interactive online guide. Furthermore, the website upgrade will allow you to view your billing details and eventually make online payments. We will also be launching value added services such as netgaming and home networking. Finally, an online feedback mechanism will also be implemented to guarantee continuous product improvement and customer satisfaction.

Given however the current economic situation and the rising costs of providing residential broadband Internet and investments made in improving the myDSL service, we will be increasing our monthly service fee beginning February 1, 2002 as follows:

myDSL Personal from P2,000 per month to P2,500 per month
myDSL Professional from P2,500 per month to P3,000 per month.

Installation fee for both packages from P1,500 to P2,000 (applicable to applications made after Feb. 1, 2002)


Rest assured, we remain committed in providing you with the number one residential broadband service in the Philippines at the best value. If you have any clarifications or inquiries please email us at mydsl@pldt.com.ph or call us at 171.


Respectfully yours,

Mr. Claro P. Ramirez
SVP-GMM Retail Business Group

[Pao|o]

Guys you might want to read this thread before doing anything with PLDT DSL.

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=78399

[drageur]

i have received that email too. Our dsl's just newly installed actually, less than a week old. too bad, they're going to raise the price but i guess it's for the best since more and more people subscribe to pldt dsl, they need to upgrade their equipments to serve their customers better.

[sachiel]

I also received that email. Ok lang na itaas nila yun price, pero sana dagdagan rin nila ng bandwidth yun current subs.

[zapped14]

kumusta na ang mga naka PLDT DSL nyo?kc im plannning na mag DSL.Ok ba ang DSL nyo?nde kaya sobra ang bagal?any problem regarding DSL...

[cjgambit]

Originally posted by zapped14
kumusta na ang mga naka PLDT DSL nyo?kc im plannning na mag DSL.Ok ba ang DSL nyo?nde kaya sobra ang bagal?any problem regarding DSL...

Mr. Frodo este zapped14,
myDSL connections speeds vary from subscribers area/location. Some say connection speeds suck at Alabang area, while some Sampaloc subscribers are having good to bad speed connections. Its kinda location depended eh. Where do you plan do have yours? Laguna? hmmmm....


Please visit the following threads:

To Those Who Want Pldt Dsl (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=73905&highlight=DSL)
Unified PLDT DSL thread (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=57438&highlight=DSL)

[Bravoexo]

Bilis niya ngayon. Dati isand 100-180Mb episode in two days....pero ngayon 2 episode overnight...

[FLiPz]

Bravoexo,

nag tweak ka na ba ng connection m0?:rolleyes:

[Pao|o]

That's pretty slow it only takes me 1-2hrs to get a 100-180MB file

[zapped14]

nde ko pa alam kung may problema ** sa amin, sabi sa akin ng frend ko sa PLDT, sabi nya depende daw sa phoneline,kapag masyado daw marami ang naka-kone saisang poste ay talagang mabagal daw. lalo na daw kung may crossline ang line mo.

cjgambit,

musta na sa sphinx ang DSL nila?mabilis ba kahit sabay-saby ang mga gumagamit?san na hingi ko na software?upload mo na ba?hehhehe....


off topic?: san kayo nagdodownload ng mga utils?bukod sa download.com, okay yung free acct ng globe gami ko ngayun...hehehelagi bang meron...

[cjgambit]

Originally posted by zapped14
nde ko pa alam kung may problema ** sa amin, sabi sa akin ng frend ko sa PLDT, sabi nya depende daw sa phoneline,kapag masyado daw marami ang naka-kone saisang poste ay talagang mabagal daw. lalo na daw kung may crossline ang line mo.



well. its location dependent nga eh. kung malayo layo ka sa nearest exchange ng PLDT eh, baka nga di ka pwedeng magka DSL eh. Kung gusto mong maniguro ay magpa sked ka sa PLDT na i-test yung DSL connection sa lugar nyo. Dun nga sa Sphinx, testing muna bago kabit, syempre sila pa.



cjgambit,

musta na sa sphinx ang DSL nila?mabilis ba kahit sabay-saby ang mga gumagamit?san na hingi ko na software?upload mo na ba?hehhehe....

mabilis sya kung mabilis, relative yun tanong mo eh. Compared dun sa dating NET connection, eh mas mabilis hehehehe. Maski magsabay sabay pa sila. Problema nga lang dun yung ibang PC dun. nag ha hang. hwag mo akong tanungin tungkol dun kung bakit, '*** na lang. Ano nga uli yung software na hinihingi mo? nalimutan ko eh. Nagkasakit kase ako eh. (FLU)


off topic?: san kayo nagdodownload ng mga utils?bukod sa download.com, okay yung free acct ng globe gami ko ngayun...hehehelagi bang meron...


hehehe. tagal na nyang globe na yan. bwenas ka nagamit mo. :D

[novice]

wala ba yung pay per connection, parang longdistance kagaya nung sa digitel pampanga

[zapped14]

novice

ang alam ko sa dsl pag nagbayad ka ng monthly or depende sa kinuha mo acct sa pldt yun lang ang bayad mo monthly nde ko lang alam sa ibang lugar...yung sa digitel may DSL din sila..pero nag check ako ng price mas mahal kesa PLDT....




cjgambit,

ahhh, cge salamat...yung software ay yung mga software na para sa netcafe...hehehe,pero yung libre...basta mai-shutdown ko lang pc nya at para tumayo na pag time na k na yun.manula na lang ***** ang time-in at time out...kahit anoa na cool software...tnks...

ano bago ngayun na games???kayo mga frendly friends ano ba ang bago dyan sa shop nyo na games bukad sa Battlea Realms, okay ba empire earth?

[Pao|o]

On Valentines day my connection was mysteriously downgraded to a Personal account (128kbps/64kbps). I went through the hassles of calling them and complaining about it. They said if I wanted a Pro account I had to upgrade it and pay an extra P500.00 for the "upgrading fee" (another word for expressway robbery) to PLDT. I am but a hapless minute customer so I had agree to their (ransom as in Abu Sayaff-style) demands.

I called them today to confirm whether or not they have plans to upgrade me within the month. Sad to say they have no record of my request on file. Sadder still, they do not have a record of my calling them last week.

Learned lesson: When conducting business transactions over the phone with PLDT take note of the time and date of the call, topic of the call and the person whom you talked too. This'll save you a lot of headaches. If you want it done ASAP call them every 24hrs until they too will have a migraine.

The bandwidth's great the customer relation's sucks.

Just when I got my kickass machine... Grrr...

[mickeyREN]

hi, pano mo ba malalaman correctly na talagang naka professionial package ka? naka pro din kasi ako and I want to know if i'm really getting what i'm assured of, 256k/bps :)

thanks! :)

[Tharaki]

mag-eastern telecoms (http://www.etpi.com.ph/) na kasi kayo.......

[rubberdickey]

Ano ka pal-pak naman eastern telecoms eh. Hirap ng tech support nila. mag bayan tel. kana lang good service mula customer relation.. all da way to tech support..:D

[kNIGHT]

I am now using a dsl line. I will help you anytime in need with your dsl connection.

[sachiel]

Originally posted by longshot_21
read it's documentation..... kailangan ata ng fixed ip address sa configuration?! wala naman binigay yun pldt nun. where do i get one?

I also use Raspppoe. Sa akin dynamic pa rin yun IP ko kaya di necessary humingi ng fixed ip address.

[Jazzy Japs]

Originally posted by mickeyREN
hi, pano mo ba malalaman correctly na talagang naka professionial package ka? naka pro din kasi ako and I want to know if i'm really getting what i'm assured of, 256k/bps :)

thanks! :)

I can give you a site where you can test your connection speed, but first a little explanation: :)

Divide your rated bandwidth by 8 to get your download rate in Kilo-BYTES per second, which is what usually most browsers show when downloading something. In your case (256/8) you can have a maximum (ideal) download speed of 32KB/s (32 Kilobytes) per second). But in reality you WON'T get a stable rate like this (due to network factors, etc, etc,). Your actual maximum download rate should be about 80% of your line rating. So if you're downloading something and see the download speed at about 24-26KB/s, then you DO have a 256Kbps bandwidth DSL connection.

You can test your actual speed in this site: DSLReports.com (http://www.dslreports.com/stest)

[ALvs^]

i don't get it, why would they wanna downgrade ur plan if ur paying them naman to have a 256 connection? me din 256 pero for sure manonotice ko if babaan nila yung connection coz mag lalag yung counterstrike hehe...

anyway, horror story ko lang is sometimes in a real hurry to check mail tapos nagbiblink palagi yung light ng dsl sa modem, which is rare naman, yun langÜ

[pSeUdO_bLuE]

Originally posted by Tharaki
mag-eastern telecoms (http://www.etpi.com.ph/) na kasi kayo.......


what the hell are you talking about??? :flamer:

EASTERN sucks bigtime!

palpak lahat ng service...sa una lang maganda...

i would not recommend Eastern in anyway... even if i be paid!!!




:drive:



:flamer:

[ginoledesma]

They downgraded it without their telling you? What kind of business practice is that? Was there a notice beforehand? And regarding the "get the info when making a tech support call" tip, that really applies to a WHOLE LOT of companies/businesses.

[Pao|o]

They just downgraded me without even telling me. They're one whacked out company. Anyway I was able to call PLDT today and they've confirmed I made the request. Now all I have to do now is wait.

[mickeyREN]

sinusubukan ko kasi ayaw na... dati pwede.... :(

[Pao|o]

What was your setup? I'm trying to get my two BSD boxes and Win98 machine to share a single PLDT DSL connection.

[Bravoexo]

What do you mean?

[Pao|o]

I have two computers running BSD UNIX and a single computer running Windows. I want them all to share the PLDT DSL account I use at the same time.

[cjgambit]

sinusubukan ko kasi ayaw na... dati pwede.... :(

ows?! hmm.... ma-confirm nga mamaya.


I have two computers running BSD UNIX and a single computer running Windows. I want them all to share the PLDT DSL account I use at the same time.

get a hardware router? I think Bravoexo uses one (wireless pa nga eh).

[flashgod]

im using 2 winxp computers, i just enabled the other computer to share its internet connection. its working.

Or you can try winproxy 4. run winproxy 4 on the pc that shares the internet connection.

DO NOT USE WINROUTE on winXP!!!!! its goint to crash. BELIEEEEVE me. it took me a day to figure it out.

no need for hardwares.

[cjgambit]

Originally posted by mickeyREN
sinusubukan ko kasi ayaw na... dati pwede.... :(

pwede pa naman ah :glee: nagana pa.:)
Personal, Pro, Biz, it works w/ software or hardware routers.
ayon sa survey ko. pero yun iba mabagal pa ren (compared with 'real' DSL) mwehehehehehe. atleast you can connect to the Internet. :bounce:

[sleep]

it still works. i set up my friend's pc on linux to be a dialin server for his cyber cafe, and it also NATs the two pcs he has at home.

check your configs. :D

[cjgambit]

Originally posted by sleep
it still works. i set up my friend's pc on linux to be a dialin server for his cyber cafe, and it also NATs the two pcs he has at home.


dialin server. nice. do you know how to speed-up the PPP access? or it is really limited to 33.6kbps? its kinda slow on a network but its adequate for one/two PCs. What line do you use for the dialin server? a separate line or the one with the DSL connection?

[sleep]

ordinary phonelines are limited to 33.6kbps, unless you have an E1R2 line then you can get 56kbps.

he has seprate lines for his dialins

[cjgambit]

Originally posted by sleep
ordinary phonelines are limited to 33.6kbps, unless you have an E1R2 line then you can get 56kbps.

he has seprate lines for his dialins

E1R2 line?=expensive
yup. ordinary phonelines are limited to 33.6kpbs, but most phonelines are capable at <56kbps w/ the right modem pool. ala dial-up ISP. with the right equipment and a fat wallet.

I am trying to find a way to do modem linking (ala ShotGun Technology) problem is I can't seem to do the proper balance/bandwidth loading.

[sleep]

OT:
Originally posted by cjgambit

E1R2 line?=expensive
yup. ordinary phonelines are limited to 33.6kpbs, but most phonelines are capable at <56kbps w/ the right modem pool. ala dial-up ISP. with the right equipment and a fat wallet.

I am trying to find a way to do modem linking (ala ShotGun Technology) problem is I can't seem to do the proper balance/bandwidth loading.

expensive yes.

im not sure you can get 56kbps with an ordinary phoneline even with the right equipment tho... from what i know 33.6kbps is the physical limit for ordinary lines... if that were true we'd be saving a bundle and just get ordinary lines for our 56k dialup lines instead of the expensive E1R2s we have. :D

what sort of modem linking are you doing? MLPPP? EQL?

[Pepe]

Pwede pa naman, ah - have a PC running WinXP Pro, a notebook running W98SE, another notebook running WinXP Pro and a WinCE Handheld PC - all connected to the Net at the same time...

[cjgambit]

Off-Topic: :D


Originally posted by sleep
OT:

expensive yes.

im not sure you can get 56kbps with an ordinary phoneline even with the right equipment tho... from what i know 33.6kbps is the physical limit for ordinary lines... if that were true we'd be saving a bundle and just get ordinary lines for our 56k dialup lines instead of the expensive E1R2s we have. :D

what sort of modem linking are you doing? MLPPP? EQL?

expensive indeed. for a dedicated dial-up. atleast you get the assurance of 'true' >56k connections (downstream/upstream).

theoretically you can get 56kbps (downstream) on a 'clean' POTS, thanks to the v.90 protocol. but there is the 53k (if memory serves right) limit imposed on it. add 'local interference' to that. you'll get less than 56kbps 'promised' connection on POTS. well atleast its much better than plain 33.6kbps (w/c is the physical limit)

modem linking:
MLPPP on Windows = hard to configure. must be ISP related?.
EQL on Linux = never tried, yet.
modem linking overall = I won't bother. Best route would be getting broadband :D or a dedicated line to the Internet.

[sleep]

yep, broadband is the way to go. :D

dialups are dying and so are the traditional ISPs if they dont have any "vision" :rolleyes:

[merlin002]

ICS still works fine :)

[wpg3]

i applyed for a dsl connection and i was connected just last tuesday...PLDT advertised na 128 kb-256kb/sec ang DSL nila. i got the 128 kb/sec expecting na kahit at least 50-80% of 128 kb ang dwnload speed ko...to my surprise, hanggang 10 kb *** ang pinaka mabilis at usually nasa 4 kb lang ang speed! anong klase to? sisingil sila ng P2500 bucks for cr@p!! sa lahat ng nagbabalak magpakabit ng DSL connection sa PLDT, wag nyo na tuloy mag cable na lang kayo! PLDT sucks! such false advertising! u wont get your money's worth! and to top it all off, walang alam sa internet yung mga customer service people nila! tangin@!!

[wpg3]

here's another complaint from a PLDT DSL subscriber... http://www.inq7.net/vwp/2001/aug/30/vwp_2-1.htm

Note: the date that his complaint was posted was on August 29, 2001. i just called PLDT 5 mins ago and theyre still saying the same CR@P.

What managed to entice me this time? PLDT’s myDSL Internet service. Apart from promising connection/downloading speeds of up to 140 times those of ordinary dial-up facilities, myDSL also claimed that the connection, once made, will never be dropped.

Many users of ordinary dial-up Internet access usually complain of dropped connections apart from sloooow up- and down-loading.

An apparent superiority of Internet access via DSL or digital subscriber line is the separation of voice and data. This means that my phone is not tied up while I surf the net.

I will be liberated from the chore of pleading with any of my daughters to please hang-up so I could send columns to my editors.

Of course, the bottom line figure was the biggest attraction. You are to pay a very competitive flat rate for unlimited use. PLDT offered two packages for residential customers: Personal at 2,000 pesos a month with connection speed up to 128 kbps, and Professional at 2,500 pesos a month with connection speed up to 256 kbps.

Since doubling the connection speed did not entail a similar doubling of costs, I decided to go whole hog. I signed up for the Professional package at the nearest PLDT office.

PLDT’s response was admirable. After three days, technicians visited my residence to test if my phone lines were DSL-capable.

Chatting with them, I found out that DSL works with copper, not with fiber-optic, lines and I must be within a five-kilometer radius from the PLDT DSL facility.

My line passed the test and after I purchased and installed a local area network card on my computer, the same technicians installed a new DSL modem and the appropriate software.

However, I had to disconnect the old dial-up modem and uninstall its corresponding software before I could surf in myDSL fashion.

The first two days were divine. Establishing a connection was a breeze. At times, my connection got clocked at speeds greater than 256 kbps. I made the rounds, extolling myDSL to the highest heavens.

But my neighbors and friends were non-committal. Probably they knew the perils of Version 1.

Then the service started to worsen. I could not get connected many times of the day. I even tried waking up at two in the morning but still failed to make a connection. At times when I managed to make one, it gets dropped after a few minutes. Or it was slooooooow.

I called up 177, the PLDT myDSL helpdesk. While the guys manning the desk were courteous, they could not give me a plausible explanation or a remedy. One of them talked vaguely of "network adjustment."

I decided to send an e-mail to ask what was wrong, when the service will be fixed, and whether I will be given a rebate by PLDT for the days that I could not make any connection at all.

By the way, I forgot to tell you that I will have to pay 2,500 pesos if I terminated the service before a year ended.

After five days, I got a funny reply. It was so hilarious but I still managed to remember parts of it. My PLDT correspondent told me that because of their "superior broadband access," the number of myDSL subscribers more than exceeded their initial projections.

And that they have to add more bandwidth to be able to continue offering superior service.

In my riposte, I said it was myDSL’s claims of superiority, rather than their superior service that hooked many like me. I noted also the absence of a concrete response to my query about a possible rebate for poor or non-existent service.

The e-mail’s footer was even murky. It was a colatilla to the effect saying that whatever claims made were not PLDT’s responsibility unless confirmed by a duly-authorized PLDT representative in a separate message.

I e-mailed back: Are you serious? What do you mean by that? Who is this authorized PLDT representative? How will I know if he is indeed the authorized rep? And when will this separate message come?

Since Saturday, myDSL is practically kaput. Now I have a new chore. I have to knock on my neighbor’s door and ask permission to use his "inferior" dial-up facility so I could send this column.

I dare not look at him. I have to keep my head down. If I don’t do that, I might see the unmistakable "Beware of Version 1" smirk on his face.

[wpg3]

And yet another complaint...
Sorry kung mahahaba. Im really pissed off sa false advertising ng PLDT

Dial-up vs. DSL
There are things that the myDSL ad does not tell you.

If you're connected to the Internet, chances are high that you are using a dial-up ISP. If you happen to be some of the lucky ones who can afford high-bandwidth Internet access at home or in the office, then we of the 56Kbps class truly envy you. The faster Internet connection at present is DSL - no one can contest that.

Dial-up and DSL are on totally different levels. Comparing dial-up to DSL is like comparing Dodot Jaworksi to Michael Jordan. The latter is infinitely better, while the other one ... well, you get the point.

Still, against other ISP's offering high-bandwidth connection, I'd take dial-up anytime. Especially if you're using PLDT's myDSL. And even on a head-to-head wager, if its current problems wouldn't be resolved, I'd put my money on my dial-up.

Okay, let's put it this way. If Dodot Jaworski (our dial-up) were to go one-on-one with MJ (our DSL) while MJ has three broken ribs and two bum ankles, he'd stand a chance of winning, right? MJ would still win. So, let's say, aside from the aforementioned disabilities, Michael is also temporarily blind. Now Dodot would certainly win. Dear old slow and somewhat unreliable 56Kbps dial-up would whip DSL anytime, if DSL is in really bad shape. And that is exactly what PLDT's myDSL is right now - crippled.

The PLDT DSL is available only in select areas of the country: Alabang, Balara, Binondo, Cubao, Dansalan (Mandaluyong), Diliman in Quezon City (where I live), Greenhills, Malate, Makati, Ortigas, Sampaloc, Pasay, north area in Para-aque and Metro Cebu.

It is available in two packages: one for business and another for residential. You can go to PLDT's Web site for more information on this. You'll also get an information telling you that "DSL is more than 100 times faster and better than dial-up." But basically, its just a sales pitch.

Here's a portion of that information: "Get high velocity Internet only from PLDT myDSL, an advanced modem technology that converts your ordinary phone lines into your own ultra-fast dedicated access to the Internet. With speed that's up to 140 times faster than the ordinary dial-up connection, it makes downloading of audio/video-on-demand from the World Wide Web a lot faster and smoother. It also allows you to carry out more specialized applications like streaming audio/video, Internet gaming and video telephony. Extremely fast for those who like to take the Net to the extreme."

Impressive isn't it? The mere idea of being able to download faster makes my mouth water. Unfortunately, there are things that the myDSL ad does not tell you.

Every 10 to 15 minutes or so, the connection gets dropped. Yes, you read it right: dropped. My boss was the first to alert me on this, and I was told it's not an isolated case. Doing a little sleuthing of my own, I found out that for most subscribers, the connection gets dropped quite often. Though not as often as my boss who gets dropped like a hot potato every 10 minutes.

This for a service that is not supposed to behave like a dial-up connection. One of the most annoying things dial-ups do is getting constantly disconnected every hour. DSL on the other hand, is supposed to provide you uninterrupted access once you're connected - and you're supposed to establish a connection one time. That's why it's called an "always-on Internet connection." But with myPLDT, it's not anymore "always-on" - it's "always-dropped connection."

Another funny thing is, after several dropped connections, the tech support at myDSL instructed us to disable our anti-virus software. Somehow, said the technician, the anti- virus software was interfering with the connection. I'm not an expert on DSL, but this sounds completely absurd. It is probably the most absurd thing that I've ever heard a technician advise to a client.

Turn off my anti-virus software? Yeah, right - and let all the hackers in the world take a look and see in my system. DSL is mostly used by businesses that require maximum speed and maximum protection. Those who subscribe to DSL don't just send e-mail and text messages! There are corporate secrets to protect, vital documents to send and receive, and millions in potential revenue can be lost if even just one virus gets through. And they want us to disable our anti-virus?

What's the use of having anti- virus software to monitor files from the Internet if you can't even get on the Net unless you kill the virus killer? I might as well place an ad in front of my house saying, "All hackers and worms, viruses and Trojans code writers are welcome."

Or, to make the conspiracy theory complete, someone at the myDSL office probably plan to wreak havoc in the IT world by asking everyone to disable their anti-virus and peppering them with worms, macros and Trojans. But, that's a little too farfetched. After all, if their solution for the connection problem is to disable Mr. Norton and Mr. McAfee, I would guess they won't be able to come up with such a complicated plan.

Internet access, via DSL, is expensive. The prices are so high they induce nosebleeds. And all those for unjustifiably terrible service? Not worth it.

If PLDT plans to keep their customers happy, or even just keep them at all, they should properly equip their staff to handle situations like this. They also need professionals, those who know DSL as a technology, not just some linemen who tinker with it via trial-and-error. After all, DSL is a multimillion-peso technology, where the potential profits are also in the multimillions.

Unless PLDT finds a way, for now, I'm sticking with Dodot.

[chinkybubbles]

I would have to agree with you, wpg3. I am part of the production support team in the company I work for. I used to dial up to our office network from my home support system. Nakakainis kasi gumagapang talaga yung connection as what can be expected. So recently, the company availed of PLDT myDSL services for my home support. I tried it just a few days ago. I noticed that the connection seems to drop every so often. As in!!!! Mas mabilis nga sya sa dial-up, pero halos minu-minuto napuputol naman! Grabe kakainis! I reported it to our network admin and he said normal daw yun accdg to PLDT personnel. Grabe 'no! First time ko pa lang nagamit so I initially thought na baka there were problems with PLDT at that time. Tapos I got to read this, sakto! :grrr:

[SSJ_Vegeta]

wow...talk about testimonies to a flagrant RIPOFFFF!!!!:chainsaw:

hmmm, thanks for the info wpg3, chinkybubbles. now we know. alma ko *** recurring problem with people from customer service pero i never thought theyd sink this low, false advertising. :no:

[bondying]

Reading these horror stories, my conclusion is that PLDT is not ready and capable of DSL service to large number of subscribers.

PLDT is using the DSL idea to entice subscribers but not telling them that they are not capable of delivering consistent service to large number of subscribers.

Either ways PLDT is assured of at least P2500 from every subsriber for this crap if they opt to cancel the subscription and much more if customers continue their monthly payment for this crap.

[neonique]

DSL isn't the horror that all of you think. I play with some DSL players on my gaming network, and they seem to be disgruntled, there are a LOT of problems with DSL service. But of course, its not all that bad, there are good days (according to them), I think DSL just lacks service consistency. I do have a friend whose service is very consistent (he lives near the switching station for DSL) his speeds exceed those of his plan. It's sometimes a hit and miss thing really.

I'm currently on cable broadband, which seems to be more consistent than DSL service, I was weighing DSL and CABLE last year, but opted for cable, because of its better track record in the philippines.

[IceKnight]

whew! buti na *** when i applied for myDSL last year, i got a reply telling me that im out of the 50-sumthin radius of whatever-it-is. hehehe. otherwise, ill be pulling my hair to extinction. :bop:

hehehe. id stick with cable na *** muna siguro, kaya *** mejo expensive sya eh ako *** naman ang net junkie in our whole house.

thanks for the warning!!! :D ill think of subscribing at myDSL when they increase their bandwidth na ***. :D

[meleagant8]

pano yan?ano pa ba magandang isp provieder...

[DeepZer0]

Hmm... mine's Destiny Cable and I'm planning to switch to PLDT DSL... is it good or not??? Kase tagal ko nang sinusubaybayan talaga yang DSL kung okay siya or not... KSE...


DESTINY CABLE SUCKS!!
Lagi na lang page cannot be found or puro broken images....
tapos nagcompare kami ng download friend ko na naka pldt dsl...

file: 75 mb
started simultaneously.
after 45 mins. PLDT DSL is done d/ling the file,
while Destiny... just 10% of the file.

so now... ano na? cable or dsl?

[KapuTt]

hey stop complaining, we're in the philippines remember ?
:D:D:D
lahat naman ng ISP pag tumagal bumabagal na eh.
at first it's gonna be really fast coz there's just few users.
i'm one of the few users that first subscribed to Destiny, and umaabot pa ng 100kb/sec dati nun.

PLDT DSL is quite fast too but I doubt that it's faster than Destiny.
last week i heard so many complains abt PLDT DSL, pero ngayon ok na daw ulit.

75 MB in 45 mins ??? baka naman sa kapwa DSL *** download.

[neonique]

trust me it is much faster than Destiny. I'm on now cable, I have no problems naman so far... I think we have it better off than Destiny cable ppl.

[meleagant8]

so?ano **** ang the best?iniisip ko na rin kasi naadik na ko sa net...tsaka para makalro ako sa GAMESPY!
hehe!


teka....pag cable or dsl na ko pwede pa ba ako mag dial up?

[kNIGHT]

I have not experienced such problems with my DSL line. I want to have more speed though. Make sure your phone line has no extension because when you lift the extension, the connection disconnects.

[meleagant8]

Originally posted by kNIGHT
I have not experienced such problems with my DSL line. I want to have more speed though. Make sure your phone line has no extension because when you lift the extension, the connection disconnects.

oo nga...bad trip pag may extension at may kapatid ka na kahit madaling araw eh gumagamit pa rin ng phone!

[Brandon96]

Sige guys, poll tayo:

Which is better among the ff:

1) Destiny Cable Internet
2) ZPDee
3) Sky Internet
4) Infocom
5) Globe NX
6) MyDSL of PLDT

I have heard no one complain yet about ZPDee, kaya siguro dun na lang ako (if ever it comes to my place in Marikina).

Infocom is the fastest and most reliable dial up yata di ba?

[meleagant8]

Originally posted by Brandon96
Sige guys, poll tayo:

Which is better among the ff:

1) Destiny Cable Internet
2) ZPDee
3) Sky Internet
4) Infocom
5) Globe NX
6) MyDSL of PLDT

I have heard no one complain yet about ZPDee, kaya siguro dun na lang ako (if ever it comes to my place in Marikina).

Infocom is the fastest and most reliable dial up yata di ba?

****?edi dapat pati cable ko sa TV ganun din?

[DeepZer0]

Originally posted by Brandon96
Sige guys, poll tayo:

Which is better among the ff:

1) Destiny Cable Internet
2) ZPDee
3) Sky Internet
4) Infocom
5) Globe NX
6) MyDSL of PLDT

I have heard no one complain yet about ZPDee, kaya siguro dun na lang ako (if ever it comes to my place in Marikina).

Infocom is the fastest and most reliable dial up yata di ba?

Ahehehe... kaya alang reklamo sa ZPDee kasi ala masyadong nagaaply... biro mo... ang bayaran ay based sa per MB ang na download mo... so it is equivalent to at least 50 MB biggie websites!!! so pano na kung pex forum??? e di madami download! tapos 4mb na mp3 laki na sobra bayad mo!!!

Based on my experiment.... PLDT pa rin... pero I am currently curious about Globe NX

So.. My vote goes to PLDT

[meleagant8]

kaso mabagal na daw eh

[wpg3]

id go for destiny cable. yung friend ko naka destiny umaabot ng 40-50kbps yung dwnload speed nya consistently. nag merge kasi ang destiny cable internet sa isang compant ( i dnt know what it is) para bumilis yung speed e:D

[rey_pinioco]

Destiny is fast. I usually reach top speed (at 65 kilobytes/second) when downloading large files (Quake 3 mods, service packs, movie trailers). Plus, I like the free cable TV with all the STAR channels :D

[meleagant8]

bat sabi ng iba pangit daw destiny?

[Brandon96]

Cge sa Destiny na ako sasali. Tama ka Melegant8 mrami din reklamo sa Destiny...meron pa ngang spoof website online eh na iniispoof ang DestinyInternet official site pero tinitira ang mga kabagalan/ka-lousyhan (diumano) nito.

[meleagant8]

di ko magets brandon...u will still go with destiny?

[wpg3]

brandon, mas mabuti pa siguro kung mag destiny ka... From my personal experience, it is better and more reliable (and you get free cable too!)

Don't get me wrong, i still prefer PLDT's MyDSL more than any dial-up... its just that with all the HYPE that they put into their advertising, you tend to have very high expectations and when reality hits you.... Talagang maiinis ka! That is what pisses me off the most, yung false claims (the 140X faster CR@P!)

PLDT MyDSL is the slowest kind (ADSL, A for Assymetric) meaning mas mabilis yung dowload kesa sa upload. I believe there are other providers of DSL, and the faster ones too (SDSL, S for Symmetric), etc.

ewan ko lang kung may T1 na dito sa pinas. That is the fastest of all. 1.5 Mbps ang speed! a 2 minute download using a fast DSL connection would only take about 12 seconds in a T1 connection!

pero ibang usapan na yun :D

[SuPeR_MaN]

Originally posted by wpg3
brandon, mas mabuti pa siguro kung mag destiny ka... From my personal experience, it is better and more reliable (and you get free cable too!)

Don't get me wrong, i still prefer PLDT's MyDSL more than any dial-up... its just that with all the HYPE that they put into their advertising, you tend to have very high expectations and when reality hits you.... Talagang maiinis ka! That is what pisses me off the most, yung false claims (the 140X faster CR@P!)

PLDT MyDSL is the slowest kind (ADSL, A for Assymetric) meaning mas mabilis yung dowload kesa sa upload. I believe there are other providers of DSL, and the faster ones too (SDSL, S for Symmetric), etc.

ewan ko lang kung may T1 na dito sa pinas. That is the fastest of all. 1.5 Mbps ang speed! a 2 minute download using a fast DSL connection would only take about 12 seconds in a T1 connection!

pero ibang usapan na yun :D

yeah...i agree...there are times that I had a fast connection. ang pangit lang is those attractive words they use to lure subscribers even if it's not true. true, mabilis. ang ayoko sa kanila is yung technical support nila. they can not explain why does the service slowdown etc. i think they are currently updating their capacity since they had more subscribers than what they expect.

regarding other ISPs, there is this SDSL(Symmetric Digital Subscriber Line) used by GlobeNet. Try browsing their site, it's http://www.globenet.com.ph, by the way they also offer T1 and E1 connections but they are very pricey.

[meleagant8]

teka sa prepiads...ano maganda?

[raggster]

destiny is ok enough. it's consistently fast, although your connection speed will depend on the number of subcrsibers in your area. local area newtork (LAN) kasi siya, so more online subscribers means less bandwidth for you. if someone starts downloading something huge, malas mo, kasi malamang mawawalan ka ng bandwidth. happnes to me often, that's why i'm often online very late into the evening, or early morning.

and then there's the cable TV... ;)

[wpg3]

meleagant8,

so far ang pinakamabilis na prepaid na nagamit ko is maxess

[meleagant8]

available ba siya sa lahat ng lugar?magkano?

[Strange_Dejavu]

I just got my first bill for my NON-EXISTENT PLDT MyDSL service... exepecting P4000 maximum (may rebates DAW eh) coz the advertized price was 2500 for the "service" and 1500 for the installation fee. tapos may modem payment pa daw...

It was P5750!!!

Amazingly, my service fee was P3000+ and my installation fee was P1800+ (even after buying most of the cables and sh1t)...

GRABE NA TO SOMEONE DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! :furious:

[Brandon96]

Serious advice ko ito.

Why not all the disgruntled MyDSL dudes and customers get together and threaten PLDT that they will sue? Then get airtime and lambast MyDSL and have the NTC check it out. Of course for that you might as well have a lawyer among yourselves who also hates the poor service he gets from MyDSL para makamura kayo sa fees.

It's time we bring these dang stup1d telecoms to their knees and realize they can't fool Pinoys and leave us in misery.

[flick10]

Originally posted by wpg3
i applyed for a dsl connection and i was connected just last tuesday...PLDT advertised na 128 kb-256kb/sec ang DSL nila. i got the 128 kb/sec expecting na kahit at least 50-80% of 128 kb ang dwnload speed ko...to my surprise, hanggang 10 kb *** ang pinaka mabilis at usually nasa 4 kb lang ang speed! anong klase to? sisingil sila ng P2500 bucks for cr@p!! sa lahat ng nagbabalak magpakabit ng DSL connection sa PLDT, wag nyo na tuloy mag cable na lang kayo! PLDT sucks! such false advertising! u wont get your money's worth! and to top it all off, walang alam sa internet yung mga customer service people nila! tangin@!!

the advertisded 128kb/sec is in kilobits not in kilobytes.
your 10k is 10kilobytes... bytes are bigger than bits. hehe. so i guess ur dl speed is about average. i have friends who are subs of pldt dsl with the 256kb plan, and they dl at 15-25kbytes.

and dont expect to get dl speeds faster than 60kbytes anywhere, im on destiny...i used to have those speeds. now its down to 15-45kb.

[wpg3]

flick,

oo nga alam ko na yun pero palaging hindi umaandar yung connection. nakaconnect ka nga di naman bumubukas yung mga web pages. eto nalang, i went to this website, bandwidthplace.com, and measured up my DSL connection against their data base of other connections... i received a pathetic score which ranked my connection to somewhere in the lower 56k category!!! well that's enough evidence for me!!! :furious:

try mo din yung site na yun to see kung accurate nga... :D

[bondying]

Nagbenta ang SMART ng expensive DSL service na hindi naman ready ang hardware and system nila for a consistently good service or DSL speed connection to all of their paying subscribers.

DSL service connections should be consistently fast (450kbps or faster) and good (always connected) for the most (28 to 30 days) of the month billed to customer.

You people don't have to put-up with this crap.

I suggest talk to a lawyer and computer-telecom experts about class action lawsuit.

[animeniacz]

pldt dsl the technicians that go to ur house dnt know sh:D t

mga lineman ng telepono *** do we expect from dem

tawag ako sa 177 then they send them here *** rin nangyare

hinde nga nila ma pagana tong dsl ko nung 1st month e

bumili pa ako bagong computer for this sh:D t

and lahat ng OS ininstall ko na, sa ME lang gumana *** enternet

*** ibang OS puro server not found.

na cra ulo ko nung 1st month lahat ng files ko na bura pa dahil na cra pa HD ko !!#@$!@#$!@#$#!@

pati lumang P3 ko na sunog din @#$!@#$!@#$!@#


:silly:

[Strange_Dejavu]

Mahirap kasi sa Pinas, di uso ang lawsuit...
if we go up against a giant like PLDT (they also own abs-cbn diba?) well, good luck nalang... kung may backer na mabigat ok pa pero wala din ako tiwala sa justice system natin eh... mas maganda eh ma-prevent natin yung mga ibang tao na maloko ng ganitong klaseng gimmick... discourage natin ang pag subscirbe sa PLDT DSL hanggang walang improvement!

peace! :)

[webberman]

I've been planning to apply for a PLDT DSL connection until I saw this thread. hmmm, makes me have second thoughts.

I've heard good things about Destiny, NOW... and I'm also curious 'bout Globe's DSL. Has anyone tried Globe? It's by far the most expensive package in my opinion but since this is an Ayala company, I believe that you will get your money's worth.

;)

[Strange_Dejavu]

webberman,

regarding Globe DSL, i believe they still don't have the residential DSL, meaning for businesses palang ang offer nila... pero coming soon na daw eh... i suggest you ditch all your second thoughts and scrap any idea of getting PLDT DSL! nakakainis talaga ang service nila. mukhang maganda yung globe DSl so i think it's worth the wait.

you can check it out at their website! :D

[Brandon96]

The reason why this country is going to the dogs is not so much the form of government we have right now, or whoever sits on the throne, or the indiscretions committed by gov't officials both at higher and lower levels, but more of our REFUSAL TO TAKE ACTIVE STEPS TO STOP ABUSE OF OUR RIGHTS AND TO ASSERT OUR INTERESTS. The good thing about the party list groups now in Congress is their militancy that keeps us awake when we'd rather ignore the oppression ongoing for years.

Wake up, people! Let's organize as consumers and bring KMPI and CUP out from their dusty shelves and sue PLDT to death!

THIS IS A SERIOUS MESSAGE.

[R0G3R]

gusto kolang ipagmalaki...

access.net dsl

2.2T/month
2.5T installation w/ lan card (kahit meron kanang lan)

di ko lam activated areas pero meron sa office area namin thank goodness...

pwedeng phone application lang tapos installed by the following day...

sana lang mabilis...

;)

[rosychik]

Originally posted by meleagant8
teka sa prepiads...ano maganda?

Kahit sa pre-paids, Pacific Internet is still the best. Currently, they have a promo of P100 = 5 regular hrs. + 4 extra hrs, for a total of 9 hrs. = P100 card.

Second is Konek w/ a standard package of P100 = 10 regular hrs.

Jade is also on a promo at P100 = 10 hrs., though I haven't tried it.

P.I. and Konek are both capable of 115,200 max. speed compared to other pre-paids. *okay*

[flashgod]

get the 256kbps, lugi ka sa 128

[Johnny64]

PLDT myDSL now cost 2500 for 128 kbps and 3000 for 256 kbps...just a correction.

[R0G3R]

residential rates payan... kung residential line ka...

ive inquired with pldt and if u happen to own a business line mydsl will cost a whopping 5T/mo...

malas kasi nasa building kami... di pwede magapply ng residential line...

try mo access.net.... meron silang dsl... P2200/mo residential or business...

[bondying]

Just wondering if you guys have seen this topic thread....

PLDT MyDSL a total ripoff!

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=87864

[Pao|o]

Originally posted by rosychik
P.I. and Konek are both capable of 115,200 max. speed compared to other pre-paids. *okay*

That figure's a misnomer (error msg) of Windows. 56K modems can barely do 5-7KB/s.

[Strange_Dejavu]

Paolo,

sorry pero ang ibig sabihin ng "Misnomer" ay :

1. An error in naming a person or place.
2. Application of a wrong name.
3. A name wrongly or unsuitably applied to a person or an object

[Middle English misnoumer, from Old French mesnomer, to misname]

gusto ko lang i-share! :D

:rolleyes:

[Lenny]

My ISP is DSL, ok naman siya. But at times, well for the past few days nangyayari mas malaki ang Tx Bytes kaysa sa Rx Bytes, it should be the other way around. Kahit papano I'm quite contented for DLS now kasi major hotline phone line namin eh.

[unplugged]

Destiny? YUCK!!!

ang BAGAAAAAALL!!! :(

subukan nyo gumamit ng P2P programs such as morpheus or winmx... tignan natin kung aabot kayo ng 2 K/sec.

[wpg3]

subukan nyo gumamit ng P2P programs such as morpheus or winmx... tignan natin kung aabot kayo ng 2 K/sec

friend ko naka destiny umaabot ng 40-50 k and download nya...depende siguro sa location mo kung gaano kabilis d/l mo

[Pao|o]

My apologize I must have missed that in English 101. At the risk of being out of topic can we go back on topic instead of my language usage? If I recall correctly taglish is far worse offense on the English and Filipino language than my simple usage error. Nice dictionary.com h4x0rZ sk|11z

The way Destiny's being run is more on who's the favorite business partner of the moment. That's why it's heaven one month and hell the other. If I recall correctly Anything that requires a direct connection from a single source sucks. Anything that requires cache would rock. Just like what wpg3 mentioned earlier it is where you live and how many subscribers are in your area.

[cyco]

im using pldt dsl right now (256Kbps) and its good, download ko sa fileplanet.com com is 20-30 kbps per second. sa audiogalaxy 15kbps, sa kazaa or morpheus it depends kung kanino ka nagdodownload. minsan 20kbps yung speed minsan naman 1kbps.

nagdownload kasi ako ng dsl tweaker. (adjusts your dsl settings) para mas mabilis, and it works for me. you can get it at www.cablenut.com , nung first week ng paginstall ng dsl ko medyo mabagal yung connection pero ngayon ok na

[kenjes75]

anybody know how to share my pldt dsl connection?
do i have to book it up to a hub? and what software
to use, is it wingate??

or is it better to use a router? if so which one
and does anyone know how much it costs

[Pao|o]

Starting with Windows 98 SE MS has bundled "Internet Sharing" application with it.

[kenjes75]

is that it, does the pc with the dsl connection have to have two lancards. and then connected to a hub?? or how do i make the connection to teh second pc, coz the dsl modem doesnt have any other port?

[kenjes75]

any more ideas or info... guys pls help!!!!

[mandrakephil]

put two lancards on the pc connected to the dsl
lets say eth0 is connected to the dsl then connect the eth1 using a crossover cable to the other computer then use you internet connection wizard to configure ur server .... i think im more familiar with linux eh but try that...

[sandstig]

1) What operating system are you using on the computers?

2) How many computers do you want to hook up?

3) How many NICs do you have? Are you willing to purchase more?

4) Do you already have a hub or a switch? Are you willing to purchase one? (An 8-port 10/100 switch costs less than 5,000)

5) A dedicated router costs between 6,000 and 9,000 pesos. Are you willing to purchase one?

[traxidfr]

hello!
http://http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/fb853f59/bc/Yahoo!+Photo+Album/grad+ball.jpg?bc1YhM9AMjrJ7oy5

[Pao|o]

Originally posted by traxidfr
hello!
http://http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/fb853f59/bc/Yahoo!+Photo+Album/grad+ball.jpg?bc1YhM9AMjrJ7oy5
Ano yan?

[semi_charmed]

install dial-up server and internet sharing to your pc

[HotDog]

Originally posted by semi_charmed
install dial-up server and internet sharing to your pc
Dial-up server ??? to share a DSL?

[crypto]

If you use OS from MS, lets say Win2k Server, then its better to use its native Router, you dont need to buy expensive router, just a crossover will do if you have just 2 pc but if not try to buy a minimal cost hub...that will suffice your requirement. If you dont know how to configure Win2k server for DSL sharing, read the Help, it can help you a lot.

HTH

[semi_charmed]

Originally posted by HotDog

Dial-up server ??? to share a DSL?

if you want to share it to someone na hindi mo kasama sa bahay.

[mon_fury]

Just use a hub! then u cud use a program called winproxy

[Pao|o]

Originally posted by mon_fury
Just use a hub! then u cud use a program called winproxy

Problem with winproxy is it easy for script kiddies to break into.

[benjiep]

get a home-type gateway/router. USR8000 with latest firmware is quite good, can even share a 56K dial-up connection.

[crazieblue]

we got a pc shop and we use pldt dsl..

we use wingate for the net server only.. sa ibang pc, we just have to configure the internet LAN settings..

and yeah, you will need two lancards for the main pc..

[ruger]

i always get a "connection failed" error when i try connecting using the internet connection setup at the mandrake control center..

[WickoWicko]

da best parin talaga ang destiny! lalo na ngayon! ive been using destiny for almost a year now....nung past few months ang bagal talaga! as in! pero now okie na sya ambilis na! im just glad that i got cable instead of dsl :p

[kenjes75]

Originally posted by sandstig
1) What operating system are you using on the computers?

WIN98SE, CAN I USE THE INTERNET CONNECTION SHARING FEATURE?

HOW DO I DO THAT? PLS HELP

2) How many computers do you want to hook up?

TWO OR THREE MAX

3) How many NICs do you have? Are you willing to purchase more?

YES EACH HAVE ONE, BUT I THINK THE ONE WITH THE DSL
WILL NEED TO HAVE TWO RIGHT?

4) Do you already have a hub or a switch? Are you willing to purchase one? (An 8-port 10/100 switch costs less than 5,000)

NO DO I NEED ONE, IF I'M ONLY CONNECTING TWO OR 3 COMPUTERS?

5) A dedicated router costs between 6,000 and 9,000 pesos. Are you willing to purchase one?

AGAIN DO I NEED ONE

[kenjes75]

Originally posted by crazieblue
we got a pc shop and we use pldt dsl..

we use wingate for the net server only.. sa ibang pc, we just have to configure the internet LAN settings..

HOW MANY OTHER COMPUTERS HAVE U GOT HOOKED UP TO
THE MAIN ONE WITH THE DSL CONNECTION?

IS IT MORE THAN ONE OR TWO??

DO YOU CONNECT THEM ALL THRU A HUB?

and yeah, you will need two lancards for the main pc..

YEAH I GOT THAT ALREADY, BUT IF I'M ONLY CONNECTING TWO
WILL I STILL NEED A HUB OR CAN I CONNECT THEM DIRECTLY
IF I'M CONNECTING ONLY TWO DO I STILL NEED WINGATE?

THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR THE INFO

[spiff41398]

4) Do you already have a hub or a switch? Are you willing to purchase one? (An 8-port 10/100 switch costs less than 5,000)

FYI, PCX sells an 8-port switch for P1,950 only.

YEAH I GOT THAT ALREADY, BUT IF I'M ONLY CONNECTING TWO WILL I STILL NEED A HUB OR CAN I CONNECT THEM DIRECTLY IF I'M CONNECTING ONLY TWO DO I STILL NEED WINGATE?

If you're only connecting two clients, you don't need a hub/switch. For three clients or more, you'll definitely need a hub/switch. You also don't need Winproxy or Wingate to share the connection. Win98SE has ICS built-in.

Check out this website for instructions.

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/ics

[rwchick]

hi! my brother and i want to connect our computers and share DSL connection. two computers lang kami and may ginawa na siya na mga interconnecting wires. but he can't seem to make it work! would anyone of you know a PC shop or something who's willing to do home service for that? Ortigas Center area kami. thanks! :D

[spiff41398]

hi! my brother and i want to connect our computers and share DSL connection. two computers lang kami and may ginawa na siya na mga interconnecting wires. but he can't seem to make it work! would anyone of you know a PC shop or something who's willing to do home service for that? Ortigas Center area kami. thanks! :D

What kind of UTP cable did he get? Straight or crossover? Because you'll need the latter if you're going to connect 2 computers directly.

[dafunk]

how about sharing this through a dial-up? will it work?

[ruger]

off topic hehe umm.. san pwede makabili ng crossover cable? *** ready made na hehe tamad kasi ako gumawa eh..

[spiff41398]

how about sharing this through a dial-up? will it work?

Do you mean, instead of a broadband connection, you're just going to share a dial-up connection on one PC to another, connected via crossover cable? Yes, it will work, same concept. I actually share my dial-up connection on my LAN shop (using a switch of course) because broadband isn't available in the area. For basic email, casual surfing and IRC, it works great. I even added Proxy+ to cache very frequented webpages so that it loads faster.

off topic hehe umm.. san pwede makabili ng crossover cable? *** ready made na hehe tamad kasi ako gumawa eh..

I don't know where you can buy crossover cables off the shelf. Magpa-crimp ka na lang sa PCX. P10/meter, P16 dalawang RJ-45 connector, at P10 yung crimping service. Mura na yon. =)

[dafunk]

Originally posted by spiff41398


Do you mean, instead of a broadband connection, you're just going to share a dial-up connection on one PC to another, connected via crossover cable? Yes, it will work, same concept. I actually share my dial-up connection on my LAN shop (using a switch of course) because broadband isn't available in the area. For basic email, casual surfing and IRC, it works great. I even added Proxy+ to cache very frequented webpages so that it loads faster.


yes its sharing a broadband connection. in this case, the computer that has a broadband connection will share that access with another remote computer (meaning: the only way to have those 2 computer connect is through a dial-up server thru modem set-up by the computer w/ a broadband connection)

i'm too lazy to actually set this up :D

[Twisha]

Why is it that PLDT DSL wont give you a copy of their driver for the DSL? When we format our server, we have to call them again and ask them to go to our office just to install the driver. If you ask for a copy they will never give you one or even copy to your hard drive. :mad:

Is someone here have a copy? Can you PM me the link so that I can download it from you. Pls... :)

[rwchick]

Originally posted by spiff41398


What kind of UTP cable did he get? Straight or crossover? Because you'll need the latter if you're going to connect 2 computers directly.

he got the crossover cable daw. stumped na din siya why di mag-work! :confused2:

[jtan]

try mo manual connection, have you check the eth0 eth1 sana hindi nag mix up, i think you need to manually specify which network card you are using for connecting dsl in case you have two network cards

[Ichitaka_Seto]

kailangan ang mga sumusunod:

2 lan card(for dsl)/modem and lan card (dial up) sa PC na kumokonek sa internet. Connected yung gateway pc dun sa isa pang pc using crossover cat-5 cable na sa PCX daw pede ipa-crimp.

Network Settings:
kelangan pag punta mo sa control panel>>networks ay meron ka ng mga sumusunod at kung wala ay use the add button

FOR DSL:
(internet gateway pc)
Microsoft Logon
Client for Microsoft Networks
Cnet PRO200 (sample brand name lang to)
DLink 530TX (sample lang ulit)
Dial-Up Adapter(kung ang dialler mo ay Winpoet at hindi Enternet)
TCP/IP-CNET Pro200
TCP/IP-Dlink 530TX
TCP/IP-Dial-Up Adapter
File and Print Sharing (eto pede wala kung ayaw mo)

(the other pc)
same as above except isa lang siempre ang lancard at walang dial-up adapter

FOR DIAL-UP MODEM:
same as above pero siempre hindi mawawala yung Dial-UP Adapter sa Gateway PC


Para sa DSL, if for example you are going to use the CNET lancard to connect to your dsl modem then you will just leave alone the properties of that lancard. But for the DLink lancard which you are
going to connect to the other pc, you have to do the ff.

Go to network applet, then click to highlight on the TCP/IP which bound to the DLink lancard. It looks like this:
TCP/IP->Dlink 530TX
After being highlighted, click properties then click the IP Address. Here you have to click on "Specify an IP Address" then enter the following:
IP Address: 192.168.0.1
Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
click ok to restart. Maghahanap nga pala yan ng windows installer cd kung 98/ME OS mo.

No need to do something to the other pc yet.

Go to www.sygate.com and download Sygate Home Networking software. Go to www.serial.ws to get the... alam mo na malamang noh!

Install it on the gateway pc as 'server' dun sa option habang nag-i-install. After installing punta ka sa CONFIGURATION ng Sygate and click Auto-detect sa left side while choose the lan card you connect to the other pc sa right side, which in our case is the DLink Adapter.

Then ok mo na configuration at balik ka na sa main window ng sygate. Punta ka sa Tools >> Create client setup floppy.
Here you will need a diskette. After creating the client setup floppy go to the other pc and insert the foppy and double click the *.exe file on the diskette.

Tapos ano pa ba? Tapos na pala ^__^
no hassles di ba?

[Ichitaka_Seto]

Kapag naman XP ang OS mo, mas madali. Di ko na sasabihin para mahirapan ka naman :D

Basta sa XP, di mo na kailangan dialer pag dsl ka. Sharing is automatic na rin.

At kung 3 or more pc mo at bumili kang hub, straight-through yung cable mo at hindi crossover. I-specify mo yun dun sa taga-crimp kse lagi straight-through lang usually gawa nila.

[Ichitaka_Seto]

Wag ka na gumamit ng Wingate/Winproxy baka mabulabog pa utak mo ....hehehehehe Sa sygate automatic na lahat...
uncheck mo lang yung dial-on-demand while checking never hang-up at sa tools>>minimize on startup, load at startup

[sandstig]

Originally posted by kenjes75
1) What operating system are you using on the computers?

WIN98SE, CAN I USE THE INTERNET CONNECTION SHARING FEATURE?

HOW DO I DO THAT? PLS HELP

Yes, you can use the Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) feature of Win98SE. Click on Start->Settings->Control Panel->Add/Remove Programs->Add/Remove Windows Component then install Internet Connection Sharing on the machine wherein you have your DSL software installed. (Most likely EnterNet 300). Make sure all your PCs are using the same Workgroup name and that all of them, except for the connecting machine is set to find the IP address automatically.



Originally posted by kenjes75
2) How many computers do you want to hook up?

TWO OR THREE MAX

Get a swith to be sure. They go for between 1,950 to 2,900 pesos over at PC Express for the 8-port models.



Originally posted by kenjes75
3) How many NICs do you have? Are you willing to purchase more?

YES EACH HAVE ONE, BUT I THINK THE ONE WITH THE DSL
WILL NEED TO HAVE TWO RIGHT?



Originally posted by kenjes75
4) Do you already have a hub or a switch? Are you willing to purchase one? (An 8-port 10/100 switch costs less than 5,000)

NO DO I NEED ONE, IF I'M ONLY CONNECTING TWO OR 3 COMPUTERS?

It's better to go get yourself a switch that way you've got a few more ports to play with later on if someone decides to bring their laptop to your place. Although it would be possible for you to put two NICs on each PC and build your network that way, I wouldn't recommend it.



Originally posted by kenjes75
5) A dedicated router costs between 6,000 and 9,000 pesos. Are you willing to purchase one?

AGAIN DO I NEED ONE?

You don't really need one, but it would make your life a little easier.


Anyway, with regards to connecting three PCs, what I do is I connect an ethernet cable from my Nokia M5122's ETH1 to the uplink port of my switch. From the switch, I connect three other PCs and I have one PC, which I hardly switch off, running RAS PPPoE as a shared connection. The other PCs are set to resolve their IP addresses automatically. Saves me the use of an extra NIC.

[prof_x]

Originally posted by jtan
try mo manual connection, have you check the eth0 eth1 sana hindi nag mix up, i think you need to manually specify which network card you are using for connecting dsl in case you have two network cards

First, ensure that you are using PPPoE on that device. Second, use DHCP unless you were given a static IP address.

[zimdude]

can you run servers on residential DSL?

[skyme]

Originally posted by zimdude
can you run servers on residential DSL?

as far as i know running personal servers are ok... pero kung pang high loads yun ata pinagbabawal... ewan ko sa pldt labo ng User Agreement nila eh..

[rwchick]

Originally posted by Ichitaka_Seto
Kapag naman XP ang OS mo, mas madali. Di ko na sasabihin para mahirapan ka naman :D

Basta sa XP, di mo na kailangan dialer pag dsl ka. Sharing is automatic na rin.

At kung 3 or more pc mo at bumili kang hub, straight-through yung cable mo at hindi crossover. I-specify mo yun dun sa taga-crimp kse lagi straight-through lang usually gawa nila.

pano kung yung PC ko, win98 tapos yung sa brother ko, win XP. nagawa na niya lahat nung nakasulat na instructions mo except for the TCP/IP set-up. kelangan pa ba gawin yung TCP/IP set-up?

[JinRS]

Question, is it possible to share your DSL account through dial-up? For example, if I'm at home and the phone line with the DSL connection is at another place. Can I use dial-up networking to access the DSL account? If yes, how? Thanks in advance! :)

Off topic, how do you apply for the PLDT DSL email? Thanks again! :D

[Ichitaka_Seto]

to rwchick:

kung 98 ang gateway mo at client yung XP, turn on sharing on sygate dun sa 98 pc then go to the client pc(XP) and do the following:

right click My Network Places sa desktop then properties >> doubleclick Network Setup Wizard at pa-nextnext ka lang hanggang mapunta ka dun sa ma y 2 options, piliin mo yung "this pc connects to another pc with internet..." then cguraduhin mo na pareho ang workgroup name nung parehong pc...(take note: dapat all caps yung workgroup name mo sa 98 pc mo kse di tumatanggap ng small caps ang XP:p ) after nun, ok na po ^^

kung XP ang gateway mo naman, di mo na kailangan ng sygate...
punta ka sa New Connection Wizard (by right clicking My Network Places>>properties too). U'r choices will be connect to the internet~~>>connect manually...~~>>connect using broadband requiring passwords~~>>type the specifics, then finish!

After that, punta ka naman sa Network Setup Wizard (magkatabi lang sila), tapos choice mo dun sa 2 options is "this pc connects directly blah blah blah" and then make a client setup floppy... then share the connection by using that floppy on the 98 pc... mas madali di ba?

ti JinRS:

di yata pede yun eh... yung dsl email naman 893-8000 o kung mali, 141 na lang and ask for infocom hotline...infocom handles email.

PLDT DSL is the lamest in the region!!!!!!!! stay away from it!!!!!!! *hikbi* hehe

[JinRS]

Ichitaka_Seto : Thanks for the info! :) So yung mga pinost mo earlier ay para sa sharing ng DSL sa LAN? :?:

[Ichitaka_Seto]

opo...dsl sharing w/o hub (2 pc's)

[rwchick]

Ichitaka_Seto

thanks for your info! pero di pa pala kami naka-network together! can you please tell me the steps to network two computers using only lan cards? thanks! :D

[Ichitaka_Seto]

to rwchick :

A. buy:
1. 3 LAN cards (preferably 3Com, DLink, or Cnet) around 400p yata... wag na yung may WOL(Wake-On-Lan) feature para mas mura kse di mo naman usually magagamit yun...

2. UTP cable (12p per meter yata) and 2 RJ45 jack(eto yung parang jack sa phone(RJ11), mas malaki nga lang...

**sa PCExpress daw pede na ipa-crimp(ikabit yung jack sa magkabilang dulo ng cable)... i-specify mo sa taga-crimp na 'crossover' sya (for peer to peer [2 comps lang]) at hindi 'straight-through'(uses hub)...

B. be sure na yung Internet gateway PC mo ay may 2 extra PCI(kulay puti) slots pa... kung wala, pede mo ***** tanggalin yung modem(assuming may modem) since naka DSL ka na...

C. Shutdown your gateway PC, tanggalin ang casing, insert the two LAN cards, install drivers... restart agad when the comp prompt you to restart, wag mo pagsabayin pag-install ng LAN card...

** some old mobos gets confused when 2 lan cards are attached to it thus assigning the same IRQ on the 2 lan cards making the cards not work...so make sure they are on different IRQs. To do that:

1. right clik My Computer icon then clik Properties then go to the device Manager Tab. On the device manager tab, hightlight 'Computer' then clik properties... Tick the Interrupt request (IRQ) and check on the list if your 2 lancards share the same IRQ #. If they do, you should manually assign another # to one of the lancard. Check the manual that comes w/ your lancard on that.... tanong ka na lang ulit kung walang silbi manual mo.

D. follow my previous posts.....


ok?

[JinRS]

I'm back! :D Question lang ulit.

Kapag mag-share ka ng DSL through LAN (3 kasi PC namin) same process lang ba siya kung paano mag-share ng dial-up? Using the internet connection sharing? :)

[Ichitaka_Seto]

PPoE(PLDT DSL) Sharing via a simple hub:

http://i.dslr.net/sharing/share_hub.gif


Your PPPoE software (enternet300 or Winpoet)talks to your ISP to allocate you an IP address for your login name and password.PLDT do not(?) yet limit the number of times this can be done, allowing you to login on more than one PC, and thus get internet access on all with no extra configuration.

!!!!SO THAT MEANS IF YOU HAVE 3 COMPS ON A HUB, YOU CAN DIAL THREE TIMES!!! CAN SOMEBODY TRY THIS?!?! OOOOOPSS!!! I ONLY KNOW OF ONE PERSON WHO HAS AN INSTALLER OF WINPOET OR ENTERNET!!!....ME!!! HEHE :Þ


-or-

Sharing via NAT software:

http://i.dslr.net/sharing/share_ics.gif

This diagram is split on the left to indicate clearly that a hub is not absolutely required when using Windows ICS or similar NAT software -- you can easily connect a 2nd PC to the first "daisy chain like" (you must use CAT-5 cross-over cable for this, and a second network card), and the hub is then not required. A hub is required to hang off more than one PC from the gateway machine.

The gateway PC: Windows 98SE and future versions of windows come with ICS, which allows easy sharing of your single connection to other PCs on a local network. Unfortunately, the gateway PC is somewhat exposed, and may require a software firewall. It also be always on to provide access to the other PCs. Interaction between Windows ICS (or similar NAT software such as Sygate), and any software firewalls, may also be unpredictable.



**taken from dslreports.com

[twisted28]

My family subscribed to PLDT's MyDSL. We have 3 PC's here at home. I was able to configure the network and share the internet access. Am using Win2000 on 1 PC and WinXP on the other 2. All 3 have a 10/100 PCI network card and are connected to a 5-port hub. An additional network card was installed in the win2000 PC in order to connect it to the DSL modem.

Eto ang problema namin. Dun sa 2 WinXP PC's nakaka-access naman sila ng internet however, there are some sites na di ma-open. Kapag ginamit naman ang Win2000 PC na-o-open naman. Anong pwede kong gawin so that all 3 PC's can enjoy "FULL" internet access.

Thank you in advance.

[Krakista]

Please refer to this thread--> pldt dsl sharing (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=100846) :)

[AdD1cT3d]

im planning to subscribe too, twisted28 ok ba talaga MyDSL ng PLDT? at sila ba mag iinstall lahat? at how much nagastos mo in total?

[twisted28]

They offered us free installation, free use of DSL modem and a monthly service fee of P2000.00 .... pretty cool deal. Its not as fast as I thought it would be but it is certainly a lot better than a dial up.

[urnstoff]

http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article04-107

got this one from another thread

[twisted28]

Krakista, urnstoff,

Thank you very much! your response helped a lot!

[kNIGHT]

I got a copy of the installer those PLDT peeps used to install their ENTERnet 300 software. Anyone who can recommend a step by step site to set up the PLDT DSL on a network wherein the OS are Windows 2000? Thanks!

[wakanga]

hey guys i know na ang DSL and CABLE internet are both broadband internet, pero may difference ba sila in configuring your network properties? kasi i have a client na nakacable internet at gusto niya ikabit yung tatlo niyang PC dun,i've already set them up a LAN kasi dati gamit nila is dial-up nakashare lahat yun, pero ngayon nung nagcable sila ayaw magshare, sabi ng kaibigan ko direct ko sa hub yung cable modem then automatic na raw yun na magdetect, kaso ayaw eh? ano ba dapat ang laman ng network properties ko?i already have client for microsoft network,tcp/ip protocol,and the adapter, may kulang pa ba?bakit ba ang hirap iconfigure ng broadband kaysa sa dial-up?

hardware available for setup:

d-link 8-port hub
3-lan cards
cable modem with USB connection
cat-5 cables with rj-45

guys mababaliw ako sa setup ng broadband ano ba talaga dpat configuration nun?saka may kailangan ba akong hingin from the ISP?

i hope makatulong si PHIYU dito kasi his connected to a broadband ISP. and other tech guys gatcho,incuboobs tsong tulong naman hirap magsetup eh,thanks :)

[n3zar]

pwde bang 2 comp ang magconnect sa dsl.. w/o a hub.. basta nakakabit lang *** 2 comp sa modem..(pareho silang may ethermet program for connecting) is it posible?:rolleyes:

[Phiyu]

Originally posted by wakanga
hey guys i know na ang DSL and CABLE internet are both broadband internet, pero may difference ba sila in configuring your network properties? kasi i have a client na nakacable internet at gusto niya ikabit yung tatlo niyang PC dun,i've already set them up a LAN kasi dati gamit nila is dial-up nakashare lahat yun, pero ngayon nung nagcable sila ayaw magshare, sabi ng kaibigan ko direct ko sa hub yung cable modem then automatic na raw yun na magdetect, kaso ayaw eh? ano ba dapat ang laman ng network properties ko?i already have client for microsoft network,tcp/ip protocol,and the adapter, may kulang pa ba?bakit ba ang hirap iconfigure ng broadband kaysa sa dial-up?

hardware available for setup:

d-link 8-port hub
3-lan cards
cable modem with USB connection
cat-5 cables with rj-45

guys mababaliw ako sa setup ng broadband ano ba talaga dpat configuration nun?saka may kailangan ba akong hingin from the ISP?

i hope makatulong si PHIYU dito kasi his connected to a broadband ISP. and other tech guys gatcho,incuboobs tsong tulong naman hirap magsetup eh,thanks :)

Well, actually may na-installan na ako na client wherein he needs to share his DSL connection with in 2 PCs in 2 different rooms. Ibang setting yung ginamit ko dahil dito ay wireless LAN device ang ginamit ko (I used DLink DWL-120 and DWL-650). At first, I tried using Wingate and it is okay. But then the client realized that he needs a setup wherein he can still access DSL internet even when the other PC is off so I recommended him to get a Wireless internet router. The router (SMC7004AWBR - Barricade, can also support upto more than 280 PCs on wireless connection.) I have given him has already built-in NAT/Internet Sharing so madali lang na-setup. He's enjoying it now. Ganun din probably pag di wireless ang setup. I also have a copy of the DSL software from pldt.

:)

[ebtg]

I have two networked computers running Windows XP. One has a hub and both have LAN cards. I can't seem to get the computers to share the DSL connection.

Anyone care to provide us XP users a step-by-step instruction on how to do this?

(PS--I think during my tweaks, I changed the "workgroup" of the computer without the hub. How do I return it to the workgroup that the other computer is in?)

[gorio8]

Originally posted by kNIGHT
I got a copy of the installer those PLDT peeps used to install their ENTERnet 300 software. Anyone who can recommend a step by step site to set up the PLDT DSL on a network wherein the OS are Windows 2000? Thanks!


San ka nakakuha ng installer o driver for PLDT dsl?search ba sa internet o may na-download ka o nagbigay ang mga empleyado ng PLDT?:cool:

[ebtg]

Thanks anyway. I managed to share the DSL connection.

[dexterFrancis]

kuripot nyo naman...ang dami dami nyong PC sa bahay malamang mayaman kayo, ba't hindi na lang kayo bumili ng NAT router? Mga 2000 to 3000 lang yon. isang PC umaabot ng 20T.

Halos lahat naman ng NAT router may PPPoE login configuration para automatic yung login sa ISP.

[Hexley]

The setup I have in the house is simple.

I have a bunch of computers + video consoles connected to a Cable/DSL router and that in turn is connected to the ADSL modem/bridge provided by PLDT. All of them can connect online at the same time. My only problem now is the connection's too slow for me. :(

IMHO this is a more elegant, environment-friendly and simple solution to share Net access. The problem with software routers is that you have to keep at least 1 computer on all the time to share the Net connection. I see this as a waste of electricity and waste of time. You'd have to wait til the the computer router boots up to get online.

The router only costs under P5000. If you can afford two or more computers + a DSL connection then surely you can afford something as inexpensive as a router. Nice thing about routers is that they provide a hardware firewall againt the outside world.

[Witty]

Any pldt mydsl users have experienced constant dropping of internet connection?

This is so annoying, every once in a while my dsl connection drops and connection is back up again after a while. Ii can't play a decent game of warcraft because of this "connection dropping".

and when i called for technical support. they just told me to _reboot_ my PC. Rebooting my pc doesn't have anything to do with the dropping of connection. Baka raw na loose yung cables.... lousy excuse...

why does pldt constantly drops the connection (and changes ip address)? so residential subscribers can't set up their own servers? can we do anything to stop this constant dropping of internet connection?

okay lang yung paminsan minsan... but lately... my connection drops regularly... sometimes more than 3 times is 1 hours.... :mad:

[Myst]

I don't know if my posts counts but when I was a pldt dsl user back in 2001, mas grabe pa ang situation ko talagang bad trip na bad trip ako sa PLDT, hanggang ngayon pala lagi pa rin na dradrop ng connections kaya tuloy bale wala pumila sa irc kasi madidisconnect ka din.

Dude, ganyan talaga you can never have the same ip address in your internet session (maybe for the 1st 30mins only) using pldtmydsl


Best advice, hintayin mo matapos ang contrata mo dyan and look else where...

....marami na rin na deceive ang pldt sa mga ads nila plus you are not getting what you paid for

[audigy]

grabe naman *** 3 times in an hour....

in my year's experience, technical is (sori for my term) plain STUPID. ***** *** mga yun...

i suggest hintayin mo na lang. there was a time dati na ganyan din ako... owel, i just waited.. maayos din yan. kahapon i experience a downtime once.... pag sumunod pa, tatawag na ko kahit wala silang alam... malay mo makahelp.. hehehehe

[audigy]

MYST: of course you can make pila pa rin d naman nila hinahanap *** IP eh ang hinahanap ng server sa iRC yun nick mo...

ako as long as i dont disconnect..same *** IP ko... minsan 4 days ata akong d nagdisconnect.. same lang.. no dropped connections...

and in fairness sa pldt... for more than a year subscribed to pldt... mga more or less 5 times pa lang ako nadrop ng connection or cannot connect.

i just dont know if this is area dependent

[audigy]

MYST: parang bad experience ka sa pldt hah....

well for me its good naman... not good... the better than good... but not the best i admit...

but sa experience ko... pldt has a good service... not with the tech crew kasi theyre stupid ****... but the internet service... 9 out of ten... one point goes to the poor tech

about dun sa IRC queue problem nyo.... as long as the server does not delete u sa queue for being not present sa channel... your ok... this is from my experience...

[bich]

i thnk one reason could be modem.... or the other pag inde ka nagsurf or download. meaning nakatunganga lang ***... parang may timeout ata kc e.

[audigy]

umm i dnt think so... siguro nga *** modem.. pero about idle time... d rin eh... kasi kahapon habang nagsusurf ako biglang nagdrop...

[bich]

madalas magdrop sakin pag di ko ginagamit

[audigy]

ah ****.. nokia ba modem mo? there are times na tinatamad lang ako ioff... idle *** connection... pag gising ko... connected pa rin naman siya...

anybody here uses a nortel modem???

[fatgrrl_slim]

Oh, so marami palang nakaka-experience ng dropped connection sa PLDT DSL. My friend has been experiencing that, especially during daytime. Asar sya kasi highly dependent sya sa internet day in and day out, being an internet consultant. Since PLDT's customer hotline does not give him decent answers, he thought his phonelines are tapped that's why he's experiencing those problems (he has a case with PLDT kasi).

[audigy]

ewan ko nga ba kung bakit nagdrodrop... depende **** sa area.. kasi ako.. more than 24 hours na ko nakaonline.. d pa rin nagdrop...

[ixi]

Any pldt mydsl users have experienced constant dropping of internet connection?

dahil ang bandwidth ng pldt DSL is shared amongst online users, para kang nasa isang LAN na shared ang internet connection, kung yung isa nagda download ng file, usually, sa kanya ang majority ng bandwidth...




why does pldt constantly drops the connection

common practice yan ng mga ISP, IP address changes everytime you connect, they dont usually assign an IP for every client, IP is selected randomly from the server kaya ganyan

[audigy]

ixi: excuse me? shared? sure? dba cable yun!!??

i dont think its with the ip change.. because there are times that i dont get disconnected for days and no drops... no IP change... my ip only changes if i disconnect and connect again... by now im connected for 48 hours now...

[Myst]

audigy, are you by any chance working for pldt?

[audigy]

nope... does it sound like it... why do u ask

[Bravoexo]

I change the filter if I were you. My mydsl was installed July, 2001. And had lots of noise and dropped off quite a lot back then. A router helped the problem a bit, but the line was so noisy coz the filter was rotting out.... so when my phone line died due to the filter dying, I replaced it and voila.. filtered na talaga.

[audigy]

whats a noisy connection anyways?

the filter is the thng that seperates the voice and the data ryt? anyways... can i just buy a filter then use it to another extension lines besides the line where the modem is connected? u get me?

[Witty]

Originally posted by ixi
dahil ang bandwidth ng pldt DSL is shared amongst online users, para kang nasa isang LAN na shared ang internet connection, kung yung isa nagda download ng file, usually, sa kanya ang majority ng bandwidth...


yep... but i think pldt controls the bandwidth per user... that's why there is a 128Kbps package and 256 Kbps package.

"sa kanya ang majority ng bandwidth"?!?!?!? i doubt it.... 128Kbps package... 12.5Kbps lang max download ko... oh how i wish could hog all the bandwidth with bittorrent :D




common practice yan ng mga ISP, IP address changes everytime you connect, they dont usually assign an IP for every client, IP is selected randomly from the server kaya ganyan

i know.. but the problem is.... my internet connection just drops at a random interval... no human intervention (i don't know at pldt's side hehehe).... i'm okay with the random ip evertime i connect... but random drops!!!! :mad:

[audigy]

really??? nung 128 ka.. 12.5 lang max no? lugi ka nun! ako mga 15...

sana magdrop na lang siya sa madaling araw.. kagabi ng drop ako ng mga 4 in the morning...

[digital_potato]

demmet. 12.5kbps lang? halos doble lang ng dial up. hmmm.. parang lugi nga. tapos parati palang disconnected. i was thinking of going dsl pa naman. yung 128kbps yan ba yung 1,500 a month?

[audigy]

hey guys... sino pa dito ang nakakaexperience ng connection drops???

nung start of the year, i experience pa connection drops... ngyn 5 days na ata akong nakakonek...

[baste]

in short...
their service still sucks!!!

[floreno]

Hey mga pips....yung sa mga umalis sa myDSL....
Tanong ko lang kung anong internet connection nyo ngayon?

[mertzvox]

kahapong nganadroevvee ako ng 9 pm,, ngYON s pa rin ako makagamit ng dsl anu ba pinaka best na sagot...........
ano nanagyari sa dsl ngayon...> dsl nyo ok na ba ?

[mertzvox]

tagal naman ... tsaga kami ngayon sa dial -up.....

[mertzvox]

5:30 pm dsl back 2 normal...ok na ...surf, ragna , download na tau

[Zzz_18]

hassle dsl...my connection is always getting dropped...terrible terrible...

what i do is i log on to the dsl modem/router (the one that came with my package is an smc - galing TW ata), and i run diagnostics to "refresh" the connection...sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

what do you guys do (aside from bugging the people at 173)?

[Witty]

Originally posted by Zzz_18
hassle dsl...my connection is always getting dropped...terrible terrible...

what i do is i log on to the dsl modem/router (the one that came with my package is an smc - galing TW ata), and i run diagnostics to "refresh" the connection...sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

what do you guys do (aside from bugging the people at 173)?

my linux gateway auto-reconnects when the connection drops.

[Mikoid]

I just got the P2500/month 256 k account installed last Monday. It was pretty good -- I was getting about 32k of actual bandwidth. Unfortunately, at 3pm yesterday the account just inexplicably died! Their tech support couldn't pinpoint the problem and had no other explanation than to ask me to reset my settings -- despite the fact that they were working perfectly. So until now I've been back on infuriating dialup! I hope their truck arrives soon!

[abcxyz]

same thing - been getting disconnected quite often this week. this is like my 9th complaint of the same problem past 2 months.

[ixi]

Originally posted by audigy
ixi: excuse me? shared? sure? dba cable yun!!??

i dont think its with the ip change.. because there are times that i dont get disconnected for days and no drops... no IP change... my ip only changes if i disconnect and connect again... by now im connected for 48 hours now...

pareho lang sila ng cable, shared bandwidth :)

[dizzyty]

in my experience, the connection usually drops if you use it heavily, i.e. you're downloading a lot of data at one time. That's why it happens when you play warcraft, but not when you leave it alone. That's why it happens during the daytime since you're probably using it for heavy downloading. Thing is, the more you keep on forcing the issue, meaning waiting for the connection go to online and downloading heavily again, the more PLDT myDSL drops you (for longer intervals now). That's to my experience. Anyway, that's my theory.

[audigy]

i company called me up and said that they were conducting an interview..so i told them to go here in my house...

guess what it's about pldt dsl.. kasi im a sub dati (but im with sky now) kapuputol pa lang nun pldt ko...actually bad timing ata sya...

heres the deal.. they were conduction a marketing research on pldt's so called "new product" which is the plan 1800!!! which will compete with globe 1950 plan...

heres the BEST PART... plan 1800 is 384kbps, unlimited! 1200 pesos cheaper... anyways... again this plan will compete with globe. pero the thing is... eh sa pasig, makati, at san juan lang naman may globe..so dun lang ang competition nila... pldt is enjoying oligopoly with regards that they have the widest coverage among all dsl providers like globe, sky/bayan, greendot, or even eastern. I HAVE NO IDEA kng why nila gagawin to...so sa totoo lang i doubt na gagawin nila... anyways this is just a marketing research

eto pa pala... you ask me now what are they goin to do with the plan 2500 and 300? they will make the 2500 plan 512, and the 300 768!

they are also planning to release a cheaper version of their hour based plan w/c is now the 1500..they will make 990 only with 60hours, and make the speed 256. they also have this VERY ABSURD plan, 990 again but this time it's usage based meaning from the number of megabytes u download, but 384 naman *** speed.... and the worst part it's just 200Mb allotment..ako nga 200megs a day eh.

so guys... any thoughts???

[Pao|o]

sounds good. hope it pushes through. i want to download high definition video in a day.

[markcas]

Well, it makes me bump my head into a wall even more since we can't get PLDT DSL here in our area since we're on a DLC line. Heck we can't get any high-speed internet in our area (even Destiny) despite living right smack in the middle of the city. :(

[audigy]

ay forgot to tell about that... d daw nila alam kung when to...

pero sympre this kind of plan to compete needs careful analysis and planning sa part ng pldt... research lang to by a company that was hired by pldt... im sure this will come out in maybe 3 months time at the most kung totoo nga.. pag more than 3months..wag na tayong umasa....kasi sobrang mura sya eh... pldt will not do this.... just to compete with globe? i dont think so... eh kaunting percentage lang *** globe conpetetion nila eh..3 cities... not to mention the whole of the metro..well d naman ako negative thinker.. pero sympre im hoping also dba? nasa sky ako ngyn pero i can discon naman after 3 months eh... actually nakakait pa nga *** pldt namin eh..d lang namin gamit.. tagal nila kunin *** gamit... pero status nya raw "to be disconnected" na raw.. humanda lang sila kng ibill *** dun... magaaway talaga *** ng pldt...

i also addressed sa interviewers *** POOR technical nila...sa too lang mahal pldt.. kasi sa ibang providers pag may kasamang dsl mura na lang *** voice line... eh sa pldt normal price pa rin eh.. buti pa sa sky/bayan 300 lang *** voice pag may dsl ka.. as well as globe... i also addressed this issue...

I TELL YOU..D NILA GAGAWIN TO..or irerevise nila... ano sa palagay nyo??? THIS IS ONLY A MERKETING RESEARCH... I CAN PUSH THROUGH, MAY IT WONT... THEY JUST WANT TO KNOW THE SIDE OF THE SUBS.

[Pao|o]

i think they pldt will do this for the simple reason that there is a limited number of current subscribers who can afford broadband. as the infrastructure is gradually gets paid pldt would be better able to offer deep discounts.

my only worry is that that the quality of service will drop when they bump up the speed and accept more subscribers. this has happened before and i hope will never again.

dialup sucks when you've been using dsl for so long...

[ginoledesma]

PLDT can charge for what it wants since it is their infrastructure. Whether or not that's "fair" that's up to you. So if PLDT really wants to kill the competition (BOTH broadband and dial-up), they can.

Eastern (http://www.evodsl.com/) has the cheapest plans for residential subscribers right now in some areas. They're charging P1,700 for 256Kbps unlimited access. For P2,000 you get 384Kbps. There's word that performance isn't anything "great" as compared to MyDSL, but its a good start.

Unfortunately for me, I'd like to go to PLDT MyDSL, but I've been waiting for 7 months to get a phone line. Sheesh.

[audigy]

eastern dsl sucks...read other forum like www.pinoyoc.net look for the thread of eastern dsl or evodsl

[audigy]

www.pinoypc.net pala sori guys

[true_steppers]

sana lumaki na rin coverage ng ibang dsl providers at itaas nila speed para mas maging mura na... ang mahal kasi ngayon e

[ron_8]

weird dsl ko ngayon
dati 128 nag upgrade to 256 tapos di na bumalik sa 128 after ng promo
ngayon naging 384 na ata ako im downloading at 45kb/s from my 30kb/s usual download.. anyone else?

[bich]

ano lumalabas sa bill mo?

[ron_8]

ganun parin same as usual, *** 128 kasi talaga plan ko tapos diba may promo nung before december last year naging 256 tapos di na bumalik sa 128
ngayon naman naging 384 na ata, astig to hehe

[azqnow]

may bagong plan *** pldt mydsl

personal Php2500 256kbps
professional Php3000 384kbps

is pldt the smartest choice over bayantel dsl, and zpdee?? those are the only ones available here in our place.. (pag-asa at the back of sm city north edsa

[audigy]

pldt ka na...

im with skydsl now but i still have my pldt connection... nothing compares to pldt.... believe me..take it from me.... im soo in regret why i transferred to sky... though, im glad also that i still have pldt now...

im emailing skydsl about pldt's increase... lets see kng ano balak nila sa buhay nila... babagsak sila seryoso... actually i dnt care... the sooner they get out of the picture, the happier i become... grabe im so bitter with skydsl...

im bitter not because mabagal *** skydsl... but because, i think im not getting what im suppose to get... 384... im only getting a max speed of 326... grabe..layo noh?? tapos they cant explain it...

buti na lang 1999 a month lang sya for 3 months...pero babalik talaga ako sa pldt... after it.... another thing.. buti na lang din... they gave me a 2000 peso rebate for this month... so my connection for this month is practically free... may sukli pa kong piso... HAHAHA