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shadowwisemail
May 10, 2007, 12:14 PM
Based sa mga naapplyan ko at based sa mga observations ko... gusto ko *** ito ishare sa ibang mga nghahanap ng "job with training" sana mkatulong :)
(Based ito sa IT companies ... not sure with other companies)


Training program
- usually 2-3 months training
- mgsisign ka na ngcontract (usually may bond) before or at the 1st day of training
- usually regular pay during training
- employee ka na ng company during training BUT under probation
- there is casualty during training pero konti *** (based on work ethics, desire to learn, progress etc)
- comp: Accenture, SVI, Safeway, SPL, Radix

BOOTCAMP
- usually 1 month training or weeks *** (not with the case of fujitsu)
- usually no contract signing yet (kung meron man no bond pa at d ksama sa duration ng bond *** training)
- usually ALLOWANCE only during training
- majority are casualties:( (usually either konti *** nkakapasa or kung mrami **** *** best or top trainees *** mbibigyan ng job offer)
- mgiging employee ka *** ng company after passing the training OR nsa top ka ng batch at kukunin ka ng company
- comp: Soluziona, Trend Micro, Fujitsu, MBTC

So *** sakin kung may offer from company A na X yrs bond with training at may offer from company B na BOOTCAMP for X weeks... I'll go with company A with less RISK.

Hope this thread helps... dati d ko rin alam kung anu pgkakaiba ng bootcamp sa training at kung *** *** iba Allowance only at *** iba full pay na agad... well ito po *** answer! :)

Kung may mga suggestions or comments or any additional info or ideas feel free to reply!

Note: Based *** po yan sa observations ko...

kaningbrown
May 10, 2007, 02:16 PM
Same banana, different terms.

Azeus gives a 1 month training program but nobody calls it bootcamp.

See?

franz15
May 10, 2007, 02:24 PM
Based sa mga naapplyan ko at based sa mga observations ko... gusto ko *** ito ishare sa ibang mga nghahanap ng "job with training" sana mkatulong :)
(Based ito sa IT companies ... not sure with other companies)


Training program
- usually 2-3 months training
- mgsisign ka na ngcontract (usually may bond) before or at the 1st day of training
- usually regular pay during training
- employee ka na ng company during training BUT under probation
- there is casualty during training pero konti *** (based on work ethics, desire to learn, progress etc)
- comp: Accenture, SVI, Safeway, SPL, Radix

BOOTCAMP
- usually 1 month training or weeks *** (not with the case of fujitsu)
- usually no contract signing yet (kung meron man no bond pa at d ksama sa duration ng bond *** training)
- usually ALLOWANCE only during training
- majority are casualties:( (usually either konti *** nkakapasa or kung mrami **** *** best or top trainees *** mbibigyan ng job offer)
- mgiging employee ka *** ng company after passing the training OR nsa top ka ng batch at kukunin ka ng company
- comp: Soluziona, Trend Micro, Fujitsu, MBTC

So *** sakin kung may offer from company A na X yrs bond with training at may offer from company B na BOOTCAMP for X weeks... I'll go with company A with less RISK.

Hope this thread helps... dati d ko rin alam kung anu pgkakaiba ng bootcamp sa training at kung *** *** iba Allowance only at *** iba full pay na agad... well ito po *** answer! :)

Kung may mga suggestions or comments or any additional info or ideas feel free to reply!

Note: Based *** po yan sa observations ko...

Ah I see... Now I know... Thanks for the info... Hehehe... :)

bongkers
May 11, 2007, 09:54 AM
terminology-wise, usually a training program involves a well-designed development program that intends to provide you with the skills you need to undertake your job. Contrary to your post, training programs are not limited to short term durations but companies (all of those you listed whether in the training programs or the bootcamps) have training programs that span all positions and all personnel throughout their career/employment.

Bootcamps are specially targetted sessions that are usually designed to provide in-depth knowledge on a particular topic/skill. the intention of the bootcamp, similar to those in the military, are to drill you with training in a short amount of time such that once you complete the said training, you can immediately provide value to your new role.

Bootcamps can be provided to both employees and to applicants (if the company decides to invest in them).

Given the situations you've mentioned above... there are pros and cons with both.

In the former, where you are already employed and have a training bond, you are assured of employment but are tied down by your bond. the company has decided to invest in you (both in training and compensation) in return for your eventual service to them.

in the latter, (which you term as bootcamps), the risks aren't only on the applicant. the companies themselves have taken on risks investing in training applicants who do not have to join them. look at it this way, the company pays for your training, pays you a minimal allowance (or food) yet you are not under contract. At the end of the session/bootcamp, they have the option to offer an employment contract to you or not, but similarly, you have the option to accept the offer or reject it. technically, if you aren't accepted, you feel you've wasted your time, you can take that training anywhere else as the knowledge is already with you. whereas, if they (the company) offers you a contract and you reject it, they've essentially lost money/investment on your training.

At the end of the day, it's different strokes for the different companies. They know the pros and cons of the strategies they employ. I just want to make you guys aware of how they think and recruit.

synergy05
May 12, 2007, 08:20 AM
Thanks for the inputs PEXer friends!