What happens pag nag AWOL?

[rr355u]

Just curious.... Please share your thoughts guys..

[crimson25]

pag nag awol ka, it means, di ka makakakuha ng clearance sa company na pinag-awolan mo. thus, wala kang maipe-present na clearance sa next company na lilipatan mo. unless, di mo idedeclare sa resume mo yun, hehehe.

kaya, kung nag awol ka, and you wanna declare that job in your resume, i suggest that you make peace with your previous company, file a proper resignation and do all the necessary stuff they require so you can get clearance from them. <<< yan ang thoughts ko hehehe

[Lady Ariadna]

Pano kung nag-pasa ka naman ng resignation letter pero hindi mo natapos yung pag-render mo ng 30 days? Anong mangyayari?

[nightstalker_08]

hindi ka macclear sa company na pinasukan mo.. unless hindi mo ilalagay sa resume na nagwork ka dun.. para safe! but I recommend na magpass ka ng resignation letter 30 day notice (as mandated ng DOLE) para at least makahanap sila ng papalit sa iyo and work ethics na din on the part of the company.. siguro naman kahit parang impyerno ka na sa work na yun e tinanggap ka naman nila ng maayos di ba? unless puro ka kalokohan sa work na yun like nag NCNS ka (or basta bsta ka umabsent or No Call No Show) mga ganun. tsaka baka maging pangit na impression din sayo ng ibang companies un lalo na pag kukuha ka ng Certificate of Employment tapos nakalagay sa reason ng resignation mo e due to AWOL dba? dyahe sa part of the next company na papasukan mo..

ang usual na nag A-AWOL e yung mga taong makapal ang mukha na parang underwear lang kung magpalit ng companies dahil sa dami ng reklamo (ex: Call Center Agents na gusto mataas ang sahod at benefits) bato bato sa langit ang tamaan, 3 pts. este wag magagalit. tsaka *** mga taong nahihiya nang pumasok dahil sa NCNS na hindi naman nila sinasadya.

Sana kung mag-AAWOL ka.. wag mo na lagay sa resume mo na nagwork ka dun para safe. ok?

::peace:: that's my opinion!

[jinxxs17]

my experience naman sa first call center ko ay nung nagpasa ako ng resignation paper ko hindi tinanggap, immediate resignation yun kasi alam ko nmaan na pwede dahil marami ng gumawa nun. e di ako pinapayagan mag resign ng TL namin kasi yata eh babagsak ang metric nya, kaya nag awol/ncns ako. naka received ako ng letter of termination due to ncns. pero nabigyan naman ako ng clearance and certificate of employment after one month at wala naman naka indicate dun na due to awol/ncns ako. naka declare din yun sa resume ko na nag work ako dun sa company na yun and wala naman ako naging problem sa sumunod na work ko. di nga lang siguro ako pwede bumalik sa company na yun...

[crimson25]

^^hehe, good for you. ang nakakatakot lang kasi, if the company who'll be hiring you does extensive background checks and the like. if they find out kasi that you are terminated, i'm guessing, mag aalangan ang isang company na i-hire ang isang applicant. but, if you have a valid reason for what you did kaya ka tinerminate, and the company you transferred to is broad minded and understanding, then, as proven by you, matatanggap ka pa rin as long as nakakuha ka ng clearance from your previous company.

but, in general, it's advisable talaga not to go awol para walang hassle sa paghanap ng next job. ;)

[johnmaxwell]

Depende sa company policy. I know of one case na nag-AWOL without finishing the required 30 days notice, dinemanda sya ng company with the grounds na naapektuhan yung operations due to lack of turnover.

Nasa labor law kasi yung 30 days notice rule, although some companies only implement 15 days.

Better to follow the rules na lang.

[spiceboy!]

pwede nila ilagay yon sa COE mo....Failed to render 30 day notice etc etc. Ilalagay din nila sa 201 mo

There are companies that would terminate you if you reached a certain number of days on AWOL. Ex. 5 days straight

[Lady Ariadna]

Ah ok, hehehe... Kasi ginawa ko na yun e. Hindi ko natapos yung 30 days. And hindi ko naman nilalagay sa resume ko na galing ako sa company na yun, to be safe.

Dapat ba makaka-tanggap ka ng letter na terminated ka na kung hindi ka pumasok ng 5 days straight? Also, diba hindi mo na dina makukuha yung sweldo mo?

[|wyatt|]

In terms of work ethic, I think it's better to file a formal resignation to your employer. If your TL did not allow you to resign, then you could have gone to the next level. You have your SMs, OMs, or better yet, go straight to your company's HR. HR and Operations sometimes oppose each other in terms of decisions.

From what I know, if you have contributions to SSS via that company, then most likely it would be part of your records. Plus you also have the 201 File as an employee.

Thus, if your next employer would make an extensive background check, they could go ahead and check it with your SSS previous employers.

Bottom line is, better file a formal resignation than go on AWOL whether it's 30-day tenure or more.

Now, if they're gonna ask why you did not include your previous company in your CV would be another thing.

Just an opinion. Peace! Ü

[stupid_staff]

What if they terminated you because of releasing of calls? Do I still get a COE and by the way what's a 201 file?

[rr355u]

If nag AWOL ka ba sa isang company, does it mean na hindi ka na talaga makakabalik sa company na yon kahit sa ibang province ka pa mag.apply? What if you worked in a call center sa Visayas region at nag AWOL ka tas nag.apply ka ulit sa same na company pero nasa Luzon, mattrace pa rin ba nila na galing ka pala sa isang center nila kahit na hindi mo ideclare?

[spiceboy!]

What if they terminated you because of releasing of calls? Do I still get a COE and by the way what's a 201 file?

I think you will still get one but not sure though what would be written on it. 201 File is a repository of your records while you were with that company.

[Milliardo]

Pano kung nag-pasa ka naman ng resignation letter pero hindi mo natapos yung pag-render mo ng 30 days? Anong mangyayari?

AFAIK you're still considered resigned, not AWOL, since you already gave the letter and I would assume you also signed the resignation form.

[|wyatt|]

If nag AWOL ka ba sa isang company, does it mean na hindi ka na talaga makakabalik sa company na yon kahit sa ibang province ka pa mag.apply? What if you worked in a call center sa Visayas region at nag AWOL ka tas nag.apply ka ulit sa same na company pero nasa Luzon, mattrace pa rin ba nila na galing ka pala sa isang center nila kahit na hindi mo ideclare?


I would like to say yes, at least from the company that I'm into right now. CVG in Cebu and CVG in Ortigas would most likely have ONE connection, the same as eTelecare Cebu and eTelecare Clark for example.

[|wyatt|]

Pano kung nag-pasa ka naman ng resignation letter pero hindi mo natapos yung pag-render mo ng 30 days? Anong mangyayari?

AFAIK, technically, you're still associated with the company until the effectivity of your resignation, thus, if you submitted your letter January 1, and it's agreed that you need to render 30 days, then you are still with the company until January 30. Officially, you'd be out January 31.

Hence, if you did not render the whole 30 days, and you decide not to go to work, it's still AWOL.

Well, speaking from experience, I know an agent who's resigned but was terminated because he did not show up after in the 30-day grace period. They sent him an RTWO and NOT after not reporting to work.

It's not an immediate resignation after all.:bop:

[Milliardo]

AFAIK, technically, you're still associated with the company until the effectivity of your resignation, thus, if you submitted your letter January 1, and it's agreed that you need to render 30 days, then you are still with the company until January 30. Officially, you'd be out January 31.

Hence, if you did not render the whole 30 days, and you decide not to go to work, it's still AWOL.

Well, speaking from experience, I know an agent who's resigned but was terminated because he did not show up after in the 30-day grace period. They sent him an RTWO and NOT after not reporting to work.

It's not an immediate resignation after all.:bop:

It's a case-to-case basis: if you resigned due to health, AFAIK you're not obliged to render 30 days' notice as the company would be liable if anything happens to you, and no company would like that to happen. It also depends from company to company: some companies are strict on this, while others are quite complacent and will not mind for as long as you tender your resignation. Best thing to do is to know your company's policy regarding this matter--ask those who resigned before, ask your TL, ask HR.

[Lady Ariadna]

Well, speaking from experience, I know an agent who's resigned but was terminated because he did not show up after in the 30-day grace period. They sent him an RTWO and NOT after not reporting to work.

If you haven't received any letter or memo of sorts, are you considered terminated or resigned?

[Milliardo]

If you haven't received any letter or memo of sorts, are you considered terminated or resigned?

As long as you don't receive any memo, then that's good. Give your resignation before you receive anything.

[Lady Ariadna]

Well, I gave my resignation letter signed by me, my TL and OM. Then I was able to render about 11 days. Then I stopped going to work and after that, I haven't received any phone calls, texts, letters or memos from them. So, am I considered resigned?

[Milliardo]

Well, I gave my resignation letter signed by me, my TL and OM. Then I was able to render about 11 days. Then I stopped going to work and after that, I haven't received any phone calls, texts, letters or memos from them. So, am I considered resigned?

Depends. No memo, then I would think that you're good as resigned, but try to ask HR or your TL to be sure. If you're close to your TL and/or know someone from HR, then they should be able to fix your problem.

[|wyatt|]

It's a case-to-case basis: if you resigned due to health, AFAIK you're not obliged to render 30 days' notice as the company would be liable if anything happens to you, and no company would like that to happen. It also depends from company to company: some companies are strict on this, while others are quite complacent and will not mind for as long as you tender your resignation. Best thing to do is to know your company's policy regarding this matter--ask those who resigned before, ask your TL, ask HR.

Yup it is definitely going to be a case-to-case basis. Generally though, that's the scenario.

If your reason in your resignation letter is because of health, and you emphasized on this as main reason you are leaving the company, and you really wanted to file an immediate resignation, I think the company would let your resignation be effective immediately or at the most 15 days.

Well I am working in a company that is strict in terms of this.

i have a confession to make, I am the one who's responsible for the termination of the agent who did not show up before the effectivity of the resignation.
That's 3 days of no notification that he would be absent, sent him the RTWO, 2 days after, still not heard from him, NOT was sent.

Crucify me. hehehe:)

[|wyatt|]

If you haven't received any letter or memo of sorts, are you considered terminated or resigned?

What do you mean letter of memo? Memo of termination?

RTWO - Return to Work Order
NOT - Notice of Termination

[|wyatt|]

Well, I gave my resignation letter signed by me, my TL and OM. Then I was able to render about 11 days. Then I stopped going to work and after that, I haven't received any phone calls, texts, letters or memos from them. So, am I considered resigned?

Milliardo is correct, as long as you did not receive any memo. However, if you received a memo, say an NOT. That's another story.

[pallidaMors]

Guys, pwede bang mag immediate resignation pag lagi ka nang may pharyngitis (as in literally, hindi na ata matanggal, gusto ko na magpahinga)? Mahirap kasi magwork na masakit ang lalamunan... I'm thinking kung OK lang na reason yun para makapag-resign kagad...

[Lady Ariadna]

Milliardo is correct, as long as you did not receive any memo. However, if you received a memo, say an NOT. That's another story.

Well, I haven't received any RTWO or NOT. So, you think resigned na ang status ko dun? If so, pwede ko pa lang ilagay sa resume ko yun. :confused:

[Milliardo]

Guys, pwede bang mag immediate resignation pag lagi ka nang may pharyngitis (as in literally, hindi na ata matanggal, gusto ko na magpahinga)? Mahirap kasi magwork na masakit ang lalamunan... I'm thinking kung OK lang na reason yun para makapag-resign kagad...

In my case, it was immediate resignation because of hypertension--it alarmed even our OM so much that he talked to me about it and did say that in my case, the resignation would have to be immediate as the concern is life-threatening (180/130 bp is very high). I am not sure about your case, though you can argue that since in the industry the voice is a necessity, further complication with your condition will result in poor performance. Though I think you might be given the option to do backroom work, or else transfer you to a non-voice account (if you have one).

[LabuyoXVIII]

Guys, pwede bang mag immediate resignation pag lagi ka nang may pharyngitis (as in literally, hindi na ata matanggal, gusto ko na magpahinga)? Mahirap kasi magwork na masakit ang lalamunan... I'm thinking kung OK lang na reason yun para makapag-resign kagad...

Well, pwede kung alam ng management na lagi kang may pharyngitis at hindi na talaga matanggal. Or, in the management viewpoint, they can also try to assign you with non-phone work or a non-phone position kung meron ang company niyo ng ganun.

[pallidaMors]

In my case, it was immediate resignation because of hypertension--it alarmed even our OM so much that he talked to me about it and did say that in my case, the resignation would have to be immediate as the concern is life-threatening (180/130 bp is very high). I am not sure about your case, though you can argue that since in the industry the voice is a necessity, further complication with your condition will result in poor performance. Though I think you might be given the option to do backroom work, or else transfer you to a non-voice account (if you have one).

Unfortunately, walang non-voice account sa company namin. May hinahanap pa bang documents (like medical whatever), at pwede bang mag apply sa non-voice account kahit na nakapag-resign na ako? Baka kasi hindi ako tanggapin ng "non-voice-account-company" dahil sa dahilan narin na yun. :(

[pallidaMors]

Well, pwede kung alam ng management na lagi kang may pharyngitis at hindi na talaga matanggal. Or, in the management viewpoint, they can also try to assign you with non-phone work or a non-phone position kung meron ang company niyo ng ganun.

I see... you think the company will really be that generous to spare and assign me to a non-phone work? Sana nga posible yan. 6 times ata ako nagka-acute tonsillopharyngitis last year and 2 incidents na this year knowing na January palang. Saklap no? Ayoko rin kasi ipa-alis yung tonsils ko kasi sabi ng doctor hindi naman assurance yun na hindi na ko magkakaroon ng pharyngitis.

[archer_03]

meron lang ako question para sa mga nagAWOL na.. nagAWOL ako for 3 days na.. kasi namamatay nko dun sa account na napuntahan ko.. first call center ko yun at 3 weeks lang ako nagcalls.. nagtry naman ako magresign, pero hindi ako pinayagan.. ang question ko, kapag nagapply ba ako sa ibang call center, hindi ko nalang ba imention na nag call center nko? ok lang ba yun? hindi ba nila malalaman? mas gusto ko sana sabihin nalang upfront na nagAWOL ako.. pero ano ba mas ok gawin? please help.. sobrang kinakabahan ako...:confused:

[Ichophone]

meron lang ako question para sa mga nagAWOL na.. nagAWOL ako for 3 days na.. kasi namamatay nko dun sa account na napuntahan ko.. first call center ko yun at 3 weeks lang ako nagcalls.. nagtry naman ako magresign, pero hindi ako pinayagan.. ang question ko, kapag nagapply ba ako sa ibang call center, hindi ko nalang ba imention na nag call center nko? ok lang ba yun? hindi ba nila malalaman? mas gusto ko sana sabihin nalang upfront na nagAWOL ako.. pero ano ba mas ok gawin? please help.. sobrang kinakabahan ako...:confused:

I am on the same boat, actually 2 days lang ako nag calls then i AWOL-d. Hindi ko kinaya yung stress nung byahe+yung actual work inisip ko i'd better quit now or else magiging pabigat lang ako pag nagkataon. However ang kinaiba is nag AWOL ako when i was still in training. I was lucky enough to have a really nice TL, kinontact niya ako to ask if i'm going to continue with the company or not in which i promptly answered no. Sabi niya ilalagay na lang niya e nag-resign ako. Halos 3 months na pero wala pa rin akong nakukuhang memo of any kind, ni kontact e-mail or phone call from the company.

Like archer_03 i'm wondering if i should just keep mum about this "stint" that i had. Malalaman ba ng a-applyan ko na bago if ever?. Gusto ko pa man din nang mag apply sa non-voice na. Been months already and wala na halos akong pera. :(

[James Richard08]

I would like to share my thoughts regarding AWOL.

Matatawag na Awol if nag absent ka and never mong advised your immediate superior. Pero accdg sa Labor Code, di ganuun kadaling matanggal pag regular employee ka. HR personnel should exert extra effort like sending for 3 consecutive days a letter or memo explaining baket di ka pumapasok...... or return to work order from the HR. If still you didn't respond, thats the only time na AWOL ka.

[James Richard08]

if the TL or Supervisor signed your resignation letter at wala naman sinabi, it means Resigned na kayo... esp pag pinirmahan na ang clearance ninyo...

Tips na nagreresign ...

Ilagay sa resignation letter: "irrevocable " Ante date you letter if necessary....

[moosh]

I am on the same boat, actually 2 days lang ako nag calls then i AWOL-d. Hindi ko kinaya yung stress nung byahe+yung actual work inisip ko i'd better quit now or else magiging pabigat lang ako pag nagkataon. However ang kinaiba is nag AWOL ako when i was still in training. I was lucky enough to have a really nice TL, kinontact niya ako to ask if i'm going to continue with the company or not in which i promptly answered no. Sabi niya ilalagay na lang niya e nag-resign ako. Halos 3 months na pero wala pa rin akong nakukuhang memo of any kind, ni kontact e-mail or phone call from the company.

Like archer_03 i'm wondering if i should just keep mum about this "stint" that i had. Malalaman ba ng a-applyan ko na bago if ever?. Gusto ko pa man din nang mag apply sa non-voice na. Been months already and wala na halos akong pera. :(

may kilala ako lagi nag-AAWOL pero nakakakuha pa rin sya ng work at sa malalaking call centers pa. hindi nya nilalagay sa resume yung mga previous work nya. he worked for 3 months at Sykes, then 3 months at Teletech tapos ngayon na sa e-telecare sya. Akala ko nga di sya lulusot sa e-telecare dahil mahigpit dun pero 6 months na sya dun ngayon, hehe. I wonder kung nag-babackground check ba talaga o dahil na din sa dami ng applicants di na nila magawa mag-background check. yung wife naman nya 1 year sa ang call center sa ortigas and properly resigned naman pero di daw nya nilagay sa resume nya kasi mas mahirap daw ang interview kapag may call center experience na. she's now with e-telecare as well. since 2-days ka lang nagcalls, pde na siguro di ilagay sa resume. i'm sure makakahanap ka pa ng work but next time it's always better to resign properly.

[princ3sz]

hmm if sa ibang center mahigpit ang background check...but they are going to ask you about it pa din and hear your side.

i had a teammate na hindi niya dineclare na nagwork siya sa center na 'to.,pero yung HR kinausap siya and tinanong why and what happened why did he leave.can be traced lahat using your SSS number kasi.

hmm it would be better if you'd sign your resignation and irrevocable (as stated above by another poster). and if asked by your would-be employer why did you leave, just tell them hindi mo nagustuhan yung palakad, or yung product or whatever man maisip mo. it matters kung ano yung isasagot mo sa kanila once you're asked.

have a good excuse.most probably you'd still get hired.

pero masama pa din yan ha.at least magpaalam ka man lang sa TL mo or sa OM mo.hehe.

[unlimitedlugaw]

What if nag-AWOL ka pero nakakontrata ka pa rin sa company? Hindi ba maghahabol ang company or hindi ba sila kakasuhan? Hehe!

[fridazza]

question po:

i resigned na sa company ko ngayon kaya lang we signed a contract na dapat 3 months notice. ang nilagay ko sa resignation letter ko is 1 month lang and sabi ng boss ko, I signed the contract and i should follow it, kasi pag hindi raw, i will not be cleared.

kaya lang i am required na to start one month from now sa other company. alam nila na 3 months yun waiting ko and kung hindi raw ako makakapagstart sa given start date, ibibgay daw sa iba yung post and / or icoconsider daw ako sa ibang position which is magiging bagong application daw.

so what will happen po ba to me if didn't finish the 3 months notice period stipulated sa contract? well, tatapusin ko yung 1 month pero yung months is AWOL na. advise pls. thank you

[toxxxic]

elo everyone! need help lang po regarding sa situation ko.. sana may makasagot sa mga questions ko...

I tried to pass a resignation letter na 2weeks notification lang. tinanong ko pa yung TL ko kung OK lang ba yun since ang nakalagay nga sa handbook ay 30 days dapat. sbi nya paguusapan daw ng boss nya yun and we’ll see what will happen. then after 1 week, akala ko naman approved na kasi wala malapit na yung effective date ng resignation ko. then I found out lang na di pala approved dahil dapat daw 30 days nga. he asked me kung gusto ko talagang magresign eh magpasa ako mg medical certificate. ang problem kasi wala akong nakuhang medical certificate kasi ayaw naman akong bigyan ng mga doctors since I am not sick daw. kaya nagAWOL na lang ako sa call center na to pero natapos ko naman yung 4 months na minimum stay so I don’t have to pay any bond.. and last week I received a RTWO from them.. and then akala ko after ng letter na yun eh NOT na ang matatanggap ko.. pero I just received a letter yesterday na dapat daw magreport ako sa kanila for an administrative hearing/conference regarding sa unauthorized absences ko.. pero siyempre wala naman na akong balak magpakita sa kanila kasi sesermonan lang naman ako. I thought lang kasi na terminated na ako after not reporting dun sa allotted time na binigay nila sa RTWO.

nagAWOL lang naman ako kasi very stressful talaga yung job and nagsasawa na talaga ako sa calls. and also I have a better offer sa ibang company pero different field. pero don’t get me wrong, tumaas ang respect ko sa mga agents dahil sa work experience na to. akala ko din kasi madali lang maging isang call center agent, pero napasubo ako kaya naman naisip ko na magresign nlng sa work.


and here are my questions...

1. im scared lang na baka kasuhan nila ako.. pero natapos ko naman yung 4 months contract or minimum stay so wala akong bond na babayaran.. yun nga lang hindi ako nakapagrender ng 30days na notice for resignation.. can the company sue me for that?

2. I have read sa mga ibang posts dito na yung mga agents na nagAWOL na pinagbabayad ng company ng bond ay nahihirapan kumuha ng NBI clearance kasi may nakalagay daw sa clearance na may utang pa sila sa company.. will it be the same in my case? I mean mailalagay din ba sa NBI clearance na nagAWOL ako?

3. I also read this post sa isang site:

“if you don't care about getting your backpay, employment certificate and such you can always go on AWOL to skip the bond...just make sure that the company you are transferring to is not near or not a member of the same org like CCAP.”

-so is it OK lang talaga in my case to just ignore the letters the call center is sending me?


thanks po in advance sa mga makakasagot :)

[aicirtap_28]

What do you mean letter of memo? Memo of termination?

RTWO - Return to Work Order
NOT - Notice of Termination
hello po.i used to be a tsr sa cc sa makati and kahit nakakahiya sabihin i went awol kasi super hindi ko na kinaya yun pressure and all nun una excited ako to work sa cc pero as days passed at simula nun mapunta ako sa bago ko tl nag-iba na...what i did was hindi na lang ako nagreport for work the next day..to make it short nakatanggap ako ng rtwo nun una kasi bbgyan ka nila ng chance to submit for a written explanation why you committed multiple absences eh hindi ako nagrespond after ilang days notice of termination na..do you guys think meron ako record nyan like for example sa nbi?kasi hindi ko pa narerenew clearance ko eh and i'm planning to apply local jobs uli pero hindi na cc..thank you po sa makakasagot.nawalan ako ng gana din mag-apply sa cc lalo when i met yun tl ko.:(hindi sana ako aalis na lang bigla eh kaso pressured talaga ako..