[MERGED] Hypertension (High Blood Pressure) & Hypotension (Low Blood Pressure)

[chick-boy]

how would you know if you are highblood... what are the symptoms? i haven't had my blood pressure checked yet... kapag maskit ba ang batok is a sign of highblood?
thanks!

[Ira]

There's really no specific sign that can indicate that you are hypertensive. Mild to moderate hypertension is usually associated with normal health for many years. Vague symptoms include pulsating headaches sa batok, occuring early in the morning and subsiding during the day; however, any type of headache may occur. Others include excessive sleepiness, confusion, and visual disturbances, but these are only seen in what is termed "accelerated hypertension", and is relatively rare. The only way to know whether you're hypertensive or not is to have your blood pressure checked daily.

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[batang uliran]

The majority of patients who are hypertensive (high blood) have no symptoms or complaints. In cases where the BP is very elevated, they may experience things like headaches, neck aches, blurring of vision, and in cases of very high BP spikes (like 240/120) things such as chest pain, heart failure, kidney damage, and strokes may happen.

As Ira mentioned, hypertension is usually diagnosed by routine BP measurement. A single measurement is not sufficient to make the diagnosis of hypertension. Instead, the BP has to be consistently elevated consistently in several measurements done at least 2 weeks apart.

[chick-boy]

thanks for your response, i appreciate it!
well... i think i've gotta have my BP checked then to be sure... :)

[usp92]

Someone told me that when you feel a certain rush of blood up the back of your neck, this is a symptom of high blood pressure. Is this true? My job entails dealing with a lot of stress - - but I don't know if this could be the cause, because I only started feeling this last week when I had to work with a very difficult client.

I play badminton at least once a week, and climb the stairs of the building where I live at least once a day (ranging from 15-27 floors a day, depending on my energy level), and mountain bike once every two weeks. Would this be bad or be contributory to what I have felt recently?

Should I be eating or not eating a particular type of food? Thanks for any info in advance.

[Ira]

Firstly, blood rushing up the back of your neck is not pathognomonic of hypertension. Occassionally, some hypertensives complain of pounding headaches on the back of the head (batok, in Filipino), but this does NOT hold true in a lot of cases, and pain in that location could also signify stress headaches (as is often the case). The only way to know if you are hypertensive or not is to have your BP checked about 2x a day for a week, around the same times (example, every 8am and 3 pm for 1 week). If your BP is higher than 140/90, you may need to see a cardiologist for further management.

Mild to moderate hypertension is usually associated with normal health and well-being for many years. The only time symptoms appear is, ironically, when patients learn they have "high blood pressure". However, not all hypertension cases necessarily needs drug therapy. Non-drug approaches which proved of modest value in treating and preventing high blood pressure include weight reduction, reduced alcohol and cigarette consumption, and in some patients, reduced salt intake. Increased activity levels in previously sedentary people may lower BP, but strenuous exercises on already active individuals may have less benefit. Since you're a professional (based on what you mentioned in your previous post in other forums), you have a more sedentary lifestyle,-- so your exercises would actually benefit you. Just continue with them. Stress reduction is of unclear value. Unfortunately, genetic factors also play an important role. Children with at least one parent with hypertension tend to have higher BPs. So just have your BP regularly checked if you're worried about "high blood", and don't listen to old wives' tales. :)

[usp92]

Thanks a lot :) Next time you need legal advice let me know, a'la X-deal. Salamt ulit.

[Ira]

Now that you mentioned it...how about getting me a little of the estate of that dead guy who owned DHL? I could sure use a few hundred million dollars... ;)

No problem. Glad to have helped.

[usp92]

You mean Larry Hillblom? I guess the easiest way is to show that you were one of his "constant dates". Better if you have a mestizo-loking kid. I hear he liked the darker more morena Pinays. If you fit the bill, I'd be glad to help! ;)

[Calypso]

I know I'm being silly, BUT... {Caution: Narration LONG!}

DOC! I just had my physical exam yesterday, and the very first 'test' I took was having my blood sample taken. The nurse tightened my right arm with a rubber thingy, and she asked my to make a ball out of my fist. So I did. But just before she was going to ***** me with the needle, she changed her mind and asked me to extend my left arm instead. She mumbled something about my right arm not being a good idea (?). So she did the same thing on my left arm. This time, she inserted the needle to the inside of my elbow. I looked away, so I didn't have to watch my blood being sucked out. But then the nurse kept saying 'sh*t' and showing signs of agitation. I asked her what was wrong, and she said that my blood wasn't flowing (pwede ba naman yon?!?!?)!! After a few more cuss words, she took the serum out and asked me to extend my right arm (again) instead.

I asked her what was wrong, so I'd understand what was happening, and all she said was, "Kailangan ma-tighten ang rubber" or something. So the same procedure was done to my right inner-elbow and she pricked me with the needle again. She kept asking if it was getting painful, and while I have a high tolerance for pain, it DID get really painful after about two minutes. Ang tagal! She continued saying short words that got me worried. When I pressed her to tell me what was wrong, she said that I must have LOW BLOOD PRESSURE because my blood wouldn't flow properly to fill the injection. True enough, it was only half-filled, unlike the other blood samples I saw that were full!

Anyway, when I went to the blood pressure test, I found out that my blood pressure is 100/60. I asked if this was normal, and the woman said that it was. So what was the deal about my blood flow? Was the nurse just inept, or is something wrong with me?

ALSO, what's kinda bothering me is that back in 2nd year HS, my blood pressure was 120/80. Then in 1st yr college, it was 110/70. Now that I just graduated, it's down to 100/60. What will it be in another 2 years? In another 6? Yipes!! I know I'm still within the bounds of normalcy, and that I'm ok as long as my blood pressure fluctuates within the normal, but will I have to eat lots of cholesterol to make sure it doesn't get any LOWER?!?

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[Ira]

I think the nurse just didn't do it right. Don't worry about the blood flow. Unless you have active bleeding somewhere and you're pale, you aren't lacking blood. Your BP is normal. What she told you was just an excuse for a very poor blood extraction technique. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif Most probably, she didn't torniquet you well, or just hit the sides of the veins, so she couldn't get blood easily. Tell her to practice a little more. http://www.pinoyexchange.com/lol.gif

As for your blood pressure, BP fluctuates minute by minute, and is highly dependent on stress, time of the day, your position, temperature, etc. While your BP during the blood extraction is 100/60, it most probably isn't now. Plus, a lot of times, the sphygmomanometer isn't really accurate anymore. Don't worry too much about your BP, either. As I've said, BP really fluctuates, and as long as yours keeps within the normal limits, fluctuations from 90/60 to 140/90 isn't anything to get worried about. About the cholesterol comment---eating cholesterol-laden food is NOT a good method for raising your BP, and never will be. :D Relax. Your BP's just fine, and don't worry about the fluctuations.

[batang uliran]

My sympathies. It sounds like you got stuck with an inept nurse. I personally would have demanded someone else with more experience draw blood after a couple of failed attempts. Those sticks ARE painful.

[Calypso]

Gee, thanks Doc IRA and batang uliran! I really do feel relieved. I mean, I was so sure that it was the nurse who had the problem (or ineptitude, rather), but y'know, just wanting clean away those doubts. And oh yeah, I'll [try to] stay away from cholesterol! hehe...

[drakesnake]

My dad is a chronic hypertensive patient and i want to give him a monitored but safe exercises as welll as diet he is 40 years old and has a BP of 140/90 what shall i do? HELP!!!:rolleyes:

[jetlander]

diet muna ha kasi delikado sa exercise e kailangan may doctors advice bago kami magbigay ng exercise regimen for hypertensive patients.

1. low sodium diet. bawasan ang intake ng mga salty foods, kung mahilig sa mga patis, asin etc.
2. avoid fatty foods mas maganda kung mga white meat ang kainin gaya ng fish, chicken without the skin siempre, sa pagluto naman mas mabuti kung broiled,grilled or steamed kase less fat pag ganito ang luto. ok lang yong red meat basta wag everyday dapat in moderation ang pagkain
3.stop smoking
4.1-2 glasses of wine is good but kung sumobra delikado na. iwasan muna mga hard drinks
5.eat fruits and vegetables
6.prescribed medicines dapat palaging iniinom

always monitor your fathers BP

[jetlander]

dapat din pala rich sa fiber yong food ng father mo gaya ng cereals oatmeals

sana kahit papaano nakatulong ako:D

[Ira]

You should ask his cardiologist first for clearance to undergo exercises, since he may have risk factors which prevent him from undergoing exercises. Offhand, I don't see any problem if his only problem is hypertension and his BP is just 140/90. Low or medium impact exercises such as walking, bicycling, swimming, jogging, dancing, or hiking, are linked with lowering high blood pressure. Endurance activities (walking, swimming, cycling and low-impact aerobics) should be the core of the exercise program. Exercises that include an intense isometric component that can cause fluctuations in blood pressure should be avoided. Ideally, hypertensives should exercise 3x a week for 30-60 mins. per session.

[kabise]

Originally posted by jetlander

1. low sodium diet. bawasan ang intake ng mga salty foods, kung mahilig sa mga patis, asin etc.



i asked my nutritionist what is low sodium diet,

he said an intake of less than 2000 mg of salt per day or in lay man's term less than teaspoon a day.

he also metion that if your diet is only consist of all natural food, e.g. if your diet is all fruits you still going to get at least 800 mg of sodium. (not NaCl)

[drakesnake]

Hey thanks i got all the necessary info that i need, btw, may chance pa ba sya na bumaba ang BP nya into 120/80? from 140/90?

[anghel]

Originally posted by drakesnake
Hey thanks i got all the necessary info that i need, btw, may chance pa ba sya na bumaba ang BP nya into 120/80? from 140/90?


yes of course. just with proper nutrition and some exercises that should be recommended by his doctor. if he is taking some meds prescribed by his doc --then continue doing it.

[Ira]

Originally posted by drakesnake
Hey thanks i got all the necessary info that i need, btw, may chance pa ba sya na bumaba ang BP nya into 120/80? from 140/90?

If you mean whether he'll revert back to being normotensive without medications, generally, no, although there are occassional cases wherein previously hypertensive patients revert to being normotensive again. However, with regular intake of medications, being normotensive isn't a problem.

[cuteboy17]

Doc Ira!

Patanong lang. Kasi meron kaming automatic blood pressure reading machine sa bahay. Ngayon ang reading ko is 104/46. Normal yung 104 sa chart, kaso you 46 low.

What do these numbers mean? How could the low thing affect my lyf?

[Ira]

Physicians generally don't trust automatic/computerized BP machines. They are very inaccurate. Chances are, yours is, too. You should have your BP rechecked using a normal sphygmomanometer.

[cuteboy17]

kaso let's assume na medyo nasa ganung level ang BP ko, what does it mean?

[Ira]

It means you're a little dehydrated.

[cuteboy17]

Thanks Doc!;)

[StJames]

is it true that sleeping late tends to increase BP or even cholesterol levels?

[centurion]

Im just curious do blood pressure affects your pulse rate? if yes, does it mean that if you have a high blood pressuer like 180/110 it means you have a higher pulse rate? or lower? :rolleyes: thanks!!

[K_r_a_m]

I think BP does affect the pulse rate because of its indirect relationship. Most of the time if one has a high BP, he also has a high pulse rate. But of course there are exceptions to this. Some patients have a high BP but have low pulse rate.


:zzz:

[Ira]

Where ever did you get that idea? On the contrary, a high BP does not go with a high pulse rate.

While the 2 variables are related, there is really no direct relationship with BP and pulse rate. It will depend on other cardiac factors and what disease you have. You can have a BP of 220/140 and more often than not have a normal pulse rate. And in hypovolemic patients (those who have lost fluids or blood), you get a very high pulse rate with a very low BP.

[centurion]

thanks you enlightened me;)

[munik]

The past few weeks, I feel like i'm always tired and sometimes I get some dizzy spells. I play tennis for an hour early in the morning 3 times a week on the average. When I do play, even though I leave the court not feeling tired at all, when I get to the office I feel drained energy wise. I would be sitting in front of my PC and fatigue would just hit me and a couple of times, the dizzy spells would come.
Yesterday, I had my BP checked both using a digital battery operated BP reader and an ordinary sphygmomanometer.
The former gave a reading of 130/50 and the latter a 160/55.

What is the normal BP range? What does a low BP (my readings say I have low BP daw e) mean?

My regular doctor is an internist (i have gastritis e). In case I get a check up, can I just go to him or do you think i'd need to see another doctor like a cardiologist or something?

[Ira]

The normal range for BP is 90-140/70-90. You should have your BP taken after resting for about 10 minutes, not immediately after fatigue, exertion or activity. Ordinary sphygmomanometers are preferable over the electronics ones---they are more accurate. Sometimes, young people get a low BP, and this is still normal. You can just follow up initially with your internist. He is capable of treating you, and will refer you to a cardiologist only if he sees a need to.

[munik]

I didn't play at all when I had my BP taken. Is 27 still young an age for a low BP? :)

Thanks as usual. :)

[Ira]

27 is a little too old for that. However, an isolated BP reading does not really signify that you really have a low BP. It's like saying you have a heart problem based only on one isolated pulse rate. The BP changes very quickly in response to various stimuli. You should have your BP taken twice daily at the same time for at least a week. If the pattern persists even at rest across days and you have other symptoms like dizziness and blackouts, see a cardiologist.

[wltr]

i have a friend (25 years old) who had a bp reading at 150/94. he has been consuming about 2-3 glasses (about 250 ml/glass) a day of iced tea lately. is drinking iced tea one of the contributory factors of him having this high reading?

[eyedoc]

No. The packaged variety of iced tea contains mostly sugar. Also, regular tea contains much less caffeine than your usual coffee and even cola.

Have your friend consult an internist to check the cause of his high BP.

[wltr]

by the way he also takes coffee... about a cup a day. any relationship with this? thanks.

[eyedoc]

A cup a day of coffee is fine.

BTW, I forgot to ask if the BP reading is a single reading only or a series of readings. A single reading may be affected by a lot of factors, like emotions, stress, diet, time of the day, etc. etc. You need to have at least 2 readings on 2 different occasions to be able to say that the person really has a high blood pressure.

[wltr]

it happened just once (i think). the next time he had it checked, it was already 130/90. he is also having this frontal lobe headache.

[mravel22]

on the contrary, tea has weak diuretic properties. it should even lower the bp reading a wee bit...

hypertension is generally essential - meaning, the cause is unknown.

your friend needs to consult a doctor/internist.

[ambertookme]

i'm a bit overweight for my size, i'm 5'7'' and weighs a little over 80 kls. my doctor told me that i have a high normal BP.sometimes,it shoots up to 150/90 pag sa hospital setting ako kukunan ng vital signs.i know this could just be placebo.pag wala naman sa hospital,it's 130/90.i'm worried too coz i snore and i smoke a lot.

is hypertension curable? once u've established a baseline,will it be like that forever?

BTW, i'm taking neoblock 50 mg once in a while.without my doctor's knowledge.

[batang uliran]

hypertension is treatable and can be controlled. weight loss and exercise are among the non-pharmaceutical ways to control it. if these conservative methods do not work, you may have no option but to rely on medications to control your blood pressure for you.

lay off the cigarettes. you're setting yourself up for strokes and heart disease in the future.

[Apolpay]

me nga 90/70 badtrip eh buntis pa ako di ko na alam
kung ano ano na kinakain ko na pampadagdag ng blood di
pa rin nagbabago BP ko :(

i'm only 23 y.o then 5'1 lang po c ako, weight ko nasa 112 lbs.

[eyedoc]

Most Asian women including Pinays would have BP around the range of 90-110/60-80. If it's always been like that, don't worry too much about it.

[sprakendoitz]

me too, im 22, 5'8 and 190 lbs. my baseline BP is 130/80 but sometimes increase to 140/90. pero in the morning, it could go as low as 90/60... ewan kung bakit. ***** it would go back to the normal of 120/80 if i lose this excess 30 lbs...

[ambertookme]

sprakendoitz,ako naman more on brisk walking ngayon.mga 30 minutes around our village. tapos i'm really trying to cut down on my smoking.pero i can't quit.well at least not yet.






apolpay, am not a doctor pero i know ur BP is just fine.pero siguro u need to take some iron.


ako nga lahat ng risk factors ng stroke, positive ako.hypertensive din kasi si Mama and i think it runs in the family.plus i'm overweight,i snore....geeezzzz....,i smoke and i live a sedentary lifestyle, kain tulog baga.

[aya_smaylee]

hmmm...try to lose weight, because that may be the root of your problems...including snoring ha!
130/90 is okay, but you have to watch out for "danger signs" such as dizziness, blurring of vision, headache, nape pain..etc...
you're a heart disease in the making, so get rid of all the risk factors such as high fat high salt diet, smoking, drinking, obesity...
exercise really helps out a lot...

[ambertookme]

aya_smaylee, i'm REALLY trying to quit smoking.HONEST! i'm into brisk walking nga and recently,i'm cutting out the fat na.i just had an ECG a week ago and my doctor said everything is normal.

but that is because i took 50 mg Neoblock the day before.

on the danger signs naman, negative naman on all of those mentioned except for some recurring headache,especially at night.i'm brushing up my knowledge on stroke too. naghahanda na.:D

[aya_smaylee]

well, neobloc is for the high blood, so if i were you, maybe you can consult with a doctor and ask him if you could take that regularly, para at least ma-avoid complications ng hypertension.
i smoke too and it's really hard to quit, but it helps if you have a goal in mind...like see your grandchildren, hehehe
:)

[rtsport]

hi

i'm 24 around 140lbs.
5'4

my BP fluctuates between 110/70 - 115/75 - 120/80 - 125/80 - 120/82-84. But usually it is at 120/80.

I actually get scared nga when I see a 120/82-84 on the Diastolic pressure.

Isn't a diastolic pressure of 82-84 high na for my age? Sometimes wala naman ako ginagawa.

Oh one more thing...
how come there are times pag sobrang lamig na in my room - airconditioner - when i check my BP the diastolic pressure sometimes reaches 85-90? Systolic is okay. Pag ganito sobrang lamig ako. After I turn off the airconditioner, diastolic pressure drops na anywhere from 70-80 after a few minutes... pag hindi na malamig hands ko.

I'm always in front of the computer - career-related.
Sometimes pag pagod na ako or the eyes/head... i check my BP and it goes up like to 85-92 pa nga sa Diastolic pressure. After a few minutes pag rest ko, normal na ulit.

I'm getting nervous about this diastolic pressure. But most of the time, normal naman like I said.

[ambertookme]

rtsport ,a diastolic reading of 80 is ok.

aya , yes,i'd like to see my grandchildren.

[eyedoc]

rtsport- Relax. Your readings are OK. A few mmHg mercury of fluctuation is normal. Our BP is really dynamic, you don't expect it to stay at absolutely the same level all the time.

[aya_smaylee]

very normal. =)
i think you're using the digital blood pressure reader, huh? that thing makes my parents panic too, because it changes readngs after just a few minutes, Don't worry, thats pretty normal. If i were you, just have it taken sa medical clinic in your work place, using the aneroid one (the one you seen in hospitals).. it would be better, more accurate, they say.
also, heat and cold affect our blood pressure, but only slightly, as you've noted. This has something to do with the constriction and dilatation of your blood vessels...

=)

[rtsport]

T H A N K Y O U ambertookme. eyedoc and aya_smaylee !!!!


To tell you the truth, ilang months na ako getting paranoid about this.
I think this paranoia started ever since I bought the omron digital blood pressure monitor. minsan nga, pag nakita ko na bp ko is 120/82-85, kinakabahan ako agad. as in split-second tapos hyperventilate na ako then kunin ko bp ko again, then aakyat ng 130-139/90-95!

but when i relax - and it is hard to relax during this time - everything goes back to normal like 110/70-120/80.

So heat and cold affect our bp.

I think i got super-sensitivesince i started using the digital bp talaga!

kasi some of my friends - i'm MALE pala - have readings like 100/70 lang e.

kaya i thought 82-92 diastolic fluctuation is something to be scared about.

what about pag strained yung eyes while in front of the computer for a long time?

ambertookme,

my friend has the same baseline bp. dati he had a high blood pressure.

He just changed his lifestyle. Eating habits, regular exercise, stoped smoking and drinking alcohol. NOW, he IS FINE! =)

[ambertookme]

really?good for him! and i'm on my way. less yosi pag break.instead of taking a cab from megamall to my ofc in emerald ave (ortigas), i walk na lang. hindi ko lang kasi masingit talaga yung heavy cardiovascular exercise na pinagagawa sa akin. i dont go to the gym that often na rin kasi.

[swordfish_01]

Doc Ira, wanna know what are the other ways to lower your b.p. could you suggest some?? is it true that your b.p. lowers if ur always puyat? pls help. thanx

[Ira]

Actually, lack of sleep tends to increase your blood pressure further. How high are we talking about here, what situation was it taken, and how often did you have your BP checked?

[swordfish_01]

it was taken when i'm a bit tired, but when im relaxed like when i just get up from bed it was 140/100. i've just tested my bp 2 weeks ago. what can u advice?? thanks

[neptune]

Originally posted by Ira
Actually, lack of sleep tends to increase your blood pressure further. How high are we talking about here, what situation was it taken, and how often did you have your BP checked?
talaga? pag puyat ka lalo pang tataas b.p. mo? :eek:

[jetlander]

kindly explain why lack of sleep makes your BP higher?

It was told to us that lack of sleep tend to lower the BP kaya ito ang sinasabi ko sa patient when they're asking me why they have a low BP reading....(90/60 mmHg)

[The Phoenix]

Lack of sleep is stress on the body. In response to stress the body increases production of neurotransmitters specifically epinephrine and norepinephrine (substances responsible for the flight or fight phenomenon) which are very potent vasoconstrictors with increased heart rate and blood pressure as one of their effects.

Adequate sleep lowers the baseline bp readings.

[blakedaddy]

exercise more, eat healthier, enjoy life :)

[froshie1]

Hi Doc is it ok to take raw garlic plus a half tablet hypertension drug ( 1/2 Logimax brand name, generic name - Metoprolol Felodipine, btw the 1/2 was prescribed by the cardiologist)? Or kung may hypertension drug ka na eh no no ang pag take ng garlic?

[jimboy]

froshie1, i think it is better to ask YOUR doc about this. he would know your condition best. there are some anti-hypertension drugs which has to be maintained.

stay healthy.

[DI10]

wats with garlic and hypertension ba?

[pexxerdoc]

Originally posted by froshie1
Hi Doc is it ok to take raw garlic plus a half tablet hypertension drug ( 1/2 Logimax brand name, generic name - Metoprolol Felodipine, btw the 1/2 was prescribed by the cardiologist)?

Pag paminsan minsan, eating raw garlic is good. I love eating raw garlic pero my wife is not too keen with my dietary preference. Nonetheless, she uses a lot of it when she prepares our meals.

I suspect your cardiologist prescribed you half the dose of Metoprolol, a beta blocker most commonly used to control hypertension, because you're a garlic lover too, just like me.

According to the Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/478882_3), garlic is possibly effective when taken orally for hypertension. Fresh, intact garlic cells contain the amino acid alliin, which is considered to be the most active constituent.

When the intact cells are broken, alliin is converted to allicin by the enzyme allinase. Garlic is thought to be effective in the treatment of hypertension by causing smooth muscle relaxation and vasodilation.

A meta-analysis of trials evaluating the efficacy of garlic in the treatment of high blood pressure showed that garlic decreases Systolic BP by 7.7 mm Hg and DBP by 5.0 mm Hg when compared with placebo. The optimum dosage of garlic for the treatment of hypertension has yet to be established and the use of garlic in the treatment of hypertension remains controversial.

Several studies have alluded to the fact that garlic is effective in the treatment of hypertension whereas a placebo-controlled study reported that it has no effect on blood pressure. These contradictions are probably due to variations in treatment protocols, duration of therapy, and formulation utilized; however, a recent study argued that the results warrant using standardized formulations of garlic. Although garlic does fit the working definition of some evidence of benefit, the studies that allude to its efficacy include humans in small, uncontrolled studies.

Before recommending garlic in the treatment of hypertension, better developed studies showing positive outcomes on blood pressure are needed.

Or kung may hypertension drug ka na eh no no ang pag take ng garlic?

Hindi naman "no no" eto if you eat bawang in moderation and because alang drug interaction ang garlic with beta blockers. I would suggest though, for you to buy a small inexpensive BP home device to monitor your blood pressure closely. Or, froshie1, go to any clinic for a regular BP check.




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[froshie1]

Originally posted by pexxerdoc


Hindi naman "no no" eto if you eat bawang in moderation and because alang drug interaction ang garlic with beta blockers. I would suggest though, for you to buy a small inexpensive BP home device to monitor your blood pressure closely. Or, froshie1, go to any clinic for a regular BP check.




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Ang ibig ko pong sabihin ay ok lang po ba kumain ng raw garlic maski na nagtetake ng hypertension meds?

Paniwala ko nga sa garlic eh nakakapag pababa / nakakapag pa cure ito ng high blood pressure. Baka iniisip ko lang eh may masamang effect ito kapag tinake mo ito plus nagtetake ka pa ng hypertension meds.

[froshie1]

And yup! I have a bp monitor. usually ang readings ko nasa 100/70, 110/78, 123/79.

and about the bawang thing, parang ang goal ko dun sa pagtake eh para ma "double effect" or mas mabisa ang pagpapagaling ko sa hypertension.

[pexxerdoc]

Originally posted by froshie1
And yup! I have a bp monitor. usually ang readings ko nasa 100/70, 110/78, 123/79.


Normal readings yan! Looks like your HPN is well under control.

and about the bawang thing, parang ang goal ko dun sa pagtake eh para ma "double effect" or mas mabisa ang pagpapagaling ko sa hypertension.

Just inform your cardiologist yun pa-"double effect" plan mo. Perhaps, he can later decrease your beta blocker dose to 1/4th or less. Or, completely discontinue the prescription - your goal, noh?

I guess I don't have to remind you about lessening your salt intake, stress and high-choleterol meriendas . At saka, that proper diet/exercise is of paramount importance.

;)


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[froshie1]

yes doc! pa-normal na nga. My goal is to discontinue the prescription since bata pa ako. thanks a lot! :-)

[pexxerdoc]

^^You're welcome! :)

Do update us about your remarkable and very inspiring progress.


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[Jonga]

mmmmm.... garlic...

[mrpathetic]

recently i've been experiencing dizziness and feel like floating when i walk. i thought it was due to my eyes but i had them checked and they were fine. then i had my pressure checked. it was 130/90. i'm gonna get blood test to know what caused this. what can i do to lower the pressure?

[carlos]

Go see a doctor (cardiologist). He's the best person to consult. From experience, they'll let you undergo a series of tests to determine the source of your BP. After which, they will probably prescribe BP-lowering drugs. 130/90 is not that high...pero baseline na sya so you need to consult a doctor asap.

[froshie1]

lose weight and avoid salty and fatty foods. drink lots of water.

[mozart]

it could also be caused by creatine

[markpaul]

Balanced Diet.

Low fat, low salt diet.

[pexxerdoc]

Go see a doctor (cardiologist). He's the best person to consult. From experience, they'll let you undergo a series of tests to determine the source of your BP. After which, they will probably prescribe BP-lowering drugs. 130/90 is not that high...pero baseline na sya so you need to consult a doctor asap.

lose weight and avoid salty and fatty foods. drink lots of water.

Balanced Diet.

Low fat, low salt diet.

I agree, froshie1,markpaul and carlos!


recently i've been experiencing dizziness and feel like floating when i walk. i thought it was due to my eyes but i had them checked and they were fine. then i had my pressure checked. it was 130/90. i'm gonna get blood test to know what caused this. what can i do to lower the pressure?

Forgive me but I cringe each time I read posts like these. The impression I get (which may be totally wrong) is that you guys are diagnosing and treating yourself.

Allow me to explain. First, you write “experiencing dizziness and feeling like you’re floating when you walk.” These may be nothing at all or may be signs or symptoms of a very dangerous illness such as impending stroke. Yet you decided upon yourself to have your eyes checked.

Secondly, a question comes to mind. Did your Ophthalmologist/Optometrist inform you if your retinal arteries are normal or sclerotic which maybe a sign of a potentially fatal chronic hypertension? But then you write that your eyes are fine.

Thirdly, you proceeded to have your blood pressure checked. With no other family history of kidney, heart, or hypercholesterolemia and at ages of 40 and above, times of stress, etc. this one single BP reading may well be within normal limits.

And finally, here’s the clincher: You posted, ” . i'm gonna get blood test to know what caused this.” May I know which kind of blood test? Am assuming of course, that you meant after your primary/family physician sees you, right?

He/she can, therefore, decide which appropriate laboratory work is needed. Thus he/she can tell you after a thorough personal/family history taking and physical exam including a series of BP readings (sitting/lying/standing) what might have caused your blood pressure to go up.

There are many different ways available to your doctor to treat your specific condition depending on the diagnosis whatever it is. For example: arteriosclerosis, at best it might only need change of diet, at worse, blood cholesterol lowering drugs. For stress, perhaps your family physician can advise you, more exercise and will not find any need for sedatives.

mp,
I hope your condition is just mild and treatable with simple diet or exercise. :)

[froshie1]

btw, mrpathetic. I have hyerptension too pero manageable naman sya at hindi na sya nagshoshoot (alaga sa diet, sometimes excercise at sunod sa iba pang utos ng doc). nakuha ko sya dahil sa walang pakialam na lifestyle ko before - araw-araw KFC/Jollibee, araw-araw softdrinks, walang physical activity at sobrang stressed pa sa work, pag kumain ako before dapat full na full. kung hindi "full na full" ibig sabihin gutom pa ako.

lagi ka bang nagfafast food? if yes, cut out mo muna yan. iyang KFC ang isa sa mga dahilan/nagtrigger ng highblood ko though meron ng iba pang causes pero sya iyong huling huling ginawa ko bago ako madiagnose na may highblood.

dati ang weight ko 180lbs ngayon naglalaro na sa 157lbs na lang. dati nga 155 pero nag gain ng 2lbs.

magpathorough check up ka pre it's worth the money para malaman talaga kung ano ang cause. ako nagpathorough check up ako pero walang nakitang defects sa blood and sa body parts. you name the test and most likely nadaanan ko yan (e.g. creatinine, cholesterol, ultra sound ng leeg (nakalimutan ko tawag dito basta iyong ugat sa leeg tinignan), ct scan of adrenals, ct scan of meron pang isang ginawa eh iyong sa ugat ng kidney (ayun renal arteries) nakalimutan ko na iyon ct scan ata iyon or ultra sound, ultrasound ng liver, 2d echo, iyong tatakbo ka sa thread mill etc.. etc..) nagawa ko yan lahat at awa naman ng diyos walang nakita (cholesterol level ko normal maski obese ako). Sa threadmill nga naka Stage 6 pa ako and at that time obese pa ako, afaik ang Stage 6 eh athelete na iyon. May nakita pala sa liver ko which is nakalagay fatty liver pero kelangan ko lang daw mag-diet at mawawala iyon.

take care of your heart bro! iisa lang yan! at syempre diet ka pre. dati talagang strict na fish lang ako at ayun bumaba ang weight ko. ngayon from time to time nakakapag "cheat foods" ako. cheat foods tawag ka dun sa pizza, chichirya (except chicharon, talagang di na ako kumakain nito, minsan tikim as in tikim lang para matikman), hamburger and the likes...

bigyan mo kami ng feedback dito! kayang kaya mo yan!

at isa ko pang tip! hanap ka ng doc na magaling. kasi iyong una kong doc hindi magaling at nananakot pa. hindi nya ako napagaling. itong doc ko ngayon magaling, kampante talaga ako sa kanya at sya lang nagpanormalize ng bp ko. sya iyong tipong doc na "I'm your doctor, do not worry. Everything will be ok!"

[markpaul]

i have a garlic supplement.
i forgot the name...

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Hi Doc! Ask ko lang po if it's normal for some people to have quite high BPs. Kasi my sister usually has a bp of 130/100. 130/90 yata..

Tapos my husband ganun din. Nasa lahi namin saka ng hubby ko yung hypertension kaya medyo nagwo-worry ako kasi minsan sumasakit na yung batok nila. Pero kahit anong gawin like kahit mag-exercise or bawasan ang meat eh ganun pa din bp nya.

[froshie1]

Tell you sister and husband na magpacheck na sya sa isang magaling na Cardiologist. Based on her BP readings na sa borderline na sya. Ang normal alam ko nagsisimula sa 90/60 - 139/89.

[markpaul]

Lemon Grass is good for Hypertension too.

[susmariosep]

I notice that doctors experiment with different kinds of medicines for bringing down high blood pressure.

My doctor has experimented with all kinds of medicines, specially the new ones and more expensive ones.

And for the last eight years my blood pressure is still 160/96, often higher than lower.

I understand the different medications attack high blood pressure (hbp) by targeting different systems or parts of the body which can be causes of hbp.

Recently I tried on my own the humble generic old calcium blocker, Darat, taking 10 mgs once in the morning; it brought down my hbp to around or lesser than 140/90.

But I am afraid something worse might happen to me for adding calcium blocker to the daily medication prescribed by my doctor for the last three years, of Dilatrend 25 mgs one half, Cozaar 100 mgs one half, Burinex 1 mg, in the morning and in the evening (no Burinex though in the evening).

That prescribed medication from my doctor is not working at all; but my addition of Darat 10 mgs had been effective, as I described above.

What do you think, should I stop the Dilatrend and Cozaar, and just continue with Darat 10 mgs once in the morning and once in the evening, of course retaining the 10 mgs of Burinex in the morning.

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This query is addressed to doctors and also people who have high blood pressure themselves and are on maintenance medication from their doctors.

Sumariosep

[Phooey]

Hmm. I caution against changing your medications without your physicians prior knowledge. Your particular combination of drug therapy suggestions a Congestive Heart Failure/Cardiomyopathy rather than just simple essential hypertension. Playing around with your medications may lead to a sudden decline in your physical well being and may put your life in danger.

I understand your concerns about the prohibitive cost of your medications, obviously, no one wants to see money that could have been spent on other things. BUT, please remember that this is for your sake.

My first suggestion would be for you to have another consult with your doctor and try to talk to him about your condition. Simpleng altapresyon lang ba to o hindi?
Its important na you understand your diagnosis, what each individual drug is for and how they work in treating your condition. Once youve established that it may be just as simple as saying "Doc, pwede bng palitan ng mas mura? Di ko kasi kaya". For doctors handling these sorts of cases, the most important thing is patients daily compliance. It does you no good if you drink your medicine only 2-3x a week or drink kung kelan lang sumasakit ang iyong batok. So you should ask. The vast majority of doctors will understand.
If you feel the doctor is insensitive to your concerns despite your stating them maybe you can look for another doctor more compatible with you. You can ask a copy of your records and even ask a referral from your previous doctor. Dont be ashamed to do this. I can think of a hundred good excuses you can use to do so without offending your current doctor. :)

You didnt tell me your age or physical profile, but Im assuming your still fairly young. Its also important to know if you fatigue easily or if your experiencing any chest pain. Using blood pressure as a sole method of determining your health is inadvisable.

If you are able to maintain your blood pressure at a fairly normal level I anticipate many more years more of healthy living. Just remember that things are not as simple as they may seem and what works for other people may not necessarily work for you.

[JENSIE_G]

Is high blood pressure same as hypertension?

:wondering:

[Phooey]

Hypertension - High Blood - Altapresyon
Simply put more than 1 blood pressure determination that exceeds 120/90 preferrably taken by a doctor. ( pls excuse the simplistic definition)

A common misconception I've encountered is that people think you can tell if your "anemic" or have low red blood cell count through blood pressure determination. You find out if your high blood or not with a blood pressure gauge (sphygmomanometer) and if your anemic from a complete blood count (CBC).

[CA]

pre try mo mag natural medication tulad ko dati umiinom ako ng gamot ***** hindi na. Eat kalang ng walang salt maalat iwasan mo eat less kalang. dont eat na ng carne kung pwede fish, vegeatable kung maari organic vegeatable kainin mo. Siyanga pala dont forget to exercise kahit stretching and walking lang. Try mo uminon ng virgin coconut oil at green tea. At saka pala try mo mag oatmeal iwas sa mga matatamis. Yun lang baba na ang BP mo.

[Contrabolate05]

hi susmaryosep.. i do agree with CA, you can do it the natural way.. i found it very effective.. at napansin ko kasi one time yung mga gamot ng doctor parang panandalian lang, so may tendency na babalik at babalik ka. at tuwang-tuwa naman si doc! :D

"Educating Instead of Medicating"

sana makatulong sa inyo 'tong link na 'to http://curezone.com/dis/1.asp?C0=60

take note of the "toxins"/"the food that kill" and "the food that heal". yung "toxins" dyan halos lahat ng pagkain bawal, pero pwede naman in moderation lang. "water cure" yung pinaka-cheap :glee:

[tintable]

Just for the record, Medicine is not an exact science and that is why doctors do have to make adjustments on medications and other treatments because each patient is unique.

Hypertension is a blood pressure reading of more than 140/90 on two separate readings.

As for the anti-hypertensive drugs, I suggest that you take them as prescribed, meaning, the right dose and right time. Don't go experimenting with drugs yourself because you may suffer the side-effects/adverse drug reactions. Calcium channel blockers may be bad for you if you have CHF and also it decreases the drug elimination rate of the liver which may cause toxicity.

The reason why treatment regimens for HPN often fail is because of poor patient compliance. Moreover, it's not always true that these medications target to lower down your blood pressure. We don't want your blood pressure to really go down or normalize instead because it will harm you all the more. What we want is for your blood pressure to be maintained and lower just a bit and not to go higher. Also, medications will work best if you couple it with the right diet and exercise. Have low fat and moderate salt in your diet and do light exercises. Strenuous workouts may exacerbate the condition further. In addition, you may do relaxation techniques (ie. Progressive Muscle Relaxation) in conjunct with your medications.

As for your choice of physician, if you believe that he/she is not competent enough, better see another one. It is always helpful to seek second or third opinions. :)

[leela1025]

Vascor, Lifezar, Versant, Combizar, Norplus, Norten are some of Unilab's anti-hypertension medicines. These are cheaper than the medicines marketed by other multinational pharmaceutical companies but are as effective. These products are under the Pharmacoeconomics program of Unilab, a program that aims to bring cheaper but effective medicines to the public. I suggest you consult your doctor regarding these medicines before taking them.

[tintable]

If you think your medications are too expensive for you, ask your doctor for generic counterparts.

^tama si Leela, try Unilab's products or *** sa Ritemed...:)

[leela1025]

Tama si tintable. RiteMED is the generics subsidiary of Unilab so guaranteed cheaper but just as effective medicines.

[LucT]

Anybody ever heard of ANCOM ? My mom's taking it and its really effective naman. But the problem is I'm not sure if its safe, its label is written in chinese and mom doesn't have a doctor's prescription, although over the counter drug lang ito sa mga chinese stores and I know a lot of people who takes it, some even for years. Anybody got any idea ?

[travy]

Anybody ever heard of ANCOM ? My mom's taking it and its really effective naman. But the problem is I'm not sure if its safe, its label is written in chinese and mom doesn't have a doctor's prescription, although over the counter drug lang ito sa mga chinese stores and I know a lot of people who takes it, some even for years. Anybody got any idea ?


don't take that. my mom used to take that med...but her dr. told her that some ingredients of that meds are already ban by usfda. very risky.

[raqx]

pampababa ng BP? unsweetened pineapple juice, o kaya isang baso ng pinakuluang garlic. gross yung latter pero effective.

[tintable]

Never attempt to self-medicate especially for cardiovascular diseases such as hypertension. It's a no-no as well to adjust dosages without a doctor changing it for you.

Garlic is among the 10 Herbal Medicines approved by the DOH. 2 garlic segments every after meal will do. You could either soak it in vinegar or fry it without oil. :)

[froshie1]

^ pare ano lemon grass sa tagalog?

[3BF8AX]

^tanglad bro

[MonTecarLo]

may nabibili bang empty capsules?

naisip ko lang tong idea na to kaysa bumili ng garlic supplements.

Dikdikin ang bawang ng pino then stuff it to the empty capsules.

[jimboy]

merong mabibiling empty capsules sa mga drug stores. yung problem lang nga sa iniisip mo eh ma-ooxidize yung garlic kung di mo kainin/inumin kaagad.

[jimboy]

merong mabibiling empty capsules sa mga drug stores. yung problem lang nga sa iniisip mo eh ma-ooxidize yung garlic kung di mo kainin/inumin kaagad.

[robee29]

hi there peeps,

ang dami pala hypertensive dito, tulad ko. my doctor advised me to take Lifezar 100 mg. pumapalo ang bp ko ng 150/90 and lately nakakaramdam na ako ng madalas na pagkahilo. actually , dapat work up ko nung sat, ang hirap hanapin ng gamot na may tamang dosage na 100. kaya *** tig 50 *** binili ko and nagtake na ako kahapon ng 50 kontra dun sa advised dosage ng doc ko..dapat ba dagdagn ko pa dosage ko, mejo mahal kasi *** gamot. dati ang inadvise sa akin eh NEOBLOC, i stopped using it after a week. then di na ako nagfollow up..this time ibang doc na naman. ang nakakainis sa mga doktor na ito, preho sila ng una kong doc, mahilig sa cell phone :D . pag kumukuriring na ang phone nila unahin muna un. nakakainis nga lang pingadududahn ko tuloy ang findings nila kasi di sila pokus sa pasyente :grrr: ..kaya sana irefer naman ako ni frostie sa kanyang doktor.. *okay*

[froshie1]

^ dude see your pm.

about the kirring. those are people who are in very high risk pre. may doc also has those kiriring pero hindi ka nya mamadaliin magsalita. Contact him at Asian Hospital or Makati Med. Pa-schedule ka kasi by appointment ang punta ng mga patients sa kanya.

just a tip, dalhin mo na din iyong mga tests mo (luma man or bago). kung luma ito, malamang ipapag-test ka nya ulit ng panibago.

[shonen]

hilaw na garlic po, wag pakuluan o prito. basta hilaw :)

ulitin ko, dapat po hilaw na bawang. ihalo sa 1tsp honeybee.

tsaka celery. ijuice o iblender.

da best po talaga ang bawang, na hilaw

[alternіck]

I'm 26M around 5'6" and 220lb :( and I'm having a problem with hypertension

I just had my pre-med checkup for employment a while ago and the doctor told me that I have 140/90 (taken twice w/in 30 mins) and they only hire people with 120/80 blood pressure.

I was given a week (two the most) to lower my BP to normal.

I used to have a normal BP (around a year ago) and it went up to 130/90 (June 2005) and 140/90 (today)

I used to work-out (around 5-6 yrs ago, I weighed around 150lb then) and I really gained weight through the years, mostly due to sloppy lifestyle (no exercise and really eating delicious, but unfortunately fatty foods)

I'm planning to really cut my bad habits in the long run by going into exercise again and eating less, but my immediate concern right now is to make my BP to normal within 1 week.

So far, I already started doing running exercises (treadmill/bike) and I'm going to do this daily for 1 hr, cut ALL the fat, sweets and stick to low-fat/carb diet and taking a glass of pineapple juice. I might even try the garlic thingy as well.

So any advice that you can guys can give, especially to the resident doctors here in PEX? And it is possible to achieve my goal in the first place?

I'm not doing this for employment reasons (although it really sucks if this is going to be the reason I'm not going to be employed, since this is really a very big and famous company) but for my sake as well.

Many thanks. And obviously, alternick ako :D

[archerguy]

I was diagnosed with hypertension in 2003 and began taking bp-lowering drugs.. and so far ok naman. My cardiologist experimented with mild drugs..they didn't work. Then she prescribed aanother drug Combizar (Losartan Potassium Hydrochlorothiazide?). May kasamang diuretic which eliminates salt in the blood thru urination.My BP normalized into the 130/90 level. Right now naglalaro sya sa level na'to..say 128/88..131/85. I think this is my normal BP level. I'm now taking another drug with the same generic name (nasa Saudi kasi ako, hindi available yung Combizar).

My tip: don't experiment. Have yourself assessed by your doctor and undergo various tests. In my case I've had blood test, blood chemistry test, urine, and kidney ultrasound. They found out that I have essential hypertension and need to take maintenance drug for my BP. During my medical test my company also required us to maintain a normal BP. I took ABS Bitter Herbs...alam nyo it really WORKED. Nag-normal bigla yung BP pumalo sa 128/80 which was deemed acceptable sabi nila. Medyo mahal nga lang pero it's worth it.

[Papichulo168]

When I was diagnosed with hypertension (due to lifestyle) a year ago during my pre employment checkup I was told to take Coniel (Benizipine HCL) for maintenance. It's my first time to take an antihypertensive drug so I had no basis of comparison but what I can say about Coniel is it was effective for me.

Ask your doctor about it.

Also I've been eating mackerel at least 3X a week and I can really feel significant improvement on my well being.

[robee29]

^ dude see your pm.

about the kirring. those are people who are in very high risk pre. may doc also has those kiriring pero hindi ka nya mamadaliin magsalita. Contact him at Asian Hospital or Makati Med. Pa-schedule ka kasi by appointment ang punta ng mga patients sa kanya.

just a tip, dalhin mo na din iyong mga tests mo (luma man or bago). kung luma ito, malamang ipapag-test ka nya ulit ng panibago.

ah ok :D ..wala akong natanggap na pm sa yo. ilang taon na ba doc mo?..magpapalaboratory pa lang kasi ako eh pero meron na akong kopya ng dati kong lab.
sa gabi nararamdaman ko *** palpitation. nagpa ecg na ako, results n *** hintay.di ko pa na try magpine apple juice eh. subukan ko pa lang :bop:

[froshie1]

ayan sinend ko ulit. weird mukhang nag time-out.

sorry pre pero hindi ko alam kung ilang taon na sya pero tantiya ko nasa mid 40s. anyway, para na rin sa mga peeps na who wants to have a better or should I say the best cardio, you can seek the help of my doctor. His name is Dr. Gary A. Lopez. Mayron syang clinic sa Makati Medical Center and Asian Hospital. Internal Medicine din sya so pwede mong ipatingin sa kanya kung may iba pa kayong nararamdaman. Besides sa "M.D" na nakadikit sa kanyang pangalan, meron din syang FPCP sa dulo at numerous trainings sa US. After a little googling I found out mayron syang contributions sa Asian Annals "Repair of Thoracic Aortic Aneurysm and Dissection Using Deep-Hypothermic Circulatory Arrest".

Anyway try nyo na lang magaling ito!

[alternіck]

UPDATE: After 2 days of controlled eating (low carb/fat diet), pineapple juice, daily 1-hr treadmill sessions and garlic sessions as well, I decided to have my BP checked in our community health clinic

1st try: 120/90
2nd try: 110/80

So I decided to go to the company to continue my physical, but when I got there, I got a 130/80 BP twice. So the doctor advised me to continue what I'm doing, have my BP checked daily for 1 week and afterwitch I'll go back to their clinic to have a final check. Kung ganun pa rin, she'll give me a prescription for hypertension.

So my questions:
1. Bakit ganun? Iba ang kuha nung sa community clinic at dun sa company clinic? Subjective ba ang pagkuha ng BP?
2. For the doctors, what can you say about my case?

Thanks :)

[froshie1]

@alternick

I'm not a doc pero eto ang sagot ko sa BP mo. Iyong BP kasi hindi naman yan constant na kapag for example 120/80 ang nakuha sa iyo 30 mins ago or maski 5 mins ago eh 120/80 pa rin yan sa susunod na pagkuha sa iyo.

ang 130/80 eh normal pa rin iyon. wag ka lang lalagpas sa 140/90. pero para optimal results dapat ma stabilize mo sya ng 120/80 - 90/60 (pero depende itong bp sa mga tao, minsan iyong mga nag 90/60 nahihilo na nilolowblood)

[Papichulo168]

When I was diagnosed with hypertension (due to lifestyle) a year ago during my pre employment checkup I was told to take Coniel (Benizipine HCL) for maintenance. It's my first time to take an antihypertensive drug so I had no basis of comparison but what I can say about Coniel is it was effective for me.

Ask your doctor about it.

Also I've been eating mackerel at least 3X a week and I can really feel significant improvement on my well being.

I also stopped smoking. Cold turkey. Since September '05. Didn't have any cravings.

I'm also going to the gym 4X a week now.

And just recently signed up for boxing.

I'm glad I quit smoking 'coz I wouldn't survive 10 mins of boxing training if I was still smoking.

[purpleshadow]

Hello Doc Ira... just recently we detected n Hblood *** *** BF ko... he's havin an average of 140-150/90-100 bp..mjo ovrweight **** *** around 200-200 lbs *** s height of 5'7" eh..pro *** nmn *** nffeel n **** anung symptoms ng HT eh..Inspite of dis, ng p check up n rn *** s doc and they took blood samples from him and normal nmn dw *** Cholesterol, Creatinine, although *** sugar level dw nya is mlapit n dw s border lyn...

1st month/check-up:
he was given metoprolol 50mg 2x/day, Aspirin and metformin 1x/day.. and was directed to monitor his bp 4 a month and needed undergo on monthly check-up na..

After a month..
ok nmn *** reaction nung body nya s medicines.. *** ave bp nya pg ng take ng medcines is 120-130/80 na...

2nd month/Check-up:
tinanggal ni doc *** aspirin tpos pna continue *** metformin and he doubled d dosage of metoprolol edi ngng 100mg na...After taking d new prescription ayun nhhilo dw *** and we decided n mg stop n *** s gmot kc parang nwaln ako ng trust s capacity ni doc..I hav ds feeling n mali ***... although hnde nmn ako doc..:) kc ok nmn n dun s dting prescription y p ng change s 100mg..

Our question is... is it pocble n normal *** **** *** bp nya na 140-150/90-100?? kc *** brother nya is gnun ** dw *** bp... and as much as pocble ayw nya **** mg take ng medicines kc mdmi ngssbi n he's too young to take those kind of medicnes...nd mjo ng wwory **** ako s bp nya n un..actually he's only 24 yo nga *** ***...

[purpleshadow]

Hello Doc Ira... just recently we detected n Hblood *** *** BF ko... he's havin an average of 140-150/90-100 bp..mjo ovrweight **** *** around 200-200 lbs *** s height of 5'7" eh..pro *** nmn *** nffeel n **** anung symptoms ng HT eh..Inspite of dis, ng p check up n rn *** s doc and they took blood samples from him and normal nmn dw *** Cholesterol, Creatinine, although *** sugar level dw nya is mlapit n dw s border lyn...

1st month/check-up:
he was given metoprolol 50mg 2x/day, Aspirin and metformin 1x/day.. and was directed to monitor his bp 4 a month and needed undergo on monthly check-up na..

After a month..
ok nmn *** reaction nung body nya s medicines.. *** ave bp nya pg ng take ng medcines is 120-130/80 na...

2nd month/Check-up:
tinanggal ni doc *** aspirin tpos pna continue *** metformin and he doubled d dosage of metoprolol edi ngng 100mg na...After taking d new prescription ayun nhhilo dw *** and we decided n mg stop n *** s gmot kc parang nwaln ako ng trust s capacity ni doc..I hav ds feeling n mali ***... although hnde nmn ako doc..:) kc ok nmn n dun s dting prescription y p ng change s 100mg..

Our question is... is it pocble n normal *** **** *** bp nya na 140-150/90-100?? kc *** brother nya is gnun ** dw *** bp... and as much as pocble ayw nya **** mg take ng medicines kc mdmi ngssbi n he's too young to take those kind of medicnes...nd mjo ng wwory **** ako s bp nya n un..actually he's only 24 yo nga *** ***...

[simone_md99]

your bf has high blood pressure. Since namention mo na sa first month eh umokay na yung BP niya then nung nagincrease ng gamot eh nahilo, baka masyado lang na tinaasan yung dosage ng metoprolol niya. I suggest you go back to your doctor para maadjust ulit yung dosage. A BP reading of > or = to 140/90 is already considered hypertensive. At since bata pa yung Bf mo lalo na dapat siyang mamonitor.

[purpleshadow]

thank simone_md99...
napra-praning talaga ko kapag ganito *** topic...:mecry: before naman kc normal *** yung bp nya... actually nakapag-donate pa nga *** ng blood sa red cross for 2 consecutive yrs (2004-2005)...then suddenly hypertensive n *** ***...what kaya yung causes why ganun??is there any possible ways na ma-normalize nya *** BP nya in a natural way???kasi ang concern naman namin is..if he took medicines too early, baka ma-apektuhan naman yung liver nya db??sorry if dito ako ng-aask.. yung doc kasi nya super tamad mag-explain... parang check up *** for 5 mins tpos konting reseta ayun gudbye PF...ending up na feeling nahold-up *** kami...diba dapat kylangan nya mag undergo for some series of test like 2-d echo or ecg???

[passing by]

thank simone_md99...
napra-praning talaga ko kapag ganito *** topic...:mecry: before naman kc normal *** yung bp nya... actually nakapag-donate pa nga *** ng blood sa red cross for 2 consecutive yrs (2004-2005)...then suddenly hypertensive n *** ***...what kaya yung causes why ganun??is there any possible ways na ma-normalize nya *** BP nya in a natural way???kasi ang concern naman namin is..if he took medicines too early, baka ma-apektuhan naman yung liver nya db??sorry if dito ako ng-aask.. yung doc kasi nya super tamad mag-explain... parang check up *** for 5 mins tpos konting reseta ayun gudbye PF...ending up na feeling nahold-up *** kami...diba dapat kylangan nya mag undergo for some series of test like 2-d echo or ecg???

kainis pag ganyan ang doctor..u pay them well, pero di mag explain nang maayos. may mga ibang doctors na hindi agad nagrereseta ng gamot...they would advise the patient to undergo lifestyle change...diet, exercise , less stressful life. pag hindi nagbago for a certain period of time, then further investigation is taken..kolesterol..etcetera..pag normal ang findings, dun lang magrereseta ng gamot....kc baka essential hypertension yan....

mahirap talaga yung under medivation ka..it's a baggage u caccry everyday..nakaka stress din...

my husband is borderline hypertensive. 130/90. his doctor did not give him medication but advised him to maintain a diet and advised daily exercise.

i am alss giving him herbal stuffs and supplements....
well controlled naman ang BP nya....

[mArXiSThaGT]

20yrs old,H-5'6",W-125lbs...my BP is 120/90..normal puh ba or mataas?tnx...

[mrpasaway]

I'm 26 and a certified hypertensive...both my parents too...my father suffered moderate to severe stroke a few years ago..i'm afraid i'll face the same catastrophe..how can i maintain a normal bp..sometimes i take neoblic(metoprolol 50 mg.) if my bp is 130/80 or higher..

[Les]

The first thing to remember is that once you're diagnosed to be hypertensive (a BP greater than 120/80 mmHg on 2 separate occasions), you should start taking maintainance antihypertensives. What maintainance means is that you should take it every day. Filipinos have the nasty habit of taking HPN meds only when they feel symptomatic, e.g. having nape pains, headache, etc. This defeats the purpose of antihypertensives, which is to control your blood pressure to acceptable levels daily. Remember that trying to figure out your BP by symptoms is fraught with danger. You can reach a BP of 200/100 mmHg or more and only start feeling symptoms then. However, a blood vessel in your brain might burst before you even reach that BP, leading to a stroke.

Metoprolol tatrate (Neobloc) is practically the cheapest of the antihypertensive meds. At 50mg, that's only one-half or even one-fourth of the usual dosing. You should protect your health more and start taking it every day.

Be sure that once you're taking your medication regularly, have your blood pressure checked for maybe 3-5 days straight and write it down. This will enable your physician to determine the level of your BP control. If your BP is still too high then the dose might need to be raised, conversely if it's too low then the dose might need to be reduced.

Finally, remember that controlling hypertension is not simply a matter of regular medication. You need to avoid salty foods because it will raise your BP. Furthermore, regular exercise tends to lower your BP and increases your fitness too.

[tabernaclechoir]

I think its a good idea if you could have your cholesterol level in the blood checked. I believe that high cholesterol level can increase bp. An ecg can rule out any possibility of a heart problem

[Angelo937]

try mo daw eating garlic.... yung whole cloves, pwede mo ihalo sa sabaw or sa sawsawan mo. damihan mo... kahit matataba kami hindi gaano kataas yung bp namin... dahil na rin nga sa garlic... malay mo...

[Les]

High cholesterol does not cause hypertension per se. However, hypercholesterolemia/dyslipidemia often occurs concurrently with hypertension and increases the risk of cardiovascular disease. It's a good idea to have a lipid profile done if you haven't had it done before.

[Angelo937]

does eating garlic really work???? minced, chopped for sawsawan, pounded for soups etc...

[ciprofloxacin]

according to the latest guidelines (JNC7), the normal BP is <120/80. It is called pre-hypertension when your BP is 120-139/80-89. Stage I hypertension at 140-159/90-99 and Stage II when >160/100.

130/80 is not yet really hypertension. But you can already start with diet and lifestyle modification, meaning eat less salt and less fat then exercise regularly, less alcohol consumption.

When you reach Stage I, you usually start with a single drug

When you reach Stage II, then, more often than not, a combination of 2 or more drugs.

[reydat]

I'm 26 and a certified hypertensive...both my parents too...my father suffered moderate to severe stroke a few years ago..i'm afraid i'll face the same catastrophe..how can i maintain a normal bp..sometimes i take neoblic(metoprolol 50 mg.) if my bp is 130/80 or higher..

hi mrpasaway! :)

les is right. you should take your maintenance meds daily, if you have been diagnosed with hypertension. and if you are taking the meds daily, check your blood pressure. if it's still high, you might need an increase in the dose or another class of drug.

[Kukuru]

I'm 26 and a certified hypertensive...both my parents too...my father suffered moderate to severe stroke a few years ago..i'm afraid i'll face the same catastrophe..how can i maintain a normal bp..sometimes i take neoblic(metoprolol 50 mg.) if my bp is 130/80 or higher..
Are you overweight ba? Just wanna know the risk markers.

[mrpasaway]

i'm around 130 lbs..di mataba di rin payat..talaga..kailangan ko ng imaintain yung neobloc?btw..i'm also taking other drugs for my depression...nozina, remeron and risperdal..pero di ko naiinom yung last 2 kasi ang mahal..sani ng psych ko di raw ako mahahighblood kung iinumin ko yung dalawa pa..natatakot ako..my grandpa ang my eldest tito sa father's side died of stroke..even my lola sa mother's side nastroke den..tapos i live a sedentary life pa..di kasi ako sporty..besides mahal magkaroon ng sports regimen..tamad pa akong magjog man lang..

[Les]

Do BP monitoring. If indeed your other meds lower your BP to an acceptable value, then you might not need the metoprolol for now.

[layer]

don't forget your urinalysis. you're 26 and you're already hypertensive??? hmmm...

[Mafioso]

layer: why the hmm with someone who's 26 and hypertensive?

I just had my annual checkup and my BP read 130/90...Im taking neobloc as prescribed by my doctor...i was wondering if i completely change my lifestyle and start exercisin again, would that radically lower my BP back to normal? by the way...i just turned 25.

[layer]

most of hypertension is primary, that is, no cause can be found. at younger ages though, we suspect more secondary causes of hypertension, such as renal, cardiac, endocrine causes. or it could be genetic, like if both of your parents are hypertensives. at 130/90, i suggest daily bp monitoring without medications first and lifestyle modification (exercise, low fat, low salt diet, good sleeping habits, weight loss). have an ecg, urinalysis, chest x-ray, lipid, and fasting blood sugar done). if your daily bp turns out to be persistently high, that's when you take your metoprolol.

[ciprofloxacin]

may i know your highest bp and your usual bp?

[capuccino]

hi!
Advise nyo naman po ako anything about high blood kasi yung mother ko. Umiinom pa sya ng gamot (lifezar), no salty and fatty foods, walang oil talaga ang kinakain nya. ang problema naman namin sobrang payat na nya dahil napakonti ng kinakain nya. at madalas mapula ang mata nya, grabe din ang pawis kahit hindi masyadong maiinit, worried na kami kasi parang abnormal talaga. 48 na sya.nagkaroon kasi sya ng operation last year sa myoma then nag brain zeisure (convulsion) 2 days after operation. tapos until now, high blood na sya.

:(

thanks a lot!!!

[Les]

Your mother should seek a consult with a doctor as soon as possible because the symptoms you described (diaphoresis, anorexia, weight loss) aren't typical of hypertension. There are several diseases that can present with such symptoms; have her see a doctor so the appropriate workups/diagnostics can be done.

[capuccino]

^thanks.
actually I am so worried, minsan di na ko natutulog.

[capuccino]

may lungs problem sya

[the_apprentice]

ako high blood! nag prescribe sakin ng gamot

[Les]

ako high blood! nag prescribe sakin ng gamot

Make sure you have lifestyle modifications to go along with it. Have a low fat, low-salt diet, avoid smoking, have regular exercise. :)

[passing by]

my husband's BP is normal pag nasa warm climate...when in cold areas (as in Baguio) tumataas BP nya. is it advisable to take medication only pag nasa cold places siya.

help..we are now in a vacation abroad and it's a bit cold here. we were not able to bring hypertensive drug. could he take losartam potassium (combizar), it's the mediaction of my father who is here with us too. my husband's BP is 160/100... mahal kasi magpatsek up **....

advise please....

[smilewarrior]

^Hello. Please wait for the reply of the physicians.

Physicians and dentists in the Philippines undercharge. It is something that really becomes evident when you have yourself treated at another country.

If your husband's blood pressure goes any higher, you might need to go the emergency room of a hospital.

More details please:
How old is your husband?
What is your husband's usual blood pressure reading?
What is your husband's occupation?
When was the last time he drank his medicine?
What medicine does he usually take for his blood pressure?
When was the most recent of your husband to his physician?
How are you monitoring your husband's blood pressure now?

Please monitor/change his diet:
1. No beef or pork, just fish
2. Reduce the amount of salt
3. No alcoholic beverages
4. No, these cannot take the place of your husband's blood pressure medication, but you might want to seriously consider incorporating Fresh Bananas (which contain potassium, please avoid deep fried or processed bananas, they need to be fresh) into your husbands daily diet.

If you were my wife, I'd sincerely appreciate it if you brough me to the nearest doctor to have my blood pressure managed. Never mind the vacation, my life is a lot more important.

[aescupulus]

^ well said , smilewarrior

DO NOT GIVE the other person's medication to your husband.
See the nearest doctor first or cut your vacation short and come home na lang sa pinoyMD.

[PinoySaKSA]

Since I was in early 20s, in every occasion that I had to get my BP checked, it was 100/130... hanggang until now that I reached 30s. about a year ago, I consulted a cardio here in KSA as I often hear my heartbeat tapos when I lie down, I feel like my bed was moving... kasi parang nadadaganan ko *** nerves ko.... parang ganun...

so, my bp was 130/100... mataas daw un sabi ng doctor and he prescribed some anti-hypertensive meds... more than a year na na i am taking the meds... my bp got better, sometimes, 120/90, minsan 120/80.. my meds was also modified dahil mataas pa rin daw *** 90... ayos na raw *** 120...

i once asked my doctor kung kailan ko maititigil ang meds ko... until I die na raw *** meds ko... it's kind of depressing....

tama nga ba yun? once you take the hypertensive meds you'll have to take it forever..

[froshie1]

^Most likely pards yes. Unless your life is stress free and body is very healthy.

[aescupulus]

Since I was in early 20s, in every occasion that I had to get my BP checked, it was 100/130... hanggang until now that I reached 30s. about a year ago, I consulted a cardio here in KSA as I often hear my heartbeat tapos when I lie down, I feel like my bed was moving... kasi parang nadadaganan ko *** nerves ko.... parang ganun...

so, my bp was 130/100... mataas daw un sabi ng doctor and he prescribed some anti-hypertensive meds... more than a year na na i am taking the meds... my bp got better, sometimes, 120/90, minsan 120/80.. my meds was also modified dahil mataas pa rin daw *** 90... ayos na raw *** 120...

i once asked my doctor kung kailan ko maititigil ang meds ko... until I die na raw *** meds ko... it's kind of depressing....

tama nga ba yun? once you take the hypertensive meds you'll have to take it forever..

130/100 is borderline hypertension, 140/90 being the "cut-off".
Do you know what's causing your hypertension? what meds are you taking? Hypertension is not a disease or "sakit", it's only a symptom, meaning something must be wrong "inside" the body to cause your BP to rise.
Picture your body as a car, the engine (heart) pumping the fuel/gas/oil to circulate around the mechanism (body) for it to run smoothly. But when your oil (blood) gets thick with dirt (cholesterol/sugar/salts/etc) or they may be blockage on the hose/tube (veins/arteries), the engine exerts extra effort to pump away, hence causing the mechanism to overheat (high blood). So the point being, were you ever checked for diabetes (too much sugar in blood), cholesterol (too much "sebo" in blood), uric acid (too much salt in blood), etc? chest xray and 12L ECG? If you could pinpoint whats causing your hypertension, maybe then we could treat that first, then maybe the hypertension will go away. If all your lab.tests are within normal limits, maybe then we can say "yes, you may have to take antihypertensives for the rest of your life". On another note, you may try to alter your lifestyle, lose weight, healthy habits, less stress.

[froshie1]

Mga docs eto may question ko. totoo po ba na tinaasan na ang standards when it comes to determining if a person has High BP or not? narinig ko lang kasi ito sa company nurse. sabi nya ang borderline ay nasa 120/80 na. eh diba dati ang border line or Stage 1 hypertension ay nasa 140/90 anything below it is normal basta hindi bababa ng 90/60?

[aescupulus]

borderline is still 140/90mmHg.

>120/80mmHg is "prehypertensive" or high normal and would be advised to restrict salt intake, start a healthy lifestyle, etc. to avoid rising up to Stage 1 HPN.

[thelmel72]

i'm 35 yrs old and my father, grandfather and auntie died of stroke due hypertension. ako po ngayon ay hypertensive din at may maintenance na tinitake lifezar 100mg at norvasc 10mg na prescribed ng doctor ko. na test na ang blood chem ko ang mataas sa akin ay yung cholesterol nasa 223 at LDL 156. sa Dalawang medication ko ang bp ko ay uncontrolled parin 160/100 baba man ito 140/100 kaya nararamdaman ko parin ang pag sakit ng ulo ko. Ano po bang dahilan at hindi mapababa ang bp ko. dalawang doctor na napuntahan ko pinalitan *** yung dosage ko at yung dating amvasc ginawang norvasc ng pangalawa kung doctor na nagbigay ng suki card ng pfizer.

[aescupulus]

errr, where's your medications for your high cholesterol? As long as your cholesterol and LDL levels are high, you will still be hypertensive. Lifezar and Norvasc are antihypertensive drugs. Please see an Internist to prescribe medications to control your cholesterol, don't forget to ask on diet restrictions, weight reduction, etc. You also need constant monitoring of your cholesterol levels to check if your levels have gone down to normal. Maybe then, when your blood has less "sebo", your BP will also normalize.

[tokwaeater]

im 41 years old

one time my bp was 120/90, di raw normal yun? sabi ng nag check ng bp ko

but sometimes nag papacheck up ako normal naman daw ang 120 / 90 sabi ng nurse?

aano ba talaga? normal ba ang 120/90 o hinde? i'm taking up neobloc 100mg as prescribed by my doctor

help ano ba talaga normal ba ang 120 / 90?

[Tjmd]

120/90 is not normal based on the JNC VII classification of blood pressure levels. This is already stage I hypertension.
Aside from the neobloc, i would advise having a good dietary plan, more vegetables and fiber. Less meat/fats. Avoid butter and margarine like the plaque. Exercise is also a must.

[angel_11]

hi! im 21 years old. my usual BP is 90/70. my mom is hypertensive, my dad is diabetic. I had an abnormal vaginal bleeding last year, and my blood count was low. I haven't seen my OB since the bleeding stopped.
I'm starting to work in grave yard shift and i'm worrying if i'll survive with this BP. i read that my BP is within the normal range, but isn't it critical low?
any vitamins or supplements can you recommend? thanks.

[altec chancing]

One thing about blood pressure is that it varies everyday according to your current emotion, position, and activity. It never stays constant.

With regards to the aggressive standard set on blood pressure, I think that's overkill. At 120/80 already prehypertensive? Then, I can safely say that 98% of the world population are prehypertensive.

What are the pharma companies trying to do? Sell more drugs?

lol

[smilewarrior]

^I don't think it's aggressive at all.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m291/joeshimura/Hypertension.jpg

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m291/joeshimura/Hypertension2.jpg

[froshie1]

mga peeps gaano ba kasama ang sinasabing high blood?

Katulad kasi, aware ako na kapag nagexercise ang isang tao na healthy (walang hypertension) tumataas ang bp nya diba? Ang tanong gaano ito kataas? Pwede bang tumaas ng 140/90 or 130/85 ang isang tao na healthy pag nag eexercise ito?

Another question, paano kung sakaling ang isang tao whether healthy or may hypertension biglang nalungkot or nagalit diba tataas din ang BP let say naging 140/90 ang bp. Tapos tumagal ito ng 5 to 10 minutes na ganun ang bp nya and then after nun bumaba to normal levels, masama po ba iyon sa katawan?

[Tjmd]

I do not totally agree with the JNC classification. This is American standards and this is different with the philippine setting. Unfortunately we do have a habit of applying american data in to the local health system. Americans are getting bigger and bigger/obese and the rate of diabetes in the US is growing too. As a result they are applying a much higher precaution and setting the alarm bells at a lower tolerance. Although the philippines is "approaching" the american lifestyle. We are not americans and do not have the same dietary lifestyle as they do. The bottom line still is to eat healthy...regardless of the BP classification, you do not have to worry about high blood pressure if you have been living a healthier lifestyle.

[marbles]

mga peeps gaano ba kasama ang sinasabing high blood?

Katulad kasi, aware ako na kapag nagexercise ang isang tao na healthy (walang hypertension) tumataas ang bp nya diba? Ang tanong gaano ito kataas? Pwede bang tumaas ng 140/90 or 130/85 ang isang tao na healthy pag nag eexercise ito?

Another question, paano kung sakaling ang isang tao whether healthy or may hypertension biglang nalungkot or nagalit diba tataas din ang BP let say naging 140/90 ang bp. Tapos tumagal ito ng 5 to 10 minutes na ganun ang bp nya and then after nun bumaba to normal levels, masama po ba iyon sa katawan?

An important point to note is that blood pressure can be affected by disease conditions (kidney, heart, and lung problems, etc.), stress (can be emotional, physical like exercise, etc.), medications, etc.

It's normal for a person's BP to rise with exercise because the body requires more blood to supply the working muscles, your heart and lungs work faster, you arteries carry more blood, while your veins remove the deoxygenated blood used by your muscles.

It's also normal for one's BP to drop (as in the case of neurogenic shock -- some cases of "hinihimatay") or rise with emotional stress due to the release of catecholamines and neurotransmitters which can exert their effects on your cardiovascular system.

The key factor in the 2 situations you've mentioned is that BP returns to normal after exercise and with removal of the stress factor.

Hypertension is a condition wherein the person has persistent/continuous elevated blood pressure in the absence of exercise, stress, etc.

If one is diagnosed to be hypertensive, and it becomes uncontrolled or untreated, the person is at risk (meaning may possibility na magkaroon siya) of developing:

stroke (aka brain attack)
ischemic heart disease which can lead to heart attack
kidney diseases which can lead to kidney failure
blindness (due to blockage of retinal vessels)
aortic aneurysm (can lead to dissection-- where the wall of the aorta ruptures causing fatal massive hemorrhage)

Of course there are other disease conditions not mentioned here.

[marbles]

hi! im 21 years old. my usual BP is 90/70. my mom is hypertensive, my dad is diabetic. I had an abnormal vaginal bleeding last year, and my blood count was low. I haven't seen my OB since the bleeding stopped.
I'm starting to work in grave yard shift and i'm worrying if i'll survive with this BP. i read that my BP is within the normal range, but isn't it critical low?
any vitamins or supplements can you recommend? thanks.

A person's BP is specific for that person. While 90/70 can be abnormal for some people, for others it's within their normal range. If it's your usual BP, it's within your normal range.

Get adequate sleep after your shift. Eat healthy. You can take any vitamins or supplements you like.

[marbles]

im 41 years old

one time my bp was 120/90, di raw normal yun? sabi ng nag check ng bp ko

but sometimes nag papacheck up ako normal naman daw ang 120 / 90 sabi ng nurse?

aano ba talaga? normal ba ang 120/90 o hinde? i'm taking up neobloc 100mg as prescribed by my doctor

help ano ba talaga normal ba ang 120 / 90?

Your diastolic BP is not normal. Check Tjmd's post.

[froshie1]

to all the docs thanks.

btw doc marbles tama po ba pagkaintindi ko. iyong pagiging persistent na elevated BP ay wala talagang specific time frame? let say 30 minutes of elevated BP or 10 minutes elevated BP?

[marbles]

to all the docs thanks.

btw doc marbles tama po ba pagkaintindi ko. iyong pagiging persistent na elevated BP ay wala talagang specific time frame? let say 30 minutes of elevated BP or 10 minutes elevated BP?

Persistent (in the context of hypertension) refers to elevated BP (greater than 120/80) 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Even at rest.

[the_BuGs]

ako medyo nabaliw last year.... nuong nagpa check up ako High blood daw ako 130/90..then tinakot na ako ng doktor.. shempre ako natakot din....pero hindi pa ako uminom ng gamot... kasi pag uwi ko sa bahay 120/80 naman ako...pero sa doktor mataas :D so medyo worried... that time kasi kaka stop ko pa lang mag smoke (1 year na akond hindi nag smo=smoke yes! :lol: )... shempre sa takot ko nagpaiba ako ng hospital... sa doctor naman na yun ang taas 160/90 daw...eh inexplain ko sa bahay ok naman... tapos nag ECG, kinunan ng dugo ok naman...kaya sabi ng isang nurse parang may white collar syndrome daw ako.....eh gusto akong resetahan na ng gamot hindi ako pumayag so sabi ng doktor bibigyan nya ako ng device na 24 hrs checking ng BP eh medyo may kamahalaan daw yun at magpaalam sa company namin... nuong pumunta na ako sa accounts asking for approval... hindi pumayag as usual...tapos sinabihan ba naman akong... hindi ko daw kailangan yun... dahil lahat ng empleyado na nagpako-konsulta duon eh High Blood!...eh paano naman ang tirik tirik ng araw (tag init kasi nun) maglalakad ka papunta duon sabay kukuhanan ka ng BP.. eh talagang tataaas daw yun........mag exercise lang daw ako at papayat... so shempre ganon na lang ginawa ko.... niresetahan pa ako ng anti depressant nuon....pero 4 na araw ko lang hindi tinuloy dahil nakakapraning :lol: then ilang months akong hindi nagpa BP at bumalik sa doktor puro papayat at puro worried nasa isip ko... so nuong umuwi ako ng Pinas last december.. nagpacheck up na ako at nagpakuha ng dugo eh yung doctor hypertension specialist din... mataas ang uric acid.. cholesterol at triglycerides hindi naman ganoon kataas... lumagpas lang ng kaunting digit sa normal pero uminom pa rin ng gamot... at yung BP ko? ayon sa doctor normal daw... then nagpabalik pa ako ng weekly ok naman.... pero sabi sa akin magpapayat daw ako nuong timbangin nya kasi ako 97 kilos that time.... btw dati 110 kilos ako last year.... now 91 kilos na... pero after that hindi pa ako nagpa BP ulit.

[Boxing Judge]

Hello people!

What brand/kind of Blood Pressure measuring device do you recommend for home use? And how much? I'm on a budget.

Thanks!

[marbles]

Hello people!

What brand/kind of Blood Pressure measuring device do you recommend for home use? And how much? I'm on a budget.

Thanks!

If you have someone who knows how to use a sphygmomanometer (aka BP apparatus), then you can buy an aneroid type, either ALPK or Baxter. Costs 800-1k at Bambang. Then buy a light stethoscope.

You can also try electronic BP measuring devices. It's recommended to use those that measure BP using the upper arm, not the wrist or finger. It's also available in Bambang but it'll probably cost around 2k.

[passing by]

i wasnt able to reply this message....
thanks for the advise.
i heeded them.
(no, i didnt cut my vacation though, he he he)

i just kept my husband on a diet,
walked with him at least 30 minutes everyday.
relaxed. read good books.

when we came back to the Philipines, i had him checked
a number of times and he had normal BP readings....

^Hello. Please wait for the reply of the physicians.

Physicians and dentists in the Philippines undercharge. It is something that really becomes evident when you have yourself treated at another country.

If your husband's blood pressure goes any higher, you might need to go the emergency room of a hospital.

More details please:
How old is your husband?
What is your husband's usual blood pressure reading?
What is your husband's occupation?
When was the last time he drank his medicine?
What medicine does he usually take for his blood pressure?
When was the most recent of your husband to his physician?
How are you monitoring your husband's blood pressure now?

Please monitor/change his diet:
1. No beef or pork, just fish
2. Reduce the amount of salt
3. No alcoholic beverages
4. No, these cannot take the place of your husband's blood pressure medication, but you might want to seriously consider incorporating Fresh Bananas (which contain potassium, please avoid deep fried or processed bananas, they need to be fresh) into your husbands daily diet.

If you were my wife, I'd sincerely appreciate it if you brough me to the nearest doctor to have my blood pressure managed. Never mind the vacation, my life is a lot more important.

[sTaRter_01]

where can i buy some garlic tablets? and how much because i was diagnosed to have a hypertension thanks guys!

[smilewarrior]

^Dude, garlic tablets will not cure your hypertension. Please have yourself checked by an Internist.

[brye_fourteen]

question lang sa mga doctors here yung tatay ng friend ko hypertensive nagtatake siya ng amvasc 5mg at cardiosel nahihirapan na sila bumili ng gamot gusto ko tumulong meron ako nakita dito sa house namin gamot cibacen 5mg pwede ba ipalit yung cibacen sa amvasc ? madaming salamat sa advice

[bleudsky_md]

tell your friend to buy meds using the generic names, not the brand names since may ibang meds na mas mura (but the same ang generic).

ilang mg yung cibacen mo? it's wiser if you ask/consult your friend's cardiologist (kung meron). i can suggest but i'm not in authority to tell your friend's father what to take, because of unprofessional conduct.

[dook3]

Lipid Profile of a 61 y/o, M, No symptoms:
LDL- 127.9 mg/dl
HDL - 35.4
Tri - 52 mg/dl
Chole - 174 mg/dl

FBS - 112 mg/dl

Pa-interpret please. thanks!

[Aquaman]

I read in some books and some internet sites that black tea will help people with high blood. Kind of ironic because it has twice the caffeine of coffee. But they say it only cause the blood pressure to rise temporarily. The contenets of black tea repairs the damaged walls of artery and gets rid of plaques.

Last time they checked my blood pressure it was 150/100. Before that 130/91.

[smilewarrior]

^ Dude, that's most likely not true. Please have yourself checked by an Internist. Preferably, your blood pressure should be lower.

I'm not a medical doctor, I'm a dentist, but I do know that these will help:

1. Eat fresh, uncooked bananas regularly. Bananas can help, but they can never take the place of your hypertension medication.

2. Stop consuming patis, if you happen to be fond of patis. Restrict or completely discontinue your use of soy sauce

3. Restrict your salt intake

4. Eat more fish or white chicken meat, you need to completely stop consuming pork, lamb, beef, etc. ( christmas pa naman, pero bawal ang hamon)

5. Change your cooking oil, use olive oil or even canola oil if you can. You may need to restrict your consumption of fried foods

6. Exercise regularly, 3 to 4 times a week would be good, 5 or more times a week would be better

High blood pressure can eventually predispose you to either a stroke or a heart attack, so please see your doctor ASAP.

[froshie1]

I read in some books and some internet sites that black tea will help people with high blood. Kind of ironic because it has twice the caffeine of coffee. But they say it only cause the blood pressure to rise temporarily. The contenets of black tea repairs the damaged walls of artery and gets rid of plaques.

Last time they checked my blood pressure it was 150/100. Before that 130/91.

150/100 is > 130/91. Anyway, maski na alin man sa dalawa high blood yan pre.

Pacheck ka men sa isang competent na cardiologist. Kung mabibilang mo salt intake mo dapat hanggang 2k to 2500 mg a day ka lang of sodium.

Eat ka ng prutas especially iyong mataas sa potassium, eat garlic pero wag mong iisipin na medicine ang garlic. nakaka baba ang garlic ng ilang points pero hindi ito medicine.

Black Tea ba kamo? Eh pinagbabawal ako ng doctor ko uminom ng tea kasi nakaka palpitate ito same as coffee. Paconsulta ka sa doc pre.

[Tjmd]

regular non-strenuous exercise at least 3x/week.

More green leafy veggies and fruits in place of red meat.

im not totally discounting the good effects of tea on hypertensive patients. Flavonoids are responsible for the good effect likewise tea acts as a mild diuretic. Studies are still lacking though.

better switch to a good healthy lifestyle. BP meds are very expensive.

[rubberdickey]

Doc ask ko lang po kasi my father have BP of 150/90 and was advice by his Dr. to take vascor 5mg and cinnarizine 25mg. Tama po ba yong binigay ng doctor niya na gamot. Atsaka ok po ba yong oatmeal and pineapple juice para sa kanya. Please advice kasi medjo worried ako. Maraming Salamat..

[Altwegg]

Hypertensive patients need close follow-up to ensure that the medications given to them are effective. Follow first what was prescribed and have dietary and/or lifestyle changes. If you think the medications are not performing well, you may address it to your father's doctor.

[marbles]

Doc ask ko lang po kasi my father have BP of 150/90 and was advice by his Dr. to take vascor 5mg and cinnarizine 25mg. Tama po ba yong binigay ng doctor niya na gamot. Atsaka ok po ba yong oatmeal and pineapple juice para sa kanya. Please advice kasi medjo worried ako. Maraming Salamat..

Please follow the advice of your father's doctor. Inform his doctor if he experiences any adverse effects with his medications. It's up to his doctor if he/she will modify the treatment regimen if your dad's bp is not controlled by the 5mg daily dose.

oatmeal and pineapple juice would be ok.

[rav7118]

gandang umaga po.

i just turn 50 last month. hypertensive na po ako since '84. am now taking atenolol (50mg) daily at mostly 120/80 bp ko (pero minsan nagiging 140/90). problem ko ngayon is my weight. for the past years pataas ito ng pataas. am now 142 lbs pero 5' lang po height ko. sedentary po lifestyle ko (gising ng 4 or 5am - luto ng almusal at assist sa kids pagpasok tapos pasok na po sa work before 7am at uuwi sa bahay ng 8:30pm). sa weekend po ay paglalaba, paglilinis ng bahay/car at ibang errands ang inaasikaso at wala po talaga ako exercise. lately, kahit na paglalaba/paglilinis ng bahay eh napapagod na ako. i want to loose weight pero di ko alam kung anong exercise pwede sa pagiging hypertensive ko (takot po ako na mag-stress test kasi baka atakihin ako dito). paumanhin po sa haba ng post. marami pong salamat sa mga magiging payo/comment ninyo.

[JazonEsti]

Have you asked your doctor about it?

But I think long walks (20-30 minutes 2-3x per week) and controlled diet should help you.

[rav7118]

Have you asked your doctor about it?

But I think long walks (20-30 minutes 2-3x per week) and controlled diet should help you.

thanks jason for the tip pero dahil nga sa daily sked ko wala akong time during weekday for a 20-30 mins walk. kung weekend baka pa pwede pero makakasapat na kaya ito para mag-loose ako ng weight? :confused:

[JazonEsti]

I'm a non-practicing Physical Therapist, by the way, I opted to do importation business. But let me help you.

Let's see. In the office, you can:
1. Ascend/Descend the stairs instead of taking the elevator.
2. Park your car a little further from the office so you have to walk further.
3. Walk faster.
4. If you have free time in the office, you can skip rope or jumping jack (try to do this in a well ventilated/airconditioned room so you won't have to sweat hard).
5. Avoid high-calorie food especially snacks.
6. Bring your own baon of highly nutritious but low calorie food.

I think that's all I can advise for now. Let me think of more ways. It's been a while since I gave weight-loss strategies in the office.

[froshie1]

gandang umaga po.

i just turn 50 last month. hypertensive na po ako since '84. am now taking atenolol (50mg) daily at mostly 120/80 bp ko (pero minsan nagiging 140/90). problem ko ngayon is my weight. for the past years pataas ito ng pataas. am now 142 lbs pero 5' lang po height ko. sedentary po lifestyle ko (gising ng 4 or 5am - luto ng almusal at assist sa kids pagpasok tapos pasok na po sa work before 7am at uuwi sa bahay ng 8:30pm). sa weekend po ay paglalaba, paglilinis ng bahay/car at ibang errands ang inaasikaso at wala po talaga ako exercise. lately, kahit na paglalaba/paglilinis ng bahay eh napapagod na ako. i want to loose weight pero di ko alam kung anong exercise pwede sa pagiging hypertensive ko (takot po ako na mag-stress test kasi baka atakihin ako dito). paumanhin po sa haba ng post. marami pong salamat sa mga magiging payo/comment ninyo.

nasabi na ni JazonEsti ang masasabi ko lang bisitahin mo ang cardiologist mo. Malamang meron ka ng cardiologist at this time kung wala pa, hanap ka and make sure eto iyong doctor na competent at magiging magaan ang loob mo sa kanya. Iyong tipong pagnakita mo sya eh wala kang aalalahanin dahil sya ang doctor mo at tutulungan ka nyang gumaling. May mga iba kasing doctor na nananakot at hindi natin kailangan ang mga ganoon na doctor.

Sa stress test wag ka matakot kasi una bago ka bigyan ng stress test ay iaayon naman iyon sa kakayahan mo at mayrong mga doctor na naka abang doon sakaling kailanganin mo sila besides wag ka talaga magaalala kasi ang ibibigay sa iyo ay iyong naayon sa iyong capacity. Doon mo din malalaman kung anong klaseng exercise ang pupwede sa inyo and syempre with the help of your doctor. Magpa 2D-Echo din kayo, request nyo sa doctor ninyo.

[Dunedain]

Dang! Way too many folks assume this-and-that will cure their hypertension. Here's something that one of my buddies did after being diagnosed with Stage-2 Hypertension just after New Year's (after all that goodness of eating and drinking).

After a brief check-up due to his insurance policy, he was shocked to find that his blood pressure was 200/120. 200/120! That's practically a walking time bomb! He can have a stroke anytime. Immediately, he went to his primary doctor.

He was perscribed to take medication. EXFORGE (http://www.exforge.com/index.jsp) if I remember correctly (this isn't an over the counter drug so don't assume how many milligrams or how often the dosage is). He was given by the doctor 3 bottles of samples (each bottle contains 7 tablets - once a day). There are side effects but his are mild headaches. Alongside, he drastically changed his eating habits. He stopped going to fast food joints, completely dropped the salt habit (any form of salt like toyo, patis, terriyaki sauce - practically anything that has a sodium content of more than 15%), stopped drinking sodas (all of it, then switched to tea and plain water), now refused to eat pork or any meat that has a wee bit of fat (except for chicken breast), literally tossed in the garbage bin everything tagged as INSTANT (ie. noodles). In a week, he was able to bring down his blood pressure to something like 140/90. Dang! That was a big change from 200/120. Doctor even perscribed him some medication with regards to cholesterol. He was also instructed to stay away from sugar (but he switched to Splenda), alcohol (even if a glass of red wine is supposed to be good for the heart), and salt (this is the real killer).

Nowadays, he joins me on walking during evenings (roughly 3 miles). He's even purchased a stationary bicycle and he'd be on it for an hour everyday. He's even got those automatic blood pressure devices where he checks himself every morning and evenings. After chatting with him last night, he's got two more months of continuous medication before doctor checks him again (yes, they'd even go down to blood, urine, and saliva sample just to see everything). So far, he's on the right track to health. I even took my blood pressure last night. It was 120/70. Not bad.

Most likely, he'll be under medication for the rest of his life as well as on a strict diet. No more pork products, no more salt, no more soda, no more alcohol, no more instant food, no more preservatives. He's practically taking it seriously, and he's doing pretty well.

Anyone wants to bring down their blood pressure after being diagnosed with High Blood Pressure (even if it's in the early stages)? Simple: Go see your doctor. Never assume anything. For all you know, you might be drinking rat poison or will likely suffer an overdose.

Exercise regularly even if it's just walking (sex is actually the best form of exercise since the entire body works out, and you work out a sweat - next to swimming, that is). Stay away from salt (forever, if possible) - this includes patis, toyo, terriyaki sauce, anything that has high contents of sodium. Consume less sugar. Drink water as much you can (8 glasses a day is the minimum to wash out the gunk inside your system). If possible, plain carrot juice since carrots promotes better blood circulation and they're good for the eyes (I mix it with orange juice, lemon zest, and lemon juice - yummy and it's packed with Vitamin C). Bacon and eggs for breakfast sounds yummy, but a bowl of cereal with slices of fruits carries lesser cholesterol. Plus it's also good for the heart. Vices like alcohol and smoking doesn't really make you cool, but it does hasten the probability of being 6-feet under and pushing daisies. Vegetable oil maybe cheaper than olive oil, but which one will serve your body more? You decide.

Just in case someone asks if I'm a health-nut, I'd say "not entirely". I still eat a good steak once a month (or eat anything tagged as unhealthy for that matter). But I do regularly eat rabbit food. I dabble with salads a lot (European Spring salad is better than the American salad). Balsamic vinegar offers 0% sodium as well as 0% cholesterol - great for them leafy greens. Instead of bacon bits, I'd settle for feta cheese and croutons. If I get a BLT sandwich, I'd toss the "B". If I make a burger (as in making my own burger patties), I'm using turkey meat. If I do fry something, I'm using olive oil. Snacks? A good fruit will beat potato chips anytime. Heck, I even have a 6-year old who enjoys dipping toasted French bread in extra virgin olive oil and Balsamic vinegar - beats eating them snacks in a bag. Garlic butter? Here's a good one. Screw the butter. Just shove bulbs of garlic (chop off the top but don't damage the cloves) drizzled with olive oil in an oven for 10-12 minutes. Pull them out, let it cool, then you have the garlic so soft that it's practically butter. Garlic's good for the heart.

Here's a funny moment. Do stationary cycling while playing a driving game on a game console (regardless if it's an Xbox or a Playstation). You get a work out and get a scenery. Heck, you might be even doing the laundry on the washing machine and dryer as well as doing the dishes in the dishwasher. That's more than 3 tasks altogether and you're still healthy.

Here's a good tip on groceries: If you see the sodium content of any food product that's more than 15% - put it back. Just put it back. They sound tasty, but high blood pressure is a silent killer.

Funny philosophy on eating that most folks don't even bother to consider: Anything that's tasty are usually bad, but whatever tastes bad is usually good for you. Probably not all but in general.

Enjoy life. Stay healthy. *okay*

[archerguy]

^Great story. I'm happy for your friend..he seems really determined. I hope I can do the same thing. I'm under medication right now, but I know I can do better in controlling my hpn. :)

[webnatic]

Good day to all PE'ers. I need your help, I'm getting a bit desperate. My doctor prescibed Combizar 100mg for my hypertension. Problem is, I need 270 pieces of them, since I have to go onboard a ship (I'm a seafarer, BTW). Since I've been here for quite sometime, can somebody suggest a Med Rep who can give discounts/free samples? My last med rep previously gave free samples (around 90 of them) as long as I will buy the remaining 150 pieces in Mercury, but she's not in charge of Combizar anymore. And, I'm a bit embarrassed to say this, but maybe can I pay a post-dated check? So that I can clear my medical and can leave asap. My spouse will take care of the check once I leave. Please PM me for replies. Thank you very much.

[webnatic]

All's well that ends well. I was able to get the prescribed number of meds for my hypertension. :)

[Dunedain]

^Great story. I'm happy for your friend..he seems really determined. I hope I can do the same thing. I'm under medication right now, but I know I can do better in controlling my hpn. :)

Neighbor's blood pressure was (last night as he told me) 119/67. Holy crap! Much lower than mine (122/71). But that's the reading from a home version of a digital BP monitor which is not entirely accurate. Although, it's enough to provide a ballpark figure. Damn. I'd better lay off the oyster sauce and clam chowder.

[trizex]

sometimes i'm experiencing chest pain and blurring of visions, my tita (nurse) said baka daw dahil sa iniinom kong diet pills, itigil ko na daw.. hinde ko pa na-checheck ang bp ko.. ano pong dapat gawin?

[Dunedain]

Go see a doctor rather than asking in here.

[FBI]

Well, when I had a medical check up I had elevated blood pressure of 160/90. Probably because I was in a hurry and pressured at that time because I'm late for an appointment. My blood pressure has always been 120/80. But, I got so nervous and I didn't know why my blood pressure went up so high suddenly. I checked again, it was always 160/90. I went to the doc, and he check my bp and it was 150/90. He told me to relax and told me to do some breathing technique. He checked my bp after doing that, and I got 130/70. He told I'm just stressed up. Probably I'm just freaked out of my recent blood pressure readings. Stress can always do that so every time I checked my bp and I'm always nervous because I'm always worried that the results might be still high. I'm like a nervous wreck always checking my bp every hour. So, I just stopped and I can't living on this way.

I bought Magnesium supplement at 400mg / day to relax me and after several months or so, I checked my bp again and its soaring to a healthy 110/70 - 115/68 at rest, sometimes 120/80 if doing some work. I went to Makati med and it was reading at 110/80. At least my digital bp monitor is accurate.

On top of that, I stopped eating junk foods, sodas, and anything containing MSG and preservatives. Water and natural food is the only food that I will eat. I always check the labels. I exercise 3x times a week and I never entertain thoughts which could stress me up and just takes things easy. :)

My conclusion: I never had high blood pressure to start with. It was my stressed up condition which led me to believe that I had high blood pressure. Every time I checked, it was always high because I was always nervous every time I check my bp.

Anyway, the diet change and the mag supplement helped me reduce my bp by 10 points! The lowest reading I got was 107/65. I also reduced my resting heart rate from 75 bpm to 66 bpm, most probably due to exercise.

[guo_mei_xin]

I was just wondering if I need to see a doctor about this? When I checked the net kasi, sabi kailangan proper exercise, walk sa fresh air, drink beet juice, so I'm not sure if I do these stuff, ok na.

Or maybe I should also have my blood tested?

If kailangan ko magpa-doctor, what kind of specific doctor kailangan?

Also, ano ba ang beet juice?

[matulis]

what is your blood pressure?

[guo_mei_xin]

last time I checked, last december yun. 30/80. minsa yun 30 nagiging40, pero nasa range na 30-40. tapos yun 80, minsan 70 or 90. yun nagpacheck ako dati ob, kinuha din blood pressure ko, mababa din sabi nila. nung pumunta ako sa acupunturist, nagpatest din ako, sabi mababa din.

Uric acid ko kasi mataas, 3 points higher than the maximum value, yun kaya ang cause?

[K_r_a_m]

I would assume that your BP range is from 70-90/40-30. Do you feel any symptoms or discomfort? Do your parents have the same BP? You can seek a general practitioner or a cardiologist. Several laboratory and ancillary exams will be done to rule out any cause of your low BP.

[guo_mei_xin]

may existing post na pala.

Siguro dizziness, but it only started last year, mga June. It happens mga once a month. hindi na sobrang dizzy, yun parang minsan nakatayo ako doing simple things, tapos feel ko parang umikot yun surrounding ko. Mom ko high blood pressure naman, but feel ko dahil sa work niya. Thanks sa advice! I'll probably go to a cardiologist siguro.

[ejosef]

80-90/60-70 is not unusual for young and thin persons, and this should not be a problem, except when there are symptoms, such as dizziness or weakness -- which should then be grounds for consultation with your doctor.

In the meantime, I suggest a balanced diet, and try to eat food rich in Calcium, Magnesium, Potassium, as well as Iron, Vit. B and C, as these play significant roles in the regulation of blood pressure. And of course, regular exercise. :)

[guo_mei_xin]

^thanks! kaso hindi ako thin hehehe average lang. I think more on lack of exercise ako. pero pa-check na rin ako to be sure

[gentle_touchee]

when i was in my early 20's, i was diagnosed being hypertensive. usually my bp would be from 140/100 something like that. doctor prescribed norvasc (2.5mg) and lipitor (also 2.5mg). been taking it religiously since. he also prescribed Catapres (half tablet) in emergencies *that is when my bp daw hits 170 and above).

is this alright> been taking em for 3 years now,

[K_r_a_m]

^^ Do you have any other diseases? Are you still taking Lipitor up to now? Anti-hypertensive medications are designed to be maintained for life. They can be of benefit if used for long term treatment. If your BP still elevates despite your religious taking of medications, it would be wise to go back to your doctor to adjust the necessary dosage you need.

[brass]

Sorry to interrupt, I also just need some advise please:

I consider my self to be athletic. I am into cycling (road and mtb); I join competitions from time to time. Before cycling I used to run marathons, then moved to tennis, and has been biking since 2000. But since 2006 my cycling time has dropped because of work demands. I also am no longer able to join competitions. Late 2006, there were lots of stress I was taking from my work and family life. At the same time I was having fitting problem with my road bike and I was getting sore ( check & back aches ) after every ride (also was riding a lot to stress relieve). One day, I just thought I'd better see a doctor for my chest pain cause that seem to be unusual, although it was just mild. I went to see our company doctor at lunch time and surprise: my BP was 150/100. Tried again after several minutes of rest and still it was 150/90. But I wasn't really feeling anything bad. So doctor gave me some pill to place under the tonque. It gave me some headache but BP went down to 120/80. But the chest pain was still there. ECG and blood test (check for stroke or heart attack?) on that day showed everything normal. But ….this is when it all started that I was declared hypertensive. Because when I returned for a re-check on another day, BP was again elevated at 150/90.
The doctor referred me to a cardiologist who started me on 50 mg buscopan, then changed to 5 mg vascor, then to 2 mg coversyl because my BP has been good every check up. I monitor my BP at home and its around 120/80 most of the time although it can be 100/70 at times. I am usually away from home, working abroad and don’t have regular access to cardiologist so I chose not to fight being under medication. Also, because I still do some intense cycling routines, I want to make sure I'm protected when I'm on the bike. So I take my medicines regularly.
But I feel that I need a second opinion; I think I was just caught in a stress-filled episode at that time.
I am 42 years old, no family history of high BP, light built, no other disease. Is it reasonable that I get re-evaluated?
Thanks

[K_r_a_m]

Sorry to interrupt, I also just need some advise please:

I consider my self to be athletic. I am into cycling (road and mtb); I join competitions from time to time. Before cycling I used to run marathons, then moved to tennis, and has been biking since 2000. But since 2006 my cycling time has dropped because of work demands. I also am no longer able to join competitions. Late 2006, there were lots of stress I was taking from my work and family life. At the same time I was having fitting problem with my road bike and I was getting sore ( check & back aches ) after every ride (also was riding a lot to stress relieve). One day, I just thought I'd better see a doctor for my chest pain cause that seem to be unusual, although it was just mild. I went to see our company doctor at lunch time and surprise: my BP was 150/100. Tried again after several minutes of rest and still it was 150/90. But I wasn't really feeling anything bad. So doctor gave me some pill to place under the tonque. It gave me some headache but BP went down to 120/80. But the chest pain was still there. ECG and blood test (check for stroke or heart attack?) on that day showed everything normal. But ….this is when it all started that I was declared hypertensive. Because when I returned for a re-check on another day, BP was again elevated at 150/90.
The doctor referred me to a cardiologist who started me on 50 mg buscopan, then changed to 5 mg vascor, then to 2 mg coversyl because my BP has been good every check up. I monitor my BP at home and its around 120/80 most of the time although it can be 100/70 at times. I am usually away from home, working abroad and don’t have regular access to cardiologist so I chose not to fight being under medication. Also, because I still do some intense cycling routines, I want to make sure I'm protected when I'm on the bike. So I take my medicines regularly.
But I feel that I need a second opinion; I think I was just caught in a stress-filled episode at that time.
I am 42 years old, no family history of high BP, light built, no other disease. Is it reasonable that I get re-evaluated?
Thanks

Having a second opinion is a right that all patients have. If you think you need to get a second opinion, then you can do so. If the BP is still elevated in your second doctor then you really have hypertension, except if she/he tells you to have an anxiety attack disorder or the likes.

[ejosef]

Many cases of hypertension may manifest only at age 40 and above. Some cases are precipitated by other disease conditions such as diabetes, elevated cholesterol/lipid levels, thyroid disease, kidney disease etc... Actually, when one has elevated BP, meaning 140/90 or above, on at least two separate occasions, with ideally at least 1 week interval -- a diagnosis of Hypertension is usually made.

When one is predisposed to the disease, owing to no other factors but genetics/heredity, that is usually termed Essential Hypertension or Primary Hypertension. The other kind of hypertension is Secondary Hypertension,and as its name suggests, it is secondary to some other condition, such as the ones mentioned above. Hence, at your age, a comprehensive medical check-up with pertinent laboratory examinations may be warranted, such as Lipid Profile, Serum K, Mg, Ca, Na, Ultrasound of the Kidneys etc., in order to detect and manage these conditions.

As may have been mentioned, a 3-pronged approach to Hypertension is needed: Exercise, Low-sodium, low-fat diet, and Medications -- and of course, minimize stress.

I would advise not to abruptly discontinue your medication/s before you have had a follow-up check-up with your doctor... regular follow-ups are important because monitoring response to medication is needed -- since dosage may be increased or decreased, meds may be substituted or added, as appropriate.

Do not worry too much on a BP of 100/70, as long as it does not cause you any problem, such as dizziness or weakness. Our BP is not constant, it differs from hour to hour and day to day -- as long as the ideal BP of less than 140/90 is maintained. :)

[guo_mei_xin]

Mababa parin yun blood pressure ko. Last I checked, yun akin mga 80/40 minsan 70/30. Hindi ako payat nor overweight., so feel ko it's not normal for me to have low bp. I'm 115 pounds, average size.
Starting this year, masmadalas yun dizziness ko, but I don't faint. yun feeling na parang umikot env't ko when in fact I'm just standing or sitting. Then starting March, almost everyday ko na na-experience ito.

When I run sa treadmill sa gym, feel ko parang tutumba ako, pero hindi naman. Tapos when I touch yun pang heart rate, mababa siya (mga less than 100), when in fact it should be high (Kailangan daw mga 100-120) kasi I'm running fast. I tried this in two different gyms, same result. So isip ko baka sira yun equipment nila. But when my mom took my blood pressure for me, mababa nga. Same results din when I went to an acupunturist before and an ob.

I thought of taking the vitamins recommended to me before, like mga calcium, magnesium etc. Kaso parang ang dami, so nawalan ako ng gana bumili lahat nun.

Questions:
1) What kind of doctor should I go to? Cardiologist ba? Or any general practitioner? Kasi if pupunta ako ng general practitioner tapos sasabihin sa akin na punta ako ng cardiologist, dederecho na lang ako sa cardiologist. Or kailangan grabe na bago ako pupunta ng cardio?

2) What other recommeneded tests should I take before going to the doctor? Ayaw ko din na pagdating sa doctor, sasabihin niya I should take blood test etc etc tapos babalik sa kanya, so double gastos nanaman. Isip ko magpablood test na, take CBC, blood culture, urine culture (ito kasi recommended sa internet). Ano pa iba na pwede?

3)I also read sa net na EKG can be done. Kailangan ba may doctor's note dito, or pwede kahit wala?

Thanks guys!

[froshie1]

^ go and see a cardiologist. I recommend my cardiologist his name is Dr. Gary A. Lopez. He has an office at Makati Medical Center and Asian Hospital.

[K_r_a_m]

^^ You can go to a cardiologist just to be sure. All laboratory examinations need a request from a physician, so it is advisable to see one first. Also, you can avoid doing unnecessary lab exams by seeing first a physician.

[guo_mei_xin]

thanks sa advice!

[Dhugz]

To guo mei xin, mukhang mababa nga ang bp mo, baka insufficient na ang mga nutrients sa Katawan mo. Take Ferrous Sulfate 325mg 2xa day, and Ascorbic Acid 500mg every day, in 6 months po iyan. . . Kung sa isang buwan wala kang nakikitang improvement you need to see your doctor, baka iba na ang cause ng low bp mo. . .

[Slake]

i also have low bp. mahina ang pulse ko. halos di marinig ang pintig. there are other complications pa. the doctor said anything can happen.

[Dhugz]

i also have low bp. mahina ang pulse ko. halos di marinig ang pintig. there are other complications pa. the doctor said anything can happen.

Dizziness, nawawalan ng malay, mahirap magclot ang dugo pag nasusugatan, ang mga iyan ay mga symptoms ng mababang Bp, usually Iron deficiency Anemia iyan. Dapat maicorrect yung deficiency by taking iron supplements such as Ferrous Sulfate with vitamin C. If walang pagbabago sa isang buwan o dalawang buwan na pagtetetake ng iron supplement, kelangan po nang masinsinang examinations, baka may mas malalim na dahilan kung ganun. Dahil baka puwdeng symptoms na lamang ang Anemia ng Leukemia at iba pang mga diseases. . .

[timothykirk]

Dizziness, nawawalan ng malay, mahirap magclot ang dugo pag nasusugatan, ang mga iyan ay mga symptoms ng mababang Bp, usually Iron deficiency Anemia iyan. Dapat maicorrect yung deficiency by taking iron supplements such as Ferrous Sulfate with vitamin C. If walang pagbabago sa isang buwan o dalawang buwan na pagtetetake ng iron supplement, kelangan po nang masinsinang examinations, baka may mas malalim na dahilan kung ganun. Dahil baka puwdeng symptoms na lamang ang Anemia ng Leukemia at iba pang mga diseases. . .

Dhugs, related ka ba sa any medical profession?

[guo_mei_xin]

thanks sa mga advice. wala naman ako leukemia or lupus, mababa lang talaga count ng wbc ko and low blood pressure. Sabi ng doc masmabilis ako mahawa sa mga may sakit. pero sabi din niya baka normal blood pressure ko ang akala kong low blood pressure ko (latest was 100/50). totoo ba yun? niloloko ata ako. pero I'm taking ferrous sulfate na din, magimprove naman health ko. less dizziness. maintain ko na lang siguro for 6 months para mas ok

[Dhugz]

Good Gou mei xin. Pag mababa ang Bp nagmamanifest po ng Dizziness, fainting, etc. Ibig sabihin you need to treat it, dahil hindi na maganda ang oxygenation sa katawan mo, puwedeng magkaroon ng Damage sa brain or sa Heart(SHOCK). kung mababa ang Bp naman pero di nagmamanifest ng kahit anong symptoms ibig sabihin normal iyon sa iyo. Pero you need to consult your Physician parin. To timothykirk, yes, related po ako sa medical profession.

[guo_mei_xin]

^thanks! general physician diba? Medyo stupid next question ko.. ang ob ba considered din as general physician? Or I should go to a doctor na yun title ng profession niya is "general physician" talaga?

[froshie1]

you need to consult a cardiologist.

[one2avoid4ever]

Cardiologist din ng mama ko si Doctor Gary Lopez sa Asian Hospital. My mom has been his patient for almost 5 years now. Hypertensive kasi ang mom ko. Paiba-iba ang gamot nya Norvasc, Codiovan, Lipitor, Physiotens na wala na ngayon, Stugeron, Serc, Catapress at kung ano-ano pa.

Lately biglang bumababa ang BP nya at nagcollapse sya nung Manny pacquiao fight. Dinala namin sa asian, 70/40 ang bp. Same thing with what I've read above na ang hirap na marinig yung pulse. Kala namin mawawalan na kami ng mama. Na confine sya for one night, inabot ata kami ng P32,000 sa bill kasi sa Special E.R sya dinala. Nagpatest sya for 2d Echo at lumabas na meron syang Mild Mitral Regurgitation ejection fraction of 78 percent and a left ventricular hypertrophy. Hindi pa namin nafoforward kay Doc Lopez yung results kasi nasa convention daw.

Hay ang hirap ng ganito. Waiting...Ang mama ko kasi ndi ina-alagaan ang sarili nya. Binabantayan namin sya lagi wag kumain ng maalat! NO SALT! pero lagi nagtatago ng Kiamoy sa ilalim ng kama, Ang lakas kumain ng manggang hilaw na puro asin. Ang lakas mag kikoman. Ginagawa nya ito tuwing tulog na kami or wala kami sa house. Ndi naman kasi namin kaya bantayan sya 24 hours a day.

PS: The doctor switched meds so we have an overstock of Coversyl and Avalide/Avapro that I can sell. Bigyan ko nlng kyo ng atleast 30% discount. Alam ko madaming may kelangan ng gamot na ito pero mahal sa mercury. Please do text if ur interested 09267186808

[liaa.cariaga]

hi! last year i gave birth (normal delivery with epidural) to 7.2 lbs baby boy, after 1 week mababa BP ko 90/60. and hirap ako huminga. nagpalab test ako, blood, xray,ecg...lahat ok naman. my weight then was 125lbs.

after 4mos, bigla na naman ako nahilo, hirap huminga and nagchest pain ako...naglast for about 15minutes, the next day punta ko sa doctor sabi ok naman lahat (BP). pa ecg ulit ako normal naman.

this january sumasakit na batok ko, and yung chest pain parang nagraradiate yung pain sa likd ko though di naman masakit na masakit nakakabother lang, minsan mamamanhid yung left side ng head ko, pati face ko, tapos minsan parang may tingling feeing sa back ko na katapat ng chest, nag pa ecg ako and xray sa ecg poor r-wave progression, xray was normal. im 29. i now weigh 110lbs. i rarely eat meat, fish and veggies diet ko. im just at home taking care of my kids.

what could be wrong? di ko naman nararamdaman ng matagal, it comes and goes pero nakakabother kasi last june pa ito. help me please

[liaa.cariaga]

and feeling ko pagsumasakit chest ko parang naiipitan ng ugat, kahit pag yung batok ko parang naiipitan ng ugat...

[froshie1]

hi! last year i gave birth (normal delivery with epidural) to 7.2 lbs baby boy, after 1 week mababa BP ko 90/60. and hirap ako huminga. nagpalab test ako, blood, xray,ecg...lahat ok naman. my weight then was 125lbs.

after 4mos, bigla na naman ako nahilo, hirap huminga and nagchest pain ako...naglast for about 15minutes, the next day punta ko sa doctor sabi ok naman lahat (BP). pa ecg ulit ako normal naman.

this january sumasakit na batok ko, and yung chest pain parang nagraradiate yung pain sa likd ko though di naman masakit na masakit nakakabother lang, minsan mamamanhid yung left side ng head ko, pati face ko, tapos minsan parang may tingling feeing sa back ko na katapat ng chest, nag pa ecg ako and xray sa ecg poor r-wave progression, xray was normal. im 29. i now weigh 110lbs. i rarely eat meat, fish and veggies diet ko. im just at home taking care of my kids.

what could be wrong? di ko naman nararamdaman ng matagal, it comes and goes pero nakakabother kasi last june pa ito. help me please


when you say chest pain anong part ng chest?

[liaa.cariaga]

90% of the time sa left side po ng chest yung pain tapos parang nagraradiate sa likod (left part din, parang ipitan ng ugat ganon yung feeling.

[froshie1]

maging concern ka kung sa gitna nag sakit dahil nandun ang puso. para sigurado ka magpacheck ka sa cardiologist.

baka muscle strain yan or heart burn (acid reflux). mali ba ang posture mo most of the time magkakaron ka talaga ng strain sa harap at likod.

[one2avoid4ever]

anyone here who knows anyone that needs Coversylt tablets or Aprovel tablets? please text me at 09178821588.

[cuddly_9]

90% of the time sa left side po ng chest yung pain tapos parang nagraradiate sa likod (left part din, parang ipitan ng ugat ganon yung feeling.

how is your BP? normally, after pregnancy, some develop mga murmurs sa heart dahil nga sa dumami fluid ng katawan natin and yun puso natin compensated to work harder. Now, nanganak ka na, nagcompensate ulet puso natin sa normally that you would pero this time di ka na pregnant. But if the chest pain persist, tawag dyan angina, baka pagawan ka ng 2decho to rule it out.

[cuddly_9]

Cardiologist din ng mama ko si Doctor Gary Lopez sa Asian Hospital. My mom has been his patient for almost 5 years now. Hypertensive kasi ang mom ko. Paiba-iba ang gamot nya Norvasc, Codiovan, Lipitor, Physiotens na wala na ngayon, Stugeron, Serc, Catapress at kung ano-ano pa.

Lately biglang bumababa ang BP nya at nagcollapse sya nung Manny pacquiao fight. Dinala namin sa asian, 70/40 ang bp. Same thing with what I've read above na ang hirap na marinig yung pulse. Kala namin mawawalan na kami ng mama. Na confine sya for one night, inabot ata kami ng P32,000 sa bill kasi sa Special E.R sya dinala. Nagpatest sya for 2d Echo at lumabas na meron syang Mild Mitral Regurgitation ejection fraction of 78 percent and a left ventricular hypertrophy. Hindi pa namin nafoforward kay Doc Lopez yung results kasi nasa convention daw.

Hay ang hirap ng ganito. Waiting...Ang mama ko kasi ndi ina-alagaan ang sarili nya. Binabantayan namin sya lagi wag kumain ng maalat! NO SALT! pero lagi nagtatago ng Kiamoy sa ilalim ng kama, Ang lakas kumain ng manggang hilaw na puro asin. Ang lakas mag kikoman. Ginagawa nya ito tuwing tulog na kami or wala kami sa house. Ndi naman kasi namin kaya bantayan sya 24 hours a day.

PS: The doctor switched meds so we have an overstock of Coversyl and Avalide/Avapro that I can sell. Bigyan ko nlng kyo ng atleast 30% discount. Alam ko madaming may kelangan ng gamot na ito pero mahal sa mercury. Please do text if ur interested 09267186808

hinde ba sobrang dami BP meds ng mom mo, Amlodipine then may codiovan, physiotens and catapres? Parang dami naman. alam mo, try to cut down on salt but not NO SALT kasi your mom is taking codiovan. It is a diuretic meaning pampa-ihi losing water with some salt like sodium, K. Kasi if ever bumagsak yun sodium nya, she'll be so weak. hhmm... nagmamanas ba sya?

[cloud45]

Hello po to all,

Just wanted to get some help and advices. Last monday po kasi nag pa BP ako sa school namin 170/100. Kaya pala i feel sick or ill kasi parang lalagnatin na ako. First time ako ngka ganto high blood na pala ako. 24 yrs old na ako ***** at i remember in the last few months, malakas na ako kumain ng kanin as in marami ako nakakain na kanin. Totoo po ba na isa sa dahilan ang high blood its bcoz of pagkain ng marami ng rice? then i also remember last sunday night, kumain kami ng wife ko ng tempura e maalat un kaya naicip ko na yun ang nagpadale skin kaya nung morning medyo masama na pakiramdam ko. Absent ako yesterday so that i can rest kahit 1 day. I take plenty of water saka naka 3 pineapple juice in can ako. This morning, ng pa BP ako sa office, 140/100. kaya ***** medyo hindi pa normal pakiramdam ko. Please advise kasi worried ako sa health ko ***** eh. Thanks in advance.

[cuddly_9]

hello cloud45
hinde dahilan ang pagkain ng kanin ng rice for high BP. ang kadalasan reason ay ang strong family history natin gaya ng parents, grandparents at mga kapatid. Tanong ko lang, ilang taon ka na, ano po ang usual BP nyo dati para macompare mo kung ano ang mataas na bp para sa iyo at body type nyo po. I suggest that you go to a doctor for prescription kung di mo magawa yun, take po kayo ng aspirin.

[cloud45]

Thank you for the response cuddly_9. Im 24 years old and i cant remember na yung dati kong BP eh. Basta ang alam ko before normal lang BP ko. Average lang naman body ko na slight slim but not totally slim. Ang suggestion nga nung chineck ako sa school is magpablood test na daw ako kagad at matakot na daw ako kasi ang taas ng BP ko 170/100. Until now im not feeling normal unlike before. What is aspirin? Can you give some details?

[froshie1]

^tol kung ako sa iyo that's something serious that you need to attend to, instead of posting here go visit a cardiologist. Biro mo from Jun 14 up to now masama pakiramdam mo. you may need to take meds to lower that bp of yours.

Aspirin's believed to thin out the blood pero di naman lahat ng may high bp eh kailangan ng aspirin. Baka mag self diagnose ka at ang next na problem mo naman ay ulcer or matinding hyperacidity because of taking aspirin.

Go and see a cardio ASAP!

[one2avoid4ever]

anyone who needs cozaar(lasartan)100mg or lipitor 40mg?

[mommynasijm]

hi all..matagal ko na sinusundan thread na to pero ngayun lang ako sinipag mag post :) anyway to begin with i just turned 28. I gave birth almost 2 years ago via CS..Reason?pre eclamsia..same thing happened to my mom when she gave birth to me..the thing is, sya nag normalize BP nya after a while..in my case, after gaving birth mataas pa din BP ko (i took adamat 3 times a day )..130/90 150/80 etc etc...anyway after giving birth nag 130/80 130/90 ang BP ko..our company doc (not a cardio) advised to take norvasc 5mg..she gave me sulit card that entitles me to get 50% off...ok naman naging resulta sa a kin 120/80 110/80....kaso recenetly naging pasaway ako...i tried not to take medication for a month...kase yung bp ko 110/80 110/70...parang nag stabilize sya dun...kaso pag ninenerbyos ako (konting sakit ng ulo at dizziness na aasociate ko agad sa sa highblood) ayun tumataas nanaman sa 130/80 140/90.....sa totoo lang ayoko na mag gamot..i want other alternative..kase feeling masyado pa akong bata para sa pang habang buhay na maintenance...kakalungkot lang...

[froshie1]

^err.. doctor mo ang makakapgsabi kugn tatanggalin ka na sa gamot..

ang treatment kasi ng highblood ay 3 prong: medicine, healthy lifestyle (take note lifestyle at hindi diet) and exercise. wala ka man sa 3 noon di macocontrol or gagaling ang pasyente.

[cuddly_9]

Alam mo, kaya ayaw mo uminom ng gamot kasi its not common sa atin especially with age but isipin mo din yung risk of having high blood pressure, imagine at 140/90 may nararamdaman ka ng panghihilo. Tsaka, isipin mo din yun other risks mo like family history, high cholesterol if meron. yun lang eh risks na yun. Mas marami risks ang hinde pag inom gaya ng stroke and heart attack. Ganyan nangyari sa papa ko, nacontrol na niya yun BP nya then all of a sudden hininto nya, ayun... nastroke sya. If I were you, try to ask your MD and heed advice on what to do and on any alternatives. Good luck.

[mommynasijm]

Thanks sa reply nyo..i visited cardio sa makati med last week..she asked me to have some test..thread mill..lipid...urinalysis..etc...nung nag bp checked ako (no medication) 120/80 bp ko...nung kausap na kame ng doctor (i am with my office mate kase sya high blood talaga), i informed my doc a bit about my history...then i also informed her that i dont take norvasc for quite some time now..sabi naman nya ihinto muna yung gamot then yun nga she asked me to take the tests...anyway, nung nasa clinica manila na ako...kinunan ako ng ng bp nag 110/80 and 100/80 ako (without med)....anyway, i will go back to the doc as soon as i get all the results of my test (icocompare yung resulta ng Annual physical exam ko last feb)...im hoping maging ok na...medyo iwas ako sa maalat kase feeling ko yun talaga nag titrigger ng hb ko...hayy medyo praning talaga ako pagdating sa highblood...from time to time talaga check ko...gamit na gamit yung pang bp ko ** sa opis e (electronic) imagine dala dala ko sya hahahha...yun lang will give update soon!!