mga AYALA, sila ba ay manggugulang at mapang-abusong mga tao?

[Dickydogg]

ang mga kapitalista na mga Zobel de Ayala ya isa sa pinaka-magugulang na tao sa buong Pilipinas!!! ginagamit nila ang karunungan ng mga magagaling na gradweyt sa mga magagandang unibersidad at binabayaran lamang ng maliit ayon sa nararapat. sila ay napakasasamang mga tao na nagmamaneobra pa ng ekonomiya para lang sa kanilang kapakanan.

[GORDON_FREEMAN_PHD]

Can you back it up with numbers or must we believe your generalized, stereotyped rhetoric?

And why single out the Ayala group? What about all the other big local corporations?

[reybelde]

Dickydogg: Hinay-hinay lang pre, puso mo. Itong forum na pinopostan mo ay isang Ayala company just so you know.

I HATE TO SEE LACSON BECOME PRESIDENT http://www.contrabandent.com/pez/otn/angry/icon8.gif
MAMUMUNDOK NA LANG AKO KAPAG MANGYARI YAN http://www.contrabandent.com/pez/otn/angry/icon8.gif

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[brownpau]

Is this flamebait or a valid accusation? Well, whichever it is, KuyaDanny will decide in the Business forum, where it's more appropriate.

[lupuS]

Hindi mo ba naisip na kung talagang "ginagamit nila ang karunungan ng mga magagaling na gradweyt sa mga magagandang unibersidad at binabayaran lamang ng maliit ayon sa nararapat", matagal nang nagsilayas yang mga magagaling na gradweyt na yan? Eh bakit nandiyan pa sila? Wala namang pumipilit sa kanila.

[Dickydogg]

Originally posted by lupuS
Hindi mo ba naisip na kung talagang "ginagamit nila ang karunungan ng mga magagaling na gradweyt sa mga magagandang unibersidad at binabayaran lamang ng maliit ayon sa nararapat", matagal nang nagsilayas yang mga magagaling na gradweyt na yan? Eh bakit nandiyan pa sila? Wala namang pumipilit sa kanila.

dahil magaling silang mang-uto at mang-g@g0. tandaan mo sila ay mga makapangyarihang mga kapitalista. akala mo lang sigurong mataas ang binabayad dahil medyo mataas ka ng kaunti sa iba pero kung titingnan mo naman kung papaano sila manggamit ng tao at kung papaano pa nila pinayaman ang kanilang angkan, tingi lang ang nakukuha mo. at kung magpatayo pa raw sila ng mga foundation para tulungan ang mga marurunong na estudyante... nag-iiscout lang sila kung sino ang kanilang susunod na magagamit.

[Dickydogg]

Originally posted by GORDON_FREEMAN_PHD
And why single out the Ayala group? What about all the other big local corporations?

some big companies also abuse, of course. the reason why i singled out the Ayala group because this site is run by the ayala group. :D

[cong]

regardless of the shape and size of their business structure, how sophisticated its abilities, anybody would struggle unless accountable people implement and sustain your structure, systems, and strategies. sure they hire the best of the best, who wouldnt? low profits are generally caused by lack of management. under compensated? doubt it. did you know that the first tenants of aav all worked for ayala corp.?

you cant fault capitalists from making more and more money. we are now living in a world where money move with just a click of a button, where capital is transferred within minutes. and the more sophistacated you get, the more you advance.

[aticus]

Dickydogg, I think we're all waiting for concrete proof of what you say. You DO realize that you may be sued for libel under Philippine law unless you prove what you say, right? And that the law will accept your posts as evidence, and will have the right to ask PEx to identify you for purposes of arrest?

I'm not kidding. You'd either better prove what you just said, or admit that you're conducting a smear campaign and will take it all back. This is serious stuff you're getting yourself into.

[benjiep]

Originally posted by Dickydogg
dahil magaling silang mang-uto at mang-g@g0. tandaan mo sila ay mga makapangyarihang mga kapitalista. akala mo lang sigurong mataas ang binabayad dahil medyo mataas ka ng kaunti sa iba pero kung titingnan mo naman kung papaano sila manggamit ng tao at kung papaano pa nila pinayaman ang kanilang angkan, tingi lang ang nakukuha mo. at kung magpatayo pa raw sila ng mga foundation para tulungan ang mga marurunong na estudyante... nag-iiscout lang sila kung sino ang kanilang susunod na magagamit.

Hmmm... So what do they owe you... personally?

[batang uliran]

The compensation one gets for working in one of the Ayala companies is near the top (if not at the top) for Filipino owned comapnies and is very competitive with what multinational companies pay. If you have any evidence to the contrary, you are welcome to post it here.

[boardbuster]

Whatever amount the Ayalas paid for new graduates are not important to the graduates. Nowadays, when it is difficult to get employment withouyt experience, at least the Ayalas are giving a start-up chance to these green and new employees. If the pay is so bas, they are welcomed to take it or leave it! I am sure there are hundreds of others willing to take their place.

Besides, the Ayalas, have to consider employee turn-over. During the first six months or first year, the new employee is not expected to contribute much. Most of their time are spent on orientation and training and familiarization with the different aspects of the business, or acting as aides to more tenured senior employees.
It costs a lot to train new employees. And those who stayed are properly awarded with bigger pay.

I think people should be grateful that there are big companies like the Ayala that is forging ahead in contributing to the economic prosperity of the Philippines.

[Pao|o]

Give us proof of such abuses please... If you can't please shut up... Have a nice day...

I remembered Globe (an Ayala-owned company) voted as the best company to work for... I do wonder why...

[Dickydogg]

Originally posted by aticus
Dickydogg, I think we're all waiting for concrete proof of what you say. You DO realize that you may be sued for libel under Philippine law unless you prove what you say, right? And that the law will accept your posts as evidence, and will have the right to ask PEx to identify you for purposes of arrest?

I'm not kidding. You'd either better prove what you just said, or admit that you're conducting a smear campaign and will take it all back. This is serious stuff you're getting yourself into.

hehehehe!!!!!!!!!!! yeah right!!!!!!! :D

[j_tole]

WOW, HOW CUD U SAY SUCH A THING IF U DONT KNOW THEM PERSONALLY?!! I KNOW THEM PERSONALLY AND THEY ARE THE REASON Y I AM STUDYING AT A PRESTIGIOUS SCHOOL, SCHOLAR PO NILA AKO AT DI LANG AKO, MADAMI KAMI AND THAT'S A RUDE WAY OF GETTING ATTENTION YOU KNOW!!NEXT TIME DONT ACCUSE THEM OF SOMETHING WITHOUT HAVING ANY BACKGROUND.

[gfx-8]

makati (and all other Ayala Owned property) wouldnt be a better world without them.

imagine the philippines without AYALA. Makati, Laguna, Alabang, Cebu, etc. will surely look like Manila.

That i dont like.