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saintv3
Oct 16, 2000, 12:49 AM
Doc Ira, question for u. For example, na de-viginize ang isang babae, luluwag ba ang vagina niya or does it return to its original form? Are there any changes when na de-virginize ang babe besides sa masakit sa first time? Just curious. Lumuwag ba yun kahit konti bec. what I heard is that it only loosens when u get pregnant. Is that true? Tks.

Ira
Oct 16, 2000, 01:31 AM
The size of a woman's vaginal canal has the ability to expand and contract, since it's made up of muscles. Being devirginized, or even having multiple sexual partners for that matter, will not mean that the vagina will become permanently 'looser' than how it was before she has had sex. It may get a little wider permanently after giving birth due to muscle damage from overstretching.

Glock
Oct 16, 2000, 03:12 AM
Being devirginized, or even having multiple sexual partners for that matter, will not mean that the vagina will become permanently 'looser' than how it was before she has had sex


Ira, I have magazines that show otherwise. Howcome?

kahumbu
Oct 16, 2000, 04:19 AM
I think the operative term in Ira's response is 'permanently 'looser''. The vaginal canal's 'tightness' is mainly a function of the pubococcygeal muscles (the PCs). As females grow older or have sexual relations, the PC muscle tone decreases, and so husbands/partners notice a sense of 'looseness' in their partner's vagina.

Exercises can be done to tone the PCs - the Kegel exercises. The PCs are also the muscles that control the flow of urination. Isolating and contracting these muscles will tone them up. Contract the PCs and hold it as long as possible. Try to do this for one hour every four hours. Or, you can contract them 50 times as fast as you can. Repeat every four hours. And you can do this while in the office/school/etc.

Females who have given birth can also benefit from this exercise, but they will never get their original 'vaginal size'.

Males can also benefit from this. It 'strengthens' the ability to control ejaculation.

Kaya ako...one..two..three..hehehe :smokin:

saintv3
Oct 16, 2000, 10:33 PM
How about women who are saying that it is only painful in the beginning or first time? Is that bec. of the hymen? Can't it regenerate back? For instance, somebody penetrated the vagina, is it really true that there is no more pain on the second time they do it?

Ira
Oct 17, 2000, 01:50 AM
It can still be painful for women even after the first time, say for example, when the woman is still "dry" and the male penetrates too early. The hymen does not regenerate back, so after the first time, if the male arouses the woman enough, there won't be any pain.

Jęb
Oct 17, 2000, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by saintv3
How about women who are saying that it is only painful in the beginning or first time?

my once-girlfriend said she never did it before we actually did (hey wait it's not my fault!) and when we did, it didnt seem like she went through any kind of pain. i knew she was a virgin nga, so i was really really careful and deliberate and slow. what do you think happened? i thought she really must have had high pain threshold. or i was too careful.

Ira
Oct 17, 2000, 10:08 PM
Possible scenarios: a.) She was sufficiently aroused and lubricated enough by you not to feel the pain, b.) The hymen has already been torn in the past thru non-sexual activity (e.g. horseback riding, gymnastics, ballet, etc.), or c.) She has a high pain threshhold.

Jęb
Oct 18, 2000, 12:19 AM
hmm. mustve been A.
:D

saintv3
Oct 18, 2000, 01:11 AM
Doc Ira, when the hymen is lost already, will she still have the same painful experience as before? Or is the pain experience different when a guy penetrates the vagina too early (meaning not yet lubricated) from the first time experience when she lost her virginity? How different is the pain between those situations?

saintv3
Oct 18, 2000, 01:14 AM
Continuation from the above question. Will a woman still experience the same feeling sometime in her life or after loosing the hymen, wala ng sakit katulad noong una? Tks Doc. Ira. Appreciate it!

saintv3
Oct 18, 2000, 01:36 AM
Doc Ira, sorry so many questions r popping outta' my mind, but can u tell me how painful is the first time experience for women? Can u make a comparison. I ask somebody, she said it is more painful than getting yourself burn. Is that true. So, why would the heck they put themselves in that situation if they heard from others experience that it is so painful? I know one reason is curiosity...is there anything else?

Jęb
Oct 18, 2000, 02:10 AM
erm-- procreation?

kahumbu
Oct 18, 2000, 02:15 AM
Pain during the first time can be due to various factors, like:
a) tightness of the canal. Since, theoretically, nothing has yet penetrated the vagina, it would be tight.
b) lubrication. If not well-lubricated, the friction will cause pain, sometimes even small lacerations.
c) tension. Most first-timers will be tense during the first time, and so, the muscles around the vagina will tense up and it will be 'tighter'.

The hymen does not really contribute much to the pain, however, its 'breakage' explains most of the 'first-time' bleeding.

The degree of the 'first-time' pain differs from woman to woman. Some say its painful. Some say its pleasurable. Some say it was just a mild discomfort at first.

As for the reasons to do it: love, lust, to get it over and done with, peer-pressure, etc. How old are you, saint?

:smokin:

Ira
Oct 18, 2000, 11:12 AM
The level of pain during a female's first sexual experience cannot be generalized, because it varies from woman to woman. The pain is usually described as a pinch or a sharp pull. Some may feel extreme pain because they weren't ready yet for penetration and/or they were tense, some may not feel any pain at all because their partner was skilled in arousing them and relaxing them. But tearing of the hymen doesn't cause pain.

~WaLaNg_ImIk~
Oct 18, 2000, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by saintv3
Can u make a comparison.

Somebody here says 'You feel something inside you slowly being torn.'

When a guy tries to get it in for the first time to a virgin, she can actually feel the force. Yung tissue {or muscle} expands. For her, it's very painful since it's the first time that something big is inserted to her.

b_yatch
Oct 18, 2000, 09:26 PM
Somebody here says 'You feel something inside you slowly being torn.'

When a guy tries to get it in for the first time to a virgin, she can actually feel the force. Yung tissue {or muscle} expands. For her, it's very painful since it's the first time that something big is inserted to her. [/QUOTE]


i can still feel the pain even if ive done it..

saintv3
Oct 19, 2000, 01:21 AM
I'm 20 years old, why? So, Doc Ira, your saying that even if the female has even multiple partners when doing it such as prostitutes, their vagina gets back to its orginal form? So, why do my friends tell me that it is not as tight as before? How could you explain that to me? Is there anyway to regain the tighteness back for example, not doing it for 3 years or so. Tks.

Ira
Oct 20, 2000, 12:02 AM
If you don't use it often and you haven't given birth vaginally, it's going to go back to its original form after some time.

saintv3
Oct 20, 2000, 11:30 PM
Thanks =)