POINTWEST or SVI or CPI: BEST PROGRAMMER TRAINEE POSITION

[.::guapito::.]

So among these companies na nag-oofer ng programmer trainee position, san mas better? pede ring rank na lang ng 3 IT companies stated..

1. better in case ng exam. (meron bang programming part) and interview

2. better in case ng training.

3. better in sweldo during training (full ba agad ang binibigay at hindi allowance lang). pls give salary range! pls pls pls :lol:

4. better in terms of sweldo after training. (yung pagiging marketable mo) :love:

5. better in benefits (sss, pag-ibig, philhealth, medical, VL/ SL, bonus, 13th to 14th or up to 16th month) :bashful:

6. and lastly, better in terms of growth (promotion) :D

[.::guapito::.]

up up up!!!

[Emongski]

to answer all your questions, it only needs three sentences:

(1)go for pointwest. (2)do whatever it takes to get there. (3)period.

[.::guapito::.]

to answer all your questions, it only needs three sentences:

(1)go for pointwest. (2)do whatever it takes to get there. (3)period.

nakaka-frustrate naman! e nung nag-exam ako especially sa right minus wrong nila, wala ako masyadong nasagot sa math probs and hirap!!!

gano ba katagal para malaman ang result? and from pointwest ka ba?

[AbulugAdventure]

Try mo SVI. Maganda daw ang training dun. Saka pati ang sweldo. For a trainee, more than 12k ang sweldo. Yung languages na pagagamitin sa 'yo e Java, C++, yung mga pang-mainframe, .Net, hindi ko pa alam yung iba. Pero mga tatlo o higit pa ang ituturo sa yo. Yun nga lang, di ka makakapili ng set ng languages na ituturo sa yo. Pati yung exams nila ay Harvard-type din. :D

Pero yung mga kakilala ko e sabi maganda daw talaga dito.

[.::guapito::.]

Try mo SVI. Maganda daw ang training dun. Saka pati ang sweldo. For a trainee, more than 12k ang sweldo. Yung languages na pagagamitin sa 'yo e Java, C++, yung mga pang-mainframe, .Net, hindi ko pa alam yung iba. Pero mga tatlo o higit pa ang ituturo sa yo. Yun nga lang, di ka makakapili ng set ng languages na ituturo sa yo. Pati yung exams nila ay Harvard-type din. :D

Pero yung mga kakilala ko e sabi maganda daw talaga dito.

a ok. cge pag bumagsak ako sa pointwest, i'll try here. mas better ba ang SVI kesa sa CPI. kasi as of now, no. 1 sa list ko ang pointwest, then CPI and SVI, base dun sa CPI vs SVi thread, mas marami nagsabing ok sa CPI.

anyway, 12k, ambaba, ganundin ba offer nila sa mga career shifter? hindi ba nila pedeng pantayan or lampasan yung current sweldo ngayon ng career shifter like me if ever, like kunwai, 20K ako, hindi ba nila pede gawing 25K? hehehe

[AbulugAdventure]

^ I said MORE THAN 12 k. Ayoko nang sabihin ang exact figures since last year pa ito, but it's more than 12 k.

[AbulugAdventure]

...saka masyadong mataas na ang 20k as salary sa isang entry-level at career shifter. Try mo Azeus, yun ang alam kong mataas magpasahod.

SVI is WAY more than 12 k, pero di naman aabot ng level ng sweldo ng Azeus. ;)

[Emongski]

the threadstarter said only three options that's why i picked the best among the three.

nakakafrustrate talaga makapasa sa pointwest. gusto ko rin sana doon pero mukhang ayaw nila sa akin. hehehe! yun nga lang, sya ang the best talaga. try mo muna sa pointwest before going elsewhere.

mahirap talaga exam nila. yun nga lang, there's nothing wrong in trying to apply there.

svi would be the 2nd best option. their environment is almost the same compared to pointwest.

cpi? hmmm... nakapasa ako rito kaya lang, sinabi nila sablay ang grades ko. at isa pa, medyo marami na ako naririnig na masama against them. yun nga lang, maganda rin naman ang training dito. hindi ko nalang sasabihin kung anu-ano yung mga yun... it is for all of you to find out...

[grimal123]

sa mga nabasa ko wala pa naman ako nababasa masama about sa CPI so far yun nga lang medyo strict sila sa TOR pero try to defend kung bakit ka bumagsak mag apply din ako dito soon.

[.::guapito::.]

nag exam na ko sa pointwest and i have a strong feeling na bagsak ako! hehehe, sana sa TOR, university & ex-company na lang sila tumingin, kasi ok na ok ang company ko and known talaga but i want to go elsewhere! and pagdating sa grades, ok naman, yun nga lang except for accounting subjects pero wala namang bagsak, and i came from one of the top3 univ so i hope talaga i-consider nila yun, wag na yung exam! hehehe

waaah so SVI ang next in terms of salary & training at hindi CPI. im confused! base sa thread na CPI vs SVI, mas maraming in favor of CPI, although one wrote na after training, mas malaki ang magiging salary sa SVI

and base din sa backreading ko, most pointwest employees came from SVI.

per sino kaya sa mga companies na yan ang makakapagprovide at least 18K for a trainee position, although mababa pa rin with what im already receiving pero yun nga, i really really want a career shift!

@emongski, san ka ba nagwowork? career shifter ka din ba?

[AbulugAdventure]

^ Azeus, try mo. Mataas ang sahod nila. Yun nga lang dami mong work. But training is very good, too. Like SVI, CMMI lvl. 5 sila, ang pinakamataas na level ng accreditation sa IT firms. Dalawa lang ata sila ng SVI na me ganitong level, e.

I strongly advice you to these two companies.

[.::guapito::.]

parang ayoko muna sa azeus hehehe.. siguro pag nagfail ako sa pointwest, try ko na ang SVI, then next and CPI then next na ang azeus pag wala pa rin. hehe

pero sana lang 18K, huling tawad hehe

[AbulugAdventure]

Di ko alam sa Azeus, pero basta mataas, lalo na pag developer. Yung sa SVI, medyo malapit na sa 18k as trainee, no kidding.

Try mo pareho. Uulitin ko - CMM Lvl. 5 yan...ibig sabihin, the best! ;)

[.::guapito::.]

i see, thanks abulugadventure. you from SVI? pag bumagsak akong pointwest, i'll go for SVI.. may bond ba? and yung "malapit na sa 18K" salary e makukuha ba in full habang trainee? kasi other companies, provides allowance lang

[grimal123]

SVI sir panu po mag apply dun? nid ko ng work 3months nako pending sa house

[AkiFoblesia]

nabigyan ako ng offer on those three companies as programmer trainee. pero sa iba ko nag work. nweys, kung dun lang sa tatlong yun:

1. Make Pointwest your priority. Nag offer sa kin ng same lang as sa SVI, pero mas mahaba ang bond. Pero mas gusto ko atmosphere ng office nila.

2. SVI.

3. CPI.

But then again, try Azeus first. Kung may IT background ka, go for the developer position. Kung wala, go for the tester position.

[AbulugAdventure]

^ Kala ko 10k ang Pt.west? Kasi mas mataas dyan ang sa SVI.

*scratches head*

guapito: I'm NOT from SVI pero nag-back-out sa final stage na, kasi ECE ako and I decided to pursue my course instead. Sayang nga, e. Ang nakahanda sana sa kin ay Java, .Net at isa pang program na nakalimutan ko na, para kasing pang-mainframe yun, e. Ang gaganda nitong program na ito, e. Pero ok lang. Yes, yun yung makukuha mo as trainee. O, sige sabihin ko na nga yung sweldo, since obsolete na ito dahil last year and a half pa pa yung sweldong yan... 15k as trainee, 17k upon regularization. Yung naunang pumasok sa kin ng kalahating taon e halos doble na ng trainee allowance na! Wala pang dalawang taon yun.

Nanghinayang ako ng konti, lalo na sa mga software na ituturo nila sa batch ko, pero ganun talaga, e.

Apply na!...pati sa Azeus na din.

[pagie]

nakaka-frustrate naman! e nung nag-exam ako especially sa right minus wrong nila, wala ako masyadong nasagot sa math probs and hirap!!!

gano ba katagal para malaman ang result? and from pointwest ka ba?

Parehong-pareho ang exam ng pointwest at cpi, yan ay ayon sa kasama kong nag-exam sa pointwest den sa cpi. kung gusto mo mag-exam sa cpi, better review what you have encountered in pointwest.:)

[.::guapito::.]

ok ba talaga ang Azeus kasi...

chinese company siya, and currently, asa ganung company ako and hindi maganda. walang growth, may discrimination and yung kalahi lang nila ang may future. hehehehe. i'm not trying to bash them ha kasi they're good people naman, yun nga lang, napakalimited ng growth mo if you're working with them.. based on what i am experiencing now

[.::guapito::.]

nabigyan ako ng offer on those three companies as programmer trainee. pero sa iba ko nag work. nweys, kung dun lang sa tatlong yun:

1. Make Pointwest your priority. Nag offer sa kin ng same lang as sa SVI, pero mas mahaba ang bond. Pero mas gusto ko atmosphere ng office nila.

2. SVI.

3. CPI.

But then again, try Azeus first. Kung may IT background ka, go for the developer position. Kung wala, go for the tester position.


so, is it safe to say that you're from Azeus.. pede pa-PM or maybe pa-post so we could apply there hehehe, medyo na inspire kasi ako sa iyong thread re: TIPS on shifting to IT *okay*

[Emongski]

@grimal:

i have a lot of failing grades and dropped subjects, more than you could ever imagine. how can you defend that if you were me?

ang sakin lang, just be honest when you're applying here if you have more than 10 failing grades. its head honcho can do an instant roundhouse kick in your arses if you cannot prove to (him/her) that you have already changed your ways. it's up to you on how to market yourselves (by saying that the you have good logical skills, you're a fast learner, a hard worker, etc.) to (him/her) because you know yourselves more than i.

you can easily defend your transcript when you only have few failing subjects (1-5 maybe?):

1. just fabricate good reasons and get ready to answer "that question" when the moment arises. kahit konting palusot lang, pwede na yun.

2. you can also be honest with yourselves and just tell the whole truth on why you had a couple of failing grades. who knows, maybe you only had financial problems back then. again, you know yourselves more than i.

of course hindi ko sasabihin yung ibang nalalaman ko sa cpi for other applicants' sake. kasi it would be very unfair for them na hindi nila malalaman by themselves. malalaman nila yun kapag nabigyan na sila ng job offer.

in fairness, gusto ko rin magtrabaho doon. sabi ko nga earlier, maganda ang training doon and what's more, people there, especially the hr's are "nice". pay is not so nice, PERO, the learning and the exposure (they have a list consisting of GREAT clients) that you'll get there is what matters most. generally, ok naman kung gusto nyo magwork sa cpi.

just do not overestimate this company, especially its tiny office, or your expectations will just be shattered in a hurry.

@guapito:

i have a friend who works in pointwest. that's why i have some info about the company. he gave me stories about this company that's why i recommend this company to my other friends. you can also look at pointwest's thread:

About Poinwest Technologies

i am a career shifter. i'm a computer engineering grad from a "bulok" na school, whose transcript and diploma he recieved 8 months after finishing his studies (those effin' school internal problems suck). i'm trying to pursue my dreams as a programmer.

unfortunately, i only have my humble words to help somebody whenever i can, since i'm still unemployed.

i hope you have passed on pointwest's aptitude tests. it's fun to be there. somebody will email you regarding your results. good luck and god bless!

[AbulugAdventure]

ok ba talaga ang Azeus kasi...

chinese company siya, and currently, asa ganung company ako and hindi maganda. walang growth, may discrimination and yung kalahi lang nila ang may future. hehehehe. i'm not trying to bash them ha kasi they're good people naman, yun nga lang, napakalimited ng growth mo if you're working with them.. based on what i am experiencing now

Azeus is a very good company. Maganda ang magiging growth ng IT field mo dito. Mataas ang sweldo. Maganda rin ang training.

Yun nga lang...

- you HAVE to choose kung anong gagagwin mo - developer o tester? Pag nakapili ka na, hindi ka na makakalipat ng kabilang field
- medyo paduguan ang trabaho dito, so dapat di tatamad-tamad.

[.::guapito::.]

of course hindi ko sasabihin yung ibang nalalaman ko sa cpi for other applicants' sake. kasi it would be very unfair for them na hindi nila malalaman by themselves. malalaman nila yun kapag nabigyan na sila ng job offer.

in fairness, gusto ko rin magtrabaho doon. sabi ko nga earlier, maganda ang training doon and what's more, people there, especially the hr's are "nice". pay is not so nice, PERO, the learning and the exposure (they have a list consisting of GREAT clients) that you'll get there is what matters most. generally, ok naman kung gusto nyo magwork sa cpi.

just do not overestimate this company, especially its tiny office, or your expectations will just be shattered in a hurry.

@guapito:

i have a friend who works in pointwest. that's why i have some info about the company. he gave me stories about this company that's why i recommend this company to my other friends. you can also look at pointwest's thread:

About Poinwest Technologies

i am a career shifter. i'm a computer engineering grad from a "bulok" na school, whose transcript and diploma he recieved 8 months after finishing his studies (those effin' school internal problems suck). i'm trying to pursue my dreams as a programmer.

unfortunately, i only have my humble words to help somebody whenever i can, since i'm still unemployed.

i hope you have passed on pointwest's aptitude tests. it's fun to be there. somebody will email you regarding your results. good luck and god bless!

thanks emongski. reading between the lines, my top 2 na lang is pointwest then SVI. hehehe

wala pa rin result yung exam, gano ba yun katagal? kunsabgay i should not hope for anything lalo't marami akong blanko sa exam! hehehe!

[.::guapito::.]

Azeus is a very good company. Maganda ang magiging growth ng IT field mo dito. Mataas ang sweldo. Maganda rin ang training.

Yun nga lang...

- you HAVE to choose kung anong gagagwin mo - developer o tester? Pag nakapili ka na, hindi ka na makakalipat ng kabilang field
- medyo paduguan ang trabaho dito, so dapat di tatamad-tamad.

i'm lost.. what do you mean? hehehe!

after (if ever, i have pursued my programming dream), what will happen next, i need to choose becoming developer or tester?

[AbulugAdventure]

Sa Azeus, kailangan ALAM mo na kung ano ang gusto mo...developer or tester...before taking the exam. Dyan kasi babase ang HR kung anong eexaminin mo. At kapag nakapili ka na ng isa...HINDI ka na makakalipat sa kabila. So kung tester ka, tester ka na dyan hanggang magresign ka, kung developer, developer ka na dyan habambuhay dyan. ;)

You HAVE TO choose first before taking the exam.

[kerb]

Dati ako taga SVI. Karamihan nga sa Pt West, mga ex-SVI employees. So far yung mga kakilala ko nandun pa rin sila so probably ok naman dun ;).
Kyng dev ka, pwede ka maging tester, tester lang di pwede maging developer hehe.

[at0miq]

Pareho lang ata ang exam sa SVI at Pointwest - right minus wrong.

Ang mayari ng Pointwest dating taga-SVI. Parang breakaway group yang Pointwest. Same environment lang halos pero mas sosyal Pointwest. :lol:

I suggest, you choose Pointwest first. Sa SVI, maganda talaga pero dati un. Ngayon :rolleyes: Take it from me. :hmm:

[Emongski]

@guapito:

somebody from pointwest's hrd will email you when you passed/failed the exams in one week after the day you finished them.

ok lang na may mga blank ka sa mga tanong for as long as marami ka namang correct answers. the same goes with the svi exams.

some people sa thread ng pointwest mismo say na mas matagal ka raw mako-contact kung pasado ka. but don't count on it too much kasi it's inaccurate.

habang naghihintay ka ng tawag/email from pointwest, mag apply ka agad sa svi at cpi kasi pare-pareho lang sila ng mga exams. ang kaibahan lang sa cpi, hindi right minus wrong doon.

[.::guapito::.]

i think i failed kasi wala pa rin e huhuhu

[Emongski]

try mo na doon sa svi and cpi. kahit maalala mo lang yung ibang tanong sa pointwest, ok na yun kasi pag nag exam ka naman sa svi at cpi, hindi ka na gaanong mauubusan ng oras dahil naalala mo naman kung paano sagutan yung iba..

[Emongski]

@ guapito:

off topic: nasabi mo na may programming exam sa safeway. how come? programmer trainee rin ba inapplyan mo?

may i ask another question if you don't mind: ano kayang programming language ang exam doon?

[Mr_Lei]

good day! :)

guys, whats the best way mag apply sa pointwest?
I have tried applying through jobstreet and jobsdb, its already more than a week pero until now wala pa rin reply. thanks

[AnneNonymous]

^ I tried applying online din po, nakareceive agad ako ng call within the day. Maybe try to email again your resume to them.

[freakinmigs]

send ur resume to human.resource@pointwest.com.ph
put the position ur applying for at the subject part.

[Mr_Lei]

Thanks sa email ad bro and sa info... *okay*

[nyi_nyi]

hi...sked ko po ng exam sa SVI tommorow. anu po ba scope ng exam? then after po ba nun interview agad?

[GOLDEN_BOY]

guys, alam nyo ba kung kailan ang nxt batch training sa CPI? someone pls tell me.

[Stridum]

Try this sequence:

Azeus > Poinwest > SVI > CPI

Suggestion lang, pero mas maganda kung mag-exam ka sa lahat tsaka ka mag-decide. Mahirap mag-decide ng hindi ka pa pumapasa, nakaka-frustrate kapag bumagsak ka.

[pagie]

hahaha! korek ka dyan. marami dyan kung makapamili ng kumpanya, tas di namannakakalusot sa exam. Me thread din dito tungkol sa discrimination/biases ng companies sa skul ng applicants, maganda ring i-consider ng mga fresh grad yun. :)
..para di rin kayo masyado ma-frustrate sa negative results ng application niyo.
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56521&page=5

[latte]

maiba ako, pano pumunta ng SVI from alabang?

[ScrappYCocco]

the best ang exam na na-experience ko sa pointwest, imagine 1st part ng question dami ko agad blank kc d ko namalayan yung time limit sobrang bilis,ang time limit kc nun is 12 mins, so tumitingin ako sa orasan nila feel confident pero mya mya pumasok agad yung examiner ngtataka ako sobrang bilis talaga pati mga katabi ko nagulat din, yun pala yung tiningnan ko yung orasan sa labas eh oras pala sa US yun and yung ibang ksabay ko nag exam nag walk out na d na tinapos ang exam kaya 2 nlang kami nagtuloy kahit alam ko na mukang failed nako hehehehe

[ScrappYCocco]

but ang masasabi ko sa thread na ito, for those who would like to take a challenging exam try nyo po sa pointwest time pressure talaga ang kalaban mo dun and yung last part na right minus wrong, i dont know kung nag aaccept pa *** ng mga nakapag exam na nagfailed(share ur idea's naman) pero ako gusto ko parin mgtry mg exam sa pointwest

[rayv]

yep i failed on the 1st try... failed din *** 2nd try (feeling ko medyo mas maganda naging performance ko dito but nonetheless failed)....

In my opinion, try and try until you die dito... basta ipasa mo lang ule application mo sa kanila at tatawagan ka pa rin nila for the exam... syempre medyo mahiya ka naman sa HR, tagalan mo ng kaunti *** palugit between your application (sapat na siguro 2 months waiting period)... para di ka naman masyado makilala ng HR, baka sabihan ka na ng: "Uy suki, musta? e-exam ka nanaman?"

hehehe.... :D

[cybersofter]

question lang po...

kung nag-fail sa exam sa pointwest, ilang months ba po bago ka payagang mag-reapply. nag-try kasi ako dun last july kaso failed.

[pagie]

Maluwag ang HR dyan... usually dapat at least 6mos.

[xpact83]

to emongski ----
it is just natural if someone fails the entrance exam on a certain company he tends to hate that company...

just face it!!!!! your grade is also a factor in applying for a job......
so it really hurts ouch!!!!
hehehehe it hurts.....

[ScrappYCocco]

yep i failed on the 1st try... failed din *** 2nd try (feeling ko medyo mas maganda naging performance ko dito but nonetheless failed)....

In my opinion, try and try until you die dito... basta ipasa mo lang ule application mo sa kanila at tatawagan ka pa rin nila for the exam... syempre medyo mahiya ka naman sa HR, tagalan mo ng kaunti *** palugit between your application (sapat na siguro 2 months waiting period)... para di ka naman masyado makilala ng HR, baka sabihan ka na ng: "Uy suki, musta? e-exam ka nanaman?"

hehehe.... :D

Great Advice.,,,,,,,,, ichecheck ko yan!

[Tadlac_ASI]

Morning!
may email add po ba kayo ng (Azeus > Poinwest > SVI > CPI)
na pwedeng pasahan ng cv
thanks

[freakinmigs]

for Pointwest, send it to human.resource@pointwest.com.ph

[wizzle_19]

sa pointwestba pareho lang ng exam katulad sa SVI?

[basti03]

matanong ko *** po san po yng cpi...??anu po meaning cpi..??medyo out of topic pero curious *** po.. salamat

[Apolpay]

good pm.

i have requirment. i'm looking for 4 programmers trainee

here's my requirement;

Systems development using ASP.NET, VB.NET, MS SQL Scripting, MS Reporting Services, ASP

Basic Requirements:

College graduate, preferably Computer Science, or any Computer-related or business degree, with or without work experience
PROFICIENCY in ASP.NET, VB.NET, MS SQL Scripting
Must undergo and pass 4-hour aptitude exam and technical exam on ASP.NET 2.0, MS SQL 2005
College honor graduates need not undergo aptitude exam and technical exam but must pass interview.

Compensation: 18k
plus PERFORMANCE INCENTIVES, GROCERY ALLOWANCE, MEDICINE ALLOWANCE, MEDICAL AND DENTAL COVERAGE, and more

LOCATION : Ortigas

if interested please email me your resume : loticzon@yahoo.com

[hireme!!!]

guys i really need your advice. im a career shifter and i want to be a programmer.. but sad to say my knowledge in computer stuff is plain basic but i am a fast learner and my i.q is above ave.. hehe. im just saying this because i have high hopes in becoming a programmer. question *** guys, is it ok na magtake muna ako ng short course about programming before magprogrammer trainee? what's the difference po ba betwee. developer and tester? help me guys! thanks!

[pagie]

anu ba kurso mo?
developer = gumagawa ng program, gaya ng website.
tester = (mostly blackbox) nagte-test ng ginawang website. :) nagdo-ducument ng findings gaya ng errors at bugs.

[gb25]

ok ba talaga ang Azeus kasi...

chinese company siya, and currently, asa ganung company ako and hindi maganda. walang growth, may discrimination and yung kalahi lang nila ang may future. hehehehe. i'm not trying to bash them ha kasi they're good people naman, yun nga lang, napakalimited ng growth mo if you're working with them.. based on what i am experiencing now

aww. mejo umiilag ako sa ganyan. :depressed: anyways, mejo matunog ang name ng Azeus. try ko na rin dito mag-apply.

[cris_joshgen8]

anyone here who knows the e-mail add where you can send resume to SVI? their website doesn't indicate it. thanks, God bless

[Emongski]

to emongski ----
it is just natural if someone fails the entrance exam on a certain company he tends to hate that company...

just face it!!!!! your grade is also a factor in applying for a job......
so it really hurts ouch!!!!
hehehehe it hurts.....

@xpact83:
base nalang sa inconsistent na post mo (buti nalang pinilit kong intindihin ito kasi hindi ko alam kung saan tutungo ang grammar mo nung una kong nabasa ito) , pinagtitripan mo ba ako???

just face it!!!!! your grade is also a factor in applying for a job......
so it really hurts ouch!!!!
hehehehe it hurts.....

hindi ko alam kung na offend ba kita noon in any way kaya kumakana ka ng ganyan.

basta ang alam ko, ang sarcastic ng dating ng post mo. kung ganyan karin ka sarcastic in real life, hindi ka magtatagal sa kumpanyang kinalalagyanan / kalalagyan mo.

oo masakit talaga, kung sa grades titignan ang isang aplikante at hindi sa wastong ugali at tamang asal. sinasabi ko sa iyo, walang kalalagyang pwesto ang matataas ang ere kundi sa inidoro.

hindi mo ako kilala para laitin mo ako nang ganyan in a public forum. kung ayaw mo ng gulo,

stay out of my way.

on topic:
first and foremost, i do not take things personal when i failed in being hired in any company. as a matter of fact, i took the exams from these three companies. i also failed in svi and pointwest. i passed in cpi however, it just so happens that the person who interviewed me did not like my records, and that's what i tried to say moments ago (see the cpi vs svi thread -> nandito yata yun as far as i can recall). again, i did not take all those matters personally.

as for the (confidential) information about cpi, i heard it from one of my fellow applicants who also passed the exams. "what the heck??? WHY did you do that??? sana ako nalang pala ang natanggap kung ganun." then, he gave me the details. he, including another girl did not sign the contract, while another one also passed but did not go on to receive his contract also because of the same reasons.

hindi ko nalang sana na i open up sa inyong lahat ang mga tungkol doon in the first place. and for that, i'm really sorry. i know that there are a lot of cpi employees also reading this thread and i deeply apologize to you with regards to some of the comments that i had already posted in this thread. for me to stay out of trouble, and for you to have the same number of applicants everyday, i will keep the (confidential) information only to myself.

[The Prodigy]

@ Emongski

Try reading the CPI thread. That dude keeps on bugging about the salary when he is applying for an entry level in the first place. Buti na lang Pagie does not get irritated. Truth be told, it's pretty annoying.

[Kent_210]

I worked in Pointwest (my first job actually) as a Software Test Engineer. Here's what happened then.

I took their exam na parang pang Harvard entrance exam yata yun, I really expected na di ko maipapasa ang exam. But surprisingly, tinawagan ako ng HR to schedule my interview. During the interview, I am so confident...I answer every questions promptly. To the extend na nag kukwentuhan na lang kami. To cut the story short, they offered me the post. Tha salary: Php14000 monthly salary + Php150 per day night differental, plus allowed pa kaming mag OT with pay. Yun nga lang, contractual yung job. Only until we finished a certain project. OK naman yung work, may training period for almost a month. When the contract ended, they ask me to took again the exam. I said why?? Then they explained that I wasn't able to passed the exam the first time I took it. Required daw na ipasa ko yung exam for my regularization. But then I realized to leave the company instead. Halatang takot ako sa exam eh hehehe!

Pano ba naman, graduate ako ng BSEE, feeling ko underdog ako sa IT hehe.

Pero saludo ako sa Pointwest. Highly recommended siya if you're an IT. Yung mga ka-batch ko nun na nag stay, palagi na silang pinapadala sa US :)

[Emongski]

@ The Prodigy:

alam mo, mabuti nalang at tumingin ulit ako sa thread na ito (matagal na kasi akong hindi tumitingin dito) kasi kung hindi, i will never have the chance to defend myself from a terrible attack.

pabayaan nalang natin sya my friend. at least, i had already stated my point just awhile ago. nasa sa kanya na yun if he/she wants a challenge. ;)

@ Kent_210:

sayang naman pare at hindi ka nakapag exam uli sa pointwest. ako nga, hanggang pangarap nalang na makapag work doon. magtatanong lang po: kailan ka na hire doon? na curious kasi ako sa kwento mo.

[abzmeister]

anyone here who knows the e-mail add where you can send resume to SVI? their website doesn't indicate it. thanks, God bless

nakapag exam na ako ** 1 tym but it was like a year ago...
d q nalaman if nakapasa me kasi i was already accepted as a BPO employee in accenture by that tym.

anywayz, pede naman po ang walk-in dun kasi nagwalk-in lang me nung tym n ayun... SVI is located at 6F JMT bldg, ADB Ave, ortigas center, pasig city juz in front of the Podium.

[pagie]

@ Emongski

Try reading the CPI thread. That dude keeps on bugging about the salary when he is applying for an entry level in the first place. Buti na lang Pagie does not get irritated. Truth be told, it's pretty annoying.

hehehe... I can manage my temper. :)

[xpact83]

I will stick to what I have said factor talaga ang grades sa pag aaply ng job.

But like what pagie said… it will still depend on how you will reason out sa interview

Sorry for being rude…



but I think naging unfair ka sa mga sinabi mo… you already concluded na true yung sinabi sayo ng dalawang applicants..

and what make it worst is nagsabi ka pa na may alam ka at hindi mo sasabihin you are just making a big question mark on the heads of pexers na makakabasa ng post mo.


Isn’t that unfair?

[Kent_210]

@ Kent_210:

sayang naman pare at hindi ka nakapag exam uli sa pointwest. ako nga, hanggang pangarap nalang na makapag work doon. magtatanong lang po: kailan ka na hire doon? na curious kasi ako sa kwento mo.

Na hire ako last January 2004 (tagal na no?:D) That was the time na almost start up pa lang ang Pointwest. Most of my colleagues were from SVI din (na-pirate yata).

Di na ako nagtake ng exam ulit kasi I never imagine myself working in an IT industry (na in a way, pinagsisihan kong umalis knowing how booming the IT jobs nowadays). Instead nag apply ako sa ibang industry na medyo fit ang course na tinapos ko.

Take note, kahit ganun kahirap ang exam, di sila basta basta nagbe-base sa exam. Konti lang kasi ang pumapasa. Dami kong kasabay nun na nahired at naging colleagues ko. Di din pala sila lahat nakapasa ng exam. Now, if they call you for an interview, try to impress them and be confident. Mas nagbe-base sila sa interview performance ng applicant.

[citan]

@emongski
yes factor talaga yung grades sa pag-aapply kung FRESH GRAD ka. pero balewala na yun kung may experience ka. kaya kung hindi maganda yung TOR mo, bumawi ka sa interview. kailangan maganda yung impression nila sa yo. don't be too serious, magpatawa ka ng konti (yun yung technique ko nung nag-apply ako hindi lang sa CPI,pati sa ibang companies), at wag kang kabahan. at syempre, SMILE. pag medyo bad mood yung nag interview at poker face ka lang, dali ka. pero kung naka smile ka, gaganahan sya.

kung titignan yung mga posts mo, i believe wala kang problema sa grammar. *okay* nai apply mo ba to nung conversation nyo sa interview? confident ka ba habang kinakausap o medyo nag stutter ka? ako rin naman may mga bagsak pero na defend ko naman at isa lang ang dahilan na isinagot ko nung interview. hindi paiba-iba (kesyo terror yung prof ko sa subject na to, kulang kasi oras na binigay sa min, etc.) *tip (read killer resumes and acing the job interview for new graduates by abcxyz. laking tulong rin sa kin yun.)

yung dating kasi ng post mo, parang sinasabi mo na "i got an almost perfect score sa exam, tapos di nila ako kinuha dahil sa grades ko?! bahala sila! you're such a loser yaya!" parang ganun..kaya nayabangan si xpact. kung sa kin, ok lang. pero para sa iba, hindi. ingat ka, baka sumunod ka sa yapak ni abulugadventure (puro reklamo, kulang sa gawa, dami na ngang nagpayo sa kanya) hehe.. :eek:

@xpact83
magtrabaho ka!! bwehehe..ano wala pa ring sumasagot sa mga kontak dun sa website?

[xpact83]

@citan

wala pa .... na ban na yata *** site eh.. tiningnan ko kahapon iba na *** lumalabas na website.... heheh malas talaga...

[xpact83]

bat wala pang sagot si emongski ?

[pagie]

bat mo hinahanap?

@citan
Salamat sa northpark blowout niyo. :)

[xpact83]

kaylan sila nag blow out?

[pagie]

di mo lam? niyaya pa nga kita dun sa page 8 ng super thread na ginawa mo eh, yung minu-minuto me royal rumble. :)

[xpact83]

hehe ang gugulo ng mga tao dun.. pasikat kasi si corinthian eh...

pagie sa career mo ba ngayon you can say na dyan kana sa present job mo until mag retire ka...... o still maghahanap ka pa ng higher salary.... hehe

[pagie]

secret... maraming nagpe-pex dito. :)

[xpact83]

cge give me nalang an estimate kung magkano sal mo sa present job mo..... huwag ka sana makulitan hehe

[citan]

@pagie
walang anuman idol. ako yung beerday boy. d ako nagpakilala nun para suspense wehehe. sa wakas nakita na namin ang alamat na sinasabi ni jao hahaha.

@xpact
mali yung pagtype mo, dapat www.********.ph

[pagie]

Tumuloy kami sa antakya sa filinvest, nagma-magic habang nag-iinuman. hehehe... :)
Nandun ka pa ba nun? Saka wag alamat, parang matanda ang dating eh.:)

[xpact83]

pagie anu magkano na suweldo mo ngayon ilang percent ang tinaas compared dati sa cpi? sagutin mo naman hehe

citan wala palang .com .ph kagad?

[xpact83]

antagal naman mag post ni emongski nag aaply yata...

[citan]

@pagie
wala na ko nun.sumibat na agad ako e. ako *** katabi mo sa northpark. balita ko nga nagsayaw pa kayo e tapos magic hahaha. imortal ka raw sabi ni jao lol.

@xpact
hindi (dot)com yun. (dot)ph. babalik na rin si nono sa qs a...sana ako hindi hehe.

[pagie]

jao? jao talaga tawag niyo kay tisoy huh?! bakit di na lang baluga? hehehe... :)

Oo nga, lam ko wala ka na nun, kasi naitanong kita sa kanila eh. :)

Kapag maraming pinadala ang CPI sa mapfre tas me pinabalik, malamang siya lang yun, so malamang stay ka na talaga dyan.

[xpact83]

@citan

bakit sya babalik? sana bumalik ka din hehe.. para may pizza

[citan]

tapos na kasi project ng boss nya sa baba kaya wala na mapagawa. mabilis rin kasi sya gumawa. tsaka sabi rin ni boss na magbabawas na sila ng programmer next year kaya nanganganib din ako hehe..

[franz15]

i was employed by svi as a programmer trainee 1.5 years ago... we were trained to be IBM Mainframe programmers kaya COBOL, CICS, DB2, JCL ang naturo sa amin... pero along the way when we were deployed na sa respective projects, me mga training pa rin like SAS etc. na pinaattend sa amin... ok naman sa svi in terms of entry level salary and tama *** sinabi nung iba dito... medyo kulang lang talaga sa add-on benefits kasi the usual government subsidized benefits lang talaga ang nabibigay sa amin... pero kung career growth at work environment lang din naman, oks na oks sa svi basta sa magandang project ka napunta... i was floored in one of the 2 major accounts sa svi which uses mainframe so i think swerte na rin ako dun... ang kapalit lang nun eh 2 year bond (i heard 3 years na daw *****) sa company pero sandali lang din naman un... marami rin dun ang hindi na tinatapos ang bond at binabayaran na lang coz once you think na well equipped ka na with proper knowledge na kelangan mo to apply sa ibang company, magaganda talaga makukuha mong offer... btw, hindi na programmer trainee ang tawag sa entry level position sa svi, management trainee na pero tuturuan pa rin sa programming... di na kasi sila sure kung madedeploy ka sa programmer position after the training coz *** previous batches eh nagkaroon ng issue kasi di sila nadeploy sa programming position so nag-play safe ang company kaya mangement trainee na ang kinukuha nila... so swertehan lang talaga kung mafloor ka as programmer after the training... =)

[meebo]

Ok ba ang programmer trainee sa Blast Asia? :rolleyes:

[pagie]

blastasia thread : http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?p=29360826

[heechulisnotgay]

so magkano na sweldo ngayon ng entry level software developer sa mga companies na to?

[heechulisnotgay]

sabi saken sa interview kanina, jan daw training ng lahat. tapos un nga. 250k for 3 years pa din *** bond. tapos *** mga trainees, dun papasok sa office nila near up.

[dark^horse]

hi, career shifter ako, gusto ko mag apply as programmer trainee.
magkano pinaka mababang sahod na ibibigay nila?
*** exam more on programming na agad? di ko na maalala alam ko sa programming 3 years na kasi ako ngwork kaso sa call center. hehe
any advise po? salamat.

[ubechoco2009]

^ kumusta po ang java sa CPI? are there projects exclusively for java developers?

[gb25]

sabi saken sa interview kanina, jan daw training ng lahat. tapos un nga. 250k for 3 years pa din *** bond. tapos *** mga trainees, dun papasok sa office nila near up.

anong company po yan?

hays.. sa CPI wala daw hindi pa daw sure kung kelan ang training.. wala daw this year and next year daw hindi pa sure kung magkakaron and kung kelang month. :( wala daw kasi pumapasok na projects sa kanila ngayon.

[ubechoco2009]

anong company po yan?

hays.. sa CPI wala daw hindi pa daw sure kung kelan ang training.. wala daw this year and next year daw hindi pa sure kung magkakaron and kung kelang month. :( wala daw kasi pumapasok na projects sa kanila ngayon.

hays, im looking forward to start my career as software developer (java) in cpi, sheesh.

[GOLDEN_BOY]

anong company po yan?

hays.. sa CPI wala daw hindi pa daw sure kung kelan ang training.. wala daw this year and next year daw hindi pa sure kung magkakaron and kung kelang month. :( wala daw kasi pumapasok na projects sa kanila ngayon.

may i know kung saan galing ang impormasyon na iyan? nag-inquire ka sa cpi?

[gb25]

may i know kung saan galing ang impormasyon na iyan? nag-inquire ka sa cpi?

kay ma'am jho po.. i was waiting for the schedule of my final interview --i had it rescheduled kasi, tas ang tagal ko masched.. finally after almost a month (i guess? i lost count of the days.) she called me yesterday and told me the bad news.

[gb25]

hays, im looking forward to start my career as software developer (java) in cpi, sheesh.

nag-exam ka rin ba dun? ako nga rin e.... kakapanghinayang..

[GOLDEN_BOY]

ganun ba? aang bad naman ng news na yyan. job offer nalang ang hinihintay ko sa cpi eh. gusto ko pa naman ang oracle. haay..

[baskog26]

affected na din yata ang CPI sa recession. too bad for me, coz i reli luk forward applying sa CPI early next year. btw, sa mga waiting for JO at for final interview, dont lose hope. at good luck sa ating lahat ne empleyado next year.

[gb25]

ganun ba? aang bad naman ng news na yyan. job offer nalang ang hinihintay ko sa cpi eh. gusto ko pa naman ang oracle. haay..

sayang naman.. try mo pa rin confirm kay ms. jho..

[gb25]

affected na din yata ang CPI sa recession. too bad for me, coz i reli luk forward applying sa CPI early next year. btw, sa mga waiting for JO at for final interview, dont lose hope. at good luck sa ating lahat ne empleyado next year.

:( thanks. good luck sating lahat

[GOLDEN_BOY]

i called ms jho and she said wala pa siguradong date for next training. not sure siya sa january but one thing for sure is im shortlisted na for next programmer trainee position. so sa lahat na naghihintay, relax lang muna. everything that happen has its own reason.

[gb25]

^ buti ka pa. me wala pang final interview. waaaah hays. gusto ko rin sa CPI. :(

[naia]

^^ for final interview na rin ako. sabi ni ms jho eh parang formality lang daw yun...but i haven't called her to ask if tuloy sa january or hindi. its good to know naman na hindi sila hire ng hire tapos wala palang naghihintay na project.

[gb25]

^ yea. tsaka sila walang JO kaagad para hindi matatali yung applicant kung gusto nya pa magtry sa ibang companies..

[heechulisnotgay]

start from scratch kaya yung training sa pointwest? wala kasi ako kaalam alam sa programming e hehe

[ubechoco2009]

^ you should read online tutorials by now, kahit basic programming concepts: arithmetic, types, I/O, conditionals, loops. then advanced: functions, object oriented programming. para naman hindi ka masyadong ma-OP. hehe. hanap ka sa google madami, use this keywords: basic+programming+languge+concepts. or kung ayaw mo naman ng online tutorials, bumili ka ng books sa national, meron dung mga low priced editions for c++ ang java. :D

[heechulisnotgay]

onga e. simulan ko na lang magbasa pag sure na. hehe. baka maudlot pa e

[xpact83]

basta dudes just wait kung para sayo talaga ang isang bagay...... mapupunta at mapupunta parin sayo kahit anung mangyari ....

[ubechoco2009]

@heechulisnotgay

dude, patience is a virtue but sometimes it's a torture. do the hustle while you wait. at saka lahat ng sa tingin mo na para sa'** ay para sa'** talaga, that's a fact. just do the best and when you do the best, make the right decisions. yun. :D

[heechulisnotgay]

cge. simulan ko na. FTW!

[ubechoco2009]

.................................

[bryanwizard]

ubechoco *** pala yan pre...

[bizbryan]

Help nmn jan..di naman po sa pagmamayabang. Napasa ko nmn ang exam sa cpi at radix.. sa palagay ko sa interview lang talaga ako bumabagsak. may training ba para maipasa ang interview. fresh grad kasi ako, saka ece. kabado ba minsan.

[ubechoco2009]

^ heto punta ka sa thread na ito, makakatulong yan. hindi mo na kailangang magbayad ng training, may HR nang tutulong sayo.
http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82624

[heechulisnotgay]

sabi saken sa pointwest sa jan na lang daw tatawag. naku. qa saka java lang daw ang may available training schedules for now e.

[bizbryan]

ano po ba ginagawa ng software engineer compare sa proogrammer? and ano mas interesting sa dalawa? saka mas high ang salary?...

[ubechoco2009]

^ programmer = coding
software engineer = systems analysis, coding, feasibility, coding, design, testing, in short all areas of software development.

[Rob254]

Presently, for how long is the bond in SVI? Is it 2 yrs or 3 yrs? How about in CPI and pointwest? Thanks!

[ubechoco2009]

pointwest 3 years daw

[Rob254]

pointwest 3 years daw

thanks! CPI pala is 2 years, how about SVI kaya?

From what I read 3 years daw sa SVI before. Presently, 3 years pa rin kaya? anyone who's currently working at SVI, thanks in advance!:)

[g shock]

hello pexers.

well, the exam is kinda very hard. just took it. i wonder if they do advise you if you made it.

how long would it take before you know that you made it as a management trainee?

this looks like a nice company and mr. hr was very friendly. i really hope i make it here.

thanks in advance.

[niKuKi]

Hi! When did you take your exam at SVI? Have you gotten the results already?

[g shock]

@niKuKi :
first thing monday. so far wala pa results. =( sigh. sayang naman kung di ako makapasok dito.


@SVI employees :
i need your advice. would it be appropriate for me to call back and ask mr. hr?

the test was online. do you think they would be done with checking the exams by now?

thanks po. hope somebody can give me advice on this.



Hi! When did you take your exam at SVI? Have you gotten the results already?

[niKuKi]

@niKuKi :
first thing monday. so far wala pa results. =( sigh. sayang naman kung di ako makapasok dito.


A. Pareho tayo, nung Monday din ako nagexam dito sa SVI. Good luck sa atin, maging patient lang muna tayo. Update mo ko pag may balita ka na. :)

[g shock]

oo. sana pareho tayong palarin.

sige, magpalitan tayo ng updates pag may balita na ako.

God bless.

@SVI pipol :

hope you can advise us on this one.

A. Pareho tayo, nung Monday din ako nagexam dito sa SVI. Good luck sa atin, maging patient lang muna tayo. Update mo ko pag may balita ka na. :)

[niKuKi]

oo. sana pareho tayong palarin.

sige, magpalitan tayo ng updates pag may balita na ako.

God bless.


Sana nga 'no. :) Sige, I'll let you know. Baka tumawag ako mamayang hapon. Online ka lang ba buong araw? I-update kita mamaya.

[dl08]

Hi. Just wanna ask, allowed po ba ang walk-in sa Pointwest and SVI.? Then, kapag nag-walkin ako, sabak agad ba sa exam?

Salamat po. :)

[Ravenheart]

Dunno po eh. Maganda ba Programmer Trainee position dito?

[iatta]

nag-apply ako sa management trainee post ng SVI sa jobsdb. anong difference nun sa programmer trainee?

exam ko na sa friday. any tips?

[franz15]

nag-apply ako sa management trainee post ng SVI sa jobsdb. anong difference nun sa programmer trainee?

exam ko na sa friday. any tips?

Hiring pala svi ngayon hehe. Wala naman masyadong pagkakaiba, sa pangalan lang. Basically, you will be trained in programming din. Though, you are not assured that you will be assigned a programmer post. Kaya napalitan ang name na programmer trainee before dahil nagkaroon ng issue sa isang batch before where only few ex-trainees were given programmer posts. Ang iba napunta sa IT helpdesk, BPO and other SVI projects (not all programming-related). Kaya ayun mass resignation ang buong batchat on-going pa ang kaso sa korte. Though mas malaki ang chance ngayon na maassign as programmer after the training coz they got new projects (e.g. Unilever). Training would probably be mainframe, java, or rpg. Just be prepared lang din to be assigned to onsite projects meaning not in the main office in Ortigas. Compensation for entry level is competitive though I think they are lacking in benefits.

[silver_lining]

thanks! CPI pala is 2 years, how about SVI kaya?

From what I read 3 years daw sa SVI before. Presently, 3 years pa rin kaya? anyone who's currently working at SVI, thanks in advance!:)

Di pa 'ko SVI employee, pero sabi sa phone interview ko with SVI for the management trainee position 2 years daw.

[geocentric]

gud pm po.

balak ko sanang magaaply din dito sa cpi para sa programmer trainee positions nila.

kailangan bang abangan muna kung kelan ang next schedule nila for training para ma-sked agad for examination? or kahit kailang pwede mag-aaply? kung saka-sakali po ba kelan pala next batch of training nila para sa java or oracle?

thnaks po sa tulong.

[simon03]

@geocentric.


I think they will allow you to take their exam kahit n wala pang next schedule for the training. What i know is that continuous parin ang hiring nla. This coming ausgust ata may training n and this will be their 3rd training for this year. Hope this helps you.