ECE grads: Engineering or IT?

[mahOgany]

Mga ECE grads, feel free to post your opinions here.


Mas maganda bang mag stick at mag line sa profession mo, or mas magandang magshift nlng nang career into IT?



I am an ECE grad and I already have my license but im planning to venture into the IT world. Mas okay daw ang pay at madaming opportunities abroad.

Ano sa tingin nio?

[scream_benihime]

wow, this will be an interesting thread.

I'm also an ECE , I have tried working in a semicon company, but it doesn't fit my line of interest. Now, unemployed, i'm looking forward to a career in IT.

I want to hear the opinions of the veteran ECE's. hehehe

[mahOgany]

0o nga. Sana may mga veteran ECEs na nasa engineering and IT careers na magshare nang experience nila.

Okay pa b ang engineering industry *****?

[kenjutz]

walang pera sa telco!
im planning to shift career to IT, probably sa NOC which malapit sa course natin kaso mag-aaral pa ko cisco para competent.
pwede rin naman mag software engr. na lang kayo.:lol:

[REInvestor]

im currently taking up masters in electronics engg but i am still eyeing the semiconductor field as soon as i graduate (again) :rotflmao: hehe.. 3 years rin kc ako nagwork sa semicon so i guess that's where i will grow old. :bashful:

my bf is making good money in telecoms. ECE rin sya. expat out of the country. so i guess ok din to venture sa telecoms.

[mahOgany]

ang alam q din indemand ang telcom specially middle east. Kelangn m *** magadjust sa culture nila pero okay naman daw ang pay. Kenjutz san k b nagw0rk dati? Ayaw m mag IT?

Rfinvest0r, okay ba ang semicon? From what i heard semic0n daw ang lowest in terms of compensation.

[chisato1234]

Im currently practicing our course in the telecoms industry. To tell you honestly, the salary depends upon which type of telecom company you are employed in. Maganda ang experience sa telecoms. Pede ka mag abroad particularly sa middle east or ipadala ng company mo sa ibang bansa for trainings kaso my bond. Tanungin mo muna sarili mo kung san mo talaga gusto. Pag nagustuhan mo sa telecoms ituloy mo lang pero kung hindi mag shift ka na lang sa it or semicon....vice versa. Tulad ko di ko talaga gusto mag semicon kaya nag telecoms ako. Pag nag it naman ako di ko mararamdaman ang pagigi kong ECE...nasasayo yan.

[maCOOLit]

ECE Grad naman ako pero di ako lisensyado, at di ko rin na practice yang telco or semicon, nasa call center bagsak ko. pero mas prefer ko mag work sa IT nalang, kasi gusto ko laging nakaharap sa pc, hahhhahahahaha

[munchy08]

Licensed ECE here. Currently working in the IT industry. Here in the Philippines, the pay in IT is higher than the Telco industry. Plus mas in demand ngayon ang IT kesa sa Telco. 3 lang naman kasi ang Telco companies dito sa Pilipinas samantalang halos lahat ng companies eh merong IT dep't.

[sandino]

if you are going into local telcos like innove, bayantel, pldt as noc... maliit suweldo...

try foreign telcos like AT&T, Verizon Business, British Telecoms etc etc.

well if you are and ECE, i can try to refer you to our HR. I work with Verizon Business as a NOC... pay is actually competitive if you'll base it sa local telco NOC rate...

my email is ramboone_98@yahoo.com

[bryso25]

ece graduate ako, first job was in studio 23 abs cbn year 2000, after 4 months nag awol ako hehehe kuripot kase...dito na ko ngayun singapore working as IT/LAN engineer.

dito sa singapore, mas mabigat ang position na engineer compared sa IT, kaya daming nagtataka na opismates ko kung bakit daw ako nag shift.explain ko na lang sa kanila na baligtad sa pilipinas; mas mataas sahod ng mga nasa IT compared sa mga engineer. kaya ayun, hindi ko nagamit lisensya ko.

enjoy na enjoy ako ngayun sa trabaho ko kase daming idle time(petiks mode),hindi naman lagi me problema ang network tsaka mga user. iniisip ko din minsan what if kung nag stay ako sa telecoms, kung malaki din kaya sahod ko o mas masaya..pero minsan lang

ewan ko ba, daming ece na nag shift ng field. sa tropa ko nung college, 4 kaming nag shift, 3 sa IT 1 sa programming. 2 years after graduation, gulat na lang kame at lahat kme nag shift hahahaha walang usap-usap yon, kanya kanyang desiyon.

so ang advise ko is, kung hindi masaya ka sa telecoms, semicon, or IT, mag shift ka na. maikli lang ang buhay, gawin mo kung ano gusto mo, kung saan ka masaya---at kung saan malaki ang kita hehehe

[timbangers]

im a licensed ece, pero im into IT. i never got the chance to practice my course. liit sweldo eh. sa IT naman, more specifically, sa software/web applications development, madaming options at malaki ang sweldo.

im working as a software engineer, specializing in java, btw.

[mahOgany]

mataas din ba ang demand nang mga IT peepz sa abroad?

any IT people here tried applying for work abroad? mahirap ba ang process?

[HiM0Dz]

i'm an ECE graduate but never had the chance to take the board exams kasi trabaho agad inatupag. tinamad din ako mag review before graduation para makapag board exam agad. related naman ang ECE sa IT since we have subjects like Data Communications and some programming kapareho ng Computer Engineers. i've been in the IT field for around 7 years now..mostly on the infrastructure side (server/network administration, connectivity..) may mga branches din kasi ang IT like platform, security, connectivity/networks, etc etc..

sa ngayon, i'm working in singapore and for sure, in demand ang mga IT peeps dito. bulk of the demand comes from financial institutions like citibank, credit suisse, DBS, UBS, RBS, Barclays Capital, JP Morgan at marami pang iba. i know because i worked in one of those companies before

[mahOgany]

^wow ang galing m naman. Sana balang araw maging as successful m ako.

Pinadala k b sa singapore or nagapply ka talaga jan? Jan kna b nakabase?

[HiM0Dz]

dito na work ko.. dati pa apply apply pero di natatawagan.. nag post lang ako ng resume sa mga online job sites.. marami nag b browse na headhunters sa monster.coml.sg... kung kelan di ako nag aapply saka my tumawag for a career opporunity in Singapore.. ayun.. the rest is history.. so far.. 2 years na ako dito..

if you're really into IT, ok yan.. mag e enjoy pa kayo sa work although mejo mahirap nga lang since most of the time, you work when everyone's resting dahil ikaw yung nag m maintain ng infrastructure

[inner_val_117]

I am an ECE licensed, working in IT... akala ko kc mas maganda ng telco... but based from your replies... IT is better... *** ***, mas marami k bng ka kumpetensya sa IT? at you re-learn new things such as programming, *** nkaka-tamad.... *** do you think?..

. How about Sales engineer, maganda ba *** future dun?...

[lyrahs]

I'm a licensed ECE working as telecom engineer. I started my carrer as NOC-BSS engr sa Globe Telecom. Ngayon isa na akong contractor sa ibang bansa, mas malaki sweldo :D

[kenjutz]

i'm planning to shift career to IT, yoko na ** sa work ko as quality control/instrumentation engr.. pati mga senior ko d pa rin asensado. it means mahirap kumita ng maganda sa telco. pero depende rin ***** sa company. any guys out there willing to help me? where do i start? btw, im a 2007 ece graduate. :)

[inner_val_117]

Lyrahs, mga magkano *** ang sahod ng telco sa ibang bansa... higher than IT?

[inner_val_117]

ken, I'm just like you ... dami katanungan sa career... *****, my suggestion... since these are our 1st jobs... Let's venture to other careers where our financial expectations and career path is met... kaya ***, nalilito pa rin ako kung IT or Telco...hehe ... *****, wala na sa list ko ang semicon...

Bata pa tayo.... lawak pa ng future... Patience is a virtue...

[lyrahs]

Lyrahs, mga magkano *** ang sahod ng telco sa ibang bansa... higher than IT?

Naku sis/bro, di ko kasi alam ang range ng sahod ng IT sa pinas or sa ibang bansa eh, kaya di ko masabi kung alin ang mas mataas.

Usually ba magkano ang basic salary ng IT sa ibang bansa?

[Kolmogorov]

Hello ECE grad here, formerly from the semicon industry now in IT....


sa totoo lang nami-miss ko yung "engineering" job ko noon, I was supposed to apply for a very interesting internal position sa former company ko noon kaso huli na ang lahat...

Now that I'm in IT, ok naman, may mga challenges din, kunsumisyon

But take note though, IT jobs are highly outsourceable, and companies are continuously searching for low-cost countries to provide the services...

Mas madaling mag outsource ng IT (which only requires an office space and a bunch of telco/computer facilities) kaysa sa maglipat ng buong planta

[ladiesman807]

walang pera sa telco!
im planning to shift career to IT, probably sa NOC which malapit sa course natin kaso mag-aaral pa ko cisco para competent.
pwede rin naman mag software engr. na lang kayo.:lol:

Simple lang yan you should know lang:

PSTN VS. ENTERPRISE NETWORK/VoIP

O ano mg ECE dito, *** can you say about it?*peace*

*okay*

[franz15]

ece ako pero nasa IT rin (software engineering)... part pa rin naman ng scope of work ng ECE ang IT so ok lang... di ko na naiisip ang titulo basta umasenso hahaha!

[taguros]

sinong nagsabing wlang pera sa TELCO..?

i'm an ECE graduate.. matanda na ata ako, year 2000 ako graduate..

worked for 3 years sa globe telecom, then worked as a subcontractor for major vendor companies, like ericsson and/or Nokia.. and with that you can earn as much as 400usd/DAY.. right now ang daming pinoy sa south america, middle east, asia and here in US who are doing that kind of work and are earning much more..

nature of work is sa planning and implementation of new GSM and/or 3G networks.. ikaw *** representative ng nokia/ericsson sa customer..

[Pickheart]

sinong nagsabing wlang pera sa TELCO..?

i'm an ECE graduate.. matanda na ata ako, year 2000 ako graduate..

worked for 3 years sa globe telecom, then worked as a subcontractor for major vendor companies, like ericsson and/or Nokia.. and with that you can earn as much as 400usd/DAY.. right now ang daming pinoy sa south america, middle east, asia and here in US who are doing that kind of work and are earning much more..

nature of work is sa planning and implementation of new GSM and/or 3G networks.. ikaw *** representative ng nokia/ericsson sa customer..

Eh kahit saang field naman, mataas ang kita pag contractor/subcontractor/sales.

[ih8ateneans]

sinong nagsabing wlang pera sa TELCO..?

i'm an ECE graduate.. matanda na ata ako, year 2000 ako graduate..

worked for 3 years sa globe telecom, then worked as a subcontractor for major vendor companies, like ericsson and/or Nokia.. and with that you can earn as much as 400usd/DAY.. right now ang daming pinoy sa south america, middle east, asia and here in US who are doing that kind of work and are earning much more..

nature of work is sa planning and implementation of new GSM and/or 3G networks.. ikaw *** representative ng nokia/ericsson sa customer..

so magkano ang salary range mo during your 3 years with globe? so you're working abroad now?

[taguros]

for fresh grads, starting sa globe is around 15-18k.. after 3 yrs, it could reach like, 22-25k per month.. plus OT, of course..

yep, working here in abroad.. for the same work i did in globe..

PICKHEART: di na ko contractor/subcontractor/sales ngyon.. pero sa telecoms pa din..

[Pickheart]

for fresh grads, starting sa globe is around 15-18k.. after 3 yrs, it could reach like, 22-25k per month.. plus OT, of course..

yep, working here in abroad.. for the same work i did in globe..

PICKHEART: di na ko contractor/subcontractor/sales ngyon.. pero sa telecoms pa din..

And I heard malaki daw ang OT pay sa Globe. Sayang nga lang kasi freeze hiring sila ngayon.

[bizbryan]

Hello ECE grad here, formerly from the semicon industry now in IT....


sa totoo lang nami-miss ko yung "engineering" job ko noon, I was supposed to apply for a very interesting internal position sa former company ko noon kaso huli na ang lahat...

Now that I'm in IT, ok naman, may mga challenges din, kunsumisyon

But take note though, IT jobs are highly outsourceable, and companies are continuously searching for low-cost countries to provide the services...

Mas madaling mag outsource ng IT (which only requires an office space and a bunch of telco/computer facilities) kaysa sa maglipat ng buong planta

GUys help nmn twice na ko nag attemp mag apply sa IT company. I passed the exams ****. Im an ece grad and lagi me bagsak sa final interview hehe. Kasi they alway ask .. bakit ako mag pursue ng IT e ece ako.. dba related nmn un. ahm ano ba best answer sa interviewer. If ever *** un itatanung? "why do you want to pursue a career in IT e ece ka? and If hilig mo ang IT e bakit di ka nag take ng IT course nung magcocollege ka na? natatameme ako jan. fresh grad e.

[bryanwizard]

yup IT parin ang mas maganda...

experience ko sa design naman walang pupuntahan...

Emerson naman ako work.

[mahOgany]

for fresh grads, starting sa globe is around 15-18k.. after 3 yrs, it could reach like, 22-25k per month.. plus OT, of course..

yep, working here in abroad.. for the same work i did in globe..

PICKHEART: di na ko contractor/subcontractor/sales ngyon.. pero sa telecoms pa din..

22k - 25k per month?

ganyan din ang sweldo ko sa IT *****, entry level pa.. plus OT din :D

di pa mabigat work mo since nakaharap ka lang sa computer. syempre stressfull din siya kahit papaano, but atleast you are compensated well *okay*

[mahOgany]

GUys help nmn twice na ko nag attemp mag apply sa IT company. I passed the exams ****. Im an ece grad and lagi me bagsak sa final interview hehe. Kasi they alway ask .. bakit ako mag pursue ng IT e ece ako.. dba related nmn un. ahm ano ba best answer sa interviewer. If ever *** un itatanung? "why do you want to pursue a career in IT e ece ka? and If hilig mo ang IT e bakit di ka nag take ng IT course nung magcocollege ka na? natatameme ako jan. fresh grad e.


e di sabihin mo na hilig mo talaga ang IT. sabihin mo na you are the type of person that enjoys working with computer, and that you will do better on this type of job.
natameme din ako nung unang beses sakin na tinanong yan eh.

[killernoodle]

sinong nagsabing wlang pera sa TELCO..?

i'm an ECE graduate.. matanda na ata ako, year 2000 ako graduate..

worked for 3 years sa globe telecom, then worked as a subcontractor for major vendor companies, like ericsson and/or Nokia.. and with that you can earn as much as 400usd/DAY.. right now ang daming pinoy sa south america, middle east, asia and here in US who are doing that kind of work and are earning much more..

nature of work is sa planning and implementation of new GSM and/or 3G networks.. ikaw *** representative ng nokia/ericsson sa customer..


siyempre may pera sa telco, kung walang pera diyan eh di dapat wala ng nag tatrabaho, ang point lang ng mga ECE na nag IT career na (like me) is generally speaking, mas may pera talaga sa IT kaysa sa engineering (semicon or telco)

[killernoodle]

for fresh grads, starting sa globe is around 15-18k.. after 3 yrs, it could reach like, 22-25k per month.. plus OT, of course..

yep, working here in abroad.. for the same work i did in globe..

PICKHEART: di na ko contractor/subcontractor/sales ngyon.. pero sa telecoms pa din..

mas malaki pa nga starting ko jan nung nag transfer na ako sa IT company, after working 4 mos in a semicon (10K/month)

so kung starting pa lang ganun na, eh di angat ka na sa iba, so what more kung mag aabroad ka pa, in demand din ang IT kaysa engineering, sayang nga lang hindi mo na magmit iyong titulo,
parang heart/passion (ECE) v.s. brain/practicality (IT) lang iyan,
but IT is just like ECE in some ways, technical din, kelangan mo mag-isip/analyze

[Pickheart]

so kung starting pa lang ganun na, eh di angat ka na sa iba

Pero dude, hindi porket mas malaki ang starting eh mas aangat ka na rin. Minsan may cases na mas malaki ang starting pero after a few years eh nahahabol ng iba ang sweldo mo or nahihigitan pa dahil mas mabagal naman ang career growth & mas mababa ang salary increase. One good example is in the academe. Mataas ang starting ng mga professors/instructors pero in 2-3 years, parang ang onti lang ng itinaas ng sahod nila in comparison with those na nag-work outside the academe.

[onna]

fresh grad ako ece and licensd ndn. and based on my xperience sa pgsearch ng job eh ms madami opprtunity ska mas malaki ang salary sa IT kesa sa field ko. ang hirap pa mkahanap ng work as entry-lvel sa ece compare sa IT n andami talaga, well,, opinion ko lang nmn to my co-PExrs, eto lang yung tingin ko dito sa pinas and wala nko idea pgdating sa labas ng country. :

[onna]

btw, i wanna give my regards to the person who starts this thread. ang galing nito!! i think as of now ece yung pinaka madami na sa field ng engineering, but in the end hindi din nasusunod *** profession kc karamihan talaga ngsshift ng career eh. and worst, yung iba pa eh ngsisisi bakit daw ece pa yung kinuha nila course sa college. Pero hindi pa naman ako umaabot sa ganun,hehe ece in heart pa din ako. so up to this thread, share naman ng opinion nyo and your insights ragarding to this topic lalo sa mga veterans ece PXrs.*okay*

[Opulen]

Im ECE graduate. I had changed of heart. Got a call center job. Sa panahon ngayon importante may work.. Importante din you enjoy your work at hindi because linya mo yun.

[reyven15]

here's my two cents:

ECEs could also be IT professionals but IT professionals couldn't become ECEs! a certified engr. per se

its up to the person kung saang field nya **** mapunta...malawak ang sakop ng ECE, isa dun ang IT field...so ECEs dpat **** mas mgagaling tau sa mga IT professionals hehe...:bop:

[taguros]

here's my two cents:

ECEs could also be IT professionals but IT professionals couldn't become ECEs! a certified engr. per se

its up to the person kung saang field nya **** mapunta...malawak ang sakop ng ECE, isa dun ang IT field...so ECEs dpat **** mas mgagaling tau sa mga IT professionals hehe...:bop:


i work in a telco firm and i couldn't agree more with reyven15.

as an ECE, halimbawa hindi makatawag ang isang mobile subscriber.. what do you check? you check transmission (SDH, microwave, etc), SS7 (ISUP signalling, MAP signalling) etc.. things you learn from communication theory.. i think the author of the book is tanenbaum.. these things you learn as an ECE.. i don't think tinituro ito sa mga IT courses.. but still hindi limited ang ECE sa mga items na un.. we're also required to learn Cisco stuff *** sa SS7 over IP.. on a daily basis we also use C++, visual basic to prepare some macro stuff.. also *** mga concepts about TDM, voice channels, circuits, i don't think tinituro sya sa IT..

isa pa, pag naghanap ka ng ece position online, usually required din ang UNIX at LINUX.. for example, check itong link na ito for a 3G Radio access engineer,

http://careers.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/hr/recru.nsf/vwJobs/14DC065BB7218050C22574DC005C5CF9

of course, the objective here is hindi maliitin ang IT.. it's just that from the start i really hate doing programming stuff *** pasyensya na kung medyo bias ako, :rotflmao:

conclusion: mas broad talaga ang sakop ng ECE profession.. kung baga, subset ng ECE ang IT, :rolleyes:

[Pickheart]

Oo nga pero kung IT job ang pag-uusapan, I don't think mas magaling talaga tayong mga ECE kesa sa mga IT people. Mas focused kasi sa IT ang pinag-aralan nila eh.

[Summer `Peach]

I'm a licensed ECE but ever got to practice. Hehe I think I forgot na nga most of the things I learned in college. I shifted to IT as soon as I passed the boards - ayun so far i don't have regrets naman. I remember my classmates who worked for telco got a job na 10k lang yung basic salary noon - to think na board topnotcher pa sya. He then quit his job because he felt it wasn't worth it. My close friend naman works at astec and after 4 years, yung salary nya is just almost (buut not quite) equal to 25k (which was my starting salary in 2004). So imagine nalang yung difference sa salary.

I still wonder at times if I would've succeeded in the engineering field - pero as I said wala akong regrets :)

[reyven15]

i work in a telco firm and i couldn't agree more with reyven15.

as an ECE, halimbawa hindi makatawag ang isang mobile subscriber.. what do you check? you check transmission (SDH, microwave, etc), SS7 (ISUP signalling, MAP signalling) etc.. things you learn from communication theory.. i think the author of the book is tanenbaum.. these things you learn as an ECE.. i don't think tinituro ito sa mga IT courses.. but still hindi limited ang ECE sa mga items na un.. we're also required to learn Cisco stuff *** sa SS7 over IP.. on a daily basis we also use C++, visual basic to prepare some macro stuff.. also *** mga concepts about TDM, voice channels, circuits, i don't think tinituro sya sa IT..

isa pa, pag naghanap ka ng ece position online, usually required din ang UNIX at LINUX.. for example, check itong link na ito for a 3G Radio access engineer,

http://careers.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/hr/recru.nsf/vwJobs/14DC065BB7218050C22574DC005C5CF9

of course, the objective here is hindi maliitin ang IT.. it's just that from the start i really hate doing programming stuff *** pasyensya na kung medyo bias ako, :rotflmao:

conclusion: mas broad talaga ang sakop ng ECE profession.. kung baga, subset ng ECE ang IT, :rolleyes:


to add:
IT stuffs could be learned even by the not so techy persons...kaya nga may mga crash courses sa mga IT centers eh (eg. informatics) basta kailangan mo lang talaga ng passion in what you do...=]

[reyven15]

I'm a licensed ECE but ever got to practice. Hehe I think I forgot na nga most of the things I learned in college. I shifted to IT as soon as I passed the boards - ayun so far i don't have regrets naman. I remember my classmates who worked for telco got a job na 10k lang yung basic salary noon - to think na board topnotcher pa sya. He then quit his job because he felt it wasn't worth it. My close friend naman works at astec and after 4 years, yung salary nya is just almost (buut not quite) equal to 25k (which was my starting salary in 2004). So imagine nalang yung difference sa salary.

I still wonder at times if I would've succeeded in the engineering field - pero as I said wala akong regrets :)


good thing you're not having regrets bout the career path you landed...but i would like to give to your friend who works at ASTEC, it only shows hindi sya materialistic kasi nakatagal naman sya ng 4 years eh...gusto nya malamang yung ginagawa nya...and I think that's the real essence of success

[reyven15]

Oo nga pero kung IT job ang pag-uusapan, I don't think mas magaling talaga tayong mga ECE kesa sa mga IT people. Mas focused kasi sa IT ang pinag-aralan nila eh.

I said "DAPAT" mas magaling tayo sa kanila...peace! *okay*

[pink_gold]

most of my friends/classmates (when i took this course) are now in IT..

[Pickheart]

I said "DAPAT" mas magaling tayo sa kanila...peace! *okay*

Kung sa lawak ng scope, oo. Pero kung IT alone, I don't think so. Like I said, mas may focus sila sa mga related stuff nung nag-aaral sila whereas tayo eh parang a little bit of everything lang.

Parang ang hirap maging mas magaling sa kanila kung sila eh yun ang expertise nila & tayo ay hindi.

[mahOgany]

good thing you're not having regrets bout the career path you landed...but i would like to give to your friend who works at ASTEC, it only shows hindi sya materialistic kasi nakatagal naman sya ng 4 years eh...gusto nya malamang yung ginagawa nya...and I think that's the real essence of success

True, but still in the long run, salary still counts a major factor of success. If you start low, youll still end low, atleast compared to those who started high.

hehe di nmn masyadong mukhang pera hehe. :D

[Pickheart]

True, but still in the long run, salary still counts a major factor of success. If you start low, youll still end low, atleast compared to those who started high.

hehe di nmn masyadong mukhang pera hehe. :D

Dude, ok lang yan. Minsan talaga kahit di natin linya, kelangan natin pasukin para kumita ng tama o ng malaki. Lalo na sa panahon ngayon diba? Aanhin mo ang passion kung hindi naman makakain ang pamilya mo? Hehehe.

[jhaymar]

It really depends kung ano ang mas prefer mong field.

Alala ko tuloy tanong ng classmate ko noon na kung anong work ang dapat piliin niya. Sa isang telco company ba oh yung sa isang IT company. Yung offer ng IT company in terms of salary is twice what the telco company was offering.

Ang una kong tinanong is kung ano ang mas prefer niyang tahakin na field. Tas I gave him the pros and cons of both fields. Pero in the end he chose the company which offered him a higher compensation.

Dito sa Pilipinas mas mataas nga lang talaga ang compensation ng mga IT peeps kesa sa mga engineers na ginagamit ang license nila.

Pero sa ibang bansa, pareho lang, if not mas mataas pa nga. In the company where my dad works, yung Filipino na may pinakamataas na salary sa kanila ay isang engineer, doble ata ang kinikita niya compared sa mga IT peeps na nandun.

Masasabi ko lang is in the long run, since mukhang telco vs IT to, mas stable ang work sa telco.

[bizbryan]

ahm ECE grad ako di pa ako licensed. adivise naman po dyan.. do i need to pass the board exam first bago mag work? what do you think guys?

[silent_killer24]

ECE grad din po ako pero in the field of IT ang work ko. Before I dreamed of working in Telecoms like Smart at Globe. Ilang beses akong nagapply sa mga company na ito pero di man lang ako binigyan ng 1 chance na mainterview. Whereas yung karamihan sa mga friends ko at ka batch ko eh nasa Smart at Globe. Well, tinahak ko ang field ng IT. I don't regret at all. God has shown me the right way. Should I take the Telecoms career path, I can say that my career in IT is far successful one. I'm currently working now sa isang malaking IT company dito sa Singapore and the pay is 5 times of what I'm earning sa IT company ko sa Pinas. My verdict: IT people pays more than those in Telecoms.

Bizbryan, never kong nagamit ang ECE licensed ko. Prang balewala alng sya. Pero kung ako sa iyo, if you have the chance and time, take it. It's your pride passing the board. It will always be with you for the lifetime. If you wont take it now, it would be harder for you in the future pag nagdecide ka na magtake na. Saka magandang accessory yan license sa resume mo but yung certificates like CCNA, CCNP, GCIA, CISSP, etc matters most nowadays.

[steelbody]

ECE grad din po ako pero in the field of IT ang work ko. Before I dreamed of working in Telecoms like Smart at Globe. Ilang beses akong nagapply sa mga company na ito pero di man lang ako binigyan ng 1 chance na mainterview. Whereas yung karamihan sa mga friends ko at ka batch ko eh nasa Smart at Globe. Well, tinahak ko ang field ng IT. I don't regret at all. God has shown me the right way. Should I take the Telecoms career path, I can say that my career in IT is far successful one. I'm currently working now sa isang malaking IT company dito sa Singapore and the pay is 5 times of what I'm earning sa IT company ko sa Pinas. My verdict: IT people pays more than those in Telecoms.

Bizbryan, never kong nagamit ang ECE licensed ko. Prang balewala alng sya. Pero kung ako sa iyo, if you have the chance and time, take it. It's your pride passing the board. It will always be with you for the lifetime. If you wont take it now, it would be harder for you in the future pag nagdecide ka na magtake na. Saka magandang accessory yan license sa resume mo but yung certificates like CCNA, CCNP, GCIA, CISSP, etc matters most nowadays.

saktong sakto.. pinoproblema ko ito ngayon

Kakagrad ko lang ng ECE last May 2008, i already had a job offer even before the day of our graduation. Plano ko magreview para sa board examination pero ayoko namang tanggihan yung trabaho na binibigay sa akin. Kaya ayun, tinanggap ko yung trabaho. Network Engineer yung position.

Ngayon, ang problema ko ay kung dapat ko pa bang ipasa yung ECE board examination kahit na sa NOC ako nagtatrabaho or tapusin ko na yung CCNP ko (2 exam na lang) then take the board exam after ko makuha lahat ng certification na gusto ko?

Parang personal fulfillment/pride (ECE) vs career advancement (CCNP) ang nangyayari eh.. ang hirap din kasi kumuha ng time para magaral for CCNP, tapos sabayan mo pa ng review ng ECE, tapos pasok ka pa every saturday and sunday para sa review sa board, at hindi pa nagtatapos yan, samahan mo pa ng trabaho from monday to friday

And more one thing, hindi ba kailangan ipa-renew yang license sa ECE after 3 years? saka dapat may dapat kang ma-achieve na points para ma-renew to? sabi lang kasi to nung instructor namin sa Excel eh. Nasa batas daw ito

[Kolmogorov]

GUys help nmn twice na ko nag attemp mag apply sa IT company. I passed the exams ****. Im an ece grad and lagi me bagsak sa final interview hehe. Kasi they alway ask .. bakit ako mag pursue ng IT e ece ako.. dba related nmn un. ahm ano ba best answer sa interviewer. If ever *** un itatanung? "why do you want to pursue a career in IT e ece ka? and If hilig mo ang IT e bakit di ka nag take ng IT course nung magcocollege ka na? natatameme ako jan. fresh grad e.


Ay sorry! Ngyon ko lang nabasa ito. Tinanong din yan sa akin. The interviewer is obviously clueless and still thinks that IT can only be learned by IT/Cmp Sci grads.

Ang sagot ko, IT is still part of the ECE profession (nakasulat talaga yan sa Definition ng ECE sa ECE Law). So it's not really unrelated to my course. Besides, kahit naman mga CS grads di rin naman nila natutunan school yung position na inapplyan ko.

And yung isa pang answer ko noon, my course may not be related by content, but the skills acquired by taking the course will surely be a big advantage for me to succeed in this position.


Sa mga ECE peeps na nasa IT ngayon like me, let's make our professio proud by always thinking and acting like an ENGINEER.

Alam nyo na ibig ko sabihin...:naughty:

[acero]

Just remember guys na at the end of the day, mas mahalaga na masaya ka sa trabaho mo. Go for what your heart really desires, second na lang yung pocket needs. Coz like me, I am a licensed ECE, mas pinili ko b4 *** offer sa kin sa semicon kasi it will pay me good, kaya eto after 2 and a half years, magshishift ako to IT because its what I really want, regardless kung entry-level position ang ibigay sa kin. *okay*

[Kent_210]

^Di rin kung di ka naman well compensated.

Makisabat na rin ako though I'm not ECE. I graduated EE and my first job is in IT in Makati. After 6 months, nag shift ako sa Semiconductor in Sta. Rosa, Laguna. I worked there for more than a year and now nandito nako sa Singapore.

What's the advantage of Semicon to IT if you're rooting for Singapore? Mas madami ang supply ng Filipino Semicon Engineers, they almost outnumbered the Asian nations. As for the IT, equally distributed yan among Indians, Chinese, Singaporeans and others. So dapat competetive ka.

Yun nga lang, mas mataas ang offer ng IT dito compare sa semicon, though semicon offers allows OT naman unlike sa IT na OTY.

[silent_killer24]

Your ECE license expires every 3rd year of your birthday but you can renew it without taking any exams anymore. Not unlike Cisco certifications which are in demand sa mga IT companies like CCNA, CCNP, CISSP are good only for 3 years. After it expires, you don't have the right to use the title anymore not unless you retake the exam or upgraded to a higher certification.

It is true that IT is in demand here in Singapore. Nakakataba ng puso kasi everytime na may magtanong (kahit na kapwa Pilipino) kung ano ang job mo dito sa SG, at pag nalaman nila na sa IT ka nagwowork, saludo sila sa iyo. Ang taas ng tingin sa iyo kasi they know that it pays well.

I'm so blessed na kahit recession whereas maraming companies ang ngreretrench ng mga tao nila eh di kami masyado apektado. Meron pa rin kaming 13th month (which is NOT mandatory sa Singapore laws) at bonus. Freeze hiring lang kami pero very relax naman sa job. More kasi ako sa monitoring jobs kaya di masyado nakaka stress. Marami kaming OT (na bayad syempre) prior to recession pero ngayon medyo konti na lang kasi medyo nagtitipid ang company pero ok na rin kasi nakakarelax at may time mag aral sa bahay.

[thorin06]

IN THE END.. ITS HOW ONE'S SELF EXCEL IN HIS/HER CHOSEN IT/ENGINEERING JOB/CAREER THAT MATTERS.

JUST MY .99 centavos.

[reyven15]

kung pagiging praktikal na lang din ang paguusapan. Fresh grads should also consider about companies that have outsourced businesses. Most foreign-based IT companies here in the Phils are outsourced lang naman, so kung IT lang din ang gusto niyong itrack na career, dun na lang kayo sa local IT companies or companies that have IT activities (eg banks)...

[jdash]

^ kung pagiging praktikal nga naman what if the person is in need financially.
So I think consider for outsourced Jobs as long as your in the path you want to go, for money at the same time your goal.

2cents *peace*

[reyven15]

huwag padalos dalos ng desisyon...
kuha kayo mga info bout sa company na gusto nyo pasukan...
marami nang pangit na kumpanya ngayon coz of global economic crisis :)

[bizbryan]

kung pagiging praktikal na lang din ang paguusapan. Fresh grads should also consider about companies that have outsourced businesses. Most foreign-based IT companies here in the Phils are outsourced lang naman, so kung IT lang din ang gusto niyong itrack na career, dun na lang kayo sa local IT companies or companies that have IT activities (eg banks)...

im currently applying IT sa bangko.. any idea about the job scope? as an IT sa isang bangko?

[reyven15]

im currently applying IT sa bangko.. any idea about the job scope? as an IT sa isang bangko?

broad kasi ang sakop ng IT sa banks eh...pde ka sa infra,database or sa development...saang bank kb? bpi?

[zerglings]

aba si steelbody nagtake na ng CCNP exams. kelan lang nagtatanong ka ng mga CCNA topics. hehe. naunahan mo na ako ah. c",)

----------------------

tinuturo rin sa IT ang TDM, voice, and etc pero depende rin sa school. chaka depende sa student kung gusto talaga pagaralan. hindi naman ganon kailangan pag nagtotroubleshoot ka ng problem eh. pero depende rin syempre. palagay ko sa voice kailangan mo halos lahat ng concept kasi pag nag VoIP track ka na kailangan mo alamin lahat para matroubleshoot mo yung problem.

tinuro sa amin yung PCM modulation, FSK, PSK, and etc pero so far hindi never ko nagamit pang troubleshoot. we did cover it when we had "training" for our new VSAT network pero we still do not need to know how it really works for us to troubleshoot why the remote isn't communicating. ang masasabi ko lang sa mga tao jan, wag kayo masyadong magyabang na mas magaling or mas matalino kayo. may mga ibang tao jan na highschool lang natapos pero ang daming alam sa IT kaya wag kayo masyado humanga sa sarili niyo.

[gumblade84]

ECE here!
in my opinion, ECE's are the jack of all trades.. biruan nga namin noon vs. EE and CoE students- ECE stands for Electrical and Computer Engineering!! panis silang lahat! joke lang naman yun guys... =)

anyway, our course is so diverse, it all boils down to what you want to be a master of. be it IT, Telco, Broadcasting, Semicon -name it, sakop natin yan mga bro! so my advise is just go where you really want to and you will be successful there!

[steelbody]

aba si steelbody nagtake na ng CCNP exams. kelan lang nagtatanong ka ng mga CCNA topics. hehe. naunahan mo na ako ah. c",)




Mas marami lang po siguro akong time mag-aral. Kapag walang ticket at tawag, nagrereview ako eh. Saka walking distance lang yung office ko :)



Malapit na ECE board exam. Pang networking pa rin inaaral ko.. hehe

[reyven15]

ECE here!
in my opinion, ECE's are the jack of all trades.. biruan nga namin noon vs. EE and CoE students- ECE stands for Electrical and Computer Engineering!! panis silang lahat! joke lang naman yun guys... =)

anyway, our course is so diverse, it all boils down to what you want to be a master of. be it IT, Telco, Broadcasting, Semicon -name it, sakop natin yan mga bro! so my advise is just go where you really want to and you will be successful there!

AGREE AGREE AGREE :)

[darkreality]

ece meh batch '02

so far heto mga jobs ko...

1. call center
2. construction (hehehe, taga gawa ng poste ng pldt)
3. cad design

di ko alam kung IT ang design. so far mas gusto ko nah sa ngayon ang design... wala kasi akong talent sa programs. pero plan ko magstudy din ng IT baka makatulong din in the long run.

[=schnuci=]

hi, am new here. this thread caught my eye since i'm contemplating whether to change careers. i work at a semicon coy and forecast isn't that great. the global financial crisis has affected the semicon industry big time. so i have to save my *** and think of Plan B. :rotflmao: btw, im an ECE este EE as in electronics engr. kc wala ng ECE. narrowed down na para di tayo mahirapan. :D i enrolled before in CCNA but got an offer from a semicon coy so i dropped it. geez. now im wondering kung asan na ako ngayon kung itinuloy ko lang sana yun. hehe. ano kaya magandang short IT course? pls. advise. im considering java programming. what do you think guys? thanks po in advance. :)

[032699]

ako din ECE....licensed...pero now in IT..programming/web development...**** kelan di ko nagamit pagiging ECE ko kasi 2 years akong nabakante sa pag hahanap ng ECE related work..kaya nag pasya agad ako mag short IT course after 2 years after grad na walang work..now I have 5 years solid development experience..now working as freelance programmer/developer..hehe..2 years na rin akong nag sarili (not working for a company) and so far so good naman..looking forward to create my own IT outsourcing company this year...

[zerglings]

Mas marami lang po siguro akong time mag-aral. Kapag walang ticket at tawag, nagrereview ako eh. Saka walking distance lang yung office ko :)

ah.. wala pa akong time magaral eh.. nasa school rin kasi ako.. so don ako nakaconcentrate.. pero networking rin naman.. last sem CCDA topics covered namin.. ngayon naman network management at CWNA topics... patapos na rin ako sa school so sa april or may dapat may time na ako para sa CCNP exams..

[=schnuci=]

sabi ng friend ko sa singapore, mas patok ang IT ngayon. although mabenta naman sa SG ang work ko(product engr), i'd like to move away from manufacturing na dahil napaka-volatile ng business, semicon per se. boom and bust na sinasabi. nakakabilib nga mga ECE na nag-IT kasi not everyone can do programming or networking. i also do programming sa work like dev't. at debugging ng test programs. i think di naman ako mahihirapan pag nag-shift na ko sa prgmng. i hope. :eek: sharing lang, IT ang 1st choice ko when i took the entrance exams in our school kaya lang takot ako sa programming, so shift sa ECE kc wala naman CoE na inooffer dun. sa IT rin pala ako babagsak. and i took the long cut pa. :depressed:

ECE - jack of all trades, master of none. ;)

[ace6285]

ECE - jack of all trades, master of none. ;)

Hindi naman siguro master of none, hehe. Sa umpisa lang siguro yan habang namimili ng field pero pag lumaon, Master na rin. hehe

[Summer `Peach]

good thing you're not having regrets bout the career path you landed...but i would like to give to your friend who works at ASTEC, it only shows hindi sya materialistic kasi nakatagal naman sya ng 4 years eh...gusto nya malamang yung ginagawa nya...and I think that's the real essence of success

sad to say though na she stayed there kasi she felt she had no choice :( she resigned na and is still looking for a new job.

[mahOgany]

sabi ng friend ko sa singapore, mas patok ang IT ngayon. although mabenta naman sa SG ang work ko(product engr), i'd like to move away from manufacturing na dahil napaka-volatile ng business, semicon per se. boom and bust na sinasabi. nakakabilib nga mga ECE na nag-IT kasi not everyone can do programming or networking. i also do programming sa work like dev't. at debugging ng test programs. i think di naman ako mahihirapan pag nag-shift na ko sa prgmng. i hope. :eek: sharing lang, IT ang 1st choice ko when i took the entrance exams in our school kaya lang takot ako sa programming, so shift sa ECE kc wala naman CoE na inooffer dun. sa IT rin pala ako babagsak. and i took the long cut pa. :depressed:

ECE - jack of all trades, master of none. ;)

really patok ang IT ***** sa singapore? well i guess thats good news to us all :)

sana after 2 yrs patok pa din IT jobs sa abroad

[Cornsnack]

Yun nga ang maganda sa IT eh, constant kasi yung pagprogress. Kung dati paturbo-turbo C lang tayo, ngayon, may SAP na or kung ano man na hindi mo pwedeng aralin sa bahay kasi may bayad. Hehehe.

Ako rin, kakagraduate ko lang. Pero mas gusto ko talaga IT eh. Siguro ang pinakarelated na na job na pangarap ko as ECE is yung Network Admin. Ni hindi ko nga alam kung pipitsuging trabaho yun, pero mas gusto ko kasi yung comm talaga eh. Tsaka programmer din ako since 1st year college pa lang. Siguro, sa buong ECE batch namin, nasa top 5 ako in terms of programming/adapting to new software (Kaya niyo rin i-assess ang sarili niyo, di ako nagyayabang ah hahaha).

Pero ngayon, the best way siguro para makapagshift ka ng IT career is to learn how to program their requested languages. Nung isang araw lang, di ko alam ang difference ng Java sa J2EE eh. I suggest bago ka magventure sa IT field, mag-aral ka muna mag-isa. Para malagay mo sa resume mo na "Proficient in <language>". O di pag pinag-on-the-spot programming ka ng language na yun, elibs sila sayo.

Siguro ang advantage rin ng ECE over IT courses eh yung alam natin kung anong nangyayari behind the things that make IT companies run. Kunwari, may nakita kang Zener diode. Kung ECE ka, hahawakan mo yun at titingnan mo kung ano yung voltage limit. Kung IT ka, baka kainin mo yun kasi akala mo java rice. JOKE! Peace tayo! Hehehe.

[shaokao]

marami nga ako naririnig na ok ang it. nasa telecoms ako *****..2 yrs pa lang. plan ko mag aral ng cisco. depende sa work sched ko. contractor kasi kami, kaya walang time ang work and minsan na aasign pa sa mga province...di kasi ako magaling sa programming or wala lang ako tiyagang pag aralan..hehehe tingin ko kailangan lang nating mag-upgrade ng nalalaman..

[Heartthrob15]

Well nobody can anser that but you. Im an ECE grad from mapua batch 2004. Now im working as an Infrastructure Engineer with
a leading software company. It's very cool to be in I.T, Easy work, Its not work for me but playtime. I manage a 480+ workstation network, Penetration test each server (that is to hack every server to know what their weaknesses are). The best job in the world.

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[Chrisendic]

Well nobody can anser that but you. Im an ECE grad from mapua batch 2004. Now im working as an Infrastructure Engineer with
a leading software company. It's very cool to be in I.T, Easy work, Its not work for me but playtime. I manage a 480+ workstation network, Penetration test each server (that is to hack every server to know what their weaknesses are). The best job in the world.

Gusto ko lang magsalute sa lahat ng nagbigay ng mga opinions nila. I've really learned a lot from this thread. Talagang inisa isa ko from the start til the end.

Nga pala, i just recently passed the board exams last oct,2008. But i have already worked as a Product Engineer sa isang semiconductor company.Nagresign lang ako just to review full time for the board (pride natin un as ECE's) and besides, i felt like my job in the semicon field was not as fulfilling as i have expected 3 years ago.

Ngayon, i have finished half of CCNA. I really want to take the risk of penetrating the networking world. But honestly, i dont know where to start. Clueless kasi ako dito sa pinapasok ko. I mean, meron bang mga companies ngayon na tumatanggap ng mga wala pang experience sa network engineering at willing magtrain ng mga tao? Is my experience enough para tanggapin nila ako? Ang sa akin kasi at least may basic knowledge ako but im still thinking if its enough for me to hire them. Or should i finish my CCNA first before doing any move. Pero kasi parang gusto ko na magtrabaho eh. Please help naman po. Im so confused right now.

[scream_benihime]

^parang pareho tayo ng iniisip ah.

ECE din ako [nov 2007], worked for a Semicon rin, i went to a CCNA boot camp last January. Lagi ko rin yan iniisip dati kung ok lang kaya na magwork na kahit hindi pa CCNA. Pero lately naisip ko na ipasa na lang muna yung CCNA exam bago mag job hunt ulit, kasi baka pag nagwork na ako ulit wala na akong time mag study and magtake ng ccna exam, whereas pag naipasa ko na yung exam saka ko na lang problemahin maghanap ng work. Malawak naman ang sakop ng networking e, kahit anong industry meron at meron LAN/WAN setup dun. Try to search in jobstreet and in jobsdb, marami mga companies looking for CCNA, madalas nga lang may experience, pero baka pwed nila tayo iconsider, hehe.

So para sa akin, exam muna para mas masaya. =]

[HiM0Dz]

Gusto ko lang magsalute sa lahat ng nagbigay ng mga opinions nila. I've really learned a lot from this thread. Talagang inisa isa ko from the start til the end.

Nga pala, i just recently passed the board exams last oct,2008. But i have already worked as a Product Engineer sa isang semiconductor company.Nagresign lang ako just to review full time for the board (pride natin un as ECE's) and besides, i felt like my job in the semicon field was not as fulfilling as i have expected 3 years ago.

Ngayon, i have finished half of CCNA. I really want to take the risk of penetrating the networking world. But honestly, i dont know where to start. Clueless kasi ako dito sa pinapasok ko. I mean, meron bang mga companies ngayon na tumatanggap ng mga wala pang experience sa network engineering at willing magtrain ng mga tao? Is my experience enough para tanggapin nila ako? Ang sa akin kasi at least may basic knowledge ako but im still thinking if its enough for me to hire them. Or should i finish my CCNA first before doing any move. Pero kasi parang gusto ko na magtrabaho eh. Please help naman po. Im so confused right now.

tapusin mo muna yung CCNA certification then try to get a job related to Networks/Connectivity. most likely you will be offered an entry level position since wala ka pang experience. but when you land a job, try to further your networking studies. nowadays, CCNA certification is not enough - it just shows you know the basics and companies are looking for at least CCNP or CCSP certified applicants. keep in mind that the CCNA cert expires after 3 years so kailangan mo mag upgrade para hindi mag expire yung cert mo.

anyway.. good luck =)

[redyps]

Hi there!!

I'm an ECE. Graduated last april 2008 and passed the board exam last October. I'm now currently working as a tech support engr of an antivirus software..plano ko pong mag shift ng career..hirap po kasi pumasok sa telco so IT yata ang pwedeng career path ko. Networking sana kaso parang back to zero ako. I need to get CCNA certifications and parang tight ang competition..I also tried to apply as a software test engineer in azeus and parang maganda naman sya. analysis lang and walang programming..

Please advice po..

:-)

[speedcuber]

I'm not an ECE grade pero, I should say sobrang bilib ako sa mga ECE grads. I know kasi na sobrang hirap ng course na ito (especially sa UP, if they heard ECE ang course mo, it means you have a brilliant mind). Anyway, I also want to say na there's nothing wrong naman siguro with ECE grads working in IT, you get to use din naman your technical and analytical skills although not directly. Here's a trivia, sa HP, if you disregard all the CS/IT grads, majority of the resources are ECE grads.

[redyps]

Thanks to everyone. I really learned a lot. Confuse lang po kasi ako sa dapat na career path ko. Gusto ko po sana IT field pero hindi programming or networking. Meron po ba nun? Ano pong company? Please advice...
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[HiM0Dz]

Thanks to everyone. I really learned a lot. Confuse lang po kasi ako sa dapat na career path ko. Gusto ko po sana IT field pero hindi programming or networking. Meron po ba nun? Ano pong company? Please advice...
Thanks in advance...

meron din naman. you can go to server/systems administration for one. pero ano muna yung gusto mong work? siguro we can say that IT is a diverse field at the moment. maraming job functions na kino consider as "IT-related". so alin ba dun ang gusto mo? are you into documentation/analysis/security/etc?

[redyps]

meron din naman. you can go to server/systems administration for one. pero ano muna yung gusto mong work? siguro we can say that IT is a diverse field at the moment. maraming job functions na kino consider as "IT-related". so alin ba dun ang gusto mo? are you into documentation/analysis/security/etc?

Thanks HiM0Dz,

gusto ko po sana networking. kaso most of the companies kelangan CCNA and experience. pano ako magkakaexperience kung karamihan kelangan meron na??

And meron po bang IT career na hardware related? like design..

Thanks

[roan_ganda21]

un..
ece grad here.. fresh from the board (march 2009).
currently thinking of joining a bootcamp..
san ba mas maganda?.. mapua or rivan?.. yan lang kasi alam koh..

cisco or programming(java/visual/c++)?.. simula ever jack of all trades kasi ako.. gusto koh naman makapagfocus sa isang linya na kahit paikutin ako makakalusot pa rin.. puro working knowledge ang alam koh.. good, kasi di ako stck. pero still, dapat may specialty diba?.. whatyathink po?..

or jobhunt! magtrabaho ka na! pasaway ka!

No regrets EcE ako.. proud to be one.. lalo na *** nakita koh reaction nila parents pagkapasa ni board.. hehe.. =).. kaya dapat patunayan na worth it tawagin na EcE.. aja aja.. besides, agree.. i.t. is still part of our napakalawak na field.. ayt?..

onga.. pano kaya un noh.. para sa mga freshies.. pano tayo magkakaexperience kung need experience na agad hanap nila.. waaahhh

please advise po.. thanks! =)