Answering ""HOW MUCH IS YOUR EXPECTED SALARY?""

[ScrappYCocco]

hi peeps especially hr's,please share ur idea about answering this kind of question while applying because one company asked me ""why do you want to lower your expected salary than to your previous job?"" but though i answered it very carefully and reasonable naman.

My question is, is that will totally affect the actual salary that they will offer? assuming that the applicant is w/ less than one year exp.

Thanks:)

[haripoter]

HOW MUCH IS YOUR EXPECTED SALARY?

How much do you offer to the applicant who is qualified for the said position?

^ yan lagi sagot ko sa kanila e... tanong din... hehe... effective naman... :D

bakit mo naman kasi nilower yung expectation mo? dapat kasi lakihan mo lagi hehe :)

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ewan ko kung totoo to... kung sino raw ang unang magbigay ng figures ay siyang talo sa salary negotiation... hehe...

^ correct me if i'm wrong mga peeps! *okay*

[pagie]

Korek!
Dagdag ko lang... hindi naman laging ganun... kailangan lang alam mo kung pano i-handle. pero dapat, hanggat maaari, sa closing interview mo na to banggitin. maraming mababasa sa internet regarding salary negotiation.
Nagkamali na rin ako dito, o sabihin nating masyadong magaling sa nego ang HR. Hindi na lang ako tumuloy sa company na yun.

In general, tama ang sagot mo.. kailangan i-delay ang pagbibigay ng figure on expected salary. Patunayan mo muna sa kanila na ikaw ang most qualified candidate para mas madali na sa salary nego.

[haripoter]

The Four Bargaining Factors

Salary negotiations can be a very delicate matter. However, the more you know going in, the more influence you can exert when the time comes. Take the time to research your salary carefully and determine where you stand on these four bargaining points:

1. Know the relative worth for your position in the marketplace.

2. Clarify what qualifies you to make more than average and more than the employer’s initial offer.

3. Determine your target salary and benefits.

4. Forecast how long you are willing to wait until the negotiation resolves in your favor.

Excerpt from: FEARLESS
INTERVIEWING by Marky Stein Page 129-130

The Rules of Open-Door Negotiating

There are several rules to observe in the game of open-door
negotiating if you want to play it well:

• Try to postpone the salary discussion until a job offer has
been made or until you are in a second interview.

• Do not be the first one to mention an exact amount of
money, no matter how many ways the interviewer tries to
get you to inform him or her of what you earned or what
you wish to earn in the future.

• Speak in terms of ranges of salary rather than using
exact figures.

• Postpone saying no to an offer until you are sure you
have all the information.

• Postpone saying yes to an offer until you are sure you
have all the information.

• Postpone, postpone, postpone. There is no reason to
rush a salary discussion, especially when that discussion
could add 15 to 20 percent to your earnings. Be patient.

Finally, remember that your base pay is not the only thing you’re negotiating
for. You’re actually negotiating for a full compensation
package that may include a sign-on bonus, extra benefits and
perks, and many other features ....

Excerpt from: FEARLESS
INTERVIEWING by Marky Stein Page 134-135

^ although some of these are not applicable in reality, it might give you the idea how to do it... hehe...

Goodluck! *okay*

[ScrappYCocco]

sowee late reply

thanks po sa mga advise

actually mejo worried ako kc some company (like my previous employer) mas mataas pa to my expected salary ang pinirmahan kong salary offer nila so i expect na ganun din ** sa company na inaplyan ko kaya lang pansin ko parang piniga nila ako to answer that question

[chocoLatte12]

hehe.. share ko lang how i compute for it..

if you are not a fresh grad, and you are being asked about this, ganito daw *** computation nung based from a former officemate

per month
base salary + average OT + bonuses + 13 month pay + XXXX = expected salary

*XXXX - pwede nyo ito idagdag based on your preference.. reasons for such is experience etc..

[sap_titan]

is it ok to retract in the job offer interview the expected salary that you have stated in your initial interview?

[tokyo_mayor]

The key to salary negotiation is knowing your own market value. Research. How much your skill/talent + experience is paid on average all else being equal. Then you add your "premium" - your value - how much you are worth more(less?) than the average because there is no such things as a real average skill. Skill is an abstract concept but salary is not. If you can communicate your value to the prospective employer and if your prospective employer agrees then you have done a good job. Please note that the market also have generous and stingy employers. The problem with the Philippine job market (assuming we are talking about the local scene) is that there are more job seekers than there are jobs so the key really is in communicating that you have higher value than the others, not lower.

[aeonblaire]

Eh pano kung, nung pumunta ng exam, may pina-fill-up na form, at may area dun kung san ilalagay ang expected salary?

[tigress7]

Leave it blank. Haha. Fresh grad ako, I leave the "expected salary" blank. Kasi usually pag fresh grad, fixed ang salary at hindi negotiable. Anyway, kung may experience ka na, huwag mo muna isulat ang expected salary mo. Same as pag tinanong ka ng HR sa intial interview huwag mo muna sagutin as much as possible. Sa closing interview na like what pagie said.

[aeonblaire]

Naku lagot! Dun sa first company na nag-interview sa kin, initial interview pa lang, tinanong na ako ng expected salary, tapos sinagot ko naman!

Dun sa second company naman, nailagay ko sa form yung expected salary ko!

:confused::confused::confused:

Oh well, at least I had the opportunity of coming to their offices for a second time.

[LodRose]

wala namang masama kung sasabihin mo agad - basta make sure hindi naman outrageous un figure na nilagay mo.

wag mo na isipin na kesyo ganito ganyan un mga kasabay mong offer or pinanggalingan ek ek. complete your research first to make sure tama nga un expected figure mo.

hinihingi yan at the early stage ng recruitment kasi pag may headcount request, siyempre may budget or range yan ng kayang ibigay ng company for you. forecasted na yan for the year eh. ideally di dapat sumabog.

pag nagha-hire ako, kinukulit ko talaga agad yang expected salary. minsan nga ang dating tuloy e "magkano ka ba?" pero siyempre depende na yan sa ranking mo sa candidate stack.

kung magaling naman talaga ikaw kahit mataas ang sinabi mo sa range namin ipaglalaban kita at gagawan namin ng paraan.

basta honest assessment ang basis ng expected salary mo.

para na rin di masayang oras mo at oras ko para pahabain pa kunwari ang negotiation at sleepless nights for both parties, magkaalaman na agad kung ano mas mahalaga, skills/potential mo or budget/pool of candidates namin, diba?

now dun sa mga salary inarte players, i can smell you from a mile away kaya naman di ko na kayo tinawagan anoh ehehe - bato bato sa langit tamaan cute. (ambisyoso ka, build your credentials muna before ka magdemand ng ganyan kalaki, hmph! :P)

good luck na lang sa nag-iisip ukol sa bagay na ito!

[bankereconomist]

wala naman masama kung sabihin mo lalo na kung alam mo naman ang nature ng work na papasukan mo at kung ano ang market value mo.

Ang first job ko sa Pinas ang second ko sa abraod, nung nasa abroad ako walang takot kong sinasabi na ang expected basic salary ko ay 1000USD + allowances.

[pagie]

Mahirap ibenta o ialok ng sanlibo ang isang platitong pagkain na di pa subok ang lasa.. Baka tanggihan ka agad. Para sa akin, ilalatag ko muna ang credentials ko, impress the hiring manager.. at kapag ikaw na ang ideal candidate nila, wala na halos problema sa presyo.

Ibang usapin pa kung me salary cap ang company. So isa rin sa dapat tingnan ay kung may problema ba sa budget ng company.

[japspt]

dont give a figure first. just say you of course expect one that would be commensurate to the job description and your job experience, then ask their offer, para sila unang mamigay ng amount. it would be better if beforehand you already have more or less an idea of the ranges of salary the company offers (though of course, you shouldn't blurt this out). as long as you dont give outrageous amounts, this shouldn't be a problem.

[japspt]

^P.S. In cases na *** ang paunahin ng amount, then just be honest. Just be sure na your amount is reasonable. After all, di ka naman ***** mag-apply somewhere na alam mo nang me reputation na kuripot.

[nasingpetak]

paano pag hindi expected salary ang tanong? paano pag what is your current salary? tpos don na nila naseoffer?

[grimal123]

panu kung sinabe "give me a figure about your expected salary?" anung sagot nyo?

ang sinagot ko " as long as the salary can support my everyday needs like fare and food im happy with that salary"

mali siguro yung sinagot ko kaya after ng interview ang sabe we will call you

ano ba dapat ang isasagot dito?

[c0Rinthian]

panu kung sinabe "give me a figure about your expected salary?" anung sagot nyo?

ang sinagot ko " as long as the salary can support my everyday needs like fare and food im happy with that salary"

mali siguro yung sinagot ko kaya after ng interview ang sabe we will call you

ano ba dapat ang isasagot dito?

baka mukha ka kasing malakas kumain.... at tipiong nagta-taxi araw-araw :glee: j/k

pero seriously, you should have done your homework and researched the market rate of the position you were interviewed for.

[grimal123]

haha hindi naman lol pero yun ang reality kailangan kaya suportahan ng salary mo yung pamasahe at pagkain mo araw araw kundi abono ka pa ang tanong nya kasi give me a figure eh pwede ko ba sabihin i dont know?

[c0Rinthian]

haha hindi naman lol pero yun ang reality kailangan kaya suportahan ng salary mo yung pamasahe at pagkain mo araw araw kundi abono ka pa ang tanong nya kasi give me a figure eh pwede ko ba sabihin i dont know?

nope... it shows na ignorant ka sa value mo, at sa market rate ng posisyon na pinapasukan mo (in short- you did not do your homework).

ang dangers kasi diyan sa vague na sagot- pwede kang kuriputin- o i-exploit (kung ogag ang nag-interview sa iyo at ogag ang kumpanyang pagtratrabahuan mo).

libre naman mag tanong sa kaibigan, or kaya dito (PM lang) para ma research ang current salary rates.

pwede ring pumunta sa DOLE para malaman ang minimum wage- worse-come-to-worse, google it (key words: phillipines <your position/job> salary- or something to that effect).

well.. ika nga, bago sumabak sa giyera- lagyan ng bala ang baril- kasi ala ka nang time gawin ito pagdating ng putukan :D

[grimal123]

ahh ganun pala yun thanks buti nalang may PEX at may c0Rinthian sa PEX.

ikaw ano ba sinasagot mo pag ganyan ang tanong sayo?

[c0Rinthian]

ahh ganun pala yun thanks buti nalang may PEX at may c0Rinthian sa PEX.

ikaw ano ba sinasagot mo pag ganyan ang tanong sayo?

anung sagot ko?... "depends on the total package and the scope of my responsibilities"

tapos yung offer nila- dapat better ang benefits, as well as yung basic- or at the very least- dapat may opportunity for advancement :)

ngayon, kung basic monthly salary ang pag-uusapan (na di pa kasama ang benefits and bonuses) I usually ask for +20% of my current (kung same ang role and responsibilities)- kung iba namang role ang ino-offer- tatanungin ko kung ano ang market rate... and add 20% doon :D hehehe

[japspt]

^nye. bakit naman i dont know, wala ka ba man lang ineexpect talaga? they're asking you kase they want to know "what you're worth." ***** naman you know the salary range of the position you're applying for so yun na lang sagutin mo.