CATV vs. Free TV ratings

[darkmaster]

ABS-CBN says cable and free TV ratings non-issue


The disparity between the ratings of ABS-CBN in cable and non-cable households is a "non-issue" according to an ABS-CBN Broadcasting Network official.

Vivian Tin, ABS-CBN Research and Business Analysis chief, disputed claims by network rival GMA Network, Inc. that ABS-CBN is using its cable TV resources to manipulate ratings in cable TV households to its advantage.

GMA Network earlier issued an official statement noting the disparity between its ratings in households with cable TV and those with free TV, saying that:

"There is absolutely no truth to ABS-CBN’s claim that it was the first one who initiated the move to clean up the TV ratings system. For about five (5) years now, GMA Network has been complaining to AGB Nielsen [Editor: AGB Nielsen is a media research firm that tracks TV ratings] why the ratings of GMA Network’s programs are so low in cable TV households but so high in non-cable TV homes, a situation that does not obtain in ABS-CBN’s programs."

The statement also said that since ABS-CBN either owns or has a controlling stake in the dominant cable companies in the country, it would be able to access information as to which homes are fitted with AGB Nielsen ratings meters.

Technical issue

Tin however said that there's a simple explanation for why GMA Network shows do better ratings-wise in households with free TV, while ABS-CBN has higher ratings in homes with cable TV: signal reception and bandwidth.

Tin explained that ABS-CBN airs over Channel 2, which “is the lowest of the low band channels", making its free TV signal vulnerable to "noise", meaning, electronic and physical interference.

“Kapag low band ang channel, it’s vulnerable to noise... noise that we couldn’t hear as humans but electronically the TV picks up… (the noise) will cause the TV (picture to be) blurry.”

“In the fringes where the signal is not as strong, the noise - the noise of electricity, telecommunication activities, even rain and wind - interfere with the low band frequency. There are areas where homes would have snowy reception of ABS-CBN. In these areas we will lose in terms of ratings," she said.

Tin said that since the free TV reception of Channel 2 is bad in certain areas, it's not surprising that those households would tend to switch to programs on GMA Network, since they would get clearer picture and sound quality.

She said that homes fitted with cable TV would have clear reception of ABS-CBN shows “because cable takes away the noise.”

"In an environment when the receptions of all channels are clear, our ratings tend to be higher," Tin said, adding that "in an environment that is patas (fair), because (all channels are) clear, we always win,” she said.

Tin said certain measures have been taken by ABS-CBN to improve the reception of the network in non-cable homes. For a long-term solution, Tin said ABS-CBN plans to introduce digital television.

“We have a cable company because it makes good business strategy. That’s another part of the market... hindi naman namin ginawa ang cable para gumawa ng iba (we didn’t engage in this business just to do something illegal),” she said.

Bribery and corruption

ABS-CBN has filed a P63-million civil suit against AGB Nielsen for its alleged failure to probe reports of an organized, systematic and well-funded attempt to cheat in the ratings.

ABS-CBN filed the case after an informant approached the network and confessed that he was hired to find and bribe households equipped with AGB Nielsen meters in Bacolod, in order to influence their viewing habits.

A court has dismissed the civil suit based on technicality but ABS-CBN has filed a motion for reconsideration.

“Bribery of homes to change viewing habit, that one is the real corruption issue,” said Tin.

Tin assured that once enough evidence has been gathered ABS-CBN will conduct its own investigation.

[archer07]

my explanation for the disparity between the cable and free tv ratings is that gma is geared unabashedly towards the "masa" while abs tries to give quality programming which is not necessarily "masa" oriented

but those who can afford cable television is not masa at all

thus those who have cable television would rather have abs than gma hence better ratings for abs for cable viewers

definitely i feel abs gives better shows which the masa cannot appreciate

thus gma gets better ratings for free tv viewers

researchers need to correlate such factors

[starczamora]

Actually, ganito ang reklamo ng GMA regarding Cable ratings:

Mas mataas ang ratings ng ABS sa cable kaysa sa Free TV, GRANTING NA MAS MARAMING CHANNELS ANG CABLE.

Also, would it be a crazy idea if a viewer has cable and he or she does nothing on it and watch just one channel instead?

[inis]

^^^ ano ang questionable dun?! why question the viewing habits of cable audience? wala na ba siyang free will to watch shows na gusto niyang panoorin kasehodang ang channel na yun ay parte ng free-TV. Ako nga may cable na pero a lot of times nasa ABS-CBN lang. So am I crazy? or naka-drugs? galing naman ng argument na yun ha! papasa sa Mars yan!

[starczamora]

Note: ISANG CHANNEL LANG ANG PINAPANOOD. :rolleyes:

[Galvantic@STS]

hahaha... natawa ako dun. ang t a n g a ni malicious starc. hehe



keep on smiling.

:)

[inis]

Note: ISANG CHANNEL LANG ANG PINAPANOOD. :rolleyes:

SO?!?! Teka lang, kasama ka ba nilang nanonood araw-araw? Dun ka ba nakatira sa kanila at nasasabi mong ISANG CHANNEL LANG ANG PINAPANOOD nila? :rolleyes: :naughty:

[Corrrect!]

Actually, ganito ang reklamo ng GMA regarding Cable ratings:

Mas mataas ang ratings ng ABS sa cable kaysa sa Free TV, GRANTING NA MAS MARAMING CHANNELS ANG CABLE.

Also, would it be a crazy idea if a viewer has cable and he or she does nothing on it and watch just one channel instead?

I think I get what you're saying, I'm not sure.

Sa US din naman ah, local channels ang namamayagpag sa ratings at hindi ang cable channels.

[commentator]

Marami pang palusot ang ABS-CBN at mga Kapamilya.

Ito naman ay malnaw pa sa signal sa cable ng tamepring ng Skycable para paboran ang ABS-CBN,
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GMA Network: Disparity in TV ratings is 'legitimate issue'

Article posted January 24, 2008 - 07:39 PM
GMA Network on Thursday issued a statement reacting to claims made by rival network ABS-CBN on the disparity between cable and non-cable ratings of GMA Network programs.

Below is GMA Network's statement:

"Contrary to what ABS-CBN said in its statement to the press today, the disparity between cable and non-cable ratings in GMA’s programs is a legitimate issue in the move to clean up the ratings survey.

"Since 2003, GMA Network has been complaining to AGB Nielsen why the ratings of GMA Network’s programs are so low in cable TV households but so high in non-cable TV homes, a situation that does not happen in ABS-CBN’s programs.

"It is to be noted that when GMA Network was not a strong competitor of ABS-CBN, the cable and non-cable ratings of both GMA and ABS-CBN consistently exhibited a normal behavior in the past.

"The abnormal ratings behavior of GMA’s programs in cable TV homes started to happen only when GMA Network began to compete head-on with its rival station five years ago and when GMA Network began to beat ABS-CBN in Mega Manila TV ratings. At that time, AGB and Nielsen were providing separate ratings for TV programs. And the cable ratings disparity happened only in the AGB results and not in Nielsen’s. In 2005, AGB and Nielsen merged their TV ratings services in the Philippines.

"ABS-CBN said in its official position paper that it presented to the trade in 2006 that the reason for their high cable ratings was that 'among cable homes, the connection through cable takes away the vulnerability of ABS-CBN’s reception from noise, especially in instances when ABS-CBN is assigned to a channel 8.' ABS-CBN was referring to the movement of their cable channel assignment from channel 6 to 8. GMA Network consulted with a third party technical expert to seek his opinion on that claim and the following was what he said:

"'No VHF (Very High Frequency) be it low, mid, or high-band is immune or not susceptible to interference, thus making it imperative for the cable industry in the present to undergo a study to ascertain that a channel is 'clean' enough to be operated in.'

"Engineering surveys conducted have also yielded that interference varies in different portions of Metro Manila. It is on the Cable provider’s shoulders to limit amplifier cascades to attain a decent carrier to noise ratio resulting in better picture quality.

"In summary, the Cable television provider and its engineers are the ones responsible in seeing to it that a specific Cable television channel is clean enough for a commercial television station to operate in, thus making everyone operate on a level playing field.

"ABS-CBN did not reply to the rebuttal made by the expert consulted by GMA Network. After a long silence, ABS-CBN now says that the disparity between cable and non-cable ratings is due to their reception problems on Free TV and that these problems are eliminated on cable TV where their signal is clear. GMA Network believes that the highly erratic or fluctuating behavior of ABS-CBN’s cable ratings, particularly in the suburbs, cannot be logically attributed to their clear cable TV signal.

"It is not true that GMA’s complaints of interference in cable TV have no basis because GMA has received thousands of complaints of signal distortion and degradation from Sky and Home Cable subscribers who have executed affidavits. The complaints ranged from snowy and/or blurry to black and white reception; wavy/shadowy image; zigzag/moving/diagonal/vertical/horizontal lines; noisy/distorted video; weak audio; and weak or no signal. These complaints prompted GMA Network to file a case before the NTC, where it is now pending.

"It is a fact that GMA Network’s competitor owns and/or controls the dominant cable operators in the country. Thus, it is the one who has both the means and opportunity to know where the people meters are installed by AGB Nielsen among cable TV homes.

"Until now, AGB Nielsen has not provided a satisfactory explanation to the highly illogical, very low cable ratings of GMA’s programs as compared to the unusual and unexplainable very high cable ratings of ABS-CBN’s programs. "

(GMANews.TV is the official website of GMA News and Public Affairs, a unit of GMA Network Inc.)

[Halimaw_ako]

ak0 halos 50 plus channel namin sa bahay pero channel 2 parin *** pagprimetime
mahiya sna ang gma hahahahaha, nagtanong pa *** kung bakit wala silang viewer sa mga nakacable hahaha
magsurvey muna *** kung kilala ba ang mga shows nila sa mga nakacable diba mahihiya sila sa resulta

[ho|ysh|tyouscuk]

nyahahahahaha isa na namang isyung ayaw pag-usapan ng mga kapalmilya... bwahahahahahaha

[archer07]

at the moment grainy ang cable namin.

pero nakatututok pa rin ako sa channel 2.

although i also watch other channels.

in any case, for as long we do not have panels, hindi tayo kasama sa participants for the ratings.

[breecher]

kasi nga mas may pera ang nanonood ng abs kita nyo naman pagdating sa movies kanininong mga pelikula ba ang ginagastusan same sa cabele yung mga taong can afford mag cable kadalasan 2 ang pi ni prefer.napatunayan na yan.

[darkmaster]

Isa lang po ang ibig sabihin nito:


With Cable TV, all channels have the same reception.

And ABS-CBN is mostly watch by the TV viewers with lots of channel selection.


Unlike in Free TV, you can only view/watch a certain network or networks with better signal reception. It can be ABS-CBN, GMA7,ABC5, Studio 23, QTV, et. etc.


There is a certain portion in Mega Manila where only one channel gets clearer signal. ABS-CBN maybe, or GMA7! ANd it can be attested by the TV viewers.

TV viewers cant affort but to watch that network even they dont like the show or not. Gets?



That is why, GMA7 complaint on cable ratings on AGB Nielsen Media Reseach doesn't succeed until now.

I am just wondering, for five years of their complaints, they dont take a chance to file a case against AGB Nielsen Media Reseach Philippines, if they really want a fair and justified ratings releases.


Only until now, to where their station is being dragged of this TV ratings manipulation issue.

Bribering panel homes just to watch a certain station is so pathetic.


Two cents? Hundred cents? Kahit wala, oki lang.

[commentator]

Sino nga ba ang may organized, systematic, at well funded organization para mandaya sa cable ratings?

SKYCABLE!

At bakit naman mandadaya? Dahil olats na olats ang ABS-CBN.

Kailan naman nandaya? Aba simula ng umangat ang GMA laban sa ABS-CBN.

Simpleng simple hindi talaga maintindihan ng mga Kapamilya.

Hindi iyan chismis, may datos.

Wala sa signal iyan kasi may technical experts naman nakakaalam na walang basehan ang sinasabi ng ABS-CBN.

[breecher]

Sino nga ba ang may organized, systematic, at well funded organization para mandaya sa cable ratings?

SKYCABLE!

At bakit naman mandadaya? Dahil olats na olats ang ABS-CBN.

Kailan naman nandaya? Aba simula ng umangat ang GMA laban sa ABS-CBN.

Simpleng simple hindi talaga maintindihan ng mga Kapamilya.

Hindi iyan chismis, may datos.

Wala sa signal iyan kasi may technical experts naman nakakaalam na walang basehan ang sinasabi ng ABS-CBN.
***** mo talga lumabas na nga sa survey last year na class abc ang mga viewers ng abs eh sino ba ang kayang mag pa cable eh di ba class abc tignan mo nga na lang pagdating sa movies and album sales and concerts sino ba ang nangunguna hindi ba abs so hindi katakataka na abs din ang nangunguna pagdating sa cable.

[commentator]

***** mo talga lumabas na nga sa survey last year na class abc ang mga viewers ng abs eh sino ba ang kayang mag pa cable eh di ba class abc tignan mo nga na lang pagdating sa movies and album sales and concerts sino ba ang nangunguna hindi ba abs so hindi katakataka na abs din ang nangunguna pagdating sa cable.

:rotflmao:

Anong survey? Pakita mo nga ulit.

Kasi magandang tingna kung sino na ang gumawa ng survey na iyon.

Pero hindi pa rin ito ang issue.

Ang issue dito ay ang pagmamanipula ng Skycable ng cable ratings para sa ABS-CBN.

Sino ba ang mayari ng Skycable di ba si Lopez na may-ari din ng ABS-CBN.

Olats na olats na kasi ang ABS-CBN kaya ganyan ang ginagawa ng Skycable. Para naman masabing may nanonood pa sa mga palabas nila.

[commentator]

Kaya humanda na tayo sa sobrang out of this world na cable ratings ng GMA sa Lunes.

Dahil kailangang ipakita ng ABS-CBN na may nanonood pa ng kanyang mga laos na artista.

Hala ilabas na ang mga trak ng Skycable at simula na ang panunuhol sa mga panel homes.

[archer07]

yeah until now nagtataka ako how come until now parang wala man lang nagsasabing pangit ang reception ng gma sa cable

it has been years pero there is no real indignation about this from gma viewers. saan kaya sila.

ang alam ko without cable pangit ang reception ng abs kung kaya kailangan bumili pa ng baron antenna para luminaw ang reception

[Gusay]

as for me, what ABS claimed is true. Kase dito sa amin sa Bulaca, snowy ang channel 2 (ABS-CBN) malinaw talaga ang channel 7 (GMA) pero may ibang naka-cable na talagang malinaw gawa nga ng cable line. So sa bahay namin, walang choice ang mga kasambahay kundi sa GMA, kase yun lang ang channel na malinaw at QTV. :(

Buti at alam to ng ABS-SBN, sana magawan nila nang paraan.

[breecher]

:rotflmao:

Anong survey? Pakita mo nga ulit.

Kasi magandang tingna kung sino na ang gumawa ng survey na iyon.

Pero hindi pa rin ito ang issue.

Ang issue dito ay ang pagmamanipula ng Skycable ng cable ratings para sa ABS-CBN.

Sino ba ang mayari ng Skycable di ba si Lopez na may-ari din ng ABS-CBN.

Olats na olats na kasi ang ABS-CBN kaya ganyan ang ginagawa ng Skycable. Para naman masabing may nanonood pa sa mga palabas nila.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: oh my goddness pinapatawa mo ko olats ka dyan kaya pala nilangaw ang mga kasuso starlettz sa sa sinulog. the survey was shown in bandila and tv patrol a few months ago.anyway what can i expect from a jello brain like you.:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

[commentator]

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: oh my goddness pinapatawa mo ko olats ka dyan kaya pala nilangaw ang mga kasuso starlettz sa sa sinulog. the survey was shown in bandila and tv patrol a few months ago.anyway what can i expect from a jello brain like you.:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

TVPW ang source mo?:eek:

Alin iyong news department na mahilig mag-splice, mag-bago ng istorya.

Ganyan ang Kapamilya mahilig sa tampered, manipulated news reports.

Ang sabihin mo hindi matanggap ng ABS-CBN na laos ang mga artits niya kaya mababa siya sa non-cable households.

Kaya naman tampered na cable ratings ang ginagawa ng ABS-CBN.

[breecher]

kaya pala ang laos na sinasabi mong artista like judy ann ang reyna ngayon ng mmff. at sino naman ang sikat sa starlettzz ng gma name one. kung si carlos agassi ang worst actor ng abs sa inyo siya na ang pinakamagaling. at ano ba ang highest lgrossing local film last year hindi ba one more chance sa gme mo wala pang nakakagawa niyan.

[commentator]

kaya pala ang laos na sinasabi mong artista like judy ann ang reyna ngayon ng mmff. at sino naman ang sikat sa starlettzz ng gma name one. kung si carlos agassi ang worst actor ng abs sa inyo siya na ang pinakamagaling. at ano ba ang highest lgrossing local film last year hindi ba one more chance sa gme mo wala pang nakakagawa niyan.

:rotflmao:

Ito lang ba ang kayang banggitin mo.

Bakit di mo man lang banggitin ang narating na ng mga LAOS na artista ng parating na palabas sa lunes ng ABS-CBN.

Sina Jarius something, Jake Cuenca, Angel na walang hit movie, at Pioling.

Sino ba naman ang manonood sa mga loas at di kilalang artista ng Dos na walang hit movie or serye man lang.

Meron siympre iyong mga panel homes na may suhol mula sa Skycable.

:rotflmao:

[adri(e)lle_07]

:rotflmao: Nakakatawa naman yung nabasa kong post na wala naman daw nagrereklamo na sira signal ng GMA sa CABLE...

BULAG,PIPI AT BINGI na lang siguro yang mga yan... :rotflmao:

FYI: LIBU-LIBONG reklamo ang natatanggap ng GMA na sira ang SIGNAL nila sa SKY CABLE...

Ang bottomline lang naman nyan: MAGPAKABIT KA NG CABLE PARA LANG MAPANOOD ANG ABS-CBN SA MAS MALINAW NA SIGNAL AT ANG GMA NAMAN AY MAPAPANOOD MO SA MAS MALABONG SIGNAL POWERED BY SKY CABLE...


Teka noong hindi pa lumalaban sa RATINGS ang GMA wala naman issue dyan sa CABLE RATINGS ah...


Nung nagumpisang kainin ng GMA ang MEGA-MANILA ayun biglang pasok ng SKY CABLE RATINGS... Timing nga lang ba or nagkataon lang? :lol:

[adri(e)lle_07]

KAPAG NANONOOD KAYO NG 24ORAS PANSININ NYO LAGI YUNG NASA BABA:

TO ALL SKY AND HOME CABLE SUBSCRIBERS IF YOU ARE EXPIRIENCING CABLE SIGNAL DISRUPTION WITH THIS CHANNEL PLEASE CALL GMA NETWORK HOTLINE ***-****...

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:


TAKE NOTE: GMA HOTLINE dapat tumawag kasi kung sa SKY ka tatawag DEDMA lang yan kasi alam naman nilak *** anong dahilan kung bakit malabo ang signal ng GMA sa cable nila... :lol:

Saan ka pa... GMA lang ang lumalabo ang SIGNAL sa CABLE pero sa mga walang CABLE ang linaw linaw naman... MAGIC diba ? :glee:

[archer07]

yeah so far wala pa akong narinig na nagsalita na malabo ang channel 7 sa cable even if the crawlers are there,

and what is channel 7 doing just in case meron. gma has not even documented this.

pero marami na akong narinig na malabo ang channel 2 without cable lalo na ang family driver namin so they had to get the baron antennae. dito sa fairview lalo na sa pechayan area na kung saan maraming squatter. yun ang lagi nilang problema. kaso wala silang pambayad sa cable.

[adri(e)lle_07]

:rotflmao:

5 YEARS ago may complaint na ang GMA sa AGB na hanggang ngayon ay wala pa din mabigay na malinaw. na sagot..

Ganyan ang GMA.. Hindi basta basta naninira at dadalhin agad sa publiko para mangbintang...

Sa tamang lugar lang dapat yan pagusapan at ayusin... ;)



FYI:

GMA Network: Disparity in TV ratings is 'legitimate issue'
01/24/2008 | 07:39 PM

GMA Network on Thursday issued a statement reacting to claims made by rival network ABS-CBN on the disparity between cable and non-cable ratings of GMA Network programs.

Below is GMA Network's statement:

"Contrary to what ABS-CBN said in its statement to the press today, the disparity between cable and non-cable ratings in GMA’s programs is a legitimate issue in the move to clean up the ratings survey.

"Since 2003, GMA Network has been complaining to AGB Nielsen why the ratings of GMA Network’s programs are so low in cable TV households but so high in non-cable TV homes, a situation that does not happen in ABS-CBN’s programs.

"It is to be noted that when GMA Network was not a strong competitor of ABS-CBN, the cable and non-cable ratings of both GMA and ABS-CBN consistently exhibited a normal behavior in the past.

"The abnormal ratings behavior of GMA’s programs in cable TV homes started to happen only when GMA Network began to compete head-on with its rival station five years ago and when GMA Network began to beat ABS-CBN in Mega Manila TV ratings. At that time, AGB and Nielsen were providing separate ratings for TV programs. And the cable ratings disparity happened only in the AGB results and not in Nielsen’s. In 2005, AGB and Nielsen merged their TV ratings services in the Philippines.

"ABS-CBN said in its official position paper that it presented to the trade in 2006 that the reason for their high cable ratings was that 'among cable homes, the connection through cable takes away the vulnerability of ABS-CBN’s reception from noise, especially in instances when ABS-CBN is assigned to a channel 8.' ABS-CBN was referring to the movement of their cable channel assignment from channel 6 to 8. GMA Network consulted with a third party technical expert to seek his opinion on that claim and the following was what he said:

"'No VHF (Very High Frequency) be it low, mid, or high-band is immune or not susceptible to interference, thus making it imperative for the cable industry in the present to undergo a study to ascertain that a channel is 'clean' enough to be operated in.'

"Engineering surveys conducted have also yielded that interference varies in different portions of Metro Manila. It is on the Cable provider’s shoulders to limit amplifier cascades to attain a decent carrier to noise ratio resulting in better picture quality.

"In summary, the Cable television provider and its engineers are the ones responsible in seeing to it that a specific Cable television channel is clean enough for a commercial television station to operate in, thus making everyone operate on a level playing field.

"ABS-CBN did not reply to the rebuttal made by the expert consulted by GMA Network. After a long silence, ABS-CBN now says that the disparity between cable and non-cable ratings is due to their reception problems on Free TV and that these problems are eliminated on cable TV where their signal is clear. GMA Network believes that the highly erratic or fluctuating behavior of ABS-CBN’s cable ratings, particularly in the suburbs, cannot be logically attributed to their clear cable TV signal.

"It is not true that GMA’s complaints of interference in cable TV have no basis because GMA has received thousands of complaints of signal distortion and degradation from Sky and Home Cable subscribers who have executed affidavits. The complaints ranged from snowy and/or blurry to black and white reception; wavy/shadowy image; zigzag/moving/diagonal/vertical/horizontal lines; noisy/distorted video; weak audio; and weak or no signal. These complaints prompted GMA Network to file a case before the NTC, where it is now pending.

"It is a fact that GMA Network’s competitor owns and/or controls the dominant cable operators in the country. Thus, it is the one who has both the means and opportunity to know where the people meters are installed by AGB Nielsen among cable TV homes.

"Until now, AGB Nielsen has not provided a satisfactory explanation to the highly illogical, very low cable ratings of GMA’s programs as compared to the unusual and unexplainable very high cable ratings of ABS-CBN’s programs. "

[archer07]

i think gma was checking on the hypothesis that gma's reception on cable is terrible, and just trying to fish supposed subscribers who have bad gma signal

yet years later, gma has not enough evidence to give credence to this claim. so this claim is not substantiated sadly.

i think gma should rethink of other possible reason for this disparity.

again they might take a look at the masa which is their following here in manila and luzon area. do they have cable.

and for those who have cables, do they want to watch gma.

baka doon magkaroon ng enlightenment ang gma and abs regarding this issue.

[archer07]

and if it is true that abs/sky is manipulating ratings for those who have cable, dapat lumabas na rin at nagreklamo ang panel homes na may cable which has bad gma signal.

kasi sila naman ang nagbibigay ng ratings - ang panel homes.

dapat doon ang gma manawagan gaya ng ginawa ng abs: calling all panel homes na may cable, at mahina ang reception ng gma lang - tumawag kayo sa amin para sabihing sinasabotahe ang cable nyo ng sky.

kaso walang nagrereklamo. unless maka abs sila.

[commentator]

:rotflmao:

Nakakatawa naman ang mga palusot ng mga Kapamilya.

May mga malabong pang signal ang sinasabi o kaya naman nasa "masa" argument na naman tayo.

At akala mo naman kumuha ang mga tao ng Skycable para manood ng Wowowee o kaya naman Lastikman.

Pero ang hindi talaga matakasan ng mga Kapamilya ay kung gaano kadali para mag-tamper ang Skycable.

Naniniwala sila sa kwento ng isang Mark Dumago na kung saan saan lang puwedend pulutin.

Pero ang sabihin SKycable ang gumagawa ng tampered cable ratings, ayaw maniwala.

Para tumaas ang ratings di ba ang punto ng manipulasyon.

Tumaas ang cable ratings ng ABS-CBN mula nuong 2006 at bumaba naman ang GMA.

Hindi na kailangan ng explaination. Hindi uubra ang malabong signal kasi bakit nuong 2005 wala naman pag-kakaiba ang cable at non-cable.

Walang basehan ang "masa" argument kasi bakit biglang nagbago nuong 2006 hanggang 2007.

Kasi OLATS na OLATS ang ABS-CBN. Kaya kailangan dayain ang cable ratings para ipakitang may nannonood pa sa mga walang kwentang palabas ng ABS-CBN.

:lol:

[pururot]

:rotflmao:

Nakakatawa naman ang mga palusot ng mga Kapamilya.

May mga malabong pang signal ang sinasabi o kaya naman nasa "masa" argument na naman tayo.

At akala mo naman kumuha ang mga tao ng Skycable para manood ng Wowowee o kaya naman Lastikman.

Pero ang hindi talaga matakasan ng mga Kapamilya ay kung gaano kadali para mag-tamper ang Skycable.

Naniniwala sila sa kwento ng isang Mark Dumago na kung saan saan lang puwedend pulutin.

Pero ang sabihin SKycable ang gumagawa ng tampered cable ratings, ayaw maniwala.

Para tumaas ang ratings di ba ang punto ng manipulasyon.

Tumaas ang cable ratings ng ABS-CBN mula nuong 2006 at bumaba naman ang GMA.

Hindi na kailangan ng explaination. Hindi uubra ang malabong signal kasi bakit nuong 2005 wala naman pag-kakaiba ang cable at non-cable.

Walang basehan ang "masa" argument kasi bakit biglang nagbago nuong 2006 hanggang 2007.

Kasi OLATS na OLATS ang ABS-CBN. Kaya kailangan dayain ang cable ratings para ipakitang may nannonood pa sa mga walang kwentang palabas ng ABS-CBN.

:lol:

ah ok...........

[rusty2die4]

sana may ratings din from other cable providers para malaman kung may difference :D

ang maganda sana diyan maglabas ng testigo ang mga nagsasabing may daya ang cable ratings. :D

kasi dun sa ibang dayaan sa ratings dumadami na ang testigo, sabihin man ng iba na "scripted" and "binayaran". At least may testigo :D

akala ko ba sama sama silang magiging "SAKSI!"???? :D

[pollywog]

Ang daming cable companies dyan. Wala namang namimilit sa inyo na sa Sky Cable mag-subscribe!

Patanggal nyo na rin ang Meralco connections nyo; galit kayo sa mga Lopez di ba?! :)

[archer07]

sana may ratings din from other cable providers para malaman kung may difference :D

ang maganda sana diyan maglabas ng testigo ang mga nagsasabing may daya ang cable ratings. :D

kasi dun sa ibang dayaan sa ratings dumadami na ang testigo, sabihin man ng iba na "scripted" and "binayaran". At least may testigo :D
akala ko ba sama sama silang magiging "SAKSI!"???? :D

exactly, that should have been easily done. that will really counter abs's parade of witnesses.

[darkmaster]

Isa lang po ang ibig sabihin nito:


With Cable TV, all channels have the same reception.

And ABS-CBN is mostly watch by the TV viewers with lots of channel selection.


Unlike in Free TV, you can only view/watch a certain network or networks with better signal reception. It can be ABS-CBN, GMA7,ABC5, Studio 23, QTV, et. etc.


There is a certain portion in Mega Manila where only one channel gets clearer signal. ABS-CBN maybe, or GMA7! ANd it can be attested by the TV viewers.

TV viewers cant affort but to watch that network even they dont like the show or not. Gets?



That is why, GMA7 complaint on cable ratings on AGB Nielsen Media Reseach doesn't succeed until now.

I am just wondering, for five years of their complaints, they dont take a chance to file a case against AGB Nielsen Media Reseach Philippines, if they really want a fair and justified ratings releases.


Only until now, to where their station is being dragged of this TV ratings manipulation issue.

Bribering panel homes just to watch a certain station is so pathetic.


Two cents? Hundred cents? Kahit wala, oki lang.

[metropolitan]

ang sa akin lang, kung may pambayad ka ng P500 to P1000 per month for cable TV, hindi ka na siguro kakagat sa offer ng GMA na P500 per month at groceries.

kaya ka nga nagpakabit ng cable para makanood din ng Discovery Channel, HBO, StarWorld, hindi lang local channels.

sa paratang na signal distortion sa channel 12 (GMA7) sa SkyCable, di totoo yun kasi sa mahigit 12 years na subscriber ay di naman distorted ang GMA7. during our first few years as subscribers mas malinaw pa nga ang GMA than ABS-CBN.

[ab3rcrombie23]

Marami pang palusot ang ABS-CBN at mga Kapamilya.

Ito naman ay malnaw pa sa signal sa cable ng tamepring ng Skycable para paboran ang ABS-CBN,
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GMA Network: Disparity in TV ratings is 'legitimate issue'

Article posted January 24, 2008 - 07:39 PM
GMA Network on Thursday issued a statement reacting to claims made by rival network ABS-CBN on the disparity between cable and non-cable ratings of GMA Network programs.


"It is a fact that GMA Network’s competitor owns and/or controls the dominant cable operators in the country. Thus, it is the one who has both the means and opportunity to know where the people meters are installed by AGB Nielsen among cable TV homes.


Di ba eto yung litanya nung NGORK ng NGORK nilang majubis na babaeng chinese? :rotflmao:

Well, such a CONVENIENT excuse for something they've been "fighting" for 5 years but they cant still provide clear and credible evidence to support their claim. 5 years pero walang nangyayari, BAKIT KAYA? :rotflmao:

[mylove]

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[archer07]

yes, five years and still complaining ang gma.

and after trying to seek out evidence everyday on television.

still no witness came up.

seriously wala sigurong strong and massive complaint.

must be wrong somewhere.

[archer07]

yes, five years and still complaining ang gma.

and after trying to seek out evidence everyday on television.

still no witness came up.

seriously wala sigurong strong and massive complaint.

must be wrong somewhere.