New School Racket for Tourism/HRM Students

[the_eXplainerD]

so you think because you're taking up medicine, nursing or engineering that your course is the most the expensive college course? you're dead wrongn.

tourism and hrm students are required to pay for expensive ' learning ' tours ( P 25,000 per semester on top of tuition is a given ) to domestic and foreign destinations such as baguio cebu davao boracay dakak etc hong kong thailand guam etc.

and while the schools and the profs get hefty discounts / commissions for this large group tours year in year out, the students are charged in full, and as students, are also required to work during the tour as guides, cooks, waiters, chambermaids, etc.

i studied in an exclusive school and could say matter of fact that the faculty and students themselves were very particular not to engage in expensive/extravagant school affairs even though most of the students ( their parents ) could afford it.

i was therefore shocked that schools like UST Lyceum and even STI which have tourism/hrm courses require their students to go on these expensive tours as a course requirement. mahiya naman kayong mga school kayo. :bop:

[Reiii]

Hmm.. i guess pexers who are taking up the program could have a say on this..

[fattybearyus]

I don't know why HRM is still popular among hs students.

[babylitemyfire]

my cousin is taking up BS Tourism major in HRM sa isang province... (hinde ko na lang sasabihin ang name ng school)... she's an upcoming 4th yr this june.. may summer class sya and that requires a tour to Thailand.. which is 42k for the 1st batch via Thai airways (manila-bangkok) and 35k for the 2nd batch via Cebu Pacific (cebu-bangkok)..

my cousin wont be able to graduate next yr if she cant join the tour this summer...isa kasi yun sa requirements eh..


may international tour din ba ang Tourism course sa inyo?

if yes, pls put the amount and the name of the school kun pwede...

i know UST offered Tourism course.. but i didnt know if may international tour sila.. malamang meron.. pero i dont know their destination and the cost of the tour..

thanks.

[charmaine_joyce]

Freshmen palang ako ngayon.. Taking Tourism Management in De La Salle University-Dasmariñas.. Inoorient na kami about tours until 4th year namin. Samin, pag 3rd year ka pa lang may internatinal tours na kaagad. But only within asia. Then pag 4th year kana, its your ojt na. Outside asia naman daw...

Kapag 3rd year, siguro estimate na nating nasa 20-30k yun.. not quite sure ah..

[Reiii]

:eek: wow, i actually find this mudkipz.. grabe naman yung curriculum ng Tourism...

[Cyberspace_law]

Di ba may HRM/tourism quiz bee last week participated by UP, DLSU-dasma, UST, etc.? As far as i know UST won the quiz bee

[yoroshikuonegai]

well u cant help it , alangan naman maggrduate ka ng tourism tapos never kapa naka-abroad ng isang beses diba. Basta naman may matututunan ka ok lang gumastos. Pero pag puro bs lang gngawa abroad wag na. Hehe cnsabi lagi ng tatay ko education is the best investment

[lionheart18]

tingin ko naman, alam na naman ng mga tao na ganun nga ang mangyayari sa kanilakapag nagHRM sila. kaya tingin ko ok lang yon, kung ayaw mong gumastos, wag ka na lang magHRM di ba? Sabi nga ng mga kakilala ko, "huwag kang magHHRM masyadong magastos" kaya risk na lang nila yun kung gusto pa rin nila ng HRM. right?

[paenggoy]

How do they learn tourism or HRM in other Asian countries? Is it cheaper or are there fewer requirements?

[charmaine_joyce]

kaya nga, when someone asked a person who is taking the course either hrm/tourism, they always think na mayaman sila yung family nun. Mahal kasi talaga. nakakapulubi na nga eh. Pero feeling ko mas exciting ang pagiging HRM.

[starczamora]

My sister took up HRM and she never had to do those expensive tours. Only her counterparts in Tourism did, pero local destinations lahat.

[clawed_out]

^ I know someone that went on that program and never had to travel internationally nor where they have their curriculum includes international travel.

Where it may do some people good, it may not for the people who cannot afford to do some travelling international. It can make you well aware of cultures other than yours but to some it up it should be taken as an elective not a prerequisite. Then again, I need to know more about the program.


charmaine of DLSU-D:How long has it been since DLSU-D have that program? If that is the case then your program should've produced topnotch world class graduates and this can be a great loophole for those people who wants to work overseas after college.

(pero maglingkod muna sa bayan bago magsuot ng wintercoat o grass skirt)

[charmaine_joyce]

charmaine of DLSU-D:How long has it been since DLSU-D have that program? If that is the case then your program should've produced topnotch world class graduates and this can be a great loophole for those people who wants to work overseas after college.


Not sure kung kelan, pero yung course na Tourism sa DLSU-dasma nagstart siya mga year 2000 or 2001. Hindi ko lang alam kung sa start pa lang na yun, ganon ang requirements..:confused:

Kakatapos lang ng tour namin, but only within country, sa pagkakaalam ko, serve as project namin yun sa major subjects namin. So, if you cant join the tour, sabi nila, it can affects your grades.:(

[Tresehan]

Threadstarter:
Did you know that HRM is the New Nursing? Check POEA data...

And as for the international tour, I think it will help a lot in terms of bringing in to the students a bigger picture of what they are about to do in their lives. And besides it's just 25 thousand, although it maybe quite expensive for a normal Pinoy family, i think the price is just reasonable. And besides it is let known upon enrollment during freshmen years, so if a student couldn't afford it then why take up HRM. It's like taking up med too, you won't take med if you know your family can't sustain the financial req, and so with Architecture...

[clawed_out]

^ Tourism is good for the region right now to promote Asian (or Thrid World) culture.

The more exotic it gets, the more it attracts visitors.

Philippines badly needs people to promote our dying culture.

Lahat kasi puro malls and restaurants (chain restaurants which doesn't show much to our culture but mirroring the westerns)

Threadstarter: You base your life on "sabi nila" and all the uncertainties. Those are not good things to live by.

[sponklong]

so you think because you're taking up medicine, nursing or engineering that your course is the most the expensive college course? you're dead wrongn.

tourism and hrm students are required to pay for expensive ' learning ' tours ( P 25,000 per semester on top of tuition is a given ) to domestic and foreign destinations such as baguio cebu davao boracay dakak etc hong kong thailand guam etc.

and while the schools and the profs get hefty discounts / commissions for this large group tours year in year out, the students are charged in full, and as students, are also required to work during the tour as guides, cooks, waiters, chambermaids, etc.

i studied in an exclusive school and could say matter of fact that the faculty and students themselves were very particular not to engage in expensive/extravagant school affairs even though most of the students ( their parents ) could afford it.

i was therefore shocked that schools like UST Lyceum and even STI which have tourism/hrm courses require their students to go on these expensive tours as a course requirement. mahiya naman kayong mga school kayo. :bop:

I agree... but that is only the tip of the iceberg. Lyceum Batangas Dean of HRM Dexter Buted is king of the racket, immorality.

Why? The guy collects money directly for OJT placements. Payments for such activities like familiarization or learning tour, ojt placement fees are paid directly to the guy dexter buted by students. If the student do not have enough resources, they cannot graduate due to incomplete requirements. Poor student. :depressed:

Worst, the school tolerate such activity because the dean is in cahoots with some senior officials.

My friend from batangas do have a voice recording of a student spilling the beans. Confessing about the illicit acitivities of the dean.

Also, this dean of HRM do have a catering business. He uses his students as waiters during catering services rendered in different functions not related in school. And good looking male students are also being used for his/her full satisfaction of the libido.

All students are afraid of this dishonesty man.

Geez... no wonder quality of education in such schools are way below par. The school itself thru its dean promotes dishonesty at on the highest level.

[batang_askal]

Lyceum of Batangas? Yan din sabi ng pinsan ko na nagbigay ng P25,000 sa Dean nila ng walang resibo. Sabi educational trip tapos ginawa lang silang waiter dun sa catering business niya!

Sana po makialam na ang CHED dito!:grrr:

[batang_askal]

Ganun din ang sabi ng pinsan ko.

[chillin_here]

I just graduated BS Tourism from UST. In fairness naman s kanila, we're not required to join those expensive tours. But of course, gusto mo maexperience man lang db? and may matututunan ka ** naman sa tours. I didn't join the international tour because it was waaaay too expensive for me. But it's ok, I joined the domestic tours naman. hehe. ang required lang hotel tour and tour guiding which is overnight lang.. mura *** naman and reasonable kung bakit required. *** domestic tour sa bohol hindi din required.. *** students ** *** ang namimili kung san sila pupunta.. as a batch, of course hehe..

Nainggit p naman ako sa Lyceum and STI kc pinagmamalaki nila na nagOOJT sila outside the country. UST kc doesn't allow their students to do that because of safety issues. and hindi daw maiiwasan na isipin na pinagkakaperahan nila ang mga students. which is exactly the case with Lyceum tama b? hehe..

Happy naman ako na Tourism ang kinuha ko.. nung undergrad ako, I was afraid na mag-end up lang ako sa callcenter.. But you know.. kelangan lang **** patient ka sa paghahanap ng opportunities.. and dapat gusto mo **** *** kinuha mo na course.. and dapat alam mo na may future ka sa course na yon! hehe.. hindi lang dahil sabi ng parents mo at dahil uso.. :D

[batang_askal]

But comparing UST with Lyceum of Batangas susme!

[chillin_here]

pero bakit nga ba hindi magreklamo ang students ng lyceum batangas? mali kc yon gngwa ng dean nila kung totoo nga yon.. dapat dun ikulong sa bilibid!

[batang_askal]

Am sure takot mga students magsumbong sa CHED, sa pulis o sa kinauukulan sa mga ganitong alingasngas!

I think mga politko ang may ari ng Lyceum of Batangas at alam niyo naman sa probinsiya. (no pun intended).

Kung totoo man ito, sana imbestigahan ng CHED o di kaya ng XXX or Imbestigador. Kaya tuloy, ang baba ng kalidad ng edukasyon eh.

[pup2]

Actually, if the Dean is doing that on the sly, baka pasalamatan pa nung owners yung magsusumbong.

Just the fact na tumanggap siya ng pera without a school receipt means the funds may not be accounted for officially.

Pero siyempre, dapat may solid evidence yan. Di puwedeng sabi ni ganito, sabi ni ganyan.

[batang_askal]

Tama ka diyan, pup. Kaya dapat lumabas yung mga students na nagbabayad diumano sa Dean ng Lyceum of Batangas. Isumbong nila sa CHED o kung walang aksyon, huwag nila patantanan kay Mike Enriquez!:bop:

[chillin_here]

wala bang students and lyceum batangas dito?

pero kung kayo tatanungin, magrereklamo ba kayo s CHED kahit may risk na gantihan kayo ng dean na irereklamo nyo? i mean, nakakatakot din naman, baka hindi sila maka-graduate..

[Johnston]

I took up BS Tourism at San Sebastian College, and yes, we had our domestic (4 times) and international tours. These tours are optional, but will require you to submit a feasibility study-like documents. Kaya no choice ang iba na sumama talaga.

Our institution offers optional overseas practicum, Singapore and the US.

[borabora71]

Ok lang magbayad ng mga expensive educational tours na ito basta lahat transparent and properly documented by receipts. Eh ang mahirap kung puro patago.

Ganyan pala kalakaran ng Lyceum of Batangas, mga HRM students ginagawang waiter ng kanilang Dean for his own business? That is soooo digusting!

Sana may maglakas loob pero mahirap sa mga students, siguro yung mga dating graduates para maimbestigahan ang Dean na ito ng Lyceum of Batangas!:grrr:

[charmaine_joyce]

Grabe naman sa Lyceum Batangas, bakit ganon?

I took up BS Tourism at San Sebastian College, and yes, we had our domestic (4 times) and international tours. These tours are optional, but will require you to submit a feasibility study-like documents. Kaya no choice ang iba na sumama talaga.

Our institution offers optional overseas practicum, Singapore and the US.


Johnston, glad to know we have the same course.:)

So, graduated kana ba?:confused: If you don't mind asking?

[borabora71]

No wonder that with this kind of corruption in the educational system in recent years, the standard of education sucks!

Eh, dati wala naman iyang mga accreditation na iyan at mga ISO na iyan sa academe but we were better off then. I think raket lang at pera pera na lang din iyan mga accreditation na iyan.:mecry:

[batang_askal]

nge, hindi ko pag aralin diyan ang anak ko:angry:

[dahae]

Char: wow! tourism pala course moh.... mla joo yoo rin kah!!

masaya tourism!! as in!! hahaha!! masaya mag tour.. OJT.... depende naman din kung magastos or hindi eh...

lyceum of batangas? anu ba namn yan!

[charmaine_joyce]

^dahae! :wave:

actually, kinuha ko tong course na to to be like Yoo Rin..:lol:

Yep, medyo magastos nga, pero worth it naman eh, kaya nga nag-aaral akong mabuti eh,

So, all students must be aware that thi course is pretty expensive. *okay*

But I hope, the time when I will graduate, I hope it's not tough to seek for jobs. :bop:

[yo_soy_guapo]

I'm an HRM student in UST, pag first year meron local tour, twing 2nd sem sya ginaganap, top destination was always Bohol, Palawan or Ilocos. Last year Bohol and Palawan pinuntahan ( 2 sections ang sa Bohol and 3 sections sa Palawan ). pag 3rd year may international tour. Nagkakaron ng botohan kung anong bansa ang pupuntahan. HK/Macau/Beijing nanalo last sem. Hindi naman required na sumali pero sa mga maiiwan its either may ipapagawa sayong research or magtour kayo ng mga naiwan sa isang hotel.

Sa Tourism may local and Intl tour din. madalas magkaiba ng lugar ang pinupuntahan ang HRm and Tourism students

[pbbaddict23]

yong pamanakin ko gusto rin hrm/tourism.maganda san UST kaso Academic placement sya nagpareconsider pakami sa Dean ng ITHM..sa San Sebastian ba maganda???paano ba pumunta dun??taga balagtas bulacan kami..help naman!!! salamat po

[sanpo]

Threadstarter:
Did you know that HRM is the New Nursing? Check POEA data...

Lol, latest rise in interest for HRM might probably because of shows like topchef / hell's kitchen / master chef / etc etc.. There's been alot of interest in cooking shows lately, even in games. :o

On topic, well some schools tend to have teachers that have their own ways of making 'extra money'. And you have to admit this is more rampant in less known schools than the more famous ones. (But these rackets still happen even in the best uni in the philippines lol)

[LabuyoXVIII]

I don't know why HRM is still popular among hs students.

HRM is a very diverse course - you have business management and hotel operations on one side, and you also have humanities and art on the other. You get to learn a new language as an elective, you get to spend most of your time in the kitchen and call that lab class while you're having fun, you get to explore your gastronomic, and culinary expertise, you have a license to get tipsy or totally wasted during mixology and bar management, and you get to learn food styling and photography.

Sure, the Hospitality and Tourism industry is a service-oriented industry, but it sure hell is fun. People think working in a hotel or a classy restaurant is "elegant" because of how you look - but then again you have to put on a face especially with guests who act like they own the world simply because they can pay for the tab.

HRM is fun that's why a lot of people are into it. Heck, even graduates of Business Ad and Commerce get into the business of putting up a restaurant simply because food is a major part of everyone's lives.

HRM is magastos - but you're not required to do the international tours and trips if you don't want to. I guess the one that I went to and had fun was Macau - we snuck out of the hotel and tried going to the Casinos. :)

There was a proposed Australian Cruise tour for us during my junior year in college. We were all opposed to it because it was more expensive than our tuition fee for one whole semester.

[dritz]

Im from lyceum manila, not batangas. Hehehe. Though wala akong alam sa case ng lyceum batangas.

I dont think naman the school takes advantage of us when it comes to tours. Sa lyceum manila po kase, every 1st sem lang ang tours, tapos every year level iba2 ang destinations. 1st and 2nd yr are not allowed to join tours outside luzon and international. Yung international tours once a year lang and every summer ginagawa. Mostly asian countries lang or a cruise trip since may cruiseline mgmt course ang lyce. Hindi po required samin ang tours, sa tourism ang required sa kanila ay yung local tours lang within luzon. Yung price naman reasonable and cheap na.

With the intl ojt naman. Nasa agency na po yun, wala ng kinalaman ang school sa ilalabas mong pera. Ang hatian nyan bale 60-40, 60 sa agency 40 sa student. Yung mga classmates ko ngayon they will be leaving for singapore this month.

Hindi naman isyu samen *** tours and ojts. Ang isyu samen yung stock room, xerox machine and yung books na nirrequired di naman ginagamit. Hahaha.

Anyway, hospitality industry is the biggest industry right now, eh kahet nga recession hindi naman masyado apektado yan. Andaming opportunities for us, kaya mahal ang tuition. Hahaha.

[diesel_girl]

From a professor's POV, educational tours are really different from your regular "recreational" tour. There are certain objectives to be achieved during the tour..its more of experiential learning and application of what you have learned "theoretically".

...reasons why some tours are expensive? ASK your school admin hehehe...

[kohz]

its more of experiential learning and application of what you have learned "theoretically".

Exactly.
We were exposed to different hotels when we had our domestic tour. It was very educational (at the same time, fun) because you get to know better the industry you are entering. We also had a bunch of gatherings to improve our socialization skills. *okay*