what would u choose?

[guest_1110]

there are two job offers:

JOB OFFER A:
- multinational company
- 9am-6pm lang talaga. pero since multinational nga, ang regular uwian na talaga is mga 8-9pm. sometimes inuumaga pa!
- no overtime pay!
-the job is really clerical... you know... encoding in the computer, stuffs like that.
- the pay is around P22k a month!

JOB OFFER B:
- local company
- 8:30am-5:30pm. regular uwian is around 6-7pm. pero for sure hindi aabutin ng umaga!
-no overtime pay din!
- the job is much better. mas hindi clerical since you get to research and analyze data. pero may clerical din
- the pay is around P10k a month


what will you guys choose?

[Yashiro]

neither, find yourself a better job, if worse comes to worst, pipiliin ko na un 22k per month, ano gagawin mo sa 10k per month???? kulang pa yan pamasahe, pagkain, pang gimik, at pang date sa chicks, wala ka pang ipon! 10k ampf...

[PEXboy]

hmmm anu yung name ng company?

ok lang ako sa 10K if may free breakfast/lunch/dinner/honda civic 2007/condo/laptop/pda

seriously go for A

[guest_1110]

the thing is... im a fresh grad, guys! hahaha no experience pa except for my OJT!

better job? meron pa ba, palagay niyo? as of the recent 5 job offers i've had... yan 2 na pinaka-ok in terms of regularization, position, location, salary...

[gb25]

depende sa career na gusto mo ipursue and kung ano talaga yung mas gusto mong gawin. if fresh grad, okay lang ang 10k a month. at least may variations yung gagawin mo, hindi lang encoding and some clerical tasks. kung 10k man, san rin ang location ng office? kasi kung malapit, makakaipon ka rin.

[gb25]

ano ba course mo?

[guest_1110]

commerce grad ako. talaga? ok lang for a fresh grad ang 10k? both locations' are in makati... and im near the place naman. bus lang ang transpo ko, so around P22 a day. kaya lang syempre yung pagkain mo pa db?

what i was thinking din kasi is... sabi ng dad ko lahat naman daw ng trabaho is mahirap. uso na raw sa companies ngayon ang overtime talaga.

[coldrockster]

Well, nowadays, practicality is the number one priority for almost everybody. Unless your family is quite well off, choosing the first option would be better. Having an additional 12k per month would surely help you in a lot of ways.

[guest_1110]

my family's ok naman. my mom's always telling me na wag daw muna ko particular sa sweldo. but my dad's saying na dapat daw malaki sweldo ko since yun ang magiging basis ng future salaries...

pero personally din, syempre gusto ko yung P22k since malaking help yun sa family ko. as in i can treat them sa restos, buy them good gifts... tapos konting ipon lang pwede pa ko makabili condo siguro someday. haha yun nga lang puyat at pagod ang puhunan. pero oh well, that's work naman di ba?

so almost lahat kayo option a noh? dahil talaga sa sweldo...? siguro i should just try. experience wise din.

[Ice Burn]

If I was to choose, I will chose the MNC because it'll have a bigger impact on my resume and my career growth. Usually MNCs have more opportunities for growth and just the fact that you worked for an MNC speaks for itself despite the job being clerical. And since you're a fresh grad, you shouldn't be too bummed about clerical work since you have no work experience to speak off. You may start clerical but you'll learn a lot and be in the know for the better opportunities within the MNC. Usually MNCs promote from within so starting there and moving up is a definite possibility. Also, the P22K pay is a negotiating tool later on if you transfer companies, your payslip will be proof that you can ask that salary or higher if you transfer companies.

[rabbaddal]

Your father has a valid point about how your starting can become a basis for future salary increases. However, you can get around that by going to graduate school and applying for higher-paying and higher-skilled jobs after. At the end of the day, employers will pay you for your skills and performance. Your past salary is secondary.

If this is the kind of path you see for yourself, go for the local company with the lower salary. You’ll sharpen your professional skills more by doing lots of research and analysis than by encoding data. It should also prepare you better for graduate school and the jobs that follow after.

[badzmanaois]

Grab the MNC offer. MNCs generally have well-defined paths for their employees, for example, one can either opt for a technical or management career path and the requisite trainings and skillset buildup are clearly outlined. Furthermore, there may be other benefits provided such as stock options, training portfolio, the chance to travel to the company's other sites/offices, gym membership, just to name a few.

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[rabbaddal]

MNCs have “well-defined paths” especially for frontline employees but that presupposes that you’re already in the frontline to begin with. It is highly unlikely that an MNC employee whose skill set is to encode data and file and retrieve documents will be easily transferred to junior positions requiring much more sophisticated skills like JSE, investment analyst or systems analyst. If these skills are not immediately available within the company, MNCs are more likely to hire from the outside rather than transfer someone from clerical.

If it's a choice between clerical and analytical, analytical is better for a starting job even if starting salaries are lower.

[guest_1110]

what i've been thinking is... lahat naman ng work nakakapagod. it's better to be compensated well for the stres your work's giving you di ba? am i right about this one... na lahat naman talaga ng work is nakakapagod? and what if all jobs for fresh grads are really kind of clerical? i mean, oo nga i can't expect do something really "significant" as of the moment since i don't have any working experience.

yun nga lang at least sa option B, hindi "kayod-kalabaw" as compare to the multinational company. yung nga lang ang liit nung sahod.

i computed my possible "savings" kasi sa two salaries. if sa 10k, baka mauwi ko lang talaga is around 3k-4k. but if yung sa 22k, mauuwi ko siguro is around 14k-15k. hahaha see the difference din?

kayo guys, where are you working ba? how stressful? :)

[clone19]

there are two job offers:

JOB OFFER A:
- multinational company
- 9am-6pm lang talaga. pero since multinational nga, ang regular uwian na talaga is mga 8-9pm. sometimes inuumaga pa!
- no overtime pay!
-the job is really clerical... you know... encoding in the computer, stuffs like that.
- the pay is around P22k a month!

JOB OFFER B:
- local company
- 8:30am-5:30pm. regular uwian is around 6-7pm. pero for sure hindi aabutin ng umaga!
-no overtime pay din!
- the job is much better. mas hindi clerical since you get to research and analyze data. pero may clerical din
- the pay is around P10k a month


what will you guys choose?

given your job sounds entry level, choose the MNC. magpakahirap ka muna tsong. case ko recently:

1.0 = lowest, 5.0 = highest

Option 1: Big MNC FMCG

Salary: 2.0
Benefits: 3.0
Career Brownie Points: 3.0
Boss Assessment: 5.0
Liberation/Degree of Freedom: 1.5
Schedule: Marketing, work if needed even weekends, etc.

Option 2: Local Retail/Apparel
Salary: 4.0
Benefits: 1.0
Career Brownie Points: 3.0
Boss Assessment: 3.0
Liberation/Degree of Freedom: 3.0
Schedule: Marketing, work if needed even weekends, etc.

Option 3: Small MNC Telecom/Broadcasting
Salary: 3.0
Benefits: 1.5
Career Brownie Points: 3.0
Boss Assessment: 2.5
Liberation/Degree of Freedom: 3.0
Schedule: Marketing, work if needed even weekends, etc.

My priorities were 2>3>1. I ended up with 3, couldn't wait with 2. :)

[guest_1110]

haha kinda nagulo ko sa way ng assessments mo! :D

so mas malaki sweldo sa small MNC kesa sa big MNC? hahaha tama ba pagkaintindi ko?

yeah u have a point... siguro pakahirap muna talaga para makaipon. i mean, if u want to succeed, work hard! pag tamad walang mararating! :)

congrats on your job sa local retail. :)

[johnmaxwell]

Choose Job Offer A due to the following
Higher Salary
MNC name/reputation will be useful in the future, as MNC only hires (assumption lang) quality candidates.
Better benefits
Better training programs (soft and hard skills)

Stay for at least a year before transferring to a new job, so that you can apply as an experienced employee.

Medyo hype na lang ng konti ang resume and focus on less clerical task in writing your job description.

[salbakuta02]

Me, i'll pick Job offer A. kasi mas challenging pero marami ka naman matututunan.

salary? hmmm....napaka-ipokrito ko naman kung hindi ko sasabihin dahil sa pera. siyempre hindi rin natin maiaalis yan.

overtime: I really don't care kung abutin man ako ng mga 8-9pm or beyond (kahit uup to 12mn pa nga eh) as long as na-accomplish mo yung dapat tapusin para mas productive ka.

[rokrbro]

Parehong-pareho tau ng dilemma ah. I just chose Option A this morning (nag-sign na ko ng contract). Main reason: maganda sa resume, and I'm after the working experience.

[tenderloinw]

Never choose a job that you feel will be boring (although initial impressions might be wrong). It's important that you do what you like. I tell you, salary is nothing compared to your work's nature, ESPECIALLY for a fresh grad.

[guest_1110]

thanks for the advice, guys!

honestly, naiisip ko na talagang tanggapin yung option A... mainly because of the salary. besides since multinational siya, i know naman na hindi lang encoding ang gagawin ko dun. siguro i'll make reports din and the likes.

i agree po na it's important that i would choose the one i like doing. :) personally, i have the feeling na both jobs would be "clerical" talaga since i'm a fresh grad. kaya it's a good thing na i get paid well na rin. parang kahit siguro pagod, maiisip ko lang yung salary na i'll receive and siguro it will be all worth it. like before sa school, hardwork and puyat sa school work... ang reward after is ang pagiging part ng dean's list. ngayon siguro sa work, salary na yung reward. :)

good luck to all of us, guys! kayo ba? how was your 1st work?

[Yashiro]

my family's ok naman. my mom's always telling me na wag daw muna ko particular sa sweldo. but my dad's saying na dapat daw malaki sweldo ko since yun ang magiging basis ng future salaries...

pero personally din, syempre gusto ko yung P22k since malaking help yun sa family ko. as in i can treat them sa restos, buy them good gifts... tapos konting ipon lang pwede pa ko makabili condo siguro someday. haha yun nga lang puyat at pagod ang puhunan. pero oh well, that's work naman di ba?

so almost lahat kayo option a noh? dahil talaga sa sweldo...? siguro i should just try. experience wise din.

Dude, eto pagkakaintindi ko ah

sa Option A, wala growth dahil nga clerical at kayod kalabaw, multination company, un nga llang 22k ang sahod, very good for a fresh grad like you

sa Option B, mukhang nandito yung growth mo sa skills, pero dude 10k? i doubt thats a good company or a company that is known atleast, mag growth ka nga di naman kilala yan company na nasa resume mo, i doubt a known company will give 10k to fresh grads,

tingin ko dude try mo pa hanap iba work, try to go for something na around 15-20k per month sa medyo kilalang company (di kelangan sobrang well known) at yung may growth ka...

if worse comes to worst, as i said on my 1st post, choose A, grabe 10k i promise you kulang yan.. wala kang ipon dyan or wala kang pambli ng gusto mong bagay.. 22k to 10k is a big difference.

[Yashiro]

thanks for the advice, guys!

honestly, naiisip ko na talagang tanggapin yung option A... mainly because of the salary. besides since multinational siya, i know naman na hindi lang encoding ang gagawin ko dun. siguro i'll make reports din and the likes.

i agree po na it's important that i would choose the one i like doing. :) personally, i have the feeling na both jobs would be "clerical" talaga since i'm a fresh grad. kaya it's a good thing na i get paid well na rin. parang kahit siguro pagod, maiisip ko lang yung salary na i'll receive and siguro it will be all worth it. like before sa school, hardwork and puyat sa school work... ang reward after is ang pagiging part ng dean's list. ngayon siguro sa work, salary na yung reward. :)

good luck to all of us, guys! kayo ba? how was your 1st work?

my first work when i graduated gave me 15k pesos salary per month (2k tax so 13k net, mga 7k naiipon ko per month pag bawas na lahat expenses, pero hirap eto kasi di pa ko tumutulong sa expenses sa bahay, so imagine dude 10k per month? may tax pa yan! wala ka nang LUHO or gimik dyan! HEHE) with 13th and 14th month pay (December and March), good benefits/health benefits as well.. medyo kayod din minsan OT (di naman lagi, pag may hinahabol lang deadline).. pero meron namang meal and transpo allowance pag nag OT.. kilala din company so ok lang magtyaga para pag alis ko meron naman makikita sa resume ko... (now im earning 10x my first eve salary, thanks for my experience there..)

dude labo yong la man lang allowance pag OT.. para kang trabahador nyan na di binabayaran pag nag overtime hehe... pero if i were to choose nga in your situation ill either go with A or just find more choices, if kukuha ka lang rin ng maliit na sweldo sana sa company na magbebenefit ka sa future.

[guest_1110]

^ no... actually, both companies are known. option A, believe it or not, sobrang kilala yan dito sa Pilipinas. it is a BIG company... kaya nga rin maliit sweldo eh. option B naman, it's part of the top 20 in its "line" worlwide. kaya if basing sa name ng companies... both are equal. :)

sa job description... yeah more on encoding ata talaga yung sa option A. ganon din yung kilala kong nagwowork sa multinational eh... more on encoding talaga.

[Yashiro]

^ no... actually, both companies are known. option A, believe it or not, sobrang kilala yan dito sa Pilipinas. it is a BIG company... kaya nga rin maliit sweldo eh. option B naman, it's part of the top 20 in its "line" worlwide. kaya if basing sa name ng companies... both are equal. :)

sa job description... yeah more on encoding ata talaga yung sa option A. ganon din yung kilala kong nagwowork sa multinational eh... more on encoding talaga.

15k pesos was my first salary, mababa na yun dahil may tax pa ko 2k lol so 13k lang sahod ko talaga, eto lang dude ah, that was 4 yrs ago.. TUMAAS naman sana siguro mga offer sa fresh grads by now? lol

[guest_1110]

most companies din na i know don't have an OT pay. or if meron... susko may catch. like kungyari you have to stay 3hrs OT muna bago ka mabayaran.

hmmm ok naman pala yung 1st job mo eh, 15k. actually kung may mag-offer sakn ng 15k tapos hindi ganun ka-hectic... i'll get that. kaya lang yung previous offers 13.5k na yung highest.... one is super duper clerical and hindi pa related sa course ko. the other one naman is contractual. kaya i told u... tong 2 na to talaga yung best offers i've had so far.

ayoko na ata pakawalan yung P22k eh! ang laki non for a fresh grad like me!

[guest_1110]

15k pesos was my first salary, mababa na yun dahil may tax pa ko 2k lol so 13k lang sahod ko talaga, eto lang dude ah, that was 4 yrs ago.. TUMAAS naman sana siguro mga offer sa fresh grads by now? lol

no. as a matter of fact, 13.5k ang regular salary talaga ngayon. 20k is BIG. yun nga mga offer sa management trainees ng local banks eh.

if that was 4yrs ago, that's pretty big na rin. hehe congratulations!

[Yashiro]

most companies din na i know don't have an OT pay. or if meron... susko may catch. like kungyari you have to stay 3hrs OT muna bago ka mabayaran.

hmmm ok naman pala yung 1st job mo eh, 15k. actually kung may mag-offer sakn ng 15k tapos hindi ganun ka-hectic... i'll get that. kaya lang yung previous offers 13.5k na yung highest.... one is super duper clerical and hindi pa related sa course ko. the other one naman is contractual. kaya i told u... tong 2 na to talaga yung best offers i've had so far.

ayoko na ata pakawalan yung P22k eh! ang laki non for a fresh grad like me!

ganon din akin dati eh...wala OT pay, allowance lang, para makuha mo yung meal allowance you need to stay atleast 3 hrs, yung transpo allowance naman para makuha mo you need to stay atleast 5 hrs. so stay nalang ako 6 hrs para 2 meal allowance at 1 transpo allowance LOL...

wala na gano pay ng OT ngayon eh, puro allowance lang... na may minimum time...

[Yashiro]

no. as a matter of fact, 13.5k ang regular salary talaga ngayon. 20k is BIG. yun nga mga offer sa management trainees ng local banks eh.

if that was 4yrs ago, that's pretty big na rin. hehe congratulations!

actually it was not big at all:depressed: my colleagues at that time got jobs for 18k, 20k, 23k.. so i'm kinda at the low end...

pero un nga siguro tyaga ka muna sa 22k, if you decide to leave galingan mo nalang sa next job hunting mo (mind you mas mablis maghanap ng work pag may atleast 2 years experience), galingan mo nalang sa interview doon and ipakita mo sa kanila na kaya mo maging flexible at mablis matuto ng mga bagay bagay and willing to learn... bola bola lang yan and for sure makukuha ka and hopefully get an offer twice your previous salary *okay*

and on a side note: i think naman magaling kang individual, balita ko mahirap maghanap ng work ngayon, marami rin companies nagtatanggal, dami rin di tumatanggap towards the end of the year because of the fiscal budget... malamang magaling ka kaya congrats narin, hirap maghanap ng work ngayon from what i hear..

[guest_1110]

haha thanks! yeah... PATIENCE for two years. ok lang un... 264k gross in two years? not bad para sa mga stress na madudulot. wala pa dun yung Christmas bonus! siguro tuwing sisigawan ako dun... iisipin ko na lang yung 22k and everything will be alright! :))

i agree with your status ah... go la salle wahaha! ;)

[oregano]

hmmm.. citi business services ba yung MNC na tinutukoy mo, by any chance? :)

ako i think TRAINING is very important sa first job. Siyempre it's important na magaling yung company na mag train sayo. Ok **** yung MNCs sa training. However, if clerical lang talaga yung work I'm not sure if this will increase your skills set in such a way that will increase your market value. For example, call center companies/BPO companies, they give high starting rates and they are technically multinational companies. Pero the skills you learn as an agent won't allow you to climb the corporate ladder.

Basta it's important that you choose the one that will lead you sa kung saan mo talaga gusto. If you really see yourself in a research based position years from now, then by all means take the 10k job. Nakakasilaw nga ang 22k salary, and your dad is right. It might affect your future salary. Pero kung di naman related yung 2nd job mo sa 1st job mo, di rin naman nila yun gagawing basis for salary.

Hay, ang hirap noh? Dami talagang things to consider as a fresh grad! Although gasgas na yung kasabihan na you have to find a job that you love to do, tama talaga sya. Actually just find a job that you don't hate to do, and I think you'll be fine.

[ladiesman807]

there are two job offers:

JOB OFFER A:
- multinational company
- 9am-6pm lang talaga. pero since multinational nga, ang regular uwian na talaga is mga 8-9pm. sometimes inuumaga pa!
- no overtime pay!
-the job is really clerical... you know... encoding in the computer, stuffs like that.
- the pay is around P22k a month!

JOB OFFER B:
- local company
- 8:30am-5:30pm. regular uwian is around 6-7pm. pero for sure hindi aabutin ng umaga!
-no overtime pay din!
- the job is much better. mas hindi clerical since you get to research and analyze data. pero may clerical din
- the pay is around P10k a month


what will you guys choose?



WALA!!!! :glee:

*peace*

[guest_1110]

hmmm.. citi business services ba yung MNC na tinutukoy mo, by any chance? :)

ako i think TRAINING is very important sa first job. Siyempre it's important na magaling yung company na mag train sayo. Ok **** yung MNCs sa training. However, if clerical lang talaga yung work I'm not sure if this will increase your skills set in such a way that will increase your market value. For example, call center companies/BPO companies, they give high starting rates and they are technically multinational companies. Pero the skills you learn as an agent won't allow you to climb the corporate ladder.

Basta it's important that you choose the one that will lead you sa kung saan mo talaga gusto. If you really see yourself in a research based position years from now, then by all means take the 10k job. Nakakasilaw nga ang 22k salary, and your dad is right. It might affect your future salary. Pero kung di naman related yung 2nd job mo sa 1st job mo, di rin naman nila yun gagawing basis for salary.

Hay, ang hirap noh? Dami talagang things to consider as a fresh grad! Although gasgas na yung kasabihan na you have to find a job that you love to do, tama talaga sya. Actually just find a job that you don't hate to do, and I think you'll be fine.

Hey, thanks! That's a good advice ah. :)

No, it's not CBS. I can also assure you that the multinational company is not a call center either, although uuwi nga kami ng late. The job title is not clerical pero the work is more on encoding in the system. I think this is a common job naman for fresh grad di ba?

For the lower salary job, I was thinking na baka clerical din naman yung ipagawa sa'kn dun eh. Hindi ko naman feel na isasabak na nila ko sa research dun... since it is a big company din talaga. I'm sure more on paperworks din papagawa nila sa'kn.

My prob here is yung pag-uwi ng super late and yung pagiging workaholic ng mga tao, especially dun sa multinational company. Pero as my dad's been telling me... lahat na raw ganun... better na dun na ko sa malaki ang sweldo.

How about you? Kamusta naman ang job mo?

[guest_1110]

WALA!!!! :glee:

*peace*


Hahaha kung pwede nga lang talaga eh. :lol:

Kaya lang tumatagal-tagal na rin ang bum days ko... kailangan ng magka-trabaho.