Moderator's Announcements

[KuyaDanny]

Welcome to our new forum, a mini-marketplace where you can buy, sell, or trade.

Ads were previously a part of Business and Careers, and many of you are already familiar with our advertising rules. I'd like to make some reminders for everyone, so that our little trading post here doesn't get too confusing and gives maximum benefit to everyone.

1 We allow ads which relate only to legal commerce (buying, selling, asking, giving, or exchanging). We do not allow ads for illegal activities, such as buying and selling prohibited drugs, kidnap and ransom, hitmen for hire, prostitution, trafficking of minors, and similar activities. We reserve the right to delete ads for illegal activities.

"Illegal" means against the laws of the Republic of the Philippines.

2 Buyers and Sellers Beware - this is a free marketplace. PEx does not charge a fee or commission from any commercial activities which may arise from advertising in this forum. We do not screen sellers for legitimacy or good business practices, and we do not screen buyers for their ability to pay. If you wish to use the services of this forum, you do so at your own risk.

3 All threads will be locked after remaining inactive (no new posts) for at least 90 days. This is to make sure all information on the front page is current.

4 Since this forum is devoted solely to ads, we are no longer providing the "one free bump" service to advertisers. Each advertiser is responsible for his ad. If you want to remind people of your opportunity after your ad has left Page 1, bump it up. We will no longer do this for you.

And the [Ad] prefix on the title, which we suggested before and added to any title which needed it, is now redundant and no longer required or suggested.

[KuyaDanny]

Write a descriptive title

These are examples of ordinary titles:

Car for Sale
Looking for a Job
Nokia 6150

And these are examples of descriptive titles for the same ads:

For Sale Red 1998 BMW 316i P350T negotiable
Fresh UST ECE Graduate & Board Placer looking for Telecom Job
Wanted to Buy Used Nokia 6150 less than 1 yr old

Put details in your titles that will make busy people want to check out your posting.


Leave Contact Information

Make sure that any interested people who wish to respond have a way to reach you easily. Leave an email address (if you wish, use vB code to hyperlink to your email), telephone number, fax, or pager.

A bit of advice, though. This forum is public and visible around the world. Displaying your email address is potentially an invitation to spammers. You may want to use an alternate email address to keep your main mailbox clean.


Activate the Email Notification Feature

If you turn this on, you'll be alerted when someone responds to your ad.


Put a Picture of What You're Selling

If you're selling a house, a car, a pet, or some other piece of merchandise with unique features, pictures sometimes speak volumes. Use the vB code image embedding commands for this purpose.


Do not bury your ad in someone else's ad

This is a sure-fire way of getting forgotten. Do you really want to let people know you're selling your computer by replying to someone who wanted to sell his car? Get maximum visibility and attention by starting your own topic. It's not that hard.

[KuyaDanny]

Please join me in welcoming our new moderator Zen, of Small Talk and Personals fame.

She's a lot cuter than me. ;)

[Zen]

:*)

[uptowngirl]

:lol:@Kuya Danny

[tRiStAn]

Naku, nag-blush pa raw! :D Totoo naman a! (ahem, may regalo na ako nito)

[wAgKaNgMaKuLiT]

:lol:

[Zen]

I may be cuter, but KuyaD's definitely richer. :D

Dapat hirit ito ni The Rock but since I don't see him posting here... :angel:

[KuyaDanny]

Bumping to the top, so our new visitors can read the announcements.

[Zen]

Keeping this on top.

[Cahdreis]

A little help for the moderators for keeping this on top! :)

[Beans]

Keeping this on top.

Hahahha... puro para lang bumalik sa taas ang messages

[Zen]

Uh, yeah Beans, that's the point. :D

[KuyaDanny]

Please read and understand the announcements above, before posting ads in this forum.

[Zen]

Bump! :)

[HoNeY_B]

hey there... i was just wondering.. kase i jut saw your new post welcomming Zen, the new moderator... anyways, how do you become a moderator anyway??? thanks :smokin:

[Zen]

HoNeY_B, I was already a moderator in another forum (Small Talk, the then Personals forum) when Classifieds was reborn, so I was also put here to help KuyaDanny. :) Now, regarding your question, please check out this thread: pano ba maging moderator???? (http://pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=15572) ;)

[mauigurl]

welcome ZEN! keeping this on top na rin..hehe...gusto ko talaga dito kse ka-aliw *** mga binebenta ng mga tao at good bargains *** iba... :D

:angel:

[KuyaDanny]

Bumping to the top.

Welcome to all new members. To make your ads more effective for everyone, kindly observe the suggestions above.

Thank you.

[NoisyCricket]

KD, I'm the LAST person in the world to argue with you, but I have a question regarding my Looking for a 5.3cm Yellow Gold Eternity Engagement Ring (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=43932) thread which was moved to Travel and Lifestyle.

So I read the guidelines you posted for the Classifieds forum. Rule # 1 states that:

1 We allow ads which relate only to legal commerce (buying, selling, asking, giving, or exchanging). We do not allow ads for illegal activities, such as buying and selling prohibited drugs, kidnap and ransom, hitmen for hire, prostitution, trafficking of minors, and similar activities. We reserve the right to delete ads for illegal activities.

"Illegal" means against the laws of the Republic of the Philippines.

My argument that my thread should be returned to the Classifieds for maximized visibility then would be that:

1. I am trying to buy a ring; ergo I am asking if any PExer is an alajera or knows of an alajera, I would like to hear from them from this Forum at PEx.

2. Last time I looked, wanting to buy an engagement ring wasn't considered an "illegal activity" :D , and is not against the laws of the Republic of the Philippines.

Secondly, for your second set of guidelines, "Write a descriptive title", you say that:

Car for Sale
Looking for a Job
Nokia 6150

Meaning "Looking for a Job" is permissible (but should be improved), but "Looking for a 5.3cm Yellow Gold Eternity Engagement Ring " is not? I'm confused.

If I put "Looking for a ring", then maybe you would have cause to have me edit my thread, but as it is, my thread is very specific :)

It's looking for an Engagement Ring with three distinct qualifications:

1. It's yellow gold.
2. It's 5.3 cm, and
3. It's an Eternity Band.

You can't get anymore specific than that :)

So I don't understand why you say my thread is not an ad. :( It's practically lost in "Travel and Lifestyle" :(

It is an ad, isn't it?

Also, take note of the thread, "I'll buy Nikos Kazantzakis' The Last Temptation of Christ" which is in the Classifieds. Is this an ad?

If so, should I just restructure my thread to say "I'll buy a 5.3cm Yellow Gold Eternity Engagement Ring" ?

Another thread reads "Looking 4 Prepaid Cell card suppliers" which is permissible.. whereas my thread, "Looking for a 5.3cm Yellow Gold Eternity Engagement Ring" is not. :(

For my last argument, I would like to suggest that whether you are a buyer or seller, all business and commerce threads where a product, good, or service is exchanged from one PExer to another, should be placed here in the Classifieds forum to save time and trouble. This is where people go to find stuff any way, so it's more convenient to have all the "Wanted" ads here, all in one place, rather than having to think first which forum to go to, to find a particular item.

If you really think about it, what does "Looking for a 5.3cm Yellow Gold Eternity Engagement Ring" have to do with Travel? :confused: Yes, you have to travel to the mall, hotel, or the alajera's house, but you know.. I think when we say "Travel" we mean "Vacation". Engagement Rings and Vacations are two completely different things, I would say, right? IMHO, it doesn't go with "Lifestyle" much either. Buying an engagement ring is more of a one time purchase than a lifestyle... Of course this is just my opinion. :)

Anyway, I hope my arguments made some sense to you. I honestly don't understand why my thread was transferred, but I know that there was a good reason for it. I just don't understand what the good reason was :) , and I will need your enlightened guidance on this matter :)

Yours Truly,

Noisy Cricket

[EricGozar]

Bump!

[KuyaDanny]

In other forums in this website, you will see topics started by people looking for places to buy cheap computer parts, wanting to sign up with a good ISP, or choosing a good restaurant with a cozy atmosphere where one can have lunch at reasonable prices. The replies typically consist of suggestions and recommendations. I call these types of topics "referral threads", for want of a better term.

The originators are all prospective buyers, just like you, yet those topics remain outside Classifieds. If I had my way, they would all be moved to Classifieds.

But I don't always have my way. There are good reasons referral threads remain where they are. Many of those forums predate Classifieds, and the members have gotten comfortable seeing these topics there for the longest time. Further, many of those referral threads benefit from the inputs of moderators and members who are familiar with the subject matter.

So I have had to create my own working definition of what constitutes an ad in Classifieds, and what distinguishes an ad from a referral thread. So far, what I use is this: if the discussion is leading towards a transaction between PExers, it is an ad. If the discussion is leading towards a transaction with an entity outside of PEX, it is a referral thread. Is my definition etched in stone? Of course not. I am glad this incident, and your arguments, have come forward, so we can consider if anything we do can be improved.

Notice that I waited for a few replies before moving your topic. Only when it became clear to me that no PExer was coming forward to actually sell you a ring did I decide that your topic was a referral thread. I used my definition and moved it.

As to the choice of Travel and Lifestyle, I consulted with another moderator, who shall remain nameless. This moderator is a she, and in my opinion, could use a few more pounds on her very slight frame. I'm giving no more clues. ;) We decided at that time that Travel and Lifestyle was the most appropriate place for your thread.

Obviously your objective in creating the post was to accumulate suggestions leading to the successful purchase of a ring for the lucky lady. Fair enough. If you feel that Classifieds is the best place for such a posting, I'm willing to listen. As I said in another thread, we'll bring your topic back.

In the future, I shall use this experience to remind myself to check if moving a referral thread to another forum does more harm than good - good being defined as page views, useful replies, and ultimately a commercial transaction, either with a PExer, or a third party. I apologize if this incident has upset your schedule or adversely affected your plans in any way. We will do better next time.

[NoisyCricket]

:lol: This moderator is a she, and in my opinion, could use a few more pounds on her very slight frame. Sounds really familiar, KD!

Actually, the reason why I wrote that long post was just to "speak my mind" on a topic that could been seen from different perspectives.

Another, was because actually, it would have been a precedent for the next topic I wanted to post in Classifieds that was more or less what you would describe as a "Referral Ad" . It was going to be a thread entitled, "Calling all bankers, does your bank have foreclosed properties you want to sell? Commission is yours!" or some cheezy title like that.

Benefits from posting it in the Classifieds:

1. It's (by my definition, anyway) a "Wanted: " ad. If there is a PExer who is in the banking biz, and his or her bank just happens to have an attractive foreclosed property, from which, he stands to get a substantial commission without adding on to the cost, it becomes a WIN-WIN situation :)

He/she gets to sell a foreclosed property, the bank gets its money back from the loan against it, he or she personally gets the commission from the sale, and I get my house :)

I used to work in a bank before and I know there were many ways to earn money selling foreclosed properties if one just knew who to sell them to. Another strong reason I feel I want to post that ad is that the position I worked as in the bank paid me really really really low. (Try P7,000 gross - take home? -> P4,000 after tax, deductions, and all). (And that was Pay Grade 5. PG1 was like P4,000 gross..)

So I honestly believe that

2. it would help someone out there if they knew of a foreclosed property that was still good :)

From the first couple of posts in the engagement ring topic, perhaps it started off as a "referral thread", but who's to say in the future that someone wouldn't come along and turn it into a direct PExer to PExer ad?

Even if I myself already have an engagement ring, it could generate new business for the PExer-alajera/o.

And also important, PExers who are just approaching this stage (as I am now), will be able to learn from the thread.

Besides, :) will it take up much space on the forum? The threads don't move that fast, and God knows we could use more traffic at the Classifieds.

So how about, KD? Keep it there to attract more sellers / learners? :)

(And can I post my thread about Foreclosed properties?)

Truly Yours,

Noisy Cricket

[KuyaDanny]

Noisy Cricket, you can post your thread about Foreclosed Properties.

[KuyaDanny]

Occasionally I may post a humorous comment about selected ads in this forum. You may have seen this in the c-o-c-k-e-r spaniel and Playboy limited edition threads.

For those who have not met me, I must say this is a symptom of my being human and has nothing to do with the quality or content of your ads. I request you to take these bits of humor for what they are - an attempt to lighten up our day - and nothing more than that.

I apologize beforehand for any consequences. I mean no offense.

[KuyaDanny]

Smuggled Goods

Trading in smuggled goods deprives our government of revenue which it can use to conduct its business. Please keep this in mind the next time you feel like complaining about how ineffective our government is. You could be part of the reason.

[KuyaDanny]

Have you done business as a result of PEx Classifieds? Share your experiences and let us know of those exemplary PExers who make their customers happy. Post your views in this thread:

Feedback on PEx sellers. (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=68638)

[KuyaDanny]

Information buyers often ask about , but sellers often forget to mention

1) Why are you selling the item? (Usually applicable to second hand items)
2) Is there a warranty? (Usually applicable to brand new and slightly used items)
3) What is the price of that item in stores?
4) What condition is the item in?
5) Where are the goods now? Can we inspect them?
6) Do you deliver? Is there an extra charge for delivery?
7) How do I pay you? Do you accept checks or credit cards?
8) How can I contact you? (Very Important)
9) For motor vehicles - a) last digit of plate number; b) color; c) model year; d) mileage

If your ad answers these questions even before they are asked, you can help save time for everybody.

[KuyaDanny]

Posting your Email Addresses

You are reminded that this website is visible to anybody, anywhere, who has access to the internet. We do not control who views our site. By posting your email addresses for everyone to see, you run the risk of people using your address for not-so-desirable purposes such as spam.

Please be careful.

[KuyaDanny]

Deleting Threads in this Forum

Threads posted in this forum may be deleted for any of the following reasons:

1) The transaction is illegal.
2) The thread is a duplicate of another.
3) The information is wrong and there are no replies yet.

No other reasons for deletion will be accepted. If the item you are selling or buying has been sold or bought, or you do not wish to continue with your transaction, the remedy is to have your thread closed. We prefer to keep all threads and posts available, even if they are no longer active, for future reference.

If you want to have a thread closed, send me email or PM. There is no need to state a reason.

[septerra]

just an observation. try to click on the classifies option in the newly improved front page... kasi when I click it, I go directly to career climbs not classifieds. thanks

[KuyaDanny]

Thanks. Mikoid will fix that in 2002. ;)

[Swiftsure]

Just a question: how can I prevent people from posting their own ads in my ad? Should I tell them off myself, or should I leave that to you folks? :)

Thanks! Have a happy and prosperous new year!

[KuyaDanny]

Send me a PM or email and I will erase their ads.

[Alt+Ctrl+Del]

Can I post something like, I'm-looking-for-this-product thread?

[KuyaDanny]

Depends.

If you expect that the PExers will sell you the product you are looking for, YES.

If you are looking for suggestions or recommendations on a product that is available in stores, other forums specific to the product might be more appropriate.

[marielle]

Bossing, is business fraud sufficient ground for banning a PExer? :|
Like halimbawa, nagkaroon kayo ng bilihan with an ad the
seller posted here on PEx tapos niloko ka lang pala?

[KuyaDanny]

No, it is not. At least not yet.

In the meantime, if you care enough about other PExers to keep them from suffering the same fate, write about your experience in the Feedback on PEx Sellers thread.

[GF2bluz]

What about those obscenely inane get rich quick scams eheste schemes that have inundated the forums? Other forums have explicitly banned these types of posts if not of the mathematical absurdity or its moral ineptitude but more of the forum noise it generates.

I'm one to believe that the classifieds are more for the exchange of goods and services and not sheer generation of wealth out of referrals.

The sad thing is that there are a lot of people lazy, desperate, and idiotic enough to buy into this.

[KuyaDanny]

There is a very informative thread in The Working Filipino about frauds, swindlers, and similar creatures, and how to pot or avoid them:

May nanloko na ba sa inyo? (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107667)

[R0G3R]

page starter!!!

and hopefully thread closer!!!

binuksan ulet ni kuya danny yung thread, tagal nang nakasara to, everyday i go to the forum this the only closed thread on the first page...

im parta history...

mwahahahaha!!!

:deal:

[KuyaDanny]

I am reposting parts of my original announcement for the benefit of those who are too busy to check Page 1 of this thread:


1 We allow ads which relate only to legal commerce (buying, selling, asking, giving, or exchanging). We do not allow ads for illegal activities, such as buying and selling prohibited drugs, kidnap and ransom, hitmen for hire, prostitution, trafficking of minors, and similar activities. We reserve the right to delete ads for illegal activities.

"Illegal" means against the laws of the Republic of the Philippines.

2 Buyers and Sellers Beware - this is a free marketplace. PEx does not charge a fee or commission from any commercial activities which may arise from advertising in this forum. We do not screen sellers for legitimacy or good business practices, and we do not screen buyers for their ability to pay. If you wish to use the services of this forum, you do so at your own risk.

3 All threads will be locked after remaining inactive (no new posts) for at least 90 days. This is to make sure all information on the front page is current.

4 Since this forum is devoted solely to ads, we are no longer providing the "one free bump" service to advertisers. Each advertiser is responsible for his ad. If you want to remind people of your opportunity after your ad has left Page 1, bump it up. We will no longer do this for you.

[KuyaDanny]

I am reposting another announcement made earlier:


Suggestions - how to post good classified ads

Write a descriptive title

These are examples of ordinary titles:

Car for Sale
Looking for a Job
Nokia 6150

And these are examples of descriptive titles for the same ads:

For Sale Red 1998 BMW 316i P350T negotiable
Fresh UST ECE Graduate & Board Placer looking for Telecom Job
Wanted to Buy Used Nokia 6150 less than 1 yr old

Put details in your titles that will make busy people want to check out your posting.


Leave Contact Information

Make sure that any interested people who wish to respond have a way to reach you easily. Leave an email address (if you wish, use vB code to hyperlink to your email), telephone number, fax, or pager.

A bit of advice, though. This forum is public and visible around the world. Displaying your email address is potentially an invitation to spammers. You may want to use an alternate email address to keep your main mailbox clean.


Activate the Email Notification Feature

If you turn this on, you'll be alerted when someone responds to your ad.

Note: Email notification is no longer available. Another feature which serves a similar purpose is Track this Thread. Use this instead.


Put a Picture of What You're Selling

If you're selling a house, a car, a pet, or some other piece of merchandise with unique features, pictures sometimes speak volumes. Use the vB code image embedding commands for this purpose.

Note: I understand that it is a little more difficult now since we no longer allow attachments. However, if a picture is available and is properly hosted, incorporating it in your ad is still highly encouraged.


Do not bury your ad in someone else's ad

This is a sure-fire way of getting forgotten. Do you really want to let people know you're selling your computer by replying to someone who wanted to sell his car? Get maximum visibility and attention by starting your own topic. It's not that hard.

Note: This practice is also rude. You are not rude people, are you? Don't do it.

[VINCEsanity]

check ur PM kuya danny :) thnx

[RaP]

VINCEsanity just posted his on ad on my thread (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=121989)

make ya own thread sir

[willie_carol]

i'm new here. just want to ask how to bump my ad up . thanks !

[Jeffreyw]

Kuya Danny is it ok if i post our classified ads site here?

[KuyaDanny]

Create a thread for your site, the same way you would create a thread selling something. Don't post in this thread - it is for moderator's announcements, questions, and answers.

[Jeffreyw]

Originally posted by KuyaDanny
Create a thread for your site, the same way you would create a thread selling something. Don't post in this thread - it is for moderator's announcements, questions, and answers.

What i meant about here is here on the Classified Ads Section. Thanks.

[keiko]

hello. can you please help me wid my problem.. i don't understand y everytime i post a topic, wen i go back to check, it's not here anymore. i posted 4 times already and it's always missing. i got a notification in my email dat i got a reply from my thread but when i went to the link it says invalid. wats up? i don't want people to think that i'm not a serious seller. can somebody pls help. tnx a lot

[KuyaDanny]

You are attempting to sell pirated video - illegal in this country and not allowed on PEx.

[KuyaDanny]

I am not allowing any Meteor Garden (I, II, subtitled, VCD, DVD or whatever) here. Sorry.

Find another place to buy or sell this video.

[gUy^]

bat nawala?

[poshgummy]

What happened? I am getting a deal with someone but suddenly my thread was gone:(

[KuyaDanny]

We were rearranging this forum into five subforums - the same ones we had before the crash. We're done now, so I hope you can find the threads you were looking for.

[KuyaDanny]

In case you hadn't noticed, we have restored the five subforums which existed here before the crash. I hope you can respect this forum enough to put your ads in the right place.

You may NOT post ads in the main forum anymore. The main forum is for admin-type threads such as this one.

Thank you.

[haaynaku]

Hello, where are the old posts? Wala naman sa archives?

[KuyaDanny]

All posts made from February to May 2003 have been lost in the crash. :(

[aajao]

KD, saan po ba yung threads about Franchising? do we have a specific sub-forum for those? hindi kase gumagana ang searching powers ko ngayon eh. :looking:

[KuyaDanny]

Announcement

Buy, Sell, and Swap is no more. We have broken it up into four parts, as you can see. Please post in the appropriate forum.

We will not move misposted threads to their correct subforums. Instead, we will move them to the Archive where no one can reply to them. So think before you post, and help create an orderly and useful community.

We are soliciting ideas for catchy names for the Classifieds subforums (except Looking Good, Feeling Good). If you have any to share, let me know and I shall consider.

Thank you.

[KuyaDanny]

Reservations

A suggestion to sellers:

Some buyers may ask you to "reserve" goods for them. It is your choice, as a seller, to agree or refuse the request.

We remind you that PEx does not vouch for the integrity of any of the buyers (or sellers) who do business in these forums. Some members have asked sellers to reserve goods for them, only to forget about the transaction or deny ever making the request. The seller ends up losing opportunities to make a sale.

If you decide to reserve merchandise in favor of a buyer, we suggest you place a time limit on the reservation. If the buyer does not close the purchase within the time limit, you are free to offer the goods to other people.

So instead of saying:

"Nokia 6610 reserved for KuyaDanny", say this:

"Nokia 6610 reserved for KuyaDanny until 12:00 noon, Friday."

[KuyaDanny]

The Ads & Announcements subforum is for noncommercial advertising, such as event notices, website notices, press releases, and personal ads. It is not for ads which belong elsewhere in the Classifieds forum.

Threads created in Ads & Announcements which don't belong there will be tossed to the Archive, and not their proper places.

[chelm]

to moderators

this maybe a little off topic.question *** po mga kuya at ate *** isang account ko kc(elmo37) hindi n mkapag-post.naalala ko kc pogkatapos ko mgreply sa isang topic sa classifieds,nakatihan kong i change *** email address ko.after that ng-log out n ako.then the next morning pagbukas ko sa PEX di na ako mkareply or mkapag-post.ano po ba nangyari sa account ko?na-ban po ba ako?kung na-ban nga ako bat wala man lang warning.thanks pa pm n *** din po ng sagot.salamats. :bop:

[hayjayannson]

I have a prepaid cards that gives access to adult sites in the web. Is it ok if i post it here for sale? I have no plans on selling it to minors...

[KuyaDanny]

To handle increased ad volume we have just created Mobile Phones and Computers subforums, and will be moving the appropriate threads there. Please create your new threads in the correct subforums from now on. Thank you.

[KuyaDanny]

hayjayannson, we will not stop you.

[KuyaDanny]

We have created four new subforums because of increased ad volume:

Mobile Phones (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=239) - formerly housed in Consumer Electronics
Computers (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=240) - formerly housed in Consumer Electronics
Cars and Car Accessories (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=241) - formerly housed in Miscellaneous
Real Estate (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=242) - formerly housed in Miscellaneous

Existing threads in the old subforums will be moved shortly. Please post new threads in their correct places. Posting the same ad in more than one subforum is spamming and not allowed without our permission.

Thank you.

[KuyaDanny]

You might want to BOOKMARK the ad threads you create here. This makes it easier for you to check for replies, even if the thread is moved to another subforum or buried by newer threads.