Falsifying the Resume

[mufdiver_69_III]

How prevalent is it here? Are people generally honest with their credentials and accomplishments? How many employers check the facts? Is it a recruiter's obligation to investigate the items in a resume before recommending a candidate to a client?

[KuyaDanny]

A bank I used to work for hired a detective agency (Member, PADPAO) to check my background. They called all the people/companies listed in my resume. Maybe that's just because they're a bank and want to be extra careful when hiring people.

[BabyFATS]

A telecoms company I used to work for also called one (if not all) of the references that I posted in my resume and interviewed her about my credentials. I think it's standard procedure for all companies who want to be sure they're getting trustworthy people. :)

[tr|n|ty]

well, i would like to call it "creativity" :p don't get me wrong, i think you should not outright lie in your resume especially if you want to be in a reputable firm but a good use of words when you talk about what you did in your past jobs is a plus. I know this one kid from school who worked for top guns like Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan Chase and Merrill Lynch...he didn't really do anything substantial in any of the three companies..especially in ML(don't ask me, every person who has worked there came out not saying anything good about the company) where he was a gopher(can you go for that or go for this) but he said stuff in his resume like "value companies' tangible and intangible assets, researched possible mergers or acquisitions, created pro forma financial statements" YAH RIGHT!! hahaha if he did put what he really did in those jobs it would be "did photocopying and binding work" :lol:

[the_BuGs]

Originally posted by KuyaDanny
A bank I used to work for hired a detective agency (Member, PADPAO) to check my background. They called all the people/companies listed in my resume. Maybe that's just because they're a bank and want to be extra careful when hiring people.

Kuyadanny sa bank talaga nag checheck sila kung me mga blacklisted talaga =)

[callcenterdude]

hahaha.

i came across to this topic via msn homepage.

hmmmm

yah dati. i lied. kaya i was hired.

[Assassin_Mage]

I believe that lying in resumes is not good.

but that does not preclude the fact that one can be creative in describing his data. jsut like what trinity said, one can write things in a creative way. and most HR people accept this. it is normal.

Outright lying though is frowned upon. and most people will be able to see it anyway

[CoolCucumber]

Lying is ok, I think, as long as you won't get caught.

There was this one guy who applied in a company. He stated that he was already through with his schooling (he was an undergrad when he applied) and even produced a fake diploma and transcript of records (from Recto, of course). Well, he was figured out so he wasn't hired (obviously). Right now he's blacklisted in that company. So... :no: :D

[Dunedain]

What folks would do just to get a job. Oh, wait. They'd even go as far as faking their ITR just to show when applying for a US visa. Bato-bato sa langit, tamaan 'wag magalit. :D

[Ladydredd]

in the call center where im currently working, they really do background checking. but they only call your previous employers(as listed in your resume) and character references, and they usually ask about how long you worked for them, your previous position, and reason for leaving. pretty basic...

[Pin@tubo]

the call center industry is small, there's a fat chance you know one person in each call center. and there are associations. we normally find out who are blacklisted mostly from the network we establish in the association and people whom we worked with before. we also discover applicants who lie about their position titles.

[elyserva]

Uso yan dito sa Saudi! Dito nga e merong mga British na karpintero at mekaniko sa UK, pag dating dito engineer na. Karamihan e mga Pakistani, Indian, Egyptian and mahilig mang fake ng certificates.

We have a Sri Lankan before who have a very impressive credentials, more impressive than our manager who used to be an IBM field engineer. This Sri Lankan guy, when sat in front of a computer, don't even know which key to press. What's even worse, when he was terminated, he took with him a bundle of the company's letterhed, made lots of certification with the letterheads, signed them himself, and applied for another job in Jeddah. The company he applied to called out office about this guy. So the our company threatened to jail the guy if they hire him.

Here's another story (I don't know if it's true) about a Filipino and an Egyptian who went to a government hospital here for check up. The Egyptian recognize a certain doctor in the hospital whom he knew because they're from the same village in Egypt. The Egyptian said to his Pinoy companion: "We're in trouble! This guy is not a doctor but a veterinarian in Egypt!".:D

[zaki]

R there any company na they check talaga the school kung talagang graduate ka, and nagda-divulge ba ng info ang mga schools? curious lang

[froshie1]

Originally posted by zaki
R there any company na they check talaga the school kung talagang graduate ka, and nagda-divulge ba ng info ang mga schools? curious lang

of course merong ganyan.

[Adroth]

Originally posted by zaki
R there any company na they check talaga the school kung talagang graduate ka, and nagda-divulge ba ng info ang mga schools? curious lang

I used to work in a bank, and part of my job was to conduct background checks. One of the people I smoked out claimed to have graduated, when in fact the she hadn't. I was able to figure that one out by requesting a certified, "for employment purposes", copy of her transcript from her school. I had to provide my identity as an investigator for that; schools don't go around giving away student's grades left and right.

Originally posted by CoolCucumber
Lying is ok, I think, as long as you won't get caught.

When one lies on a resume, that person doesn't only shortchange the company, he is also setting himself up for failure.

While I was in Taiwan, I met two foreigners who bloated their resumes, and over emphasized certain skills just to get their jobs. One managed to get himself into a supervisory position, and had to endure the humiliation of being demoted and moved out of his office because he simply couldn't deliver.

The other bloke was even worse. He applied for a job as a technical writer in my company, offered his masters thesis as a writing sample (I have no idea why the writing team lead fell for that one, given that those things get edited by other people), and presented himself as an IT network guru. He got the job. Later he bragged to me about having mastered the art of selling himself for more than he was worth.

He was a disaster. Aside from coming up with crappy documentation, he apparently had behavioral issues as well (e.g., near brawl with a project manager, two sexual harrasment complaints, etc.). He went through two years of "unacceptable" performance evaluations.

Apparently not having learned his lesson, he applied for another tech job, this time in a major American computer company (that used to own the mainframe computer market, but has since diversified into other areas like e-commerce). This time he not only emblazoned his resume with his masters degree, but leveraged our company's as well reputation as well (we're recognized as one of the top 5 home-grown international brands in Taiwan). His new spin was that he was a Linux guru -- despite the fact that he'd only started tinkering with it for a few months prior.

He didn't last in the company a year. Now he is out of work, and is teaching English as a freelancer.

Be true to yourselves guys. You'll be a lot happier.

[little sue]

i think lying is ok pero minimal lang yung pag sinungaling mo ha, fo e.g i-lengthen mo yung month ng previous work mo para lumabas na 6 months ka employed though yung ibang company nag che-check pero most of the time naman hindi. pero yung babaguhin mo yung status mo from being a carpenter to an engineer its a big NO-NO for me! makukulong ka pa nun eh

may 2 akong friends na undergrad pero nakakuha ng work sa magandang company at malaki sweldo... sabi nila grad ***, pero recto lang documents nila. yung isa work in a pharmaceutical company he is a med rep. yung isa naman graphic artist, in a short span na upgrade agad position nya sa company kasi antaas ng mga grades nya sa transcript. tawa nga kami ng tawa eh, kasi sabi nya binigay daw nya sa recto yung mga cards nya para i-copy na lang yung mga grades sa mga subject na nakuha nya... it turns out na pwede na syang maging candidate for cumlaude sa kinalabasan ng transcript nya . bute na lang talaga magaling ang at artistic ang frend namin na yun. he is with the company for 2 or 3 years now :*)

[Dacs]

It's not worth it. Lalo na if you're applying for a position that the company would expect a lot of responsibilities from you.
I'd rather be branded as magna ...
<---- (see?)
kaysa naman mameke :D It's either they accept me with my credentials at hand or not :D

[KuyaDanny]

Anong mas maganda pakinggan...

Magna...nine years o

Summa...blay?

:lol:

[Dacs]

Summa... sampu? Hehehe :D may kilala akong ganyan :)

[Yuri_Prime]

What if the company lied to you. Like they claim they are stable when in fact most of their assets are already in bank as mortgage, or they claim that the working environment is good, but they have defective toilet faucets and the aircondition is not suitable for the size of the room???

[elyserva]

Very common yan dito sa Saudi. Specially among the 'jackfruits', 'apache', 'pako' & 'mashrik'. Kung minsan mas impressive pa ang resume nila kesa mga boss!:D Pag dating sa trabaho na, ay ambot!:D

[Adroth]

What if the company lied to you. Like they claim they are stable when in fact most of their assets are already in bank as mortgage, or they claim that the working environment is good, but they have defective toilet faucets and the aircondition is not suitable for the size of the room???

If you suspect a company of lying to you, why would you even apply?

Do you advocate using the possibility of being lied to, as an excuse for lying?

[dynamic33]

if you are undergrad and you need a job, you can put in your resume that your degree is "anticipated". it is better this way than being caught. your purpose here is to get the necessary credentials and experience.

later on, even when you did not finish college, you can rely on your experience to get you high paying jobs. but of course, it is better that you finish schooling so that you will be "competitive(???)"

[Yuri_Prime]

If you suspect a company of lying to you, why would you even apply?

Do you advocate using the possibility of being lied to, as an excuse for lying?

That's not what I mean.

What I am trying to say is, if applicants don't want the company lying to them, then they should not lie to the company. Golden Rule.

[SiOMs]

no way! :ayaw:

[mr. yotsuya]

mabibisto din naman pagdating sa work e. mapapahiya ka pa, not unless super kapalmuks ka.

[john_mkt]

nag-fake ng resume kasi meron naman iba na marunong at magaling sa trabaho at talo pa ang boss nila kaso undergrad. problema lang tinamad pumasok sa school.

[starfish07]

:flower: minsan na tetemp ako pero di ko pa na try one time nga! :glee: