[Merged] why/why not go to Accenture?

[ƒREQUENCY]

i'm a college senior and almost everyone got application invites from Andersen (soon to be Accenture). can anybody give me an idea on how it is to work for this company?

[zimdude]

The same was true for my batch, 5 years ago.

For me, personally, Andersen-type IT/management isn't my type... and I'm happy I went into the Internet field instead, when it was still quite new.

[yuga]

Originally posted by ƒREQUENCY
i'm a college senior and almost everyone got application invites from Andersen (soon to be Accenture). can anybody give me an idea on how it is to work for this company?

dude, you may want to read this thread (http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php3?threadid=25558) for more insights regarding Accenture.

the work and pay is OK there that's why they got no problem looking for prospective employees, but, there are certain isolated cases when kids like you just quit right after the first day in Accenture. It might have been personal reason but nobody would know if you won't try it.

Let, me put it this way: if you are inclined in IT, willing to travel abroad and have trainings here and there, then you might want to check out this company.

=)
Yuga (http://www.yugatech.net)

[ƒREQUENCY]

many thanks guys! :)

[KuyaDanny]

I'd advise you suspend judgment about whether Accenture is your kind of company or not. Instead, see if you can answer yes to both of these questions:

1) Do you want a job?
2) Do you have time to apply for a job?

Because if your answer to both questions is yes, the pragmatic approach is for you to go through the application process. If you are like most people, you do not have recruiters climbing over each other outside your door, fighting for the chance to offer you a job. You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain. These are the advantages of applying to, not necessarily working for Accenture:

1) You might get a job offer (which you can always refuse) and find out how much one company is willing to pay you;
2) You will get experience in job interviewing, test taking, and a whole host of other aspects of applying for a job, which you can use when you apply to an employer you do like;
3) You may get to meet good people who work for Accenture, and who can give you a good idea of what it is like to work there.

[ƒREQUENCY]

thanks KuyaDanny... i actually am already enjoying all those benefits you mentioned...

[eli]

the company doesn't pay much, but the training is superior. long-term, its worthwhile to work for Accenture/Andersen.

[Maverick]

why:
- ok naman sweldo
- college atmospher, first-name basis tawagan ninyo
- takes you around the world for work and training
- you get to meet people from different countries, which gives you the self-confidence in dealing with cultures other than your own
- airline miles (babaw ba ng kaligayahan? hehe...)
- libreng iced tea (another kababawan)
- libreng internet (pwera sex-related sites, although minsan lumulusot)
- beatiful ladies (although wala pa ring tatalo sa dami ng magagandang babae sa mga banks)

why not:
- minsan ala ka na panahon sa sarili mo dahil sa trabaho (i remember the y2k remediation project na halos araw-araw, maski sabado, madaling-araw na kami umuuwi)
- minsan magpapasko ka sa ibang bansa, malayo sa pamilya mo
- pag may naisip pa ako ipo-post ko, hehe...

[eli]

Maverick: ilang taon ka na sa AC at anong team ka kasapi?

[Maverick]

eli: i've been with ac/accenture for more than two and a half years now. i spent two of those years with a client in the resources industry. it seems to me na taga-ac/accenture ka din. am i right? if so, do you like it?

[zimdude]

well my impression of AC is... you're sent abroad to do stuff using obsolete technologies that the people there wouldn't bother to learn already, or is boring... and siyempre we're paid cheaper than the locals. correct me if I'm wrong?

[Maverick]

Originally posted by zimdude
well my impression of AC is... you're sent abroad to do stuff using obsolete technologies that the people there wouldn't bother to learn already, or is boring... and siyempre we're paid cheaper than the locals. correct me if I'm wrong?

actually, zimdude, correct ka. pero di naman sa lahat ng projects yun. there are people here that are involved in e-commerce projects and new technologies.

[eli]

zimdude: tama ka... some guys are into those obsolete technologies... like COBOL. malas mo na lang kung napadpad ka dun. w/ regards to e-commerce proj., swerte ka kung mapunta ka dyan. konti lang ang mga nandyan.

[jon]

I'm a fresh graduate (IT), I checking out AC... Can you give me some tips?? Happy Holidays!!!! :)

[zimdude]

well, on the good side, it seems that people, like my friends, working at AC pick up stuff about Management - as if you took up an MBA. this is because they have really formal methodologies for doing things.

[emilie]

I worked with AC for three years from '92 to '95 so am not sure if my experience still holds true. But I enjoyed my stay there, usually it's more geared for single people because of the travel and long hours. It was nice to work with people from other countries. The work is quite structured so it might be a bit limiting to others who want more flexibility and creativity in programming or designing. Technolgy-wise, I didn't learn so much because in my 3 years there, I had three projects wherein I was focused only on one language. I think I learned more about business processes and reengineering as well as working in teams than the technical side and these still continue to help me in my current job. I have no regrets working in AC even though I have shifted out of the IT industry.

[Maverick]

emilie, your experiences still hold true. maybe that's why people would like to have ac as their first job: it jumpstarts their corporate careers and you learn things (such as management, in many different aspects) that can really help you, should you decide to pursue a different career.

[orano]

kuya danny: kahit naman nag-iinvite ang accenture ng mga prospective employees eh they still undergo the whole application process i.e., qualifying exams, interviews, etc.

ako din, i've been with this organization for almost 3 years now. kahit hindi talaga IT ang course ko nung college, no regrets ako sa mga experiences ko dito.

siguro isang plus pag nag-work ka frequency dito sa accenture, aside from those maverick already mentioned eh yung experience to work in an environment na talagang systematic. pero that doesn't necessarily mean na lahat ng bagay absolute - meron pa rin ditong tinatawag na best practices venues wherein you can share processes which may be new or modified that will make life easier/more efficient.

[KuyaDanny]

Originally posted by orano
kuya danny: kahit naman nag-iinvite ang accenture ng mga prospective employees eh they still undergo the whole application process i.e., qualifying exams, interviews, etc.


That's what I meant. The process of getting the job is almost as valuable as the job itself.

[ƒREQUENCY]

Thanks to everyone who posted! I'm already seriously looking into a career with Accenture... now, if I'd only get that 2nd Interview call... :ahh:

[yuga]

i heard it's about one interview a month (apat ang interview di ba?), but gluck to you 'tsong! ;)

[Maverick]

Originally posted by ƒREQUENCY
Thanks to everyone who posted! I'm already seriously looking into a career with Accenture... now, if I'd only get that 2nd Interview call... :ahh:

if you feel confident na you did well sa 1st interview, wait for that call. hope you get through all those phases. if all goes well, then you'll be a part of the organization in about two months.

good luck! sabi nga sa isang ad ng accenture: "wishing you a season of brilliant possibilities."

[angst]

Originally posted by yuga
i heard it's about one interview a month (apat ang interview di ba?), but gluck to you 'tsong! ;)

Yeah, and then the interviews are really probing. They will really grill you as if you are on the impeachment witness stand.

[NewtoN]

yup, it's really like an impeachment, kasi ang tagal i-announce ng verdict... :lol:

[ƒREQUENCY]

Originally posted by angst
Originally posted by yuga
i heard it's about one interview a month (apat ang interview di ba?), but gluck to you 'tsong! ;)

Yeah, and then the interviews are really probing. They will really grill you as if you are on the impeachment witness stand.

...i believe it's the Behavioral type of interviews they're giving at ACCENTURE. i read from somewhere that such interviews are based on the premise that "one's behavior in the past will be similar to how he's going to behave in the future".

...anyway, thanks for the goodluck wishes! ;)

[`]

Originally posted by ƒREQUENCY
Thanks to everyone who posted! I'm already seriously looking into a career with Accenture... now, if I'd only get that 2nd Interview call... :ahh:

goodluck to you ƒREQUENCY !

[angel j]

Why NOT to work for Accenture:
1. Very low pay (for me at least)
2. Not everybody gets to have good opportunities of travel and good projects
3. No more overtime pay
4. They now resort to hiring mediocre people -- unlike before that they hire only the best ones. Ngayon, pati mga kabatch kong medyo madaldal lang pero walang binatbat sa skills eh napupunta dyan. It's such a mediocre environment.
5. Work to death ka sa lang kwentang projects and you get ridiculed by people from Bain and P&G.

Kung magaling ka talaga, don't go to Andersen/Accenture. Sayang ang galing mo.

Go to Andersen/Accenture ONLY if you are:
1. Mediocre
2. Medyo uto-uto
3. Walang initiative na maging somebody BIG
4. Rejected by your job applications at Bain and P&G
5. From UST or any other school aside from DLSU, UP and ADMU
6. Not giving a damn the exciting life you'd be missing as you get hired
7. Jolog na TH maging Conyo sa pag-English
8. at par with all the other Accenture employees --- MEDIOCRE.

[yuga]

ambigat 'nun ah!!! :eek:

i know dozens of people working in Accenture, some of them were even my classmates in college....

hindi naman ***** lahat "mediocre". of the two dozens of people i knew there, mga apat, lima or anim yata ang magaling talaga sa IT.

the rest, well, the rest are also magaling in their own respective ways, hindi nga lang sa IT.

so, the question: why people who are not good in IT, does not have an inkling of interest in IT and doesn't know anything about IT after more than six months of laborous CBTs and training in Accenture can be called a Consultant?

aba, ewan! ask them! ;)

[Maverick]

Originally posted by angel j
Go to Andersen/Accenture ONLY if you are:
8. at par with all the other Accenture employees --- MEDIOCRE.

MEDIOCRE pa pala kami ng lagay na yun. paano na kaya kung ginagalingan namin, hehehe... :lol:

anyway, everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion. as long as our clients are more than satisfied with the value we deliver to them, i know that the organization will be okay. PERO, i'm sure, may iba ding natamaan dun sa sinabi ni angel j. yun eh kung nabasa nila yun.

by the way, i'm still having the time of my life here at accenture... :D

[paralusi]

ex-ac po ako. i probably know maverick since s/he worked on the y2k projects not too long ago (but then again, marami kami noon).

pros.
a. i got to visit most of the places i wanted to see in the states, pag nag-training o na-assign ka "onshore" kasama na bakasyon at lakwatsa doon.
b. their methodology is really good. may sistema. that is what i missed most on my next job.

cons.
a. burnout. pwedeng ma-assign ka sa isang project forever. siyempre pag na-roll-on (na-assign) ka sa project sasabihin nila hindi.
b. sweldo. relatively, mababa. siyempre papakitaan ka ng HR ng data at statistics na magsasabi na mataas sila magpasweldo. samantalang, iyong data mo naman e galing doon sa batchmate mo sa IBM (read: iyong payslip niya).
c. aside from the training, there is no guarantee that you will travel at all.

eniweys, mataas pa rin talaga iyong attrition rate. 12 kami dati doon sa first training namin sa tate. 3 na lang yata sila ngayon.

ingat ka lang doon sa mga partner na a**hole talaga. iyong partner na tinatawag naming bos, ok yun.

[eli]

can u elaborate on the as*holes? can u give the initials na lang?

[ƒREQUENCY]

it seems that i'm now, more than ever, confused if i would indeed pursue a career in IT at Accenture... sigh.

i've been reading some good replies and some (like angel j's) which are not very encouraging at all.

what began as a dream of a two day thesis break (read: SLC at Westin on Jan 20-21) is now giving me the worst decision making challenge of my life...

[Maverick]

Originally posted by ƒREQUENCY
what began as a dream of a two day thesis break (read: SLC at Westin on Jan 20-21) is now giving me the worst decision making challenge of my life...

ƒREQUENCY , since you're going to the SLC, i suggest you weigh your options at that time. attending the SLC doesn't exactly mean that you're going straight to accenture. recruitment just wants to show graduating students like you what it is like to work at accenture (in a sugar-coated manner, i presume). from what i've heard, SLC attendees' only interview is the partner interview (though i still have to confirm this), but he/she has the final decision on whether he/she wants to push through with the whole accenture thingie or apply with another firm.

so, my suggestion is, attend the SLC, enjoy the experience, then make the decision. :D

[lance_ryan]

I attended the SLC last year and while it was fun hangin around with other students, I would have to concur with angel j's comment that mediocrity is a way of life in Andersen. The people are not competent enough. I mean, those who got in to the SLC are people with average and slightly above average GPAs, and some even don't have a single extra-curricular activity (besides commuting on public transport). Modesty aside, parang ako lang yata ang may pinakamaraming academic and extracurricular achievements doon. Like they swoon and marvel at my being a Student Council officer. Hello? As if that's not a common thing for student achievers?

The really really good people don't settle for Andersen. They aim for something bigger like P&G, IBM, or somewhere abroad.

[paralusi]

Originally posted by eli
can u elaborate on the as*holes? can u give the initials na lang?

ac (now accenture) people refer to the partners by their initials, so kung ibibigay ko yung initials ng mga kups, bale wala rin.

makikita mo rin naman kung sino e. hehe.

you guys might also want to check http://www.indenture.ac. we ex-AC people really love and enjoy this site.

peace y'all.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by paralusi
you guys might also want to check http://www.indenture.ac. we ex-AC people really love and enjoy this site.

peace y'all.

i love this site! hehehe... :lol:

[mupheza]

I turned down AC's offer last Feb. That was coz I was barely out of school yet. And I was afraid I might make the wrong choice if ever I join the company. They made it clear that I can't join the Consulting Office, sa Manila Solutions Office lang daw ako. :( My ego got hurt real bad. Anyway to make matters worse, they wanted me to fill the position as tech support for cobol mainframe ata. Whatever... while e-commerce is booming already. Well, syempre they can't leave their old clients in the middle of nowhere.

Do I sound bitter? :D I agree nevertheless, that another reason for not joining AC is that they had lowered the entrance exam passing score. They were hiring 200+ people for that year. And if I joined them, medyo walang sense of achievement. :D AC WAS my dream company pa naman when I was in my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and even early 4th year in undergrad school. :|

I'm not trying to put AC down in this discussion. Their interview strategy is really good though. It makes you think you have survived some kind of impossible quest! And also don't be shy to make follow-up calls regarding your next interview sched. Best of Luck! *spoken with sincerity*.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by mupheza
Do I sound bitter? :D I agree nevertheless, that another reason for not joining AC is that they had lowered the entrance exam passing score. They were hiring 200+ people for that year. And if I joined them, medyo walang sense of achievement. :D AC WAS my dream company pa naman when I was in my 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and even early 4th year in undergrad school. :|


i agree with your observation on the no sense of achievement part. when we were the ones going through the application process a couple of years ago, we knew we were going through one of the hardest in the industry. it sets you apart kasi sinasala nga, feeling mo angat ka sa mga schoolmates mo. but with the mass hiring that's going on, a lot of people who, to tell you the truth, will be rejected by accenture had the recruitment standards not been relaxed, are actually hired by the organization. there are still people who are above average, but obviously fewer than the numbers we oldtimers would like to see join accenture.

[simmie]

Maverick hello! i'm just worried about something and i thought you might be able to help me... :D

i'm one of the many fresh graduates who are currently applying for Accenture. I didn't pass an application form before... someone from HR just contacted a bunch of my blockmates and we went on and took the test...

anyway, i'm done with my first interview and i actually passed it :D pardon my kababawan but i felt like i've accomplished something great... yup! since it felt like i was on the witness stand on the impeachment trial

now, the problem is... someone from HR called me again and told me that i should get these 4 things -- SSS #, NBI clearance, renewed passport, SEc birth certificate -- first before i can be scheduled for a second interview... now, i can't get those things soon since i've just graduated this term and i'm currently busy reviewing for the board exam on may...

the question is... do you think i should get those things immediately or can i afford to take my time and get to those things during my free time?

help! :)

[Maverick]

simmie, i'm not sure if HR changed the process or something, but it used to be that those requirements are collected AFTER the partner interview. i suggest that you call HR (if you can talk to the person who called you it would be better) and tell them your predicament. i'm sure they'll understand. good luck!

[simmie]

Originally posted by Maverick
simmie, i'm not sure if HR changed the process or something, but it used to be that those requirements are collected AFTER the partner interview. i suggest that you call HR (if you can talk to the person who called you it would be better) and tell them your predicament. i'm sure they'll understand. good luck!

thanks! i guess it's a good thing a high school friend of mine is with the HR of Accenture... i'll go ask her nalang :)
thanks again! :D

[francisd]

From the people I know there, here are some of the good
and bad points of Andersen/Accenture.

The good points:

1. Training - They will teach you good methodologies
in Software development. This is one of the most
important factor to become successful in IT.

2. The people - On the contrary to what other people are saying. There is a lot of very smart guys and gals there at Accenture. If they do hire some "mediocre" applicants lately, probably its because of the high demand in IT. (Ang daming pwedeng pagpiliaan ng applicants)

3. Travel - Kung gusto mong mag-travel sa abroad, maraming opportunities doon para mag-travel.

The BAD points:

1. Travel - Kung ayaw mong mag-travel madalas. Wag ka na dito.(Dito sa States, 50% ang travel requirement nila)

2. Salary - I heard mababa ang initial salary ng Accenture. Pero tumataas naman daw agad.

3. Overtime work - No pay sa overtime and maraming overtime. Since consulting ito, mas kikita ang company pag nag-oovertime ang employees epecially kung dito sa states ang client. This is not just Andersen.(most consulting companies are doing this) The only difference is that some consulting companies DO PAY overtime.

4. Employment 2/3 Contact - I'm not sure kung meron pa ang Accenture pero James Martin has a 3 year contact sa mga new hires nila. Pag umalis ka kaagad, you will have to pay "X" amount. Don't forget to consider or ask about this when you apply.


Good luck!

[syoti]

I have been with Andersen/Accenture for almost two years now. I went through their very rigorous application process. That time... they only accepted 1 out of every 10 applicants. And that gave me a sense of achievement. I was one of the first from my batch of IT graduates who made it to AC. And there were a lot of us who unfortunately did not make it. That's why i consider this work a blessing.

I remember back in college that i have always wanted to work for this company. Simply because they were the best in the IT field. Not to mention the many challenges the job would offer.

There were a lot of pros and cons, as any other job would have. But let me state the reasons why i chose to work for this company:

1) You work with the BEST people. I have learned a lot just by asking my peers for help. The company's biggest asset and resource are it's people.

2) Work environment. This for me is very important. I know some people who resigned and came back after "testing the waters" on another company simply because of the work environment. AC reminds me so much of my college days. Corny as it may sound... but you will find a lot of love within the organization. I speak from my own experience. My first project was composed a group of 12... and although we're now in our own respective projects... it's as if we're still together in one project... going out of our way in helping someone in need. We've fondly called our manager "mommy". So that gives you an idea how we are.

3) You work within a systematic business process. Something other IT companies do not have. This teaches you discipline and the proper process in going about your work. From dealing with the clients, gathering the reqts, designing, coding... all the way to supporting the application. This process is used by Andersen/Accenture WORLDWIDE.

4) TRAINING! This alone should be reason enough. Whenever you are un-assigned... they put you on training. And now, they have given the employees the liberty to choose which training courses they want to take. Training abroad is also a plus factor.

5) Travel. I am currently assigned at a client in Minneapolis and am enjoying every moment of it. I'm trying to get as much experience as i can and making the most out of it. Dealing with people from different cultures is very exciting and rewarding. It also gives me a chance to "evaluate" what it's like to work in the states and to work with Americans. Coz i do have plans of working and settling there in the future.

6) Coming from AC gives you an advantage if ever you decide to move on and pursue another career. That's because most companies know the valuable experience one gains working for AC.

Although there have also been some rough times, i have never had any regrets. Working for AC/Accenture has been one of the most rewarding deicisions i have ever made. Given another chance, i would do the same thing again.

God bless and see you in AC.

SYOTI

[Boccelli]

Working for Accenture is great.. sometimes. I love the whole internationalism that's present with the firm. Im assigned here in the US but its been a year now so medyo nakaka-nuni.

Every firm has its pros and cons pero with Accenture, for some reason the pros outweigh the cons. Im a BSEco major pero its been great for me. Staying with the firm has given me more than I could ask for. Satisfaction wise, I can't speak for that coz I am getting satisfaction based on my assignment but I am sure my coleagues in Manila might say otherwise. (operative word here is MIGHT)

Yun lang!

[baste]

Originally posted by angel j
Why NOT to work for Accenture:
1. Very low pay (for me at least)
2. Not everybody gets to have good opportunities of travel and good projects
3. No more overtime pay
4. They now resort to hiring mediocre people -- unlike before that they hire only the best ones. Ngayon, pati mga kabatch kong medyo madaldal lang pero walang binatbat sa skills eh napupunta dyan. It's such a mediocre environment.
5. Work to death ka sa lang kwentang projects and you get ridiculed by people from Bain and P&G.

Kung magaling ka talaga, don't go to Andersen/Accenture. Sayang ang galing mo.

Go to Andersen/Accenture ONLY if you are:
1. Mediocre
2. Medyo uto-uto
3. Walang initiative na maging somebody BIG
4. Rejected by your job applications at Bain and P&G
5. From UST or any other school aside from DLSU, UP and ADMU
6. Not giving a damn the exciting life you'd be missing as you get hired
7. Jolog na TH maging Conyo sa pag-English
8. at par with all the other Accenture employees --- MEDIOCRE.

ahh ganun ba? buti sinabi mo at pinaalam mo sa amin... maraming salamat ha?! btw bakit di ka ba natanggap sa andersen/accenture? ahhh grabe kung puro mediocre lang tinatanggap nila tapos ikaw hindi nakuha.. grabe..... sang probinsya ka na naghahanap ng trabaho?

[angel j]

Originally posted by baste
ahh ganun ba? buti sinabi mo at pinaalam mo sa amin... maraming salamat ha?! btw bakit di ka ba natanggap sa andersen/accenture? ahhh grabe kung puro mediocre lang tinatanggap nila tapos ikaw hindi nakuha.. grabe..... sang probinsya ka na naghahanap ng trabaho?


FYI, I was offered to pursue a career there several times by your former HR recruiter (Wak Solis) but I turned her down each time. I passed the test and the interviews before I graduated from college and she was pressuring me to confirm ASAP my agreement to work for AC but I wanted to open my options. I USED to admire your company... until it started to hire some people who I personally don't think are not even in the ranks of what you can call above average in intellect, academic performance, and leadership abilities. So I turned down the offer. After a couple of months, somebody in her team called me up and asking me to join AC. I already have a steady career then - and I was satisfied with the hiring qualifications - so I said no. Of course, I won't trade working for a well-reputed, high-paying, and prestigious company for one that has compromised all the good points just to meet hiring quotas.

Honestly though, I believe your company needs to do a lot of redeeming - redeem the confidence competent people once had in your company.. since now the good people don't even consider your company as an option. Only the mediocre ones do.

I stand by my word and I'm sorry if you hurt with the truth.

[baste]

ahhh ok... kailangan nga nilang mag redeem... eh paano yun.... try ka na lang ulit after 2 years...... para masabing mong naredeem ka na... btw.... i thnk you're sourgraping kasi hndi ka natanggap... MAPAKATOTOO ka MARE!!!!!! go angel j!!! go angjel j!!! idol ka talaga

[yuga]

it's good to hear peeps from Accenture are here and defending their side; and just to keep everything fair and square. =)

i've heard na kumalat daw talaga ang thread na 'to around Ac (short for Accenture); i've even received several e-mails from friends and classmates who work there now (u know who u are guys!).

i told them that peeps from Ac shouldn't worry if these allegations were untrue.

as the old Filipino saying goes:

"Batu-bato sa langit, ang tamaan 'wag magalit!"

Peace!

[Maverick]

Originally posted by yuga
it's good to hear peeps from Accenture are here and defending their side; and just to keep everything fair and square. =)

i've heard na kumalat daw talaga ang thread na 'to around Ac (short for Accenture); i've even received several e-mails from friends and classmates who work there now (u know who u are guys!).

i told them that peeps from Ac shouldn't worry if these allegations were untrue.

as the old Filipino saying goes:

"Batu-bato sa langit, ang tamaan 'wag magalit!"

Peace!

i agree 100% on the Filipino saying, yuga. if there are actually accenture people who actually got hit by all those negative feedback, i suggest you prove those people wrong by doing your best... :D

[angel j]

Originally posted by baste
ahhh ok... kailangan nga nilang mag redeem... eh paano yun.... try ka na lang ulit after 2 years...... para masabing mong naredeem ka na... btw.... i thnk you're sourgraping kasi hndi ka natanggap... MAPAKATOTOO ka MARE!!!!!! go angel j!!! go angjel j!!! idol ka talaga

Your language epitomizes just what type of employees work for Accenture. Sayang. The respect I used to have for your company's recruitment efforts is totally down to nil now that I've encountered such a bungling oaf as you.

[na_ans]

To answer the impartialities of ANGEL J. and to clarify the thoughts of FREQUENCY and the others, here are the 10 things why you should work for Accenture.

1. Accenture people are not MEDIOCRE. In fact, you'll have a chance to work with the guru's in their respective fields.
2. Jologs are not only in Accenture, but in any other firms you can imagine.
3. Regarding "walang kwentang projects", it wouldn't be a project for Accenture if it is "walang kwenta".
4. It is good to be assigned on-shore but eventhough you can't be on it, there are other opportunities for you like promotion and the like.
5. It is nice to interact with other people in other countries.
6. People are professionals.
7. The organization is willing to invest for your trainings as long as you want it and you need it.
8. Accenture is a good training ground especially for those who are starting their careers.
9. Accenture has a good reputation and good client relationships.
10. Your "value" as a professional will increase if other companies would know that you've been a part of Accenture.

So for you guys out there, decide for yourselves. If you feel that you can't belong... then settle for a firm that would pass your standards. :)

[angel j]

At the end of the day, the choice is yours whether you wish to be part of Accenture or not. But the going rate is, people who get accepted in Accenture and eventually decide to work for it are those who do not have any other better job offers to choose from. Accenture simply is not the better IT person's choice.

[ex-ac]

fREQUENCY: i don't exactly know if u still browse the postings here but just the same let me give my two-cents worth regarding your concern... been with the firm for almost four years now... i can't say this is the best IT company because honestly i can't compare it with the others... it's my first job, u see... (kaya di ko alam kung pa’no nakakapagdecide yung iba kung ano ang best at kung ano ang hindi given they haven’t had the chance to try others…) but my EXPERIENCES so far leads me to believe i’ve been right in joining the firm and in working with these wonderful people… i am lucky to have been assigned to all my past projects – all challenging, and yes, even the ones which used the ‘obsolete’ COBOL – because i have learned a lot… and achieved a lot…

most of the replies you got - good and bad - are exactly the same ones that i hear from others (accenture and non-accenture people)... i'm not saying they're all correct, but the thing is, sometimes when u hear things over and over, u tend to believe that they are true... and blindly, you hold to those ‘truth’…

after all things are said, your career will depend on YOU and not necessarily to where u'r employed... some people are with the least of all the least known companies but they enjoy what they're doing and they're good at it... more importantly, they’re happy… some, like one of our friends in this forum, are probably with the most high paying multinational company but still do not have that sense of achievement (cause really, he has none), so he takes the liberty to call other people mediocre and pretends he’s content with his cute, narrow picture of the real world to hide his own mediocrity… pity… (he’ll even find time to respond until 5:30pm cause honestly, nagpapanggap lang sya sa trabaho and doesn’t know a single thing about what he’s doing… [well maybe at least he knows how to login to his pc and use the internet…] but since i already predicted that, he’ll desperately suppress this addicting urge to respond and will just go about his work – pretending…)

fREQUENCY, do yourself a favor… pick out the ideas you think would help you to decide… make your own move… and whatever decision you end up, stick with it and strive to be happy…

lots of luck!!!

[Shaft]

Hey simmie someone from accenture also called me up and asked for those 4 requirements also. My friend who recently joined ac told me that it was a new policy of ac to ask for those requirements before scheduling applicants for 2nd interview. In any case, medyo hassle talaga. What if di ka naman pala bibigyan ng job offer? I think it's a little unfair as these requirements are usually asked after one has accepted the job.

Maverick, what if I don't give the requirements kaagad? Will my chance at a second interview be revoked or something?

[Mondavi]

First let me reveal that I do work for Accenture and have done so for several years:

- fREQUENCY ... you don't lose anything in applying. I guarantee you that in exchange for your time, you will meet some of the most professional people in recruitment.

- Accenture is hiring more people, because it needs more people, especially for its fast growing Outsourcing and Solution Center business (Manila Solutions Center). Its not a question of lowering standard but rather having the opportunity to offer the young professionals of our country to get the Accenture experience and the career growth it offers.

- it is good to hear people from Accenture take a balanced view. It means that their continued stay is a result of a well-thought decision weighing both sides of the coin. It is true that we still have a lot to do to "Win the War for Talent" and many initiatives have been put in place and will continue to be put in place to succeed in this area.

- Angel J -- you are probably a top graduate with great extra-curricular credits -- that would be the reason that our HR people probably sought you aggressively -- that is their mission. Its unfortunate that you chose another company to join and I wish you success. We hold no grudge against your decision but I do take exception in your rationalizing your decision by branding and making an unfair generalization that Accenture people are mediocre. Looking down from your summit of academic success, some of them may seem so ... but from experience, many of these so-called "mediocre recruits" turn out to be diamonds-in-the-rough. Hopefully, in time, you will see the same people in an new light once we have uncovered their true potential. In fact, our problems has been keeping them from being pirated once they have shone and proven attractive to many companies here and abroad. Having said that, please do not be goaded into trashy exchanges with some of the irresponsible response of some of my colleagues - - it doesn't befit someone of your apparent stature.

- to those of you who felt slighted by Angel J -- you do yourself disservice by responding with heated passion. Show him up in the manner that the people in our firm have done so time and again - - be successful, delight our clients, unlock your potential.

Accenture people earn their place in the world through competence, dedication to excellence, tenacity in their purpose to help clients succeed and willingess to work with others to this end ... it is not inherited through family or educational pedigree alone ... nor offered on a silver platter through well-placed networks of friends and patrons ... shiny medals, a glib tongue and impressive credentials may get you in but it will be by your work which will confirm that you are indeed a true Accenture professional.
Now I can sleep.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Shaft
Hey simmie someone from accenture also called me up and asked for those 4 requirements also. My friend who recently joined ac told me that it was a new policy of ac to ask for those requirements before scheduling applicants for 2nd interview. In any case, medyo hassle talaga. What if di ka naman pala bibigyan ng job offer? I think it's a little unfair as these requirements are usually asked after one has accepted the job.

Maverick, what if I don't give the requirements kaagad? Will my chance at a second interview be revoked or something?

so, it's a new policy pala. i guess they will not allow you to go further into the interview process until hindi ka nakakapag-provide nung mga requirements. i'm sure they considered the applicants when they made this change.

[codeslut]

3. Regarding "walang kwentang projects", it wouldn't be a project for Accenture if it is "walang kwenta".

I disagree. I think it's the nature of big multinationals to have pointless, make-work projects largely driven by corporate politics.

I am not currently nor have been employed at Accenture, but I spent a third of my career in a big software firm. I was one of the lucky ones. I had the best project in the department. My coworkers were not so lucky. I watched them spend inordinate amounts of time writing trivial little utilities for the maintenance of an application that the company Mismanagement did not understand nor promote with any adequacy. In the end, nearly all of us left. Those that are left behind...well, good luck to them.

An old friend used to work with NCR. The majority of his two years of work there is now gathering dust, cancelled and forgotten by department heads.

I'm generalizing. I don't believe I would like the culture at Ac, but that's a personal opinion. However, I cannot believe a company of that size only works on worthwhile projects.

[forcelaw]

way to go ex-ac and Mondavi ... I like the way you put your thoughts into words ...

frequency, this is what I have to say ... right now I'm perfectly comfortable and happy with my job ... I feel blessed having this job in Accenture (I've been here for almost 3 years now btw) ... as what ex-ac have said, I take every assignment/project I roll into as a challenge ... yeah, there are times that my work isn't that challenging per se but mostly, I enjoy and learn so much from what I do ... especially now, I'm assigned on an on-shore project using advanced tools from Microsoft (e.g. MS Exchange 2000, Visual Interdev, etc.) ... of course, not everyone gets cool projects like this but you'll have your chance ... once you get here, they'll put you where they need people most but after awhile, maybe once you have proven yourself ... you can request them to have you transferred to another group or project which you think would be more challenging to you ... I understand as a fresh graduate we are filled with ideas that since we graduated from a reputable school and graduated at the top of our class, we tend to believe that we should always make demands with your dream job ... once you enter the industry life, it's the real world out there, unless you came from a very influential family and have your own company (and even if you are, expect not to receive special treatment, mind you, the nephew of a business tycoon widely sought by BIR, used to work for Accenture and he has to work his *** off to prove himself just like any Accenture employee) ...

Of course, just like any firms, Accenture has its downsides. But that is when you tend to look at its global policies which are not always applicable to its Manila personnel. But this is more of internal issues. Compensation wise, I could say it's pretty competitive with the other IT firms within Metro Manila. I'm happy with my salary. Plus, as one have said previously, when you get assigned on-shore you'll get like more than a thousand bucks excluding the lodging and the transportation the firm will provide you ... not mentioning your salary in Manila not getting touched (not necessarily in my case since I always give a portion of my salary to my mom, hehe)

Personally, I could say if I'm staying in Manila, I might as well stay in Accenture ... I like the work environment and the culture ... it's a flat organization ... everyone is called by first name basis ... unlike in traditional firms wherein your supervisors enjoys being a superior to their staff ... in Accenture, you won't feel that ... still, there is the aura of respect for your leads and managers ...

About the massive hiring of Accenture, it's inevitable. The firm needs more resources. It couldn't meet its target recruits if it maintains its' very high standards since there are only a handful top graduates produced yearly by reputable schools ... also as mentioned awhile ago, it gives the not so grade-conscious graduates to prove themselves being part of Accenture ...

... All the Best !!!

... forcelaw

[ƒREQUENCY]

Yes, I'm still reading and I really, really appreciate everyone's posts. It's just that there seems to be some tension brewing up in here, which I do hope would not lead to further misunderstanding. My intention for posting this thread is not to engineer such conflicts between 'pro' and 'anti' Ac PExers...
As for my prospective career with Ac, they haven't called me up yet for a second interview, and I'm beginning to think they never will :~(
Maybe I should just pursue a career in my field of specialization, i.e. Electronics & Communications Engineering... it's just that Ac appears to be a very interesting company kc. I hope tomorrow holds a brighter day for me. :angel:

[Maverick]

ƒREQUENCY, di ba invited ka sa SLC? di ka ba pupunta?

[na_ans]

fREQUENCY, i think you better wait until they personally tell you the real score... no matter what, HR will inform you of your application status. apply in other organizations while waiting and pick the great choice and stand with it, it's better to have comparisons though.

with regards to accenture --the people, the environment, the projects --most people are warm and you'll be learning a lot from them. the projects are challenging.. it's the way you see it that builds the challenge and the organization is good in building it up to you. even you're assigned in the most senseless project as others may think, the sense will always be alive in you... that's the normal case.

the firm is not so perfect too like other companies but it will satisfy you in one way or another. sooner or later some accenture people will hop from one firm to another but the skills, the knowledge, the wit and the attitude that he learned on his entire stay from the firm will be inculcated on his heart and mind and will always be with him whenever his feet may lead him.

good luck to you! hope to see you here...! :)

[zimdude]

I'm not anti AC per se (though it gives me shivers if I ever I had to work in IT/management Consultancy :D ) ... but if you have an ECE degree, I suggest you work for a Telco, an ISP or an equipment vendor... you'll make better use of your skills!

Here I am a CS major trying to learn some ECE stuff.

[ƒREQUENCY]

Originally posted by Maverick
ƒREQUENCY, di ba invited ka sa SLC? di ka ba pupunta?




Oh, you must have misunderstood one of my previous posts Mav... we were invited to apply and as incentive to the top 20% of applicants --there's the SLC. Until now I don't know anyone (even some of our best here in Computer Engineering and Electronics & Communications Eng'g in UP) who actually made it to the list of SLC attendees this Saturday.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by ƒREQUENCY
Oh, you must have misunderstood one of my previous posts Mav... we were invited to apply and as incentive to the top 20% of applicants --there's the SLC. Until now I don't know anyone (even some of our best here in Computer Engineering and Electronics & Communications Eng'g in UP) who actually made it to the list of SLC attendees this Saturday.

ah ok. anyway, just wait for that call. it will come. otherwise, as what na_ans said, it wouldn't hurt if you seek out other companies while waiting. it will give you some experience in dealing with different types of HR people, and you will see how one company "feels" to you, compared with accenture. there are companies kasi na you feel relaxed kahit applicant ka pa lang, companies that, well, make you feel secured while you're in their confines. (ganyan kasi na-feel ko nung naga-apply ako sa accenture. naks! :D)

good luck!

[Clinique]

Despite the debates (pros and cons) regarding Ac, I am still considering it as one of the companies that I would apply to. :) I am a fresh grad who is not into the line of IT, but I'm wondering if I am still qualified to be part of the company. I hope so.

Lately kasi, I checked out the job openings through the net. However, no positions for unexperienced jobseekers...Probably I would just walk-in. Is it right to apply as "systems analyst"? Is that the entry-level position?

Hope you guys out there could give me tips to be able to pass the grilling process. I really want to be part of your company. Thanks Ac pexers!!

[Maverick]

Originally posted by Clinique
Lately kasi, I checked out the job openings through the net. However, no positions for unexperienced jobseekers...Probably I would just walk-in. Is it right to apply as "systems analyst"? Is that the entry-level position?

you can put there "Analyst." you can also specify which business operation you would like to go to - the manila solution center (msc) or the manila consulting office (mco). if you have friends that work in (or used to work for) accenture, try asking them about the experience. think of msc and mco as courses in college. don't go into accenture not knowing where you want to go to.

here's something from http://www.accenture.com about careers in the manila office. this might help you decide where you can work well:

Accenture Manila has two business operations - the Manila Consulting Office and the Manila Solution Center, both of which provide numerous career opportunities for bright, dedicated and high-achieving people with a variety of backgrounds.

The Manila Consulting Office participates in projects both locally and abroad, and offers services covering the whole business spectrum: strategy, change management, process and technology. To date, the Manila Consulting Office has over 165 professionals.

The Manila Solution Center is part of a global network of Solution Centers established by Accenture to deliver state-of-the-market technology solutions to clients. The facility provides solutions by improving speed-to-market software enhancements, identifying and resolving design issues, improving software processes, as well as providing other systems building and application management activities. The Manila Solution Center serves clients in the communications, utilities/resources and products markets. The facility currently has over 550 regular professionals.

[angst]

Originally posted by simmie
Maverick hello! i'm just worried about something and i thought you might be able to help me... :D

i'm one of the many fresh graduates who are currently applying for Accenture. I didn't pass an application form before... someone from HR just contacted a bunch of my blockmates and we went on and took the test...

anyway, i'm done with my first interview and i actually passed it :D pardon my kababawan but i felt like i've accomplished something great... yup! since it felt like i was on the witness stand on the impeachment trial

now, the problem is... someone from HR called me again and told me that i should get these 4 things -- SSS #, NBI clearance, renewed passport, SEc birth certificate -- first before i can be scheduled for a second interview... now, i can't get those things soon since i've just graduated this term and i'm currently busy reviewing for the board exam on may...

the question is... do you think i should get those things immediately or can i afford to take my time and get to those things during my free time?

help! :)

They also called me and asked for these requirements. Naasar ako! I asked them why are they asking those requirements and they told me na requirement daw for the second interview. Duh! And they told me pa na there is no assurance that you will be given a job even though you submitted your requirements. So, I asked them what's the point of asking a passport? "You might get assigned offshore!" They should only ask for these documents if you are hired na talaga!

Kung di lang ako desperado na makakuha ng job sa AC, because my teacher told me to pursue a career in AC if you want excellent training daw, di ko na sana i-process ang mga requirements na to. Kaya lang...

[jiggybabymiggz]

Hi,

Actually hindi ako magtatanong about Andersen/Accenture pero I submitted my resume last week and I got an e-mail response from the HR (see Below):

Dear Mr. XXXXXXX:

APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT

Thank you very much for considering employment with our organization. We
have received your resume. We will contact you within three (3) weeks,
following review of your documentation in line with our current needs and
your experience level.

Thank you again for your interest in Accenture.


Very truly yours,

Patty D. Sianghio
Recruitment Manager


Two years ako nag-work before sa isang IT firm pero not as a programmer but as Technical Writer. Do you think I have the chance to be hired by Accenture? Totoo ba na tatawagan ako after 3-weeks as what she stated in the e-mail? At saka limited ang programming knowledge ko, wala akong programming background. Isa pa, I'm not sure how much to ask as from them pero am I assured na I'm not going to be paid below Php 10K? I don't know 'yung iba pero ako willing ako na ma-deploy sa iba't-ibang company..boring kasi na naka-upo ka lang sa office for 8-hours or more e..

Thanks
:|:ahh::|

[Maverick]

Originally posted by jiggybabymiggz
Two years ako nag-work before sa isang IT firm pero not as a programmer but as Technical Writer. Do you think I have the chance to be hired by Accenture? Totoo ba na tatawagan ako after 3-weeks as what she stated in the e-mail? At saka limited ang programming knowledge ko, wala akong programming background. Isa pa, I'm not sure how much to ask as from them pero am I assured na I'm not going to be paid below Php 10K? I don't know 'yung iba pero ako willing ako na ma-deploy sa iba't-ibang company..boring kasi na naka-upo ka lang sa office for 8-hours or more e..

Thanks
:|:ahh::|

ok, isa-isa lang ha, hehe...

- yes, you, like everybody else, have a chance to be hired by accenture.

- from my experience, they do call two or three weeks after you submit your application.

- don't worry if you have no programming background. though it is considered a plus factor, it isn't required. the training programs are easy to understand even for people who have no idea whatsoever with regards to programming.

- oo naman, you won't get a salary lower than 10k if you applied for the position of analyst. tapos experienced hire ka pa.

- your deployment into a client site depends on the project you're assigned to.

- sorry to disappoint you, pero most of the time mauupo ka nga sa office for eight hours or more, whether nasa client site ka or sa mse building. :D

hope i answered your questions. good luck.

[jiggybabymiggz]

Maverick,

Are you from Mapua? Kasi, I saw the same "nick" posted at the Mapua.Org website. Tanong ko lang marami ba na taga-MIT diyan sa Andersen? Meron ako'ng kakilala na mga ka-batch ko pero mga Dean's Lister sila: Sila Roberto David Jr, Lottice Tanjutco, etc. Kung kakilala mo sila e paki-kamusta na lang. Anyways, at least meron na akong mga makakakilala just in case ma-hire ako ng AC.

IE batch '98 (graduate) ako.

:boom::bop:

[Edited by jiggybabymiggz on 02-24-2001 at 04:31 PM]

[Maverick]

jiggybabymiggz, yes i'm from mapua. there are about 20-plus of our kind currently working here at accenture.

yes, i do know the people you mentioned. sasabihin ko na lang sa kanila na kinukumusta mo sila (that is, if they can distinguish you by your pex nickname :D). good luck again and hope to see you here.

[jiggybabymiggz]

Originally posted by Maverick
jiggybabymiggz, yes i'm from mapua. there are about 20-plus of our kind currently working here at accenture.

yes, i do know the people you mentioned. sasabihin ko na lang sa kanila na kinukumusta mo sila (that is, if they can distinguish you by your pex nickname :D). good luck again and hope to see you here.


Maverick: Kakilala ko sila dahil mga naging kaklase ko sila and they're the best in our batch sa IE, pero I doubt na kakilala nila ako. So, just tell them na may isang IE na nangungumusta sa kanila. Anyways, kung ma-hire naman ako e magkakakilanlan din tayo, 'di ba? I also heard from an ex-officemate na kabarkada ni Pia Mendoza na nandyan na raw si Pia Mendoza (bagong hire lang din siya e). About the hiring process, how long does it take? Kasi, right now I don't have a job pero I have many pending applications. Pero, of course, I definitely consider Andersen. And one more thing, hindi naman ako matalino maging Dean's Lister? Is this a factor para ma-hire sa AC? I definitely am hoping my work experience for two years would suit AC's needs?

:D

[jon]

How long is the application process... I'm still waiting for my first interview.

[Maverick]

Originally posted by jiggybabymiggz
Maverick: Kakilala ko sila dahil mga naging kaklase ko sila and they're the best in our batch sa IE, pero I doubt na kakilala nila ako. So, just tell them na may isang IE na nangungumusta sa kanila. Anyways, kung ma-hire naman ako e magkakakilanlan din tayo, 'di ba? I also heard from an ex-officemate na kabarkada ni Pia Mendoza na nandyan na raw si Pia Mendoza (bagong hire lang din siya e). About the hiring process, how long does it take? Kasi, right now I don't have a job pero I have many pending applications. Pero, of course, I definitely consider Andersen. And one more thing, hindi naman ako matalino maging Dean's Lister? Is this a factor para ma-hire sa AC? I definitely am hoping my work experience for two years would suit AC's needs?

:D



sige, makakarating. yup, pia mendoza is already here, although di kami magkakilala. nakita ko lang na taga-mapua siya through the office directory.

you don't have to be a dean's lister para ma-hire ng accenture. what you need to do is give your interviewers the impression that you have what it takes to deliver value to the clients. but, still, you have to back that up with hard work once you're hired, di ba?

[ƒREQUENCY]

So, I qualified for that second interview after all... The thing is, I now understand what some posters here have been lamenting, i.e., the Passport, NBI Clearance, NSO Birth Certificate & SSS Stuff requirements. It would really take time to get these all together, but I know in time I would... In the mean time, I have yet to graduate and I wish everyone all the best!

[Maverick]

congrats ƒREQUENCY! sana tuluy-tuloy na yan. :D

[KINA]

namimili ba ng school ang ac?

[eli]

hindi namimili.

although if u come from a less reputable school, u really have to impress the people who interview u, coz ur up against grads from top universities.

one things sure, if ur experienced, the school is not a concern. work experience na tinitingnan.

[KINA]

eli: im a fresh grad... no experience pa .. :boom:

[Clinique]

Ok, I already took the exam, and fortunately, I passed :)

Now, I am just waiting to be scheduled for the 1st interview? Is it really like that na they don't have a definite schedule yet even though I passed it na? (Hi Jon, did they call you up na? How was it?) The HR told me na it was not her kasi who would interview me so she would not yet know the schedule unless the 1st person to interview me has set a date na. How long would it usually take from the time that I was informed about the test results? The HR told me that she would call me back as soon as the schedule is set. Hmm...Am I praning if I think that they are just saying this in order not to break the news that I did not pass pala?? Just thinkin...

I noticed that frequency got her 1st interview last january and 2nd interview this march...tagal rin ng gap a...recruiment process is long talaga ah...BTW, hope you could give me an idea what really happened on the 1st interview. 30 minutes lang ba? Frequency, mind if you share your story? Just asking for more tips...thanks! :)

Due to the long recruitment process, I have a dilemma...Kasi, I also have applied to other companies, and fortunately, they are accepting me na...but I can't accept the offer since Accenture is my 1st choice. Actually, I am sort of taking the risk by rejecting those offers and hoping that I could be part of Accenture. (Malas ko nalang pag di pala ko natanggap ng Ac...Oh no!!)

How long would this process usually take? ...nakakahinayang rin naman kasi yung other offers kung sakali Accenture does not accept me. Now I am confused on what to do...ok lang kaya kunin ko muna yung other offers as back-up? (Kaso parang ang sama naman...half-heartedly ko lang tatanggapin yung job...yoko ata...baka makarma ko...) What do you guys think??? If you were me, what would you do?

I would really appreciate your insights/ suggestions/ reactions/ tips/ whatsoever...Thanks!!!

[jon]

Originally posted by Clinique
Ok, I already took the exam, and fortunately, I passed :)

Now, I am just waiting to be scheduled for the 1st interview? Is it really like that na they don't have a definite schedule yet even though I passed it na? (Hi Jon, did they call you up na? How was it?) The HR told me na it was not her kasi who would interview me so she would not yet know the schedule unless the 1st person to interview me has set a date na. How long would it usually take from the time that I was informed about the test results? The HR told me that she would call me back as soon as the schedule is set. Hmm...Am I praning if I think that they are just saying this in order not to break the news that I did not pass pala?? Just thinkin...

I noticed that frequency got her 1st interview last january and 2nd interview this march...tagal rin ng gap a...recruiment process is long talaga ah...BTW, hope you could give me an idea what really happened on the 1st interview. 30 minutes lang ba? Frequency, mind if you share your story? Just asking for more tips...thanks! :)

Due to the long recruitment process, I have a dilemma...Kasi, I also have applied to other companies, and fortunately, they are accepting me na...but I can't accept the offer since Accenture is my 1st choice. Actually, I am sort of taking the risk by rejecting those offers and hoping that I could be part of Accenture. (Malas ko nalang pag di pala ko natanggap ng Ac...Oh no!!)

How long would this process usually take? ...nakakahinayang rin naman kasi yung other offers kung sakali Accenture does not accept me. Now I am confused on what to do...ok lang kaya kunin ko muna yung other offers as back-up? (Kaso parang ang sama naman...half-heartedly ko lang tatanggapin yung job...yoko ata...baka makarma ko...) What do you guys think??? If you were me, what would you do?

I would really appreciate your insights/ suggestions/ reactions/ tips/ whatsoever...Thanks!!!


Hi Clinique! Yup matagal talaga.... I took the test early Feb, then they called me up last last week. They told me to expect for a call within 2 weeks for the schedule.

I already have a job right now in a dotcom, and I'm happy with it. But I'll still take those interviews to keep my options open. I just can't gamble with Accenture right now, wala namang kasing assurance that you'll get in when you pass the exam.

What kind of work do you expect in Accenture?? By the way, san ka nag-grad???

[Clinique]

Originally posted by jon
What kind of work do you expect in Accenture?? By the way, san ka nag-grad???


Hey Jon! Thanks for the reply! Well, of course I am expecting to start as a programmer....and eventually be inclined to management consulting. I plan to stay long-term, if ever accepted...

I am really interested in their trainings (whether here or abroad...doesn't really matter) since I am not a graduate of any IT course. I believe I have the potential even though my course is not related...btw, I graduated from DLSU last Feb. Actually, I also got an invitation to take an exam at SVI (heard of it right?). They also offer trainings but contract is longer and I am not really sure about what they offer. I should check out their website later coz I really do not know much about this company but I may try it as well.

Where are you working na? Are they acepting fresh grads without an IT backround? :) Hehe! just a thought! I've read somewhere that you are from DLSU-CSB and took up CA. Is it right??? Bagay ka nga sa company mo ngayon. Good to know that you're enjoying naman!

Siguro nga I should be open to other options in case Accenture does not accept me. Parang nasasayang na nga yung time while waiting e. Sayang din yung other offers which I declined already...I'll just wait nalang for other offers. Sana meron pa... :)

[Clinique]

Hmm, it has been 1 month and 1 week since I got the results. Parang tagal lang ng 1st interview...It has not been set yet e. Is this normal?

[lord eira]

too early. two months is normal. :D

[Clinique]

Thanks lord eira! Hay, at least di na ko masyado nagwoworry. :)

[DaNa8]

I took the exam Oct last year and had my interview Nov. The HR assigned for UST grads left their company so our papers were assigned to another one. Unfortunately, my files were lost. She said she'll call me when she finds it. Four of my classmates are already working there though. So do expect for a long application process. I accepted the job offer in SVI though. I could not wait for Accenture forever.

[angst]

Ang bagal talaga ng recruitment process nila. Imagine this, I had my 1st interview last November pa. I was supposed to have my 2nd interview last January but it was postponed. The contact person assigned for Ateneo left the company and so I was assigned to another person. Then, last February they called and asked for numerous requirements. Since, finals weeks namin noong time na yon, I did not process my requirements that time. Finally, I got my requirements first week of April. Then, I had my 2nd interview kanina. Well, the interviewer told me to wait for their call 3 weeks later! Duh! Ang tagal. Hello, I already have a job now. On leave nga lang ako for 2 weeks para makapaghanap ng ibang jobs. And maghihintay pa ako ng 3 weeks. Duh!

[leelayce]

i wonder where angel j is working


sana sagutin nya, if ever the pexer comes back and gets to read this

[kaila]

actually Accenture is a company that could you give a lot training and experience. kaya lang it has a 2 year contract which means that you are tied up with them even though you hate ur job Ü. second, is that they overworked and underpaid. they often go overtime without compensation... trust me, a lot of my barkada work there and some do enjoy their work but others wanna get out of the company ASAP... Ü

;) :) :p :cool:

[tina11]

yup, i know someone who quit after 6 months and paid the fee (50,000 ba?) just to get out of there. and their HR is lousy, honestly speaking. they often "lose" application forms and don't even apologize! they just ask you to send another copy.

http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/otn/animals/bl_paw.gif

[yellowbumblebee]

why not --- because of the two years!
as everyone knows, every new employee has to complete 2 years of work, or else you have to pay a certain amount.

why not --- you start as a programmer!
that if the entry level job! if you don't like programming, this ain't the job for you. pero may training naman eh.

why go --- decent pay... and at least they are hiring! most of the companies right now are freeze hiring... so if you wanna remain jobless for a long time, eh di don't apply to accenture!

why go --- the people are ok naman, and the compensation benefits are great!

[angelU]

i received this email from accenture:

APPLICATION FOR EMPLOYMENT

Thank you for considering employment with our Organization. We have
reviewed your credentials carefully in connection with our current
requirements. Regretfully, we are unable to consider you for a suitable
position at this time, but should an opportunity arise in the future, we
will certainly contact you.

haay... nakakadepress. :(

i wasn't pursuing my application. i only passed my resume during one of the job fairs i attended so i wasn't interviewed or anything like that. the sad part is that their hr already concluded i was unqualified.

this is quite depressing for me since i have always considered software development as one of my strengths, that being the focus of my undergraduate thesis. meanwhile, they have been contacting several other people - even those who do not have programming background or those who aren't even graduates yet.

it's just really discouraging since i worked really hard to earn my degree from a tough school and finish on time. well.. i guess they have their own principles for choosing their applicants. seesh :depressed: dapat makasanayan ko na to. being a fresh grad applying to several companies, i'm sure there will be more rejection letters to come.

:angel:

[FarOutFreak]

Man, this thread got me thinking about whether or not I should go into Accenture...

:silly:

[Tsutsu]

angelU: twas just bad luck for you. sometimes you can't really define what sort of elimination process they use. i'm sure you're technically inclined but they might just prefer non-technical people working for their IT projects. It's the best way to prolong the project and earn more moolah. :rolleyes:

[tr|n|ty]

shouldnt this thread title be changed to Accenture? Arthur Andersen which used to own Andersen Consulting (now Accenture) is changing their name to Andersen in September. People might mistake this as AA not AC(now Accenture). just a suggestion :) The brand Andersen is owned by Arthur Andersen LLP. Accenture and Andersen have totally different client focus.

[KuyaDanny]

Title has been changed as suggested by tr|n|ty. However, tr|n|ty should enlighten everybody here by explaining the difference in client focus between Andersen and Accenture. This moderator really wants to know.

[tr|n|ty]

uy shempre napa sabak naman ako di ba? :lol:

ok ok..sheesh

Andersen Consulting now Accenture used to be the IT consulting arm of Arthur Andersen LLP. Accenture offers a range of products that are technology related including outsourcing, alliances and venture capital. Long before the Tech bust of 2000, AC was making most of the money for Arthur Andersen. Being confident about the arm's profitability, they decided to be a totally different entity from Arthur Andersen. Breaking away from the AA family, the AC group lost in its battle to keep the Andersen brand, thus the name change to Accenture. This was how i understood the whole process...not that i work for either of the two hehehehe As for Arthur Andersen(soon to be Andersen), it is a professional services firm which includes Assurance, Business consulting, Corporate finance, Human Capital, Legal services, Risk consulting and it's main thrust for Tax and Audit Consulting. It is part of what the business world calls the "big 5"(which also includes PriceWaterhouseCoopers, Ernst and Young, Deloitte and Touche, KPMG)

[gemyl]

so........are they still hiring people?

[angst]

Accenture is still hiring people.

[gemyl]

really? can I ask what position? Im into programming, currently employed as web developer.....do u think i have a chance?

[freestylah]

Basta ako i'll be starting in Accenture this Aug. 27, i think
it will be great. I have that excited feeling when i was an in-coming freshman noong college. Kaso lang traumatic yung medical exam sa Accenture. (Basta yun na yun, kahit medical purposes ganun pa din yun....ayoko)

[Witty]

got a letter from accenture. Currently, a senior student, major in computer science..... got an Personal Data Sheet (Entry-level applicants) form and a pre-employment test sked form. What's the difference between forms? mataas na ba chance ko mapasok sa accenture? :D Pwede na ako magwork kahit walang degree? (damn thesis!) heheh :D

If ever I take the pre-employment exam... and assuming i get i high grade... what now? What's the Personal Data Sheet (Entry-level applicants) form for? di ba parang nag-aapply na ako sa accenture nun?

need answers :D

[na_ans]

hi guys! oow.. buhay pa pala 'tong thread na 'to...

for those who are asking how accenture's hr are doing the application "elimination" process,,, well --that really depends. initially, they separate fresh grads from experienced applicants... for fresh grads, they will be grilling your TOR's, checking out the school where you came from as well as your experiences in school. i guess that's basically those things. for experienced applicants, educational backgroud does'nt really matter much.. what matters are the experiences from past jobs.

for missing applications, hhmmm.. i dunno how to justify that. almost everyone in accenture's hr recruitment are contractual employees --but of course, that does not necessarily mean that they are incompetent. just don't judge accenture employees by the stuff that the people from recruitments had done to you.

as far as i know, accenture (phils.) is still hiring people. it's kinda tough to determine what they really want from you during the interviews.. they're looking for the such charecteristics that an accenture employee must possess. they'll squeeze you out to know you better. that's it.

about the news naman regarding contract, hmm... once you were sent training overseas, you'll get a 2 year contract. pag assignment overseas, walang contract. honestly, di naman kayo babaratin (excuse the word) or something. accenture is fair in terms of employee benefits, salary, rewards. sa mga hindi magagandang assignments, well, i think they will offer something to you and it's up to you if you'll accept it. almost everything in your career in accenture is a matter of your decision... so think what you really wanna do with your career coz your success is in your hands.

for all the applicants out there, good luck! ~*~

[Nocturnal]

OK Yan, di ba Orange Aberin is in AC ?!?

Hmmmmm.....sa mga taga AC - post naman kayo ng pic ni Orange in business outfit. Sige na ha! Kinda interesting to see her in a sexy suit. Har Har.:D

[angst]

I started working for Accenture last May and I'm currently here in St. Charles, Illinois for training. So far, so good. It was definitely a good decision to turn down offers from other companies.

[Uncle Bob]

Originally posted by na_ans
for experienced applicants, educational backgroud does'nt really matter much.. what matters are the experiences from past jobs.


Are you sure? I submitted my resume with 2 1/2 years of experience in I.T. and they rejected it because they told me to include a soft copy of my transcript. They also told me that same process goes to newly grad and experience applicants. Then what is the advantage of having a working experience? No wonder the process there is too slow.

[na_ans]

one more thing about the contract ->> 2 year contract on overseas training only applies to ANALYST level. if you're a consultant/above consultant, no contracts are applied. FYI

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[na_ans]

Originally posted by Uncle Bob


Are you sure? I submitted my resume with 2 1/2 years of experience in I.T. and they rejected it because they told me to include a soft copy of my transcript. They also told me that same process goes to newly grad and experience applicants. Then what is the advantage of having a working experience? No wonder the process there is too slow.

hi Uncle Bob! the requirements for experienced applicants and fresh grads are the same. you still have to submit, TOR, college diploma, clearance from school/rfrom previous employer... stuff like those... the difference is that, if you're an experienced applicant, you need not take the exam coz it's specifically for newly grads or those applicants w/experience but not relevant to the positions opened in accenture.

the process may be the same but the standards are different. the advantage of having a working experience is that when a project urgently needed your skills, then you'll be in front of the line. the process seems to be slow because you have to complete at least 4 interviews. that's it...

btw, accenture might not consider your 2 1/2 yrs. of IT working experience as it is... they have such standards and those years might be credited to only 1 year if you'll be in. don't be frustrated if that would be the case. once you're in, you'll understand that it's fair enough.:D

[DarthScully]

i was being considered for Andersen Consulting (now Accenture) last year, but another company offered me a job first. big mistake since i didn't even last long in that other company. can anybody here at least give me a range of what Accenture is offering for salary? i'm applying there again eh.

[calfarme]

hello!

i was going through PEX when i saw this thread. quite interesting discussion you have here :)

i have a concern about my application with Accenture. sana masagot nina Maverick and all other pipol from Accenture etong concern ko na 'to.

i finished my 1st interview with Ac. after nun, di pa ulit sila tumawag, so i decided na tawagan yung person in-charge of my application. when i called her, sabi nya, nasa ACTIVE FILE daw yung application ko kasi nawala na raw yung demand for the project kung saan nagma-match yung qualifications ko.

when i asked her if that was an outright rejection of my application(read:di ako nakapasa sa 1st interview), sabi nya HINDI DAW. they will call me again as soon as there's a project demand that will match my qualifications.....that's why they put me in ACTIVE FILE.

may mga ganun ba talagang cases? or was that a polite way of saying na i didn't pass the 1st interview and that that was the end of my application with the company?

also, is that the same reason kung bakit matagal yung hiring ng Ac? na minsan along the process of hiring e nawawala yung project demand that matches an applicant's qualifications, tapos saka lang ulit magkaka-demand after a month or so?

Accenture pipol, pakisagot naman.

Thanks!

[Maverick]

hi calfarme. :wave: i'm not familiar of the technicalities of that so-called ACTIVE FILE that you've mentioned, but i think that your application is still in good shape. it just has to wait for the project that best fits your qualifications. i believe the current economy slowdown in the US contributes to these kinds of cases. maybe the client of the project you're being considered for evaluated their costs and decided that they're not yet gonna get a new person. there are a lot of possibilities that can affect your application status. be patient.

however, put in mind that getting accenture personnel from manila is considerably cheaper than getting someone from, let's say, the US. this can mean more opportunities for people from manila to get the jobs that are currently assigned to those from other countries. kumbaga sa mga kliyente, you get the same quality of work (most of the time better), you get delivered the same value, tapos mas makakamura pa sila. that's why the manila office (particularly the solution center) still hires people while the other offices freezes their hirings. :D

[calfarme]

thanks maverick:)

sana malaman ko talaga yung totoong status ng application ko. sana may tiga-HR from Accenture na makabasa ng post ko and sana masagot nya yung tanong.

dun sa mga nakapag-second interview, did you call Ac or kayo yung tinawagan for your scheduled second interview?

or meron bang naka-experience senyo nung after 1st interview na-active file kayo pero tinawagan pa rin kayo ng Ac kasi may dumating na opening?

sorry if i sound makulit....guto ko lang talaga malaman yung status ng application ko

maybe other Ac pipol in this thread can post their comments on this....

thanks-a-lot!

[indig0]

hi calfarme! based on my own experience when i applied here, i undergone 6 (or 7) interviews. medyo na-shock nga ako kasi ang dami-dami naman.. then nung matanggap ako, i realized that hr gave my application docs sa dalawang projects. mas mataas ang requirement dun sa isang project so dun ako natanggap and until now, dito pa rin ako.

i think hr did not turned down your applications. maverick is right --be patient . but of course if there are other opportunities for you, try to consider those... :turncat:

[Chad]

Just to clarify the reason behind the "changing of the name" from Andersen Consulting to Accenture. :)

Andersen Consulting (which handles Consulting and Outsourcing) and Arthur Andersen (which handles Taxation and Audit) are two companies under the "holding" company (for lack of a better term) Andersen Worldwide. There was a clear demarcation of responsibilities -- AC or AA could not do anything that would infringe on the other's business (e.g. AC could not do Tax work).

However, since in the past few years of so, AC has been the more profitable company as compared to AA, AA decided to put up "Arthur Andersen Busines Consulting" (I'm not sure if that's the exact name) which overlapped into the business of AC. It already came to a point where the people from AC would present a proposal to a prospective client, but the client would tell them "AABusiness Consulting already gave us that." So there was a conflict of interest already. AC complained to Andersen Worldwide but they didn't do anything. So, AC filed a complaint with an international arbiter against AA and AW. In the end, the arbiter decided that AC could separate itself from Andersen Worldwide and Arthur Andersen without having to pay the $1 billion in separation fee, since AA and AW were clearly at fault. However, the only caveat was that AC had to change its name by January 1 2001 -- AA and AW could use the brand "Andersen" for its own. So, after an intense 3-month rebranding effort, AC changed its name to Accenture.

:) That's all folks.

:bop:
:borg:
Chad

[Tsutsu]

Originally posted by DarthScully
i was being considered for Andersen Consulting (now Accenture) last year, but another company offered me a job first. big mistake since i didn't even last long in that other company. can anybody here at least give me a range of what Accenture is offering for salary? i'm applying there again eh.

P16,000 with no overtime pay. :)

[simmie]

wow... :wow:
this thread brings back old memories :beam:

anyway, if anyone is still intrested...
you'd want to go to accenture because of the culture and the way people treat each other...
you'll really feel like you're a part of a big and caring family.

:D

[angst]

Originally posted by simmie
wow... :wow:
this thread brings back old memories :beam:

anyway, if anyone is still intrested...
you'd want to go to accenture because of the culture and the way people treat each other...
you'll really feel like you're a part of a big and caring family.

:D

Oh my god! I'm so surprised to hear something like this. :rolleyes: If you only knew our horror stories, you would even think twice before saying that "you'll really feel like you're a part of a big and caring family." We work like slaves here. By the way, most if not all of my teammates really hate our current situation to the point that we are currently finding ways on how to get out of our project.

[Maverick]

it all depends on the project, angst. it all depends on the project... :D

[wiz_gandalf]

angst, I think I know which project you are in :D , well there are always exception to the rules .. as they say "Business needs always comes first" :hopeless:

But one thing I like about Accenture best is that the management do listen (most managers at least) to your request and they exert effort to make their people happy and make it a great place to work (unless of course .. extreme business need :( )

Angst, Maybe you can try to bring up your "slavery" case to your managers (and put a pressure on them to do something :D) and I'm sure they will listen and will exert effort to make the situation better. If it still doesn't work, akyat niyo na sa partners .. hehehe :superevil:

[angel02]

Just to answer the question re: ACTIVE FILE thing.

Being on active file means that the person is not suitable for the position being offered at the time he/she is being processed. It may mean that a certain project didn't pushed thru or HR had shorlisted all the candidates. Of course, shortlisting really happens during the process of the recruiting stage. But this doesn't necessarily mean that the person is totally "rejected". It just means that temporarily, Accenture cannot accomodate them. So don't be surprised if HR will call you again to ask if you are still interested to pursue your application with them after putting you in active file.

Hope this helps.

[indig0]

Originally posted by angst


Oh my god! I'm so surprised to hear something like this. :rolleyes: If you only knew our horror stories, you would even think twice before saying that "you'll really feel like you're a part of a big and caring family." We work like slaves here. By the way, most if not all of my teammates really hate our current situation to the point that we are currently finding ways on how to get out of our project.

hey angst! i sympathize with you... but of course comparing your situation as that of a "slave" is too much i guess. you've got to do something about it. don't sit there 'til you're fully demoralized. talk to your counselor... that's what they are for.

:enlightened:

[baste]

Originally posted by angst
I started working for Accenture last May and I'm currently here in St. Charles, Illinois for training. So far, so good. It was definitely a good decision to turn down offers from other companies.


hehehe so far so good pa ba?! hehehe................

[baste]

Originally posted by indig0


hey angst! i sympathize with you... but of course comparing your situation as that of a "slave" is too much i guess. you've got to do something about it. don't sit there 'til you're fully demoralized. talk to your counselor... that's what they are for.

:enlightened:


talk to your counselor.... yup.... but they can't transfer you to another project.....

[baste]

Back to the question.... why/why not go to accenture.....

why?!.... the pay is relatively higher compared to other company.. in fact much higher

why not?!... may overtime work wala namang overtime pay....

why?!... free ice tea, juice, coffee...

why not?!.... wala namang mug na paglalagyan ng free ice tea, juice at cofee

why?!... may pantry sa top floor...

why not?! .. wala ka namang makain sa pantry sa top floor....

why?!... may training abroad, ST CHARLES in CHICAGO

why not?!... ngayon wala nang training....

why?!.... may basketball court and badminton court sa may likod...

why not?! .... ang mahal ng renta.. parang araneta colesium yung ni rent mo...

why?!... open 24 hours a day 7 days a week...

why not?!.... ibig sabhin pwede kang mag trabaho 24 hours a day 7 days a week....

why?!... sa friday pwede kahit ano suot mo....

why not?!... kapag di ka naka business casual on a friday papauwiin ka ng bahay

why?!... madami "daw" magaganda at gwapito.....

why not?!... "DAW" lang yun eh...

why?!... may chance makapag work abroad....
why, why?! ... mag TNT ka na lang dun....


all i can say.. if you do enter ACCENTURE.... cherish mo na lang yung time mo kapag nasa 2nd or first floor ka doing CBT.....

ACCENTURE a great place to work...... hmmm.. ano ba yun question or statement?!....... DEPENDE kung saan ka mapunta... but for sure...... if your in ACCENTURE you have more chances.... chances mag TNT... hehehehe .... but honestly.... ACCENTURE is a great place to start your career....

yun lang!!!

[indig0]

Originally posted by baste



talk to your counselor.... yup.... but they can't transfer you to another project.....

why are you so sure? sometimes they can.. that really depends on the situation. if you tell them your agonies they'll understand you and your future actions.

[indig0]

Originally posted by baste
Back to the question.... why/why not go to accenture.....

why?!.... the pay is relatively higher compared to other company.. in fact much higher

why not?!... may overtime work wala namang overtime pay....

why?!... free ice tea, juice, coffee...

why not?!.... wala namang mug na paglalagyan ng free ice tea, juice at cofee

why?!... may pantry sa top floor...

why not?! .. wala ka namang makain sa pantry sa top floor....

why?!... may training abroad, ST CHARLES in CHICAGO

why not?!... ngayon wala nang training....

why?!.... may basketball court and badminton court sa may likod...

why not?! .... ang mahal ng renta.. parang araneta colesium yung ni rent mo...

why?!... open 24 hours a day 7 days a week...

why not?!.... ibig sabhin pwede kang mag trabaho 24 hours a day 7 days a week....

why?!... sa friday pwede kahit ano suot mo....

why not?!... kapag di ka naka business casual on a friday papauwiin ka ng bahay

why?!... madami "daw" magaganda at gwapito.....

why not?!... "DAW" lang yun eh...

why?!... may chance makapag work abroad....
why, why?! ... mag TNT ka na lang dun....


all i can say.. if you do enter ACCENTURE.... cherish mo na lang yung time mo kapag nasa 2nd or first floor ka doing CBT.....

ACCENTURE a great place to work...... hmmm.. ano ba yun question or statement?!....... DEPENDE kung saan ka mapunta... but for sure...... if your in ACCENTURE you have more chances.... chances mag TNT... hehehehe .... but honestly.... ACCENTURE is a great place to start your career....

yun lang!!!

Baste, TNT ka ba? your posts sound pathetic...

[GerardMartin]

Huh, received a letter this morning hindi daw ako tanggap, had already my second interview, by a techie....dunno why.

hindi naman sa pagmamayabang, i know for sure na mas mataas pa yung skill level ko sa kanya. They are in web devt. right now, and he discussed me their proj., the technology they used, and how they implemented it. Kaya ayun, na gauge ko agad na simpleng web application lang yun at hindi pa efficient yung implementation(based from Microsoft DNA).

Mukhang nasayang yung pinagsasabi ko about B2B/A2A integration, mobile application devt., specially distributed apps, at n tier devt., dahil hindi naman nila pinapractice...
Hindi pa nga ata alam business layer/ data access layer, kaya ayun sa ASP page mismo nagconnect sa DB... :hopeless:

[calfarme]

hello!!!

salamat sa lahat ng nag-post about when your application is put in the ACTIVE FILE.

i got a letter from Ac, telling me that yun nga nasa active file daw ako. feeling ko talaga hopeless na yung application ko, meaning no chance na talaga ako to go into Ac.

sabi kasi nung friend ko na nag-interview na rin sa Ac na once nakatanggap ka na ng letter from the HR ibig sabihin nun turned-down na talaga yung application mo. so hayun, give-up na talaga ako.

totoo ba yung sinabi ni baste na wala ng training ngayon sa St. Charles?

[Maverick]

Originally posted by calfarme
totoo ba yung sinabi ni baste na wala ng training ngayon sa St. Charles?

unfortunately, yes. pero pwede ka pa rin mapadala sa st. charles depending on your availability, business need, the market unit's (i think) budget, and some parameters which i am not fully aware of.

[baste]

yup.. depende sa business needs.... pwede kang mapadala sa abroad...
but right now... sobrang cut back sa costs ewan ko lang kung mapadala ka outside manila.....
and i do mean SOBRANG CUT BACK....

[baste]

Originally posted by indig0


Baste, TNT ka ba? your posts sound pathetic...

wow.. yun na yung comeback mo?! yun lang?! *** dapat mag TNT.... isip ka muna ng pang reply... hirit ng hirit wala namang ibubuga eh...

[baste]

Originally posted by indig0


why are you so sure? sometimes they can.. that really depends on the situation. if you tell them your agonies they'll understand you and your future actions.

ows... talaga... siga palipat ka na ng company.....

[indig0]

Originally posted by baste


wow.. yun na yung comeback mo?! yun lang?! *** dapat mag TNT.... isip ka muna ng pang reply... hirit ng hirit wala namang ibubuga eh...

not only your reply sounds pathetic... so do you. :scream:

[indig0]

Originally posted by baste


ows... talaga... siga palipat ka na ng company.....

baste, your posts are revealing the person you are. i don't see why you're so pessimistic and i can't do anything about it. the least you can do is not to make others think negatively as you do. you're the captain of yourself and you're responsible for your own misery.

[Maverick]

o, cool lang kayo people. please do not allow this thread to degenerate into a flaming exchange.

please, let's all get back to the topic - why/why not go to accenture.

[Awasha_Nadine]

Not to take sides or anything, but I think I know where Baste is coming from. Although, in general, Accenture is a great place to work, it does not apply to all the personnel we have. Some higher-up people are 'not-so-great-people-to-work-with'. And sometimes, because you have been committed to a project for a certain amount of time, even your counselor can't do anything to change your situation.

But, in fairness, Indigo is right. We are the captain of ourselves.

And I don't think Baste is trying to implicate the whole Accenture for the crime....just showing the other side of the coin.

As for myself, I believe that Accenture management tries, to the best of their abilities, to maintain the 'great place to work' attitude. Some things are just uncontrollable. And sometimes, griping about it doesn't really help. We, who are a bit disillusioned, just want to let out a bit of steam. :hopeless:

[GerardMartin]

my application was judged by a biased technical person and not by your company perse....

[dudung]

Sa project namin dati wherein we contracted a whole team of consultants from Accenture to help us rollout an ERP system, naawa ako doon sa local consultants. They do all the work.

Iyong mga counterparts nila from the US who travelled into the country and are supposed to co-work with them eh puro porma lang. Parang R&R sila. Ang aga nila umuwi tapos iniiwan nila yun locals sa office namin.

The local Accenture consultant poured her heart out to me. Totoo nga. Grabe kung utus-utusan sila nung mga US counterparts nila and to think dapat pantay-pantay lang sila. :rolleyes:

Pero I am not generalizing. I'm just citing a case I've witnessed. Sana po hindi ganito sa lahat ng Accenture. :(

[indig0]

Originally posted by Maverick
o, cool lang kayo people. please do not allow this thread to degenerate into a flaming exchange.

please, let's all get back to the topic - why/why not go to accenture.

oh, i really have no plans to further inflict baste's pain. all of us are in the same ship and that's what we all have in common. that's it for now. and you're right, let's go back to the topic.

[baste]

Originally posted by indig0


baste, your posts are revealing the person you are. i don't see why you're so pessimistic and i can't do anything about it. the least you can do is not to make others think negatively as you do. you're the captain of yourself and you're responsible for your own misery.


wow.. may pa captain captian ka pa dyan... ano ka tumutula?!
oh captain my captain.. ang galing.. bagay ka sa grade 1...

[baste]

Originally posted by indig0


not only your reply sounds pathetic... so do you. :scream:

ano ba yan.. wag mo masyado ibuka bibig mo.... nakakahiya... amoy na amoy eh....

[baste]

Originally posted by indig0


oh, i really have no plans to further inflict baste's pain. all of us are in the same ship and that's what we all have in common. that's it for now. and you're right, let's go back to the topic.

sige back to the topic

why?! .. it a place full of great people

why not?! .. andyan si indigo

[angst]

Indigo, by reading your posts, I have this idea that you really like your project and your project has good working conditions. Fine. Good for you.

But you have to understand that some people are not as fortunate as you are. Baste and I are from the same project and I can really relate to his misfortunes. Our project is not that exciting. We work really long hours and we don't receive any compensation for that. We have unreasonable managers.

We're not saying that Accenture is a "bad place to work" as a whole. What we're saying is that people should not readily believe publicity. I know that Accenture is being marketed as a "great place to work." Before you believe that, let other "unfortunate people" speak up about their experiences first. By then, you will have an informed judgement about the issue

[indig0]

Guys, I’m also aware of the flaws of Accenture. I’m not trying to imply that I’m in a better project coz I don’t know where you’re in. Who knows, maybe you’re in a better project than mine. Ang sa akin lang, I want to give you hope and brighten your perspective. I admit that I get bored sometimes and there are also times that I have to work ‘til I pass out… or even on Christmas eve I’m still bothered with office problems… If we let the bad side put us down, then our minds won’t be able to focus on the days ahead. Why not add value to yourself so when you get out of Accenture you’ll be able to acquire loads of opportunities. Same as the others, I’m open in leaving Accenture for greener pastures.

[baste]

hmmm... okee... tama yung sinabi mo....
christmas eve.. still bothered with problems with work.. hmm baka same tayo ng project!!!
christmas eve, new year... pati holidays na walang pasok may pasok.... etc etc etc....
now i am not surprised why people are leaving the company after aqcuiring experience.... you have to be in the right place at the right time with the right knowledge... if you lack one.. you aint going no where here.... or it will take you such a long time.....
I guess we'll just have to live with what we have right now... until the time where in we have an option to do something....
INDIGO.. about what you said.. our project might be better than yours... hmmm i guarantee you, i'm a 100% sure it isn't!
Opps para sa mga HR na nag babasa basa dyan sa tabi tabi.. na ayaw naman mag reply... comment naman kayo on what you really think..... Is accenture a great place to work in?! or it just depends on the project?!

[indig0]

I think HR has nothing to do with this coz they don’t have a first hand experience on what it feels to be working on a specific project. All HR can give are documents that prove how it is good to be with this company.

You might have a 2 yr contract too that’s why you can’t get out with your current situation. If I were you, just stay calm and try to get hold of the situation.

Why is it good to be in Accenture?
You’ll be paid higher… and it’ll be much higher each year based on how you performed on your job. The company have ample benefits for you and even for your family. You have better career growth opportunities (depending on the project and your personality to handle things). When you get out and have Accenture written in your resume then you have a higher chance to be treated well than the others who don’t (let’s face it but that happens).

Why not?
Like in other companies, there are some not-so-good peepz hanging around who can make your day miserable. Boredom may come at times or the irony of it. Right now Accenture is tight on expenses due to the world’s current economic situation (again, like the others) so don’t expect out-of-the-country trainings (for the moment).

I have to explain the removal of OT payments. It was removed ( I think that was last-last year, just correct me if I’m wrong) but during that fiscal year, employee salary was increased 50% or even higher. So for those who were employed after this change happened, they would think that this is really unfair. It’s just a matter of timing I guess and that’s pretty bad if you can’t do anything about it. But of course before you enter the company, everything will be briefed to you and you have a choice on whether to sign that employment sheet or not. It’s the candidate’s judgement that’ll prevail...

[Tifosi]

May mga kaopisina pala ako dito eh!:teehee:

"Managing expectations" is the key here. You really can't expect much in terms of projects or anything, for right business is REALLY SLOW . Right now unassigned ako ngayon, and hindi na ko nakaabot sa training abroad:( Damn terrorists!!!:chainsaw:

I'm just going with the flow so to speak, trying to keep busy. Thank God may "project" kami ngayon, or I'll be bored out of my wits. Sinasamantala ko na lang ngayon ang mga inaaral ko kasi pagnagka totoong project na ko pukpukan na:bop:

Working here is okay, given the varied opportunities for training.

Luck plays a strong part too as to how one's career plans in Accenture would blossom.

Yun lang po:drive:

[BLU519]

wow.. hindi lang pala ako ang nag pPex during office hours.

sana may charge number na to soon. hehe
*pexadik*

[baste]

Originally posted by BLU519
wow.. hindi lang pala ako ang nag pPex during office hours.

sana may charge number na to soon. hehe
*pexadik* .


meron na noh.. 6750x00 charge number...
pero walang OT charges ha.. nagtitipid tayo ngayon

[BLU519]

Originally posted by baste
.
meron na noh.. 6750x00 charge number...
pero walang OT charges ha.. nagtitipid tayo ngayon



****... sayang.. ito pa naman ang dahilan kung bakit ako nag o OT ako eh. :juggler:

i see... taga 6750 ka rin. hehehe

[baste]

Originally posted by BLU519




****... sayang.. ito pa naman ang dahilan kung bakit ako nag o OT ako eh. :juggler:

i see... taga 6750 ka rin. hehehe


aha taga 6750 ka pala! :-d
nope hindi ako taga 6750....
so CIO ka?!

[BLU519]

Originally posted by baste



aha taga 6750 ka pala! :-d
nope hindi ako taga 6750....
so CIO ka?!

hinde...ano ko.. ahmm.. caltex.
hehehehe

[angst]

Originally posted by BLU519




****... sayang.. ito pa naman ang dahilan kung bakit ako nag o OT ako eh. :juggler:

i see... taga 6750 ka rin. hehehe

Hindi yan taga-6750 si Baste. Taga-mainland yan.

[baste]

Originally posted by BLU519


hinde...ano ko.. ahmm.. caltex.
hehehehe


ayaw po umamin nito.... FUSION ka.. wag ka nang mahiya noh...
ang lamig dito sa mainland!

[BLU519]

Originally posted by baste



ayaw po umamin nito.... FUSION ka.. wag ka nang mahiya noh...
ang lamig dito sa mainland!


hinde... QUANTUM ako.
malamig din dito sa remote area ng 6750...


magtrabaho kayo hoy! :director:

hehe

[baste]

Originally posted by BLU519



hinde... QUANTUM ako.
malamig din dito sa remote area ng 6750...


magtrabaho kayo hoy! :director:

hehe

nag tatrabaho naman kami

[BLU519]

anong MU nyo?

[angst]

Originally posted by baste


nag tatrabaho naman kami

Really? Nagtatrabaho ka ba talaga? :D

[BLU519]

Originally posted by angst


Really? Nagtatrabaho ka ba talaga? :D

aray ko.. ang sakit nun a... :rotflmao:

[baste]

Originally posted by BLU519


aray ko.. ang sakit nun a... :rotflmao:

angst be kind naman.. pati taga ibang proj natatamaan...
be kind ha.. baka isipin nilang wala silang ginagawa....
tara angst uwi na tayo!!! :-d

[baste]

Originally posted by BLU519
anong MU nyo?

la kaming MU... bf meron...

[Awasha_Nadine]

sabi na nga ba, baste, may bf ka e.....hehehe
ang hirap magpanggap dito a.....buti na lang inintroduce ako ni angst sa PEX!!!!:D

[BLU519]

Originally posted by baste

why?!... madami "daw" magaganda at gwapito.....





Ha? grabe na... NASAN SILAAAAAAA?

[BLU519]

masyado na bang sulok tong cube namin at dingding lang ang pinakagwapong nakita ko???

[pretselz]

hello guys/gals...

la lang... just happened to pass by this particular thread ninyo.

dami kayong taga-Accenture na PXers din?

and no, di po ako sa same comp ninyo. napa-daan lang.

:)

[angst]

Originally posted by BLU519




Ha? grabe na... NASAN SILAAAAAAA?

Babaan mo ang iyong standards ng kaunti at makakita ka rin. :D Just remember na 3 buildings na tayo. So, baka kaunti lang yung cute dyan sa building nyo. Just don't generalize.

[BLU519]

sorry.. alin yung pangatlong building?

[baste]

Originally posted by angst


Babaan mo ang iyong standards ng kaunti at makakita ka rin. :D Just remember na 3 buildings na tayo. So, baka kaunti lang yung cute dyan sa building nyo. Just don't generalize.

aba.. mukhang mayroon kang nakitang cutie ha angst?!

pakilalal mo naman kami!

[angst]

Originally posted by BLU519
sorry.. alin yung pangatlong building?

MSE Building
6750
Tower One

[BLU519]

****? kelan pa ang tower one? anong mga projects ang andun?

[Awasha_Nadine]

Matagal nang may Tower One...hehehe...;)

Seriously, though.....sa pagkakaalam ko, un mg nag-training, dun sila. Kasi wala nang space sa MSE or sa 6750......

Ewan ko nga lang kung swerte ang plight nila or hindi.

Anong masasabi mo Angst? hehehe

[angst]

Awasha, it all depends on your preference. Given the chance, ayokong lumipat ng Tower 1. Mas gusto ko dito sa MSE. Mas maraming cutie dito. :D

Baste, no problem. Ipakikilala kita sa mga cuties na yun. (as if di mo sila kilala) :D

[BLU519]

siksikan na sa MSE ah..
yung isa kong frnd, 8 sila sa isang cube (di kasali dun yung nasa manager's area ha)

[Awasha_Nadine]

Siksikan na nga sa MSE. Pero it's a matter of preference, like Angst said.
If you'd rather have workspaces na may dividers or wala, pantry area na may Nescafe coffee dispenser or wala, elevators na mabilis or mabagal, etc., etc., etc.

Chaka malay mo, Angst, one day soon, dumagsa den ang mga 'cuties' na sinasabi mo sa Tower One....

Pero kahit ako, walang nakikitang cutie sa MSE e....Pero sabi nga daw nila maraming cute dito....

Ewan ba if I'm just blind or if people seem to look ordinary once you see them everyday dito sa workplace.

[zeinyse]

hoy baste! bakit ka pa naghahanap ng cutie??? eh di ba..may nakita ka na??? :)

[Tifosi]

hello:D good to see na marami akong kaopisina dito!:teehee:

all i can say is wala kong nakikitang cuties sa tower one, dun ako dati. back to civilization na ko (i.e. MSE), yun nga lang siksikan dito and ang mga elevator sabay sabay nasa taas or nasa baba!!!:chainsaw:

myth lang yung maraming magaganda sa accenture:bop:

[BLU519]

marami trabaho -- oo
marami gwapo -- uhh.. ewan?

[baste]

Originally posted by BLU519
marami trabaho -- oo
marami gwapo -- uhh.. ewan?

meron noh... kami pala ni angst gwapings na eh..hehehe kapal ba

[zeinyse]

Originally posted by baste


meron noh... kami pala ni angst gwapings na eh..hehehe kapal ba


kapal!!! :p

[baste]

Originally posted by zeinyse



kapal!!! :p

inggit ka lang!

[BLU519]

bagal ng server
down ang lotus notes
mamaya down na nyan ang server
brownout pa nung isang araw
di ako nakapagsave
OT na naman
wala teambuilding



:weep:

[baste]

hmmm..... after 2 weeks....
ganun pa din... and getting worst......
mabagal pa din server.....
OT to the max...... wala pa rin OT pay....
haaay......

[fredblair]

Originally posted by baste
hmmm..... after 2 weeks....
ganun pa din... and getting worst......
mabagal pa din server.....
OT to the max...... wala pa rin OT pay....
haaay......

Getting worst? What do you mean? Ok naman dito sa Accenture ah. Nice managers, fast internet connection, exciting work. What more can you ask for?

[BLU519]

Originally posted by fredblair


Getting worst? What do you mean? Ok naman dito sa Accenture ah. Nice managers, fast internet connection, exciting work. What more can you ask for?


sa mga tulad kong reklamador....
:hopeless: :hopeless: :hopeless: :hopeless:

[zeinyse]

Originally posted by fredblair


Getting worst? What do you mean? Ok naman dito sa Accenture ah. Nice managers, fast internet connection, exciting work. What more can you ask for?

ok ha...

*** ba talaga yan...fredblair???:rolleyes:

[carlo22]

hi guys!

i recently had my 4th and second to the last interview with accenture. i'm currently a programmer in another big IT firm (software developer) and would want to transfer to accenture in the hopes of getting better training, salary, and benefits.

from what i've read so far, it seems accenture is not so bad. there is another thread about my company and the reactions are more violent.

anyway, i have 3 years experience and would like to know what to expect if i get a job offer.
- what kind of salary range can i expect the company to offer?
- what is the usual salary range of accenture programmers after 2 - 3 years? i assume it's much higher than the entry level P16,000, right?
- and finally what are the benefits? medical, life, and dental insurance? car loan? please specify.

Thanks a lot!!!:)

[candycandy]

why/why not go to Accenture?

Accenture is my dream company.. dunno pero before pa lang ako gumraduate eh gusto ko nang makapasok sa Ac. I've heard alot of good things about it so sabi ko dun ko gusto magwork and magstay.

Unfortunately, may work ako nung nagsched sila for exam and kamalas malasan talaga... may migraine pa ako at dysmenorrhea!!!! So ayun, hilo to the max ang beauty ko while doing the exam. Hindi ko na rin na resched dahil sabi ko nga kaya ko yung sakit.. Then after nung exam, i forgot kung di yata ako pasado or they will contact me na lang.

I applied for Programmer pero yung exam is for System Analyst.. i dunno kung bakit ganun. well right now, im still hoping pa rin na maging part ng Ac. I really love challenges like what Ac offers to its employees... im just waiting for that great chance.

I have an exam naman sa ROHM LSI Philippines sa mon. Wish me luck guys.. Thanks!!

[eli]

Kung makapasok kayo, sana wag kayo mag-sisi. this isnt a dream job i tell u. it sucks... you're overworked, stressed out and underpaid. :(

[emedia_gal]

u r xactly ryt! ovrwrkd! undrpaid! bad mngment! evrythng n a horor muvi!

lyf in acenture sucks! big time!

[emedia_gal]

IT SUCKS! DAT ALL I HAVE LEFT TO SAY

[Maverick]

like what i've said in a previous post, it all depends on your project. i used to think my project sucked - big time. but that was about two or three years ago. yes, i've been on this project since i was hired, and i don't think i'd get rolled-off in the near future. but i'm not complaining. the project and the people in it have been very good to me. the work, which was once a monotonous black and green mainframe screen, is now spiked by some client-server stuff and web development projects.

now this may sound like "partner talk" and baseless rhetoric to most of my colleagues here, but bear in mind that i am not a part of management nor have i not complained in my more than three years in accenture. i am not in any way defending the company from it's flaws, every company has those, but rather relating my experiences to people who just entered the company and those wanting to get in. my project was once one of the smallest projects in accenture, numbering only about 30 people, including the managers. there were times we never liked the work, which we deemed boring. we felt our growth was stunted. but through it all we stayed the course and soldiered on. we worked hard. we thought positively. these eventually paid off in terms of increased client satisfaction and confidence. this confidence translated into more work for manila. we expanded our portfolio and hired more people. what once was about 30 people is now close to about 150, and still growing. yes, there are still times when we feel we are overworked, underpaid AND undertrained, but we somehow learned to view them as challenges which we can overcome. also, we do not think of "work" as work, but another way to learn new things.

to my officemates here who think that work in accenture "sucks," i think the same way, too. i think that it sometimes sucks, and i also think that it is sometimes fun. i am not telling you not to complain - it is a way to vent your frustrations. i am just advising that hard work will reap its fruits in the future. it is not given immediately after you finish a module, but it will be given. just think positive and work hard (as if you're not working hard na, di ba? hehehe). pray din kayo.

stay cool. :D

[ohmy]

i dunno whats the fuzz about working in accenture/a.c. that deserves 2 or 3 thread bout it.

just like working in any other company, may good points and bad points. whats good for the others might not be good for you. what sucks for others, might just be your golden op.

but if you will just relay on the company to do everything for you, you wont get far. maski microsoft , ibm or cisco pa man.

then again, its just me.

[emedia_gal]

Originally posted by ohmy
i dunno whats the fuzz about working in accenture/a.c. that deserves 2 or 3 thread bout it.

just like working in any other company, may good points and bad points. whats good for the others might not be good for you. what sucks for others, might just be your golden op.

but if you will just relay on the company to do everything for you, you wont get far. maski microsoft , ibm or cisco pa man.

then again, its just me.

oo nga... its just you!

[BLU519]

Originally posted by emedia_gal
u r xactly ryt! ovrwrkd! undrpaid! bad mngment! evrythng n a horor muvi!

lyf in acenture sucks! big time!


evrythng n a horor muvi??

talk about exaggerating things...

so hey miss... y dont u just quit?

[BLU519]

Originally posted by emedia_gal
u r xactly ryt! ovrwrkd! undrpaid! bad mngment! evrythng n a horor muvi!

lyf in acenture sucks! big time!


evrythng n a horor muvi??

talk about exaggerating things...

so hey miss... y dont u just quit?

[BLU519]

:D

[indig0]

Originally posted by BLU519



evrythng n a horor muvi??

talk about exaggerating things...

so hey miss... y dont u just quit?

great... that's what i'm going to ask too!:rolleyes:

[fredblair]

I can sympathize with emedia_gal kapag sinabi nyang gusto nyang mag-resign pero parang hindi pwede. If your contract has not yet expired and you want to resign, you will be compelled to pay 100k. Mabigat yun!

Pero, emedia_gal, bakit ka nagrereklamo sa project mo? Mukhang ok naman yata proj mo eh. From what I've heard, the analysts are so happy with their current tasks and responsibilities. Challenging and fulfilling daw ang project nyo sabi nga mga kasama mo. Mataas pa nga daw score nyo sa satisfaction survey eh.

:D

[BLU519]

kaya nga... before emedia_gal completes her 2nd year, she should start packing up


i was just rolled-in and my project is hard too...
and yes.. i know the feeling of being overworked and underpaid.

but i would never have the audacity of generalizing accenture as an epitome of horror





:D

[candycandy]

Eto lang yan emedia_gal:

Wala tayong kakontentuhang mga tao.. Sala sa init sala sa lamig.
Puro reklamo.. magwork ka na lang tutal kumikita ka naman eh.. ako nga bum how's that???

Be thankful you still have your job miss..

[indig0]

emedia_gal, i have a feeling that accenture is the first company that you've worked for. i hope you've gone somewhere else so you'll be able to compare situations. i sympathize with you if you can't leave too soon. since you've known that fact, i hope you'll be able to make your stay worthwhile.

nobody gets contented in this world... and it's the level that makes our views different. :cool:

[carlo22]

accenture gave me an offer. the salary increase is not much, so if i transfer it will NOT be for financial reasons.

however i'm at a loss as to whether accenture is a good choice. the complaints posted here are the same complaints that most people have about my company (low salary, no OT, overworked, etc.).

My job will essentially be the same.

- does accenture still offer training abroad?
- are people still assigned to the US or some other foreign country?
- what is the environment in your office? are people generally satisfied/happy with the company?
- is the company a good choice career-wise? do people actually get promoted to consultant level?

thanks!

[BLU519]

Originally posted by carlo22
accenture gave me an offer. the salary increase is not much, so if i transfer it will NOT be for financial reasons.

however i'm at a loss as to whether accenture is a good choice. the complaints posted here are the same complaints that most people have about my company (low salary, no OT, overworked, etc.).

My job will essentially be the same.

- does accenture still offer training abroad?
- are people still assigned to the US or some other foreign country?
- what is the environment in your office? are people generally satisfied/happy with the company?
- is the company a good choice career-wise? do people actually get promoted to consultant level?

thanks!



- does accenture still offer training abroad?

Yes

- are people still assigned to the US or some other foreign country?
YES!! (some of my team mates are leaving...some of them are only 7 month old new hires)

- what is the environment in your office? are people generally satisfied/happy with the company?

lots of young people here and YES, they are generally happy but (just like emedia_gal and any other normal human beings) some just cant get enough

- is the company a good choice career-wise? do people actually get promoted to consultant level?

YES people get promoted depending on the business need.

a good choice career-wise? Of CourSe!! check the records. ull see -- Accenture is #1 in its league

[carlo22]

thank you for your comments.

they're very helpful =)

[ex-ac]

Ngayon ko lang ulit nadaanan 'tong thread na 'to. Katuwa naman basahin yung mga nadagdag na postings. Naging hingahan na pala 'to ng mga may sama ng loob sa mga projects nila. Needless to say, karamihan mga new hires yung mga malakas ang grudge kse nga malamang isa pa lang yung project na napuntahan nila at minalas pa na napasabak agad sa work-as-if-there's-no-tomorrow assignments. (Meron bang proj na nde ganun? hehe!) Ganyan din ang istorya ng first two years ko sa company kaya nakaka-relate ako. Pero di ba magandang experience yun kse kung ngayon mo naranasan yung tough assignments, mani na yung mga susunod? That is, if you learned from the challenges you faced. Kung puro reklamo lang tayo lang mangyayari. Kahit lumipat ka pa ng kumpanya kung ganun pa rin attitude natin sa work, forget it. Talo ka pa rin parati. And you'll never be satisfied. Ang naririnig ko, mataas marketability ng mga galing sa Accenture kse nga alam nila pinagdadaanan ng mga tao dito.

Payong kaibigan, maintain a healthy level of grudge, it will push you to do better and to strive for something better. But if you let it consume you, you'll be missing opportunities to learn and improve. Maintain communication with your leads and managers. If you think your project sucks, wait till you hear what they think. Chances are, makikipag-unahan pa sila mag-resign sa inyo. hehe... Di naman, dami ka rin matutunan sa kanila. Nadaanan na nila yan eh. And they're the ones getting the heat from upper management and clients.

Sa mga natanggap na, congrats. Sa mga nagbabalak, good luck. Sa mga na-turn down at nagkaroon ng bad experience with our HR and the whole recruitment process, it's unfortunate but hey, maybe it's the company's loss! Prove yourselves in the work you've landed in. Malay nyo, blessing in disguise yan. Swerte nyo.

Btw, 80+% na ang increase ng value ng stocks ng Accenture ah. Sa mga employees, kumuha ba kayo? Sana nakapag-enrol kayo sa share plans last time. Kung hindi, malapit na daw yung susunod na offering period.

Musta na yung iba sa work nila? :cool:

[MsUnderstood]

I feel that Accenture is a very good company to work for. They really know how to take care of their employees and they have a very good working environment. Very professional.

I was, for a time, a part of their HR Department pero if you ask me, I'd rather join the Consulting Office rather than the Solutions Office (is that how they're still called?) even though they don't send people on-shore in MCO, I heard they have better exposure there cuz they deal with the client first-hand.

May question ako, kasi i'm planning to take up Masters in Industrial Psch, and when I finish, I plan to go back to Accenture, like I said, in the Consulting Office..

Do you guys think they'd still consider me if I apply again? Take note of the fact that I used to work there, had access to interview documents and exam materials. It's been more than a year but I never took the exam before, they might take it against me.

[ƒREQUENCY]

wow! this thread has really gone a long way since i started it about a year ago...

i really appreciate what everyone has written here and i think it'd be nice to "update" everyone on my "Ac endeavor":

since starting this thread, i've been invited to join the faculty of electrical and electronics engineering in our university --and i did. i also got my e.c.e. license last november and finally decided to leave the academe around two weeks ago... fortunately, i got a really unexpected call from Ac HR people at around that time. they asked me if i'd still consider a career with Ac and my positive response has led me to another interview... and then to my last interview this coming tuesday.

once more, i'd like to solicit advice from Ac folks sana about the state of the company right now... if it would still be advisable to work there, that is. i mean, with the "hysteria" plaguing the states and all...

and if i do get a job offer, do i have to confirm right away or will i be given the luxury of time to think about it? i also have this other appication going whose benefits i have yet to discern...

help...

[Maverick]

Originally posted by MsUnderstood
Do you guys think they'd still consider me if I apply again? Take note of the fact that I used to work there, had access to interview documents and exam materials. It's been more than a year but I never took the exam before, they might take it against me.

MsUnderstood, if you had a good and clean record when you worked in accenture, i find no reason why you wouldn't be hired. add to that the fact na may added education ka pa once you finish the masters course you plan to take. also, di ko rin sure kung the same pa rin yung exam. baka iniba na nila yun. i also think they wouldn't take it against you na may access ka sa exam materials dati.

Originally posted by ƒREQUENCY
once more, i'd like to solicit advice from Ac folks sana about the state of the company right now... if it would still be advisable to work there, that is. i mean, with the "hysteria" plaguing the states and all...

and if i do get a job offer, do i have to confirm right away or will i be given the luxury of time to think about it? i also have this other appication going whose benefits i have yet to discern...


ƒREQUENCY, accenture is a stable company, especially here in manila. more projects are coming in, earnings are ok, stock price is up - basically everything is ok. while we cannot deny that the company was somewhat affected by the events of 9-11, things are gradually going back to normal. from my point of view, i see a bright future for accenture.

if you get a job offer, you have at least a week to consider it. if i remember it correctly, you have to call HR one week after your final interview to inform them if you will accept the offer and your start date.

[Chad]

MsUnderstood,

Hello. I'm from MCO.

I suggest that you wait for a year or so before coming back to Accenture MCO. Things are pretty tough right now.

Chargability is on its way down, and FlexLeave is going up. Of course, the people remaining are working harder than before just to bring new projects in.

You might want to consider working for the MSC first. Or try coming back in around 6 months to a year, we should be having new projects by then. :)

Stability wise, MCO's in fine shape. *okay* We may be taking a few hits, but the crew's still on board.


:bop:
:borg:
Chad

[Tifosi]

Originally posted by ƒREQUENCY

once more, i'd like to solicit advice from Ac folks sana about the state of the company right now... if it would still be advisable to work there, that is. i mean, with the "hysteria" plaguing the states and all...

and if i do get a job offer, do i have to confirm right away or will i be given the luxury of time to think about it? i also have this other appication going whose benefits i have yet to discern...

help...

Hello there, I'm from MSC:teehee:

I would like to expound on what Chad has said above. Things are tough here right now, but this holds true not only for Accenture, but also for most companies as well. Swerte lang kami dito sa MSC na hindi kami masyado natamaan ng 9-11 and all that. Recruitment is slow due to cost-cutting measures:(

On the other hand, I would like to reiterate what Maverick has said, the company is STABLE. More projects are coming in, and things are looking brighter for the company.

As in life, there are ups and there are downs...:alien:

[carlo22]

medyo off topic...

saan mura mag park kung sa Accenture (solutions center) nagtatrabaho?
kahit medyo maglalakad ok na sakin makatipid lang sa parking.

[Tifosi]

Originally posted by carlo22
medyo off topic...

saan mura mag park kung sa Accenture (solutions center) nagtatrabaho?
kahit medyo maglalakad ok na sakin makatipid lang sa parking.

Mahirap yang tanong na yan:hmm: Ang tagal ko na ring naghahanap ng murang parking eh. Best value na yung parking sa Gabriela at P80/day...:drive:

[Tifosi]

Originally posted by carlo22
medyo off topic...

saan mura mag park kung sa Accenture (solutions center) nagtatrabaho?
kahit medyo maglalakad ok na sakin makatipid lang sa parking.

[wavefront]

a friend of mine got an offer of around 16T/month for analyst position there at accenture. she somehow resented it... i personally felt na ok na yun, though. how long does it take before she gets a raise? should she really take the job?

[candycandy]

Ako kaya kelan magwowork sa Ac??? :lol:

[ex-ac]

Originally posted by wavefront
a friend of mine got an offer of around 16T/month for analyst position there at accenture. she somehow resented it... i personally felt na ok na yun, though. how long does it take before she gets a raise? should she really take the job?



how long does it take before she gets a raise? >>> depends kung kelan sya pumasok... it can be anywhere from a month to a full year... tuwing september kse may structural and merit increase... and the increase depends on economic conditions, performance of company, and uhh, merit... hehe... don't ask me kung ilang percent... kapag september na at natanggap na ang memo about individual increase, may masaya, may NR, at syempre hindi mawawalan ng malungkot at nagbabalak na naman mag-resign...

should she really take the job? >>> if salary is her deciding factor, she shouldn't take the job... she can most certainly earn higher in other companies, like what other posts here claim... kung hindi pa nga sya nag-start sa company nde na sya masaya, pano na? di ba? baka mamaya isa na sya sa sumusulat ng mga hinaing sa project nya dito... hehe...

but if she's trying to find generally better than average work that goes with the generally better than average pay in the industry, i'd say she should at least give it a try... good luck po!

[chaico]

hi there! am sort of ressurecting this topic.

i took the test last february 15, 2002 and fortunately i passed it. the HR girl said she'll call for interview sched and after reading the posts here regarding the grilling interviews, parang i got scared naman ata so i would like to ask you guys what type of questions would be asked during the interviews (there are 4 right?)

i want to work for accenture and passing the exam there is really what i consider as one of my greatest achievements because when i was still a student and all my dean's lister classmates got letters from accenture inviting them to take the test (and being an AVERAGE student, i didn't get any) i sort of gave up hope on working for that company coz i was thinking na they only hire SMART people, dean's listers and student leaders and all but now that i passed the test, i kinda have this confidence na, it really built up my confidence. :)

another question pala, super tagal ba talaga hiring process nila?? as in?? coz i have interview schedules for other companies din eh pero i really want accenture. what i plan to do is if ever i get accepted sa ibang companies, i'd accept it if it is not contractual, para as soon as accenture hires me (assuming i pass the interviews) , i'll transfer na sa accenture (yung ibang companies kasi are banks eh -- course ko is economics and finance from DLSU) eh medyo maliit sweldo sa bank...

that's all, hope you guys could answer my questions, specially yung type of questions that are asked sa interviews. thanks. :)

[indig0]

Originally posted by wavefront
a friend of mine got an offer of around 16T/month for analyst position there at accenture. she somehow resented it... i personally felt na ok na yun, though. how long does it take before she gets a raise? should she really take the job?


my post is just in addition to what ex-ac has posted:

the starting salary is pretty good. the increase per year varries.. if you performed well.. then you can get as much as 30% increase or even higher. if you have no project, expect very little increase. they are fair in giving increases. you reap what you sow. :D

[dissident]

hello chaico! congratulations on passing the test!! actually, tips for the interview--- come early (that's a must..) and be yourself. try to answer the interviewers' questions as honestly as you can. Good luck!!!

[val0918]

i just submitted my resume at accenture and i'm crossing my fingers for them to at least notice it. i'm bothered kasi i didn't include a cover letter with it. is it ok? furthermore, i'm a pure science major in the league of bio and chem combined so i'm worried they won't notice it. aside from that though i have everything other applicants (and successful ones at that) had like leadership and lots of extracurricular activities. what are the odds of receiving the first call?

[leelayce]

Originally posted by val0918
i just submitted my resume at accenture and i'm crossing my fingers for them to at least notice it. i'm bothered kasi i didn't include a cover letter with it. is it ok? furthermore, i'm a pure science major in the league of bio and chem combined so i'm worried they won't notice it. aside from that though i have everything other applicants (and successful ones at that) had like leadership and lots of extracurricular activities. what are the odds of receiving the first call?

i believe they give all applicants a chance to take the test, but it doesn't mean they'll get you, coz i know as of this moment they're not actively hiring. tatawagan ka talaga niyan. :D
ewan ko lang kung kahit bio-chem ang course ha. :)



:bubble:

[chaico]

Originally posted by dissident
hello chaico! congratulations on passing the test!! actually, tips for the interview--- come early (that's a must..) and be yourself. try to answer the interviewers' questions as honestly as you can. Good luck!!!

thanks! :)

[val0918]

Originally posted by leelayce


i believe they give all applicants a chance to take the test, but it doesn't mean they'll get you, coz i know as of this moment they're not actively hiring. tatawagan ka talaga niyan. :D
ewan ko lang kung kahit bio-chem ang course ha. :)



:bubble:

i really hope they would! i deserve a chance nonetheless. anyway, i think their hiring now because i have two friend who were offered employment starting march 11. that's why i tried my luck on them.

[leelayce]

Originally posted by val0918


i really hope they would! i deserve a chance nonetheless. anyway, i think their hiring now because i have two friend who were offered employment starting march 11. that's why i tried my luck on them.


IT ba sila? :)

Good luck!

:bubble:

[candycandy]

may opening ba sa Ac ngayon?

[val0918]

Originally posted by leelayce

IT ba sila? :)

Good luck!

:bubble:

actually no. one's a business major but he refused the offer because he was accepted in P&G and the other one's an ECE grad. so i'm hoping they would consider a rather "tangential" course.

i don't know if they have opening but i'm trying my luck nonetheless.

[ice]

Originally posted by lance_ryan
I attended the SLC last year and while it was fun hangin around with other students, I would have to concur with angel j's comment that mediocrity is a way of life in Andersen. The people are not competent enough. I mean, those who got in to the SLC are people with average and slightly above average GPAs, and some even don't have a single extra-curricular activity (besides commuting on public transport). Modesty aside, parang ako lang yata ang may pinakamaraming academic and extracurricular achievements doon. Like they swoon and marvel at my being a Student Council officer. Hello? As if that's not a common thing for student achievers?

The really really good people don't settle for Andersen. They aim for something bigger like P&G, IBM, or somewhere abroad.


How can you measure mediocrity by GPAs and extra-curricular activities?? I think you have a distorted notion of how life is at Accenture...and those comments coming from someone who only attended the SLC. And for someone boasting of having the most academic and extra-curricular activities, I think you missed whole point of the SLC....duh?? Doesnt THAT tell you something?

And DID they REALLY swoon? ...now THAT would have been funny....

And if you really think that Accenture people are incompetent, i INVITE you to join us....actually i DARE you to join us....I would LOVE to see how YOU fare....you would probably redefine the meaning of incompetency....:D

[scroll]

hey guys!!! help naman o... im too lazy to go through all 6 (or is it 7?!?!)pages of this thread...

i have several questions for those of you working in accenture... and i need help ASAP (demanding bah?!?! :D) kse monday na 1st interview ko... eh im havin doubts bout wantin the job...

1. ano questions usually durin the 1st interview?!? how long recruitment process (the least and most number of months before you get hired)?? i have to know just in case... im still waiting for the ateneo law results... it would be out mid-may... so you think by then (assuming i get to pass the interviews) may offer na or wala pa?!?! and let me add na mas priority ko law school--- a job is just a fallback...

2. is it really true na may bond na babayaran if you dont want to finish your contract?!?!

3. and in accenture ba you really have to learn IT?!? kse in iber pacific if you're a management grad, you stick to mgt parts lang... unlike in accenture daw medyo you need to learn both...

4. and mataas ba employee turnover?!?!?!

yun lang!! dami ba?!?! yuck, feeling ko naman kse papasa noh?!?! ehhehe... just getting ready, just in case...;)

[chaico]

sorry ngayon ko lang nabasa to i could have given you advice sana kasi i just had my first interview last week (wednesday)

anyway, to the accenture people, i hope you could answer his/her questions kasi i'm also curious and a bit confused na rin eh. dami ko na kasi pinu-put off na job offers kakaantay sa accenture pero parang ngayon nagdadalawang isip na ko if i really want to go into IT since i'm a finance graduate ...

so please enlighten us naman, thanks! :)

[scroll]

hey chaico... i guess i should copy your title "im a girl"... hehe... dami nagkakamali sa gender ko with my username!! yun lang...;)

had my interview na kanina... so guys, scrap the 1st question... except for the sub-question (yung how long yung recruitment process)...

and another thing, IT positions nga daw yung vacancies... la lang... parang ayoko (yikes!! nagfeeling ba naman daw makukuha ako?!!)... i prefer law school ****... la lang!!:D

[jeangurl]

Hi guys! I'm a graduating student taking up an IT/Mgt - related course. I took the exam in ac last october and passed it. after my deadly interview with ms. anna ong and several others, i was notified that i passed. all i had to go through was the partner interview. i was also informed that if i passed the partner interview, i will have to start on march 25, 2002 (but that's holy week!). i requested for the interview sked to be postponed to the week after march 1 since it was exam week. the hr people, to this day, have not called back to sked the interview. is it okay if i follow up on it or is that being to "excited"?

what happens in a partner interview? does everybody pass it, meaning is it a "for formalties" sake interview or is it something like/more than an anna ong interview?

ok ba sa ac? ac is like a second home to alumni/alumnaes of my course but rumor has it does its not really a home. people work to death and are exploited so much with the small pay. i even heard a horror story from our shool dept that a graduate of 2001 had to work til 4 am. some teahers say that you'll even be richer as a missionary than as an employee at ac. other teachers say naman that the trash treatment is worth it after, realizing your career marketability after ac. so is ac really ok orare there better horizons out there? if so, what companies are it employee friendly?

salamat!

[chaico]

Originally posted by jeangurl
Hi guys! I'm a graduating student taking up an IT/Mgt - related course. I took the exam in ac last october and passed it. after my deadly interview with ms. anna ong and several others, i was notified that i passed. all i had to go through was the partner interview. i was also informed that if i passed the partner interview, i will have to start on march 25, 2002 (but that's holy week!). i requested for the interview sked to be postponed to the week after march 1 since it was exam week. the hr people, to this day, have not called back to sked the interview. is it okay if i follow up on it or is that being to "excited"?

what happens in a partner interview? does everybody pass it, meaning is it a "for formalties" sake interview or is it something like/more than an anna ong interview?

ok ba sa ac? ac is like a second home to alumni/alumnaes of my course but rumor has it does its not really a home. people work to death and are exploited so much with the small pay. i even heard a horror story from our shool dept that a graduate of 2001 had to work til 4 am. some teahers say that you'll even be richer as a missionary than as an employee at ac. other teachers say naman that the trash treatment is worth it after, realizing your career marketability after ac. so is ac really ok orare there better horizons out there? if so, what companies are it employee friendly?

salamat!

hi! ok lang naman ata if you follow it up sa HR, at least they'll think that you are really interested diba? :)


as for your anna ong experience, my friend (kasabay ko magtest) had his first interview with anna ong too ... and sobrang grabe nga daw! galing mo to have passed that!

grabe pala talaga tagal process papers ng accenture, imagine you took the test in october then yung partner interview mo up to now di mo pa alam sched. it took around 5 months or so ... eh di if ever antayin ko sila wala na siguro mangyayari sa akin kaya i better consider other job offers too ...

dami kasi iba't-ibang kwento tungkol sa accenture eh, yung iba enjoy, yung iba hindi ... kakalito!

[chaico]

Originally posted by scroll
hey chaico... i guess i should copy your title "im a girl"... hehe... dami nagkakamali sa gender ko with my username!! yun lang...;)

hehe! kaya nga eh! dami kasi akala guy ako eh ... :)


had my interview na kanina... so guys, scrap the 1st question... except for the sub-question (yung how long yung recruitment process)...

who interviewed you?

[scroll]

hey chaico!!

i forgot the 1st name but i think her last name is Vega... im not absolutely sure din... when interview mo?!? how did it go?!?

[DREK]

HELLO GUYS. just want to ask somethn. my degree is totally not related to I.T. I graduated majoring in Ab-economics and BSC busins managemnt. I dont have any experiences or know-hows in programming languages. Do you think i won't have a hard time in the Solutions Office? What about the programming languages? I heard they still teach COBOL. R u goin to be stuck in this language once you are assigned there? how much time will it take to complete one project (average)? Do you have to be academically superior to tackle the job cuz my grades are just average.?

My interviewer said that i have to research something about programming first before i sign the contract ( that is, if they are going to accept me:D please please please) since they are the ones who will assign me which of the offices will i report on, but i think and feel that it will be in the Solutions office. What do you think peps?

one last ?, is there a job opening in the consulting office in the near future?

[BLU519]

Originally posted by candycandy
Ako kaya kelan magwowork sa Ac??? :lol:


Anong Ac?

wala nang Ac ngayon

hehe. kIDDinG kIDDinG kIDDinG :D

[carlo22]

what's the trend in the Manila Solutions Office... do most people resign after their contracts end, or do more people stay?

[chaico]

Originally posted by scroll
hey chaico!!

i forgot the 1st name but i think her last name is Vega... im not absolutely sure din... when interview mo?!? how did it go?!?

hi! i had my interview last week, march 6. ok naman (sana !) hehe! :) di pa ulit tawag eh. kelan daw ba malalaman if passed yung 1st interview?

[scroll]

hey chaico!!

i think they'll call after 3-4weeks... regardless of the result... yun yung sabi nung nag-interview when i asked her... so i guess you have to wait... but then are you really interested?!?! IT related eh... ako parang ayoko... accdg to teh brother of a friend who's working there, sobra kawawa daw yung mga new recruits... no money ang accenture thus no training... so the new ones have to learn computer programming on their own and at the same time, do a proj... and if ever you want to get out, you have to pay a bond pa!! so medyo nakakawalang gana, if you ask me... but then getting hired by accenture would be surely an ego boost!!! hehehe...:D

[chaico]

Originally posted by scroll
hey chaico!!

i think they'll call after 3-4weeks... regardless of the result... yun yung sabi nung nag-interview when i asked her... so i guess you have to wait... but then are you really interested?!?! IT related eh... ako parang ayoko... accdg to teh brother of a friend who's working there, sobra kawawa daw yung mga new recruits... no money ang accenture thus no training... so the new ones have to learn computer programming on their own and at the same time, do a proj... and if ever you want to get out, you have to pay a bond pa!! so medyo nakakawalang gana, if you ask me... but then getting hired by accenture would be surely an ego boost!!! hehehe...:D

talaga? no money for training? eh humingi kasi ng xerox copy ng passport ko eh. :) pero kung no training at kailangan on my own ako mag-aral ng programming, yikes naman ata yun, kakawalang gana nga kasi medyo mahirap naman ata mag-self study ng programming, lalo na if di IT related ang course diba? pero tama ka eh, EGO BOOST talaga! lalo na doon sa mga mayayabang dati na classmates ko na pinadalahan lang ng letter ng accenture kala mo kung sino na! :D hehe! :D

[cyb3r_1ady]

hi! itatanong ko lang sana kung pwede pa bang magapply dyan sa accenture for the second time? :confusing: kasi i passed na yung exams nila last november 2000...then nung May last year yung interview ko...and sad to say i didn't pass the 1st interview :bawling: (badtrip! sa akin pa napunta yung pinakamahirap maginteview! :grrr: i heard nga from my batchmates na nainterview din dun na kaya hindi din sila nakapasa e kasi sa kanila rin napunta yung naginterview na yun! ang swerte nga nung mga batchmates ko nun na nakapasa kasi ok yung mga naginterview sa kanina. :verymad: ) so now....mag-1yr na akong walang job. after i failed that interview...nawalan na ako ng tiwala sa sarili ko. :depressed2: tinatamad na akong mag-apply sa ibang companies. my life is so boring right now! :bash: gusto ko pa ring magwork doon....pwede pa bang magapply? if yes..do i still have to take the exams again? :confused4:

[scroll]

Originally posted by chaico
talaga? no money for training? eh humingi kasi ng xerox copy ng passport ko eh. :) pero kung no training at kailangan on my own ako mag-aral ng programming, yikes naman ata yun, kakawalang gana nga kasi medyo mahirap naman ata mag-self study ng programming, lalo na if di IT related ang course diba? pero tama ka eh, EGO BOOST talaga! lalo na doon sa mga mayayabang dati na classmates ko na pinadalahan lang ng letter ng accenture kala mo kung sino na! :D hehe! :D
ya... no money for training-- that was according to the brother of a friend who's working as a team leader na sa accenture... and ako din, they asked for a photocopy of my passport... i guess that's routine na lang din...

and yup, you have to learn programming languages kse under the solutions office... ako nga we wanted sana sa consulting... pero ikaw, if you really want to work for accenture, go ahead!! dont get discouraged!! sayang din yung opprtunity... yun nga lang, you have to know your limits and your capabilities sa IT... baka naman sobra mahirapan ka... even if you're working for a good company, but you're not happy, di rin worth it...

kakatawa naman yung mga classmates mo!! mashadong naatat sa accenture!!! what's the freakin big deal bah with the letter?!?! as if that's a guarantee na you're a shoo-in na for the job!! hay... pero ya, ego boost ****!!!:D

[DREK]

HELLO again. Can som1 please answer my questions?

Here, i postd it again.My degree is totally not related to I.T. I graduated majoring in Ab-economics and BSC busins managemnt. I dont have any experiences or know-hows in programming languages. Do you think i won't have a hard time in the Solutions Office? What about the programming languages? I heard they still teach COBOL. R u goin to be stuck in this language once you are assigned there? how much time will it take to complete one project (average)? Do you have to be academically superior to tackle the job cuz my grades are just average.?

My interviewer said that i have to research something about programming first before i sign the contract ( that is, if they are going to accept me please please please) since they are the ones who will assign me which of the offices will i report on, but i think and feel that it will be in the Solutions office. What do you think peps?

one last ?, is there a job opening in the consulting office in the near future?

and ey SCROLL, u sure about the training thing? Cuz i dont think theyll just let u be on your own. During the interview, i askd about the training. The interviewer was kind enough to give me a long answer. She said yes, training will always be a part of your career in Accenture and .. . . . . . .. Yun, dunno? basta, hope they provide 1.:D

[TSINITO]

pwede ko po bang malamn kung saan yang accenture na yan?

meron na po akong job pero gusto ko sanang lumipat coz i am not happy with it..

[candycandy]

TSINITO bro.. *** talaga.. Ac is located sa MSE in Ayala. International Consulting Firm sila. San ka ba work ?

[chaico]

Originally posted by scroll


kakatawa naman yung mga classmates mo!! mashadong naatat sa accenture!!! what's the freakin big deal bah with the letter?!?! as if that's a guarantee na you're a shoo-in na for the job!! hay... pero ya, ego boost ****!!!:D

kasi before ba ito, tapos ang mga pinadalhan lang AC ng letter eh yung mga Dean's Listers and yung mga super smart people talaga! :)
yung isa ko kasing classmate kainis talaga yun eh kasi paturo pa siya doon sa smart namin na classmate tungkol sa test, mga word problems and stuff eh ang ingay nila that time may pinag-aaralan akong super complicated subject tapos ang ingay-ingay niya, parang ina-announce pa sa buong mundo na pinadalhan siya ng letter ng Accenture at mag-****st siya, SHEESH!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[TSINITO]

Originally posted by candycandy
TSINITO bro.. *** talaga.. Ac is located sa MSE in Ayala. International Consulting Firm sila. San ka ba work ?

yes, repa., nandito ako ngayon sa laguna technopark. sa isang japanese semicondutor firm.. pero para atang walang growth kapag dito dahil yung isa ko ring kasama, 5 years na e ang liit pa rin ng sweldo..
okay kaya yung development sa career ko dyan sa accenture?

salamat ng madami..

[bAtGiRL_0]

meron pa ba opening sa accenture for a business management
degree holder?
;)

[TSINITO]

OIC..

above minimum naman kaya ang sweldo dyan sa accenture na yan kung makakapasok man ako??

sensya na..
sagot naman pls..

[LuCkY_tRiSkLe]

Originally posted by TSINITO
OIC..

above minimum naman kaya ang sweldo dyan sa accenture na yan kung makakapasok man ako??

sensya na..
sagot naman pls..


:cow:

Hmm.

Apparently, Accenture claims that its salary standard is competitive against its fellow companies in the same line of business.

Oh well. Definitely way higher than the minimum wage (if that's what you're asking). I guess the more appropriate question should be --

IS IT WORTH IT? :elf:

Is it worth all the sacrifice and OTs, if unluckily (or luckily, depends on your perspective) you get into a project that's *quite challenging* (subjective as well, which can range from honest to goodness challenging to utter slavery) ...

:turncat: