[BESTS of the BESTS] TOP I.T. Companies In The Country

[OctopusKonek]

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The following are the Top 15 Highest Paying IT Corporation in the Philippines.

Feel free to rearrange the items according to what you think and know is the much better sequencing.

01> Hewlett-Packard Philippines
02> Oracle Philippines
03> Lawson Philippines
04> Smart Communications
05> Azeus Philippines
06> Soluziona Philippines
07> Misys Philippines
08> Safeway Philtech
09> IBM Philippines
10> Headstrong Philippines
11> TrendMicro
12> Accenture Philippines
13> Canon Philippines
14> Lakeside Technologies
15> Novare Technologies

[Vicxtel]

I'll rank some companies that I know and (some) been with..

1. Lawson (nice nice nice)
2. Oracle (generous sa offers)
3. JP Morgan (sa IT ito ha, generous din gyahahaha!)
3. Macquarie (check out the Macquarie thread, yayaman ka dito)
4. Safeway Philtech
5. IBM Philippines
6. Smart Communications (most excellent benefits but Basic pay is way low compared to the first five)

[Vicxtel]

Mali numbering! Eto:
1. Lawson (nice nice nice)
2. Oracle (generous sa offers)
3. JP Morgan (sa IT ito ha, generous din gyahahaha!)
4. Macquarie (check out the Macquarie thread, yayaman ka dito)
5. IBM
6. Safeway Philtech
7. Smart Communications (most excellent benefits but Basic pay is way low compared to the first six)

[TrendMike]

Mali numbering! Eto:
1. Lawson (nice nice nice)
2. Oracle (generous sa offers)
3. JP Morgan (sa IT ito ha, generous din gyahahaha!)
4. Macquarie (check out the Macquarie thread, yayaman ka dito)
5. IBM
6. Safeway Philtech
7. Smart Communications (most excellent benefits but Basic pay is way low compared to the first six)

Anymore details about the "nice nice nice" for Lawson and about your views on IBM and SMART? Thanks dude

[Vicxtel]

^
I'm currently with Lawson (nice peeps, salary and working environment), got a couple of friends in IBM, and I've been with Smart -that's why hehe.

[cheapstalk96]

Just for us to have a healthy conversation in here, kindly give some details and reasons behind your ratings and rankings. Please give clear and concrete narrations and information, such as why CompanyNumber one is better than CompanyNumber two, why *this* company is only in number 8, etc., etc., etc.. This is a free-flowing thread I suppose. :bop:

[aquintz]

nice post.. really helpful to those people who are unemployed like me.. ive tried applying to some of the companies posted above but unfortunately, lahat sila are undergoing retrenchment.. sana swertehin.. hehe..:D:mecry:

[dj_ouch]

Just for us to have a healthy conversation in here, kindly give some details and reasons behind your ratings and rankings. Please give clear and concrete narrations and information, such as why CompanyNumber one is better than CompanyNumber two, why *this* company is only in number 8, etc., etc., etc.. This is a free-flowing thread I suppose. :bop:

Looks like an HR is making a survey :lol:

[greywolf]

^yeah and that is the sad part...
these considered "best of the bests" IT companies are the ones undergoing retrenchmencts...

was the global crisis came that fast that these companies were not able to predict or calculated their needs for resources and somewhat mishandled it, and having more resources than necessary for their projects...kaya ayun tinanggal na lang, kesa tumambay at paswelduhin ng ala ginagawa...

accenture was aggressively mass hiring mid way last year, and was cutting jobs months later...

back to topic...

smart and accenture has good benefits...
though mas higher ang starting salary sa accenture by a few thousands...

yun dalawa lang ang meron akong idea eh...hehehe

but i'll put these companies as my top in no particular order...
the reason, mga sabi sabi lang na naririnig ko...
hehehe...

Accenture
Lawson
IBM
HP
Oracle
Azeus

[cheapstalk96]

Looks like an HR is making a survey :lol:

^Hahaha! Pagkamalan ba kong HR :love: I just think that this thread would be very much helpful to others kaia parang masaya buhayin :P anyway, aun, RATE AND RANK PEOPLE!!! :love: Rearrange, Rearrange, Rearrange AND EXPLAIN. :love:

[TiendesistasRat]

This is an interesting discussion...

For Salary:
1.IBM
2.SMART
3.LAWSON
4.AZEUS
5.ACCENTURE

Accenture, they give high salary DEPENDING ON THE POSITION. Their Entry-level salary offer could be very low, same case with Smart, but once you climb up the career ladder, their pay and future pay could get you somewhere. They might be considered thrifty for the newly grads, but then, when you get hired, and has already earned the right and sufficient exposure, experience, and training under them, then you can expect a gallant compensation package along your career ladder as you climb up.

Azeus pays well specially for their programmers, the thing in this company is that they are into hardcore programing, most often than not, they will fully utilize your skills and push you towards your limits. This is Good for others, bad for some.

Lawson pays better since they have the what we call tax barrier or tax shield. This company is not really into hardcore programming but still, challenges are present. ALLOWANCE and FUN are two words that would describe this company in terms of the monetary thing.

Smart pays really good but not in terms of the monthly income of employees. It is in terms of the annual income. The monthly basic pay is VERY low compared with other big companies, but they can give out as much as upto 18-20th month pay. During interviews, they would tell you that it could be upto 22nd-25th month pay, but honestly, that'll only come once in a blue moon. the average would be upto 18th month pay. Not bad at all!

IBM, as far as i am concerned, pays the highest in terms of the overtime pay. If you can work for really long hours and stay on your assignment in the office, then you can even receive twice of your basic pay at the end of the month. the biggest smile for this is that overtime pays are not taxable.


In terms of the companies that could offer their employees colors and edge with fun and great life-experience, here is my ranking.

1. MISYS
2. LAWSON
3. ACCENTURE
4. IBM
5. SAFEWAY PHILTECH
6. HP

Well, on the 6th place is Hewllett-Packard. They have cool offices, work peers are witty and mostly fun to be with, but the downfall in here is the ever shifting schedule.

Well, Misys is the company to be with if you're into more fun while learning. But mind you, the training and work in here can get kinda rough as well.


There could be alot of categories and ways to rank and rate companies but if there is this ULTIMATE AWARD, I'd give it to not just a single company, I think as for my part, there would be a triple tie.

X. IBM
X. LAWSON
X. ACCENTURE

IBM, Three things; Prestige, Fame and Reputation (They have them).
LAWSON, Three things; Pay, People, Experience (All are great).
Accenture, Three things; Work, Balance, Fun (They can give you these).

I didn't bother to proofread my post na a, bahala nalang kayo mag-pasensya if ever my discrepancies and typographical mistakes.

Share your ideas and opinions.

[fortinbrass]

Macquarie is not an IT company, its a global investment bank based in Australia. :)

[TheEndofDays]

"Well, on the 6th place is Hewllett-Packard. They have cool offices, work peers are witty and mostly fun to be with, but the downfall in here is the ever shifting schedule"

Why do put negative on the "shifting schedule" remember you are working in a global company so expect you work on the different time. What if the all of the clients are US and you work at their time; would you still work with even the pay is triple? with great benefits

HP is better than Accenture and Lawson
This can be proven on today's time the stability of the company. HP did not downsize but Lawson and Accenture did

HP is at par with IBM

BTW, I am not from HP

Why not include local companies
I consider one that's IPVG

[kaningbrown]

"Well, on the 6th place is Hewllett-Packard. They have cool offices, work peers are witty and mostly fun to be with, but the downfall in here is the ever shifting schedule"

Why do put negative on the "shifting schedule" remember you are working in a global company so expect you work on the different time. What if the all of the clients are US and you work at their time; would you still work with even the pay is triple? with great benefits

It's not always about the money.

[OctopusKonek]

Here's a new post of course.
My updated list:
01> Oracle Philippines
02> Lawson Philippines
03> Hewlett-Packard Philippines
04> Smart Communications
05> Azeus Philippines
06> Soluziona Philippines
07> IBM Philippines
08> Misys Philippines
09> Safeway Philtech
10> Headstrong Philippines
11> TrendMicro
12> Accenture Philippines
13> Canon Philippines
14> Lakeside Technologies
15> Novare Technologies

[5110]

"Well, on the 6th place is Hewllett-Packard. They have cool offices, work peers are witty and mostly fun to be with, but the downfall in here is the ever shifting schedule"

Why do put negative on the "shifting schedule" remember you are working in a global company so expect you work on the different time. What if the all of the clients are US and you work at their time; would you still work with even the pay is triple? with great benefits

HP is better than Accenture and Lawson
This can be proven on today's time the stability of the company. HP did not downsize but Lawson and Accenture did

HP is at par with IBM

BTW, I am not from HP

Why not include local companies
I consider one that's IPVG

But HP cuts a % on their employees' salary.:naughty:

[TheEndofDays]

That's about 5% on salary is not considered as downsize; better than walking out the lobby with a brown envelope

[TrendMike]

That's about 5% on salary is not considered as downsize; better than walking out the lobby with a brown envelope

Hmmm... So isn't it a thing of business downsizing? In the first place, they won't do it if they're not really affected by the crisis (of course they are... everybody is). Well, point disclosed, so according to you, (going back to the topic) HP is Better Than Lawson and Accenture.

[ice_breaker]

meron ba makakatulong sa kin mag-apply sa mga high-paying IT companies dito?

[konsan]

my opening po ba sa HP ngayon? VB.Net programmer here kahit C# kaya ko po...

[Yitzchak]

It actually depends on the criteria you wish to place.

If I was a developer on top of the list should be consultancy companies since they give more experience, training and skills.

If I were into support, then that would be the likes of HP where most of the bucks are into supporting businesses.

If I was in for the money, then hands-down, it would be the consultancy companies. Given the right skills, attitude and passion, you can earn in the 6 digit mark in less time than working for big name companies.

[OctopusKonek]

It actually depends on the criteria you wish to place.

If I was a developer on top of the list should be consultancy companies since they give more experience, training and skills.

If I were into support, then that would be the likes of HP where most of the bucks are into supporting businesses.

If I was in for the money, then hands-down, it would be the consultancy companies. Given the right skills, attitude and passion, you can earn in the 6 digit mark in less time than working for big name companies.

I definitely Agree with this :)

[LodRose]

bakit walang microsoft?

[moneybreaker]

Mali numbering! Eto:
1. Lawson (nice nice nice)
2. Oracle (generous sa offers)
3. JP Morgan (sa IT ito ha, generous din gyahahaha!)
4. Macquarie (check out the Macquarie thread, yayaman ka dito)
5. IBM
6. Safeway Philtech
7. Smart Communications (most excellent benefits but Basic pay is way low compared to the first six)


diba ok benefits sa macquarie? what about jp morgan?

[Kolmogorov]

bakit walang microsoft?


wala naman kasi masyadong IT positions ang microsoft dito sa pinas. Sales lang yung nandito and maybe a few IT skeleton crew

[it_girl09]

Originally Posted by Yitzchak View Post
It actually depends on the criteria you wish to place.

If I was a developer on top of the list should be consultancy companies since they give more experience, training and skills.

If I were into support, then that would be the likes of HP where most of the bucks are into supporting businesses.

If I was in for the money, then hands-down, it would be the consultancy companies. Given the right skills, attitude and passion, you can earn in the 6 digit mark in less time than working for big name companies

pwede ko ba malaman ano2 mga trusted na consultancy firms s pinas?para bang mga agency un?

[TheEndofDays]

Include also energy companies, they have been the most profitable business so far. Only that we hate them because of gas prices. Their IT is not to be blamed but their PRICE ANALYSTS which is not covered by IT

Chevron Shared Services (IT)
Shell Shared Services (IT)

I guess this two could replace those two Macquarie and JP Morgan

Macquarie - they are just promoting their status as ROHQ, meaning you have only a fixed of 13% tax; but the salary is not a par with industry standard only a very-very selected few.

JP Morgan - same as Macquarie and you will be working on US time Tue to Sat

[amilopro]

chevron taas salary. A friend of mine reached the 60k mark in just 3 years, and he doesnt even know muhc abot programming XD

[TrendMike]

Up for this one.
[BESTS of the BESTS] TOP I.T. Companies In The Country

[allirpa]

meron ba ditong nagwowork sa companies na yan na pwede magrefer? parefer naman. hehe :)
bs comsci fresh grad po ako. :)
maraming salamat :)

[nu_boy]

if this is re: salaries, take into account those companies that are regional headquarters thingie. which deduct 15% tax instead let's say 33%. i know HP, and azeus are like that so if they offer you lets say 50k in HP, and 50k in other company, you will get a larger take home pay in HP. also azeus have required saturday work so you have to put it into the computation as well.

do you know other companies who have this regional headquarter stuff?

[t43m4n]

Was able to experience chevron a few months ago. It seemed like a great place to work. Welfare of the employee is top priority and pay is higher than normal.

[dark_archer02]

Was able to experience chevron a few months ago. It seemed like a great place to work. Welfare of the employee is top priority and pay is higher than normal.

wow taga chevron ka.. wait taga chevron ka pa rin or umalis ka na? maganda ba IT nila run?

Include also energy companies, they have been the most profitable business so far. Only that we hate them because of gas prices. Their IT is not to be blamed but their PRICE ANALYSTS which is not covered by IT

Chevron Shared Services (IT)
Shell Shared Services (IT)

I guess this two could replace those two Macquarie and JP Morgan

Macquarie - they are just promoting their status as ROHQ, meaning you have only a fixed of 13% tax; but the salary is not a par with industry standard only a very-very selected few.

JP Morgan - same as Macquarie and you will be working on US time Tue to Sat

yep he has a point maganda rin sa shared services or IT support pero more on business process sila run hindi masyadong developer yung magiging career..

anyway given yung mga IT support diyan san ba pinakamaganda? compensation, benefits, workload, social life hahaha, application process at kung anu ano pa... salamat..

p&g
chevron
shell
macquarie
hp
misys
safeway

[TrendMike]

Up For This :)

[cleinz1208]

Ok ba sa Prime Tech? consulting company **...wala sa mga lists nio, pero just want an info. tnx

[speedcuber]

Hmm.... in terms of pay... based from people I personally know, highest paying IT companies are

1.) IBM (for experienced hires only, my fomer lessor works here, he's a java programmer ). Unfortunately, mababa pay ng fresh grads since kailangan pa magtrain. But when you've gained the needed skills and certifications, taas ng suweldo mo, sobra.

2.) Chevron (sobrang hirap makapasok dito, you need to have the proper skills/certifications) A friend of mine who's a UP Summa Cum laude currently works here, and sobrang taas ng pay niya... So, unless Summa Cum Laude ka, or bibo ka nung college, mahirap makapasok.

3.) HP - Kung fresh grad ka and nangangarap ka sumuweldo ng above P45K, at magaganda naman ang grades mo, apply at HP <disclaimer: siyempre, depende pa rin sa qualifications mo, and kung suwerteng mapunta ka sa Americas shift>.

[TrendMike]

^#3 is a myth :)

[acero]

^#2 It may also depend on how you present your resume and the way you answer each question on the interview. I had been considered for a position here. I graduated from a State University in Manila and I had a failing grade during college.

[xiaoran0906]

Hi everyone. Does anyone know the contact details of HP Makati. I've been interviewed for a data management position last month, until now, *** pa ring update sa status of my application? Will HP notify you if you fail or pass the interview?:)

[gothiccreed]

In my opinion..

IBM - you'll learn a lot of documentation, process development and project management here. Yung friend ko na CCNA halos wala daw kino-configure na network dito. Isa pa, mga tao nang IBM dito halos lahat eh support sa mga binebenta nilang equipments or technologies. Bihira dito ang dev post.

Accenture - trainings and exposure madami dito. ok din naman siguro pay although lakas daw dito mag-retrench ngayon sabi nang pinsan ko

HP - what i like about this company is may clear path yung career improvement mo saka maganda salary. Sabi sa HP&P&G thread, minimum dito 25K. Siguro ganun talaga kapag international company. Isa pa, magandang training dito at pwede ka ipadala sa ibang bansa. Wala pang bond yung training lalo na siguro kapag locally lang. Bihira din dev. More on sysad jobs like Unix, oracle, sql, linux etc...

Kung prestige naman, ok kung sa EMC & Sun Microsystems. Talagang astig ka kapag galing ka dito. Di sila masyado kilala lalo na for newly grads or those na galing sa Development kasi backend etong mga 'to. These companies are like cisco. They power the back-end of all IT Services kaya talagang astig kapag dito ka galing.

When it comes to shifting sked, sanayan lang talaga yan. =p each company offers different perks kaya i didn't ranked them

[TheEndofDays]

In my opinion..

Kung prestige naman, ok kung sa EMC & Sun Microsystems. Talagang astig ka kapag galing ka dito. Di sila masyado kilala lalo na for newly grads or those na galing sa Development kasi backend etong mga 'to. These companies are like cisco. They power the back-end of all IT Services kaya talagang astig kapag dito ka galing.



Anyway it's just your opinion. But to provide information on the above
EMC is only popular by brand so as Cisco and SUN (maybe you just seen it on your IT Infrastructure). But they are just brands. The openings here are more of a Sales and Marketing with technical experience. You need to be hands-on experience on this equipment not necessary employed with them.

There are brands that can go head-to-head with this
EMC - Hitachi - NetApp, etc.
SUN was brought by Oracle already
Cisco - Juniper - Foundry Networks, etc.

[mann112486]

sang skul po ***? TUP b? hehehe.... anyways, pano po kayo ngpasa ng resume s chevron?

[mann112486]

^#2 It may also depend on how you present your resume and the way you answer each question on the interview. I had been considered for a position here. I graduated from a State University in Manila and I had a failing grade during college.

sang skul po kayo? TUP b? hehehe...anyways, pno po magpasa ng resume s chevron?

[TrendMike]

In my opinion..

IBM - you'll learn a lot of documentation, process development and project management here. Yung friend ko na CCNA halos wala daw kino-configure na network dito. Isa pa, mga tao nang IBM dito halos lahat eh support sa mga binebenta nilang equipments or technologies. Bihira dito ang dev post.

Accenture - trainings and exposure madami dito. ok din naman siguro pay although lakas daw dito mag-retrench ngayon sabi nang pinsan ko

HP - what i like about this company is may clear path yung career improvement mo saka maganda salary. Sabi sa HP&P&G thread, minimum dito 25K. Siguro ganun talaga kapag international company. Isa pa, magandang training dito at pwede ka ipadala sa ibang bansa. Wala pang bond yung training lalo na siguro kapag locally lang. Bihira din dev. More on sysad jobs like Unix, oracle, sql, linux etc...

Kung prestige naman, ok kung sa EMC & Sun Microsystems. Talagang astig ka kapag galing ka dito. Di sila masyado kilala lalo na for newly grads or those na galing sa Development kasi backend etong mga 'to. These companies are like cisco. They power the back-end of all IT Services kaya talagang astig kapag dito ka galing.

When it comes to shifting sked, sanayan lang talaga yan. =p each company offers different perks kaya i didn't ranked them

âbout the 25K minimum sa HP, thats a myth ^__^

[sexychinita14]

^ talaga? *** s kakilala ko sabi daw is 24k *** offer sa kanya.

[charmedbyu]

Misys
1. mataas pay
2. fun environment
3. unlimited cofee, tea, softdrinks
4. laging me pakain, outing, pacatering.. etc
5. parang di nakakaranas ng recession

[newbie0808]

Hi!I'm not from HP Makati but i know a few friends there. Depende sa urgency ng position ang bilis ng feedback. For some people i know, they landed an offer in a span of 2weeks..in case you failed the exam, i think HP will inform you through an email within a month(based sa experience ng friend ko)..:)

Anyway with regards to the topic of this thread, i know an I.T company that offers competitive salary and good benefits for IT fresh grads (minimum of 25k)..Seer Technologies..it's located in 139 corporate center..:)

i meant interview not exam.:D

[juan_hustler]

Six months ago I was interviewed by HP by the manager, until now I have not heard from them.

[dark_archer02]

wait so are you still waiting juanhustler? or are you working already in a different company?

[juan_hustler]

dark_archer02,

No, I'm not waiting. I guess the feeling is mutual, if they don't like me, I don't like them too. Besides, the manager who interviewed was kinda snotty.

I just don't get it, they hire fresh grads whilst they ignore a professional like me who happens to work in one of their biggest competitors.

Bitter noh? he he he. Ok lang yun, masaya naman ako ngayon eh

[dark_archer02]

hahaha no prob bro... baka may plano talga si bro hahaha

[allirpa]

ako rin nainterview sa HP a few months ago. at la na rin akong narinig sa kanila since then. feeling ko okay naman yung interview ko eh. ewan ko ba. di man lang nila ako sinabihan kung pasado ba ako o ano.

[arnben]

may java dev opening ba sa HP?

[gothiccreed]

âbout the 25K minimum sa HP, thats a myth ^__^

hahaha thanks for confirming its a myth. Im hearing a lot of that kasi

[Ravenheart]

uppppppppppppppp

[DisconnectedMX]

ganyan na pala kababa salary ng mga Developer?

I thought it's above 25k, i guess my friends are lying.

[speedcuber]

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[RobinCharlesJr]

âbout the 25K minimum sa HP, thats a myth ^__^

hahaha! 25k is not really a "MYTH" per se.. HP offers high salaries to "highly-skilled" potential employees (this includes fresh grads with honors and top-experienced applicants).

But for the "usual" potential applicants (for entry-level IT jobs) 20-23k is the basic salary range (excluding the benefits) and note that HP only has 15% tax. :)

[TrendMike]

hahaha! 25k is not really a "MYTH" per se.. HP offers high salaries to "highly-skilled" potential employees (this includes fresh grads with honors and top-experienced applicants).

But for the "usual" potential applicants (for entry-level IT jobs) 20-23k is the basic salary range (excluding the benefits) and note that HP only has 15% tax. :)

^Agree 100%. 25K is possible but its not the Minimum.

[Ravenheart]

^__^ taga HP ka po TrendMike? Refer u naman ako! Heheh!

[arnben]

hey may opening ba for mid-level java dev.. refer naman..:) PM na lang nung email. thanks.

[Ravenheart]

IT Fresh Grad here looking for his first job hahaha

[Ravenheart]

Bump ^________^

[Ravenheart]

Maganda ba talaga mag work sa Misys? Ano ba mga positions available dito?

About IBM, *** tech support specialist kaya ok ang pay?

[singlemom46]

Ask ko lang, has anyone here knows about Ingram Micro? Ano po masasabi nyo about the company in terms of culture, salary, benefits & other perks? Feedback naman po...

[tigasingmatsing]

i dont think na kasama ang IBM dito.
first of all ang liit ng salary nila.
pangalawa wala silang 14th month unlike accenture na siguradong may 13th month 14th month at christmas
bonus.
Ang health package nila sobrang liit din walang kwento kung icocompare sa Accenture. na almost 300K plus ***
Maxicare benefits per illness per year.
Pangatlo *** clothing allowance nila 5oo lang sus ano mabibili mo. Eh sa accenture 1250 hehehe.
pangapat medical benefits every year in IBM 6K lang comapred sa accenture 15K.
Lugi ka talaga sa IBM.
Napaka unprofessional pa ng mga HRs nila. And Delivery Lead. Hindi marunong sumunod sa appointments.

[yukix_08]

Balita ko wala pala bond ang HP eh pero usad pagong ang HR nila tsk.

min pay 25k? myth? tlg??

IBM nawawala na ang amore.

[TrendMike]

^Myth :) pero what HP can give is really high na talaga compared to other companies :)

[ice_breaker]

Balita ko wala pala bond ang HP eh pero usad pagong ang HR nila tsk.

min pay 25k? myth? tlg??

IBM nawawala na ang amore.

HP? 25k minimum?? Wish ko lang!!!

[lalainedomantay]

Anyone from Cebu here? :)
I'm looking for ideas kung saan maganda mag OJT dito, companies that could train BS Comp Sci students like me, particularly sa software development/programming.

[twacked]

Up for this thread! mejo natabunan na hehe...

For the rest of the people here, anu say niyo sa mga companies na may 2-3 yrs bond??? fresh grad po ako. currently job hunting.

[krysbarcia24]

pag sulit sa training yung bond, go for it, otherwise, don't go for it. sometimes masyado lang insecure ang isang company feeling nila since sila nagbigay sayo ng first job mo e malaki dapat utang na loob mo sa kanila ang they force you to sign up for a position with bond kahit walang trainings. bottomline: if the company will be investing in you through trainings, travel, etc,. then ok lang ang may bond kasi fair lang yun dahil ginastusan ka nila at lugi sila pag umalis ka na hindi pa nila nasusulit yung cost nila sayo. Kung walang investment sayo, lugi ka pag may bond.

[coachoftheyear]

HP? 25k minimum?? Wish ko lang!!!

o well my friend who happens to be a fresh grad will start working in HP Ortigas within this month. Sabi nya sa akin 25K ang offer. Though I also have a pending application and ang bagal talaga ng HR.

[Retz]

How about starting salary in P&G? Is it also 25K?

[twacked]

@coach

taga UP ba ang friend mo? Nabasa ko sa Hp thread na fast track daw ang application nila. And about dun sa 25K I think it's the gross pay. Hindi pa kasama ang mga allowances (clothing, shuttle, etc...).

Sa P&G sa tingin ko ang starting salary nila is based sa credentials ng successful applicants. Mas prefer nila syempre ang marami extra-cullicular activites. Yun ang nakikita kong trend sa mga nagwork na doon na alumni ng school namin.

[song412]

@coach

taga UP ba ang friend mo? Nabasa ko sa Hp thread na fast track daw ang application nila. And about dun sa 25K I think it's the gross pay. Hindi pa kasama ang mga allowances (clothing, shuttle, etc...).

Sa P&G sa tingin ko ang starting salary nila is based sa credentials ng successful applicants. Mas prefer nila syempre ang marami extra-cullicular activites. Yun ang nakikita kong trend sa mga nagwork na doon na alumni ng school namin.

Depende daw po ata *** HP, may friend akong nakasabay, Dec. initial interview niya.. nitong Late January nagtuluy-tuloy na at during his last interview may nakasabay siyang noon september pa ang initial interview. *** P&G po more on activities? Conscious din po ba sila sa mga grades? If ever may failures turn-off na po ba kagad sa P&G, pansin ko po kasi mga graduate with honors *** natatanggap sa kanila, consequently marami rin pong activities.

[twacked]

*** P&G po more on activities?

Based from my observations, yes. Try mo na rin mag-apply kasi wala naman mawawala diba? :) Ako nagtry ako and have already passed their Global Reasoning Test. After kasi nun may online exam pa. Success Driver something (haba ng title). More of attitude ang exam na yun kaya walang wrong answers.

[timbangers]

i dont think na kasama ang IBM dito.
first of all ang liit ng salary nila.
pangalawa wala silang 14th month unlike accenture na siguradong may 13th month 14th month at christmas
bonus.
Ang health package nila sobrang liit din walang kwento kung icocompare sa Accenture. na almost 300K plus ***
Maxicare benefits per illness per year.
Pangatlo *** clothing allowance nila 5oo lang sus ano mabibili mo. Eh sa accenture 1250 hehehe.
pangapat medical benefits every year in IBM 6K lang comapred sa accenture 15K.
Lugi ka talaga sa IBM.
Napaka unprofessional pa ng mga HRs nila. And Delivery Lead. Hindi marunong sumunod sa appointments.

uhmm...i work for IBM. meron namang 14th month based on my experience.

maliit salary? baka naman six figure salary habol mo, hindi talaga ibibigay sa mga hindi deserving yun.

about the clothing allowance, i guess mas malaki nga sa accenture.

galing ka siguro sa IBM no, parang bitter ka eh.

btw, andaming open java positions dito.

[teejay14]

o well my friend who happens to be a fresh grad will start working in HP Ortigas within this month. Sabi nya sa akin 25K ang offer. Though I also have a pending application and ang bagal talaga ng HR.

Iba iba ang salary job grade kahit entry level. Fresh graduate ako when I joined HP, above 29K ang sweldo ko. :)

[xel_7]

i dont think na kasama ang IBM dito.
first of all ang liit ng salary nila.
pangalawa wala silang 14th month unlike accenture na siguradong may 13th month 14th month at christmas
bonus.
Ang health package nila sobrang liit din walang kwento kung icocompare sa Accenture. na almost 300K plus ***
Maxicare benefits per illness per year.
Pangatlo *** clothing allowance nila 5oo lang sus ano mabibili mo. Eh sa accenture 1250 hehehe.
pangapat medical benefits every year in IBM 6K lang comapred sa accenture 15K.
Lugi ka talaga sa IBM.
Napaka unprofessional pa ng mga HRs nila. And Delivery Lead. Hindi marunong sumunod sa appointments.

are you from IBM? i don't think so :D

yung salary depende sa band level na mapapasukan mo. if you are b5, around 17-20k lang ang makukuha mo. kung b6, which is the usual entry level for IT, 30-35k. minimum

meron kaming 14th month pay. payouts on april and nov (xmas bonus). encashable pa leaves namin

yung maxicare depende din sa band level, at platinum plan kami sa maxicare. so far, wala pa akong naririnig na reklamo sa coverage ng health plan namin. praises meron, definitely

our allowances that are set in stone totals up to 3k a month. wala pa dyan yung additional allowances depende sa band level

15k lang yung sayo? bakit yung sakin more than 20k? :lol:

sinong delivery lead ba to? i have been with the company for the past few years na. malamang kilala ko pa yan ;)

konting ingat lang sa mga haka-haka :D

[xel_7]

Based from my observations, yes. Try mo na rin mag-apply kasi wala naman mawawala diba? :) Ako nagtry ako and have already passed their Global Reasoning Test. After kasi nun may online exam pa. Success Driver something (haba ng title). More of attitude ang exam na yun kaya walang wrong answers.

i have friends in p&g and the feedback there is meron 'wrong answers' dun sa exam na yun

they automatically filter if you are in a certain eq spectrum or something. kung wala ka dun sa range na yun, hindi ka na pasado

[rozzcb]

@xel_7

Enlighten me please I'm in torn right now between ACN and IBM,

I'm entering as a Mid level Lotus Notes Developer for IBM

and for ACN a random post as an ASE.

Can I get other software IBM have asides from Lotus Notes? because I want to study while working on my spare time. Is this possible?

[Lawstrong69]

^ Uhmmm, If you are sure na magiging masaya ka sa IBM, then grab the opportunity as a Lotus Notes Dev, then before ka umalis dun, be sure to experience mainstream programming with them. Kasi if aalis ka dun as LND, mahihirapan kang humanap ng nxt job na magooffer ng better compensation. Kaya be sure to experience mainstream before ka umalis. IBM is IBM. pero if u don't want to take a big risk, grab the ASE post. being an SE puts you to the mainstream of Computer Science / IT. With that, kelan ka man umalis, *** natutunan mo would still be very much useful and applicable sa future opportunities :) Two cents worth of opinion :)

[10seconds]

bakit wala pa rin bootcamp ang Lawson? :( Sana mag open na.

[rozzcb]

^ Uhmmm, If you are sure na magiging masaya ka sa IBM, then grab the opportunity as a Lotus Notes Dev, then before ka umalis dun, be sure to experience mainstream programming with them. Kasi if aalis ka dun as LND, mahihirapan kang humanap ng nxt job na magooffer ng better compensation. Kaya be sure to experience mainstream before ka umalis. IBM is IBM. pero if u don't want to take a big risk, grab the ASE post. being an SE puts you to the mainstream of Computer Science / IT. With that, kelan ka man umalis, *** natutunan mo would still be very much useful and applicable sa future opportunities :) Two cents worth of opinion :)

Thanks po for the advice actually I'm not limited to Lotus Notes, I also have solid experience in SQL and VB Scripting. I believe nasa mainstream naman ako pero may kulang kasi may mga company ako na gustong pasukan pero kulang pa skill set ko :).

Anyways another company offered me something that can boost my experience in terms of .Net and BI Tools development and I already grabbed it even though I have very little experience or no experience at all. Whats life without challenges :D

[lifeisabigsh*t]

i dont think na kasama ang IBM dito.
first of all ang liit ng salary nila.
pangalawa wala silang 14th month unlike accenture na siguradong may 13th month 14th month at christmas
bonus.
Ang health package nila sobrang liit din walang kwento kung icocompare sa Accenture. na almost 300K plus ***
Maxicare benefits per illness per year.
Pangatlo *** clothing allowance nila 5oo lang sus ano mabibili mo. Eh sa accenture 1250 hehehe.
pangapat medical benefits every year in IBM 6K lang comapred sa accenture 15K.
Lugi ka talaga sa IBM.
Napaka unprofessional pa ng mga HRs nila. And Delivery Lead. Hindi marunong sumunod sa appointments.

hmmm...i just signed a contract with IBM. i'm starting very soon.....with regards to the compensation and salary...tama naman yung taga-ibm na nagreply na dito... depende siguro sa position and with 13th and 14th month naman sila.


yung sa delivery lead...di ko alam. malalaman ko pa lang hehehehe

[xel_7]

@xel_7

Enlighten me please I'm in torn right now between ACN and IBM,

I'm entering as a Mid level Lotus Notes Developer for IBM

and for ACN a random post as an ASE.

Can I get other software IBM have asides from Lotus Notes? because I want to study while working on my spare time. Is this possible?

i just saw your post right now so lemme answer it para fyi na rin sa iba

first of all, what is an ASE? anong position yun?

that is possible. here in ibm kasi, we have a learning portal that offers tons of free tutorials/lectures about programming, project management, security, etc. although yung mga detailed talaga na courses and seminars usually entails a fee, at least you can get a feel on the kind of apps/technology that you would like to learn

kung feeling mo is mas ok sayo yung ibang branches, you can open up to your manager naman and then see if you can transfer departments. may internal rule nga lang na you must stay 18 months to your current department before moving

anyway, it looks like you have already chosen your employer so godspeed na lang. i believe in that mindset din: if it ain't easy, it won't last :D

[Twiabs21]

Hi guys, Sino makakapag bigay ng mga address ng mga IT Company na pinost nyo e.g. IBM, Chevron and etc..

thanks

[TrendMike]

^
Hi. A simple word of advice. If you are planning to apply at the top corporations, it would be recommended that you are to be responsible, hard-working, and resourceful.

Anyway, the addresses, and so as the e-mail addresses of the corporations are most likely on their respective threads. you might also want to check on their official websites.

[Macstar1]

Hi everyone!

I'm currently torn between Oracle Philippines and Accenture Philippines . . . can anybody enlighten me as to which of the two is better?

My primary concerns are:
- Stability
- Opportunity for learning and career growth (within)
- Compensation and benefits
- capability to balance work and family
- Exposure and Pogi points should the time comes na kailangan kong mag-move on.

Salamat Po!

[Lawstrong69]

Oracle or Accenture

- Stability
As for stability, I think Oracle has it. As far as I know, there weren't any bigtime lay-offs in Oracle while Accenture had it some time ago.

- Opportunity for learning and career growth (within)
Accenture has this. Accenture provides great trainings, not to mention the fact that they really raise a professional's market value.

- Compensation and benefits
I think both have this. Oracle and Accenture define CompBen in different approaches. Accenture gives some-time-big-time compensation such as travels and stuff, while Oracle gives little-but-nice stuffs frequently. Both approaches touch differently for different employees. Though travel benefits sounds like music to most individuals - so Accenture has this. As to the salary, Oracle undoubtedly wins.

- Capability to balance work and family
Oracle wins in this category. A humongous portion of Oracle Philippines' business revolves around the Enterprise Resource Planning field. This field does not really require massive amount of productive time against Accenture's business line's.

- Exposure and Pogi points should the time comes na kailangan mong mag-move on.
Accenture got this one. As I mentioned, Accenture offers great training for professionals, with this fact at hand, you would definitely demonstrate and live up to what this category means.

It's a 3-3 score. It's upto you on what categories weigh heavier.

Oracle:
1. Stability
2. Compensation and benefits (WITH the salary into consideration)
3. Capability to balance work and family

Accenture:
1. Opportunity for learning and career growth (within)
2. Compensation and benefits (WITHOUT the salary into consideration)
3. Exposure and Pogi points should the time comes na kailangan mong mag-move on.

[Macstar1]

Thanks for your inputs LawStrong69 . . . tsk tsk tsk . . . this is really one tough call . . .

[softengr]

Hi Guys,

Just got an info about IBM Solutions Delivery and they are open for hiring IT-Specialist for Software Quality Analyst post. Send me your updated resume here " biterfox@gmail.com " and I'll forward it to my friend in HR Recruitment. Thanks! Goodluck Guys!!!

[batang*byahiLo]

Guys, ako din, I need help. 2 years with SAP Support ako before and now I am part of Shell, pero end-user. I have a pending JO with HP fo FICO Implem.

What do you think?? As a whole?

Shell or HP?? :confused:

[Lawstrong69]

Follow your heart. Cliche but yea, follow what you really want. Anyway, If you want to be in the mainstream of the industry, go with HP. It'll stand out against "Shell" if you want the real "I" and "T", IT.

[batang*byahiLo]

IT it is. The heart is very willing but the pocket is having second thoughts. im doing a list of my pro's and cons but its still incomplete..

[amilopro]

sumuko na ako sa IT. I once worked as a software developer, the daily routine of going on a meeting, programming, lunch, meeting, programming was a living hell for me since I was never interested in making softwares in the first place. It was, in one word, miserable.

Mataas talaga ang pay, that one I have no doubt pero pag di ka interested sa trabaho mo, di ka talaga gagaling kasi wala doon yung will.

[HiPsTaH]

how about ust global? any idea how much their salary for fresh grad is?

[lifeisabigsh*t]

pag di ka interested sa trabaho mo, di ka talaga gagaling kasi wala doon yung will.


i agreee.....*okay*

[freekill]

how about ust global? any idea how much their salary for fresh grad is?

i have a batchmate na magwowork na dito i dunno *** kung kelan *** magsstart. pero starting nya is 25k.

[10seconds]

^25? anong position yun?

[freekill]

di ko sure kung anong position di kami ganun ka close nung batchmate ko eh pero ECE grad *** and from a reputable school kami kaya baka may onting bias. btw, *** UST Global kasi *** pumunta sa school namin para maghire ng graduating students.

[10seconds]

onting bias :hmm: ? eniway, baka makasabay ko batchmate mo :)

[freekill]

hehe gudluck sa inyo =] magbboard exam kasi muna ako although may kinonsider din akong offer sa ibang company pinagiisipan ko pa ng mabuti.

[leah france]

Looks like an HR is making a survey :lol:

:lol: benchmarking?