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Kit Layog
Apr 15, 2008, 07:38 PM
Preparatory Work

So it has happened: you have fired up your Dell PC, and - nothing. Or the dreaded "cannot find boot drive" or something like that. Now you are forced into the unenviable position of having to call Dell Off-shore Hardware Support. Look at it as a journey, one on which you will be tested, much like Job or Arthur Dent. You will descend into the ninth circle, but with the proper preparation, tools and attitude, you will return, a better person for it.

First, before you call, prepare. Raid your kids' library and find some simple reading primers along the lines of "See Spot Run." This will help you speak in non-complex sentences and monosyllabic words.

Make an appointment for that root canal you have been putting off. After what you are about to experience, you will look forward to it.

Buy a speakerphone; it's tough to stay rational when your neck is cramped.

When you are ready to MAKE THE CALL, go to the bathroom, take an aspirin, get a book or crossword, stock up on water and nibbles (preferably ones with high sugar content and no nutritional value; Twinkies are good). Shoo the kids out of your den; it's possible that they will hear things that could cause serious psychological issues later.

Do your relaxation exercises; take a sip of water; remember Dan Rather's closing, "Courage." And MAKE THE CALL.

What Happens Next

The first thing that you will get is a recorded announcement saying that you can go to support.dell.com online to get help. This is your first test. Refrain from screaming that your PC is broken and you can't GET to the Internet. This is where it is handy to have a towel to bite on, so your family doesn't hear you screaming at a recording.

You may also be asked to enter your "Express Service Code." (The discussion of why you have an "Express" Service Code when you are spending a long time on hold is best put off for another time.)

Eventually you will get to a person. You will tell him/her why you are calling, and most likely you will be told you have to call someone else. They will offer to transfer you, but before they do, GET THE EXENSION NUMBER. This is very important, especially when (not if) you get cut off. Note that it is a seven-digit extension number.

While waiting, pause and ponder the size and complexity of a company that needs an extension number the size of your phone number.

Now you are getting close. You will eventually get to someone who after getting your name, address, problem, and again, Express Service code, will say the magic words, "I can help you with that problem." You have now contacted a Dell Offshore Personal Expert - a DOPE.

Some notes on this part of the process:

* The DOPE will probably call you by your first name, because he/she wants to be your new best friend.

* He/she will profusely thank you at every step of the way for the same reason.

* He/she will have a notable American name like Patrick, Matthew or even a Shaun. Do not react to this.

But congratulations; YOU HAVE REACHED SOMEONE WHO IS TRYING TO HELP YOU! You reached the ninth circle, and all you have to do is return.

The Return

What happens now will vary depending on your problem. But here are some guidelines for dealing with the DOPES.

* Do not yell at them. Aside from the fact that it is rude, I think the phone system has a volume limiter that will cut you off. Bite the towel instead.

* Do not try sarcasm; DOPES don't understand it. Again, bite the towel.

* Ditto humor.

* Do not use words like "escalate" or "supervisor." In my case, they were greeted by a frosty silence. My guess is that they sound like obscenities in the local language.

* Do not ask if there is U.S.-based support. You will be told that there is "no U.S.-based Dell support."

* You may be told that the DOPE will take personal responsibility for your problem. Loosely translated, this means you will never hear from him/her again.

There is Hope

At some point in this process, you may reach a Newly Oriented Dell Off-shore Personal Expert - a NO-DOPE. This is a person that has recently joined Dell who hasn't been fully trained and therefore will approach your problem in a friendly, knowledgeable and professional manner. He/she will solve your problem in less time than it took to write this.

The moral of the story is to keep trying; eventually you will reach a NO-DOPE.

You Have Done It

See, I told you that you could do it. Let the kids and pets back in, throw out the towel, and start using complex sentences and polysyllabic words again. And late that night, after everyone has gone to bed, break out the 12-year-old stuff, and toast yourself. Tomorrow you can reload all your programs and restore your data from your backup. You do have a backup, don't you?

(All of the events related here are based on my experience with two incidents. The process was so frustrating that I probably will not buy another Dell. And of course apologies to Dante, Doug Adams, Greek mythology and those at Dell Off-shore Support who are great.)

swellbong
Apr 17, 2008, 03:25 PM
I can not believe that this was quoted from NY Times. This is a sweep generalization to not just the Dell people, but to all customer service agents of our country. Tsk tsk.

chinito_henson
Apr 17, 2008, 03:58 PM
is he referring to dell phil? dont dell have an offshore center in india or other countries?

therealdeal
Apr 17, 2008, 05:06 PM
^probably india site

Graham Aker
Apr 17, 2008, 05:29 PM
Well, the article is from David Pogue's column and he's a well known Mac fanboy. Although the article is from his column the article itself was written by John Strumpf a self-proclaimed "retired geek".

The article may have hit some of our nerves but the article itself is satire so just relax and enjoy the humor. :D

QT II
Apr 18, 2008, 10:55 PM
is he referring to dell phil? dont dell have an offshore center in india or other countries?

It's hard to tell...the writer did not hit on any linguistic quirks that would possibly give away the DOPE as a non-American (maybe... aside from the propensity of having an "American"-sounding handle. For all I know, he could have called himself "Malik" and still pass himself off as a Yank)

leyross
May 1, 2008, 04:08 AM
I think the DOPE are the Indians and the NO-DOPE are the Filipinos. :)
Filipinos are friendly and humorous and we also know how to deal with the sarcasms of the americans.

incognitus1
May 1, 2008, 01:59 PM
That article is one of the most insulting crap that I have ever read in my entire life!

I am a computer technician by profession and honestly it took me a couple of years to understand how these computers work and how to fix them . Do you honestly believe, a person who doesn't know a thing about computers can troubleshoot all problems about his pc right away with the help of a Tech support?

Tech Support can only do so much and it would still depend on how complicated the pc or computer problem is.

Some issues can be fixed via phone but some cannot and would require a real computer technician to have it fixed.

I believe a little understanding and common sense from the "customers" can save them a lot of trouble.

Of course, these smart people our customers have the audacity to say that "they don't know that" ....that has always been their excuse. It is so easy for them to say a lot about things they do not completely understand.

recruit4nco
May 2, 2008, 02:53 AM
They say dell ruined "offshoring" for everyone because of their Indian call centers. I agree. :D

Amuro_Ray
May 2, 2008, 08:58 AM
They say dell ruined "offshoring" for everyone because of their Indian call centers. I agree. :D
Heh, in my experience in TS, pag na-transfer na call sa amin mula sa India sumasakit na ulo namin. Indians, I dunno, maybe its a cultural thing, never stray from the scripted actions (and replies) unlike Pinoys who are flexible enough to perform their jobs in a manner that the customer understands. Pag natanong sa akin kung bumbay ako at nalaman na pinoy ako parang pakiramdam nila ay "thank god!" :lol:

dokikok
May 24, 2008, 08:26 AM
it's outright prejudice and racist. hell w/ them.

lunarpanda
May 24, 2008, 10:46 AM
racism indeed ... and to think it came from a notable newspaper. :hmm:

for what i know ... sites here will concentrate on Dell's high-end computers while the low-end ones will be in India, since Filipinos are more tech-savvy and CSAT here is higher.

... and if you hear the customer asking "are you Indian?" then that can be equivalent to "I don't want to speak to you." so far i haven't encountered an american asking "are you a Filipino?" :p

shamsidle
May 25, 2008, 03:06 AM
some americans are a bunch of "know-it-alls"....

kaasar talaga pag may call kang ganun....

pero meron naman talagang mga amerikano na ang babait at sobrang understanding....

sometimes you really can't blame them for being frustrated at you kasi may mga bwisit din talagang tsr either here or somewhere else like in india.

swertehan din lang kung puro mababait yung natawag sayong customer.... harhar...

sabaybunot
May 25, 2008, 08:14 PM
Oh please.. You folks sound like you're about to take up picket lines in front of the embassy for this.


The writer just said off-shore.. doesn't necessarily mean Philippines ayt? And even if they did, only shows what kind of impression customers have about the kind of service that Dell's techies are giveout.

Amuro_Ray
May 25, 2008, 11:19 PM
... and if you hear the customer asking "are you Indian?" then that can be equivalent to "I don't want to speak to you." so far i haven't encountered an american asking "are you a Filipino?" :p

From my experience, Americans seemed more relieved if they find out I'm a Filipino when they ask "Are you in India?". I think its because as a former American colony and the colonial mentality we can relate more and are more familiar to American culture to them than the Indians.

IcYwAtEr
Jul 8, 2008, 10:20 AM
Heh, in my experience in TS, pag na-transfer na call sa amin mula sa India sumasakit na ulo namin. Indians, I dunno, maybe its a cultural thing, never stray from the scripted actions (and replies) unlike Pinoys who are flexible enough to perform their jobs in a manner that the customer understands. Pag natanong sa akin kung bumbay ako at nalaman na pinoy ako parang pakiramdam nila ay "thank god!" :lol:

Tama ka dyan kapag nakatanggap ka ng call from India. **** EMPATHY to the nth level na toh. dahil yun mga issue ng customer na sobra simple lang pinapagawa pa nila sa customer ang system restore na hindi naman masyado nakakatulong sa iba problem ng computer. :bop::bop::bop:

pan_Y_vino
Jul 9, 2008, 12:27 AM
how about a call from an indian customer?

from what i've experienced, indians are the most difficult people to deal with. i'd rather talk to an irate american than an indian.
damn, kung demanding ang mga kano mas demanding mga indiano..

madmutt
Jul 9, 2008, 06:19 AM
haha ang nagpost (Kit Layog) loser na galing ng Dell Pasay...

alam namin may galit ka sa Pasay pero san ka ba nag-work ngayon? sa Dell account ng Teletech di ba...hahahaha

aceylicious
Sep 18, 2008, 04:22 AM
baka naman wala na rin cia sa TTEC NOVA...ehehehe...ang alam ko trainer yata cia or supervisor...not sure...basta ang alam ko eh nawala na lang cia bigla sa MOA pero nagbalik cia para umattend ng training for TTEC NOVA....

hopper1328
Sep 18, 2008, 06:22 PM
RS sya sa TeleTech Nova.. dunno if until now RS or na-promote na.. madali lang naman ma-promote sa ibang call center eh, basta kasama ka sa smoking area at inuman.. you're in good hands.. har har har :bop: :D :bop: :D :bop:

conan69
Sep 18, 2008, 09:20 PM
i find that post funny. ganyan lang talaga kano mahilig mang asar, ang pinoy numero unong pikon

pink_shimmer
Sep 18, 2008, 10:23 PM
feeling ko indiano ang tinutukoy nya na DOPE, kase wag daw banggitin ang salitang escalate or supervisor. haha. eh lahat ng nagwowork sa call center dito or kahit hindi sa call center alam ang ibig sabihin ng salitang yun..


racism indeed ... and to think it came from a notable newspaper. :hmm:

for what i know ... sites here will concentrate on Dell's high-end computers while the low-end ones will be in India, since Filipinos are more tech-savvy and CSAT here is higher.

... and if you hear the customer asking "are you Indian?" then that can be equivalent to "I don't want to speak to you." so far i haven't encountered an american asking "are you a Filipino?" :p

ay ako may naencounter nang ganyan. tinanong ako kung filipino ako. tas nung sinabi kong oo, reply lang nya "thank God! Indians are very hard to deal with." evil amp! haha!:lol: