The Jobless Pinoy's Thread [Archive]

Strange_Dejavu

May 26, 2002, 11:21 AM

the reason why i lost any interest whatsover in getting a job is the huge dose of reality that struck me when i graduated...

working for someone else means that you are planting on other people's land. Working for someone else will make THEM richer, while i settle for morsels the drop from their table. working for a company means that company goals and objectives are prioritized over MY OWN personal goals and objectives. Working for someone else means that i wont have time freedom, and most especially financial freedom. imagine, i learned all of these things from a high ranking executive from a very big company here in the Phils. He worked all his life, and in the end, though he had a lot of good experiences, he said he never really achieved anything of significance.

Success can never be measured by what it is in one's resume or past accomplishments. a person with a burning desire to succeed would always be more successful than someone wih a cum laude or a masters degree.

a salary is a short term solution to a long term problem!

if i get, lets say im lucky, 30T/month for the next 30 years, the grand total will be a whopping P10.6M! that is if i dont buy anything, eat anything, wear anything new, walk to work, and not pay water and electricity, and not have a family to provide for. i wonder what i can buy with that amount of money 30 YEARS from now???

i worked for 2 mos. then i suddenly opened my eyes. i asked the person who was about 10 years my senior in our department some questions. i asked her how her life was, was she well compensated, does she enjoy what she is doing etc...
ang mga sagot ay: Ok lang... eto, ganun pa rin... just getting by...

well, i just saw that that was where i was headed if i continue on with the rat race. try nyo tanong sa boss or superior nyo kung kumusta na buhay nya... pag di kayo satisfied sa sagot nya, mag resign na kayo sayang lang oras nyo!:D

i dont have to experience 10, 20, 30 more years of being employed for me to get sick of it! :D

hodgepodge

May 26, 2002, 11:47 AM

Strange_Dejavu[B]: Yeah, i get ur point. Grabe, its really depressing when u think about it. Just seeing some of my classmates before now working with jobs that they are so overqualified for (i dont want to mention anything, i myt offend somebody):) :) I just graduated last March and the job market is really bad nowadays, something like hundreds of people competing for one slot in a company. Needless to say, I am still a bum. :D I am still looking for that "dream' job. Idealistic huh? I am also thinking of just running my own business if not now then in the future because I get ur point that working for a company just makes a company richer. Aside from that, there is always office politics which is all about schmoozing your way to the top along with quality work of course. But I guess working for a big company also has its perks like fixed income, titles/prestige, meeting/working with distinguished people from your field, business travel. Dont u just hate the feeling of being disillusioned? It kinda makes you question your plans that you made probably since you were still in hs or college. Oh well, life's like that. good luck to all of us in this thread!

Jonga

May 27, 2002, 06:27 AM

right on!

gimmepaybmen!

:rocker:

cs_NOGNOG

May 27, 2002, 06:47 AM

Recommended book:

Rich Dad, Poor Dad.

battoosai

May 27, 2002, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by Strange_Dejavu
the reason why i lost any interest whatsover in getting a job is the huge dose of reality that struck me when i graduated...

working for someone else means that you are planting on other people's land. Working for someone else will make THEM richer, while i settle for morsels the drop from their table. working for a company means that company goals and objectives are prioritized over MY OWN personal goals and objectives. Working for someone else means that i wont have time freedom, and most especially financial freedom. imagine, i learned all of these things from a high ranking executive from a very big company here in the Phils. He worked all his life, and in the end, though he had a lot of good experiences, he said he never really achieved anything of significance.

Success can never be measured by what it is in one's resume or past accomplishments. a person with a burning desire to succeed would always be more successful than someone wih a cum laude or a masters degree.

a salary is a short term solution to a long term problem!

if i get, lets say im lucky, 30T/month for the next 30 years, the grand total will be a whopping P10.6M! that is if i dont buy anything, eat anything, wear anything new, walk to work, and not pay water and electricity, and not have a family to provide for. i wonder what i can buy with that amount of money 30 YEARS from now???

i worked for 2 mos. then i suddenly opened my eyes. i asked the person who was about 10 years my senior in our department some questions. i asked her how her life was, was she well compensated, does she enjoy what she is doing etc...
ang mga sagot ay: Ok lang... eto, ganun pa rin... just getting by...

well, i just saw that that was where i was headed if i continue on with the rat race. try nyo tanong sa boss or superior nyo kung kumusta na buhay nya... pag di kayo satisfied sa sagot nya, mag resign na kayo sayang lang oras nyo!:D

i dont have to experience 10, 20, 30 more years of being
employed for me to get sick of it! :D

I liked what you wrote. Actually you're quite right, you raised a very good point. Unfortunately that's what awaits the newly grad or those of us who are just starting out.....the business community here doesn't offer much than that.....well, we have no choice (parang un *** lumalabas), i guess starting out ***** ganun talaga ang bagsak natin unless your dad is the owner of a big company or has a very profitable business na he will pass on to you....or on the other hand.....do we really have no choice or DO WE?? that's what id like to know ...do you think we have other choices? aside from bumming hehe.....looks like you have an idea...:)

dead_weed_daw

May 27, 2002, 12:32 PM

I've been a "bum" for about 2 months now. The sad story is i got "booted" out of the company i've been working for. It was quite a shock when they told me. diff story.

It was a relief to not have to force myself to wake up and go to work mondays to fridays of every week. And also, take those long afternoon naps. Can't do that in the office. Being a bum has it's other rewards. I got to see Spiderman and Star Wars EP2 on their first day of showing without reserving tickets. Not much people at the cinemas at 2:00 PM.

Anyways, I would want to have a job before January next year. Too much "vacation" is well .. too much vacation.

Jonga

May 27, 2002, 06:02 PM

some people look for job not for the money.....but for the secrets.

Strange_Dejavu

May 27, 2002, 06:11 PM

Actually, right now, the only option i can see is either you win the lotto or you, well, its going to sound cliche or idealistic, but really the only other way to make it big is to go into franchising or Multi-level marketing. wala naman akong millions to go into franchising so i guess im left with one option.

dont get me wrong, im not here to invite anyone to join me into my venture with this kind of business. i'm going to try it since the only way to really know if you will succeed in something is for you to do it yourself. ive heard all the horror stories about this business, pero sila yun, iba ako sa kanila. i know what im capable of, and other people cant tell me what i think is good for me.

i'd rather take a small, calculated risk and see where i go than die old, wearing a uniform!

oh, i recommend Rich dad, Poor dad by Robert Kiosaki, a great mind-opener to the possibilities that await those who are willing to change their mentality about money and work.

:D

Strange_Dejavu

May 27, 2002, 06:24 PM

Originally posted by hodgepodge
But I guess working for a big company also has its perks like fixed income, titles/prestige, meeting/working with distinguished people from your field, business travel.

oo tama ka, fixed income. as in tinaga sa bato. hindi na umaangat. you would be lucky if aangat yan ng 1000 in a year. I was in HR, so i know how it works hehe. titles? prestige? pwede mo ba ipakain yan sa pamilya mo? tell me, do you know of ANYONE who became financially free and successful by working for someone else? meeting and working and kissing *** with distinguished people hehe :D

jonga:

sabi mo some people work not for the money? really huh? secrets??? sounds creepy :rolleyes:

dont tell me that people dont work for the money. total hypocrisy yan. money is a neccessity. siguro kung umaasa ka pa sa magulang mo, pwede pa. you cant move without money. you cant eat. you cant get a decent place to live in. you cant clothe yourself. im not saying that money is everything, but it sure makes everything else a lot easier to deal with! :D

Jonga

May 28, 2002, 04:17 AM

yep i agree! that's why i said 'some'!

as for me, i got my first job because i want the money, after a year, i felt like stupid making other people rich. Hard Work in exchange of a measly salary. Not anymore! Now I am still working in this company, but my views were changed, i rather grab more secrets rather than money.

You got it all wrong about the secrets, what i meant is their secrets on how to operate a business, the do's and don'ts when running one, how do they profit? What are the first steps? How to avoid bankruptcy.....i'm talking about running your OWN business!!!

Or maybe the secrets are the things you will need to experience in order to climb your career ladder, to achieve perfection or to serve the community in a much better way.

on the other hand, shempre you will require money in the long run, but it's no longer your main goal in that company.

Then again I agree! The bottom line is money....but money from your own business and not from your employer.

the_BuGs

May 28, 2002, 12:53 PM

:handsdown: :handsdown: :handsdown: :rocker: :rocker:

:rocker: kay Jonga

hodgepodge

May 28, 2002, 03:03 PM

The only reason why I want to work is to gain independence. I can never get that working in a family business.:rolleyes:

Ice Burn

May 28, 2002, 03:45 PM

I'm a professional bum about to turn into a student.
I used to work in a major bank, pay was really good but the job was contractual. The extended me for two months but afterwards, I guess they couldn't make me permanent and extending me again was a violation of the labor code sigh...

Then my parents convinced me to study my M.A. in the US. I actually turned down a couple of good offers because I thought getting an M.A. in the US is my calling and now, I am having 2nd thoughts and to think I'm suppose to leave in two weeks...

hodgepodge

May 29, 2002, 03:28 AM

Ice Burn: Cool! MA in what? Economics?

wpg3

May 29, 2002, 03:44 AM

Originally posted by Jonga

Then again I agree! The bottom line is money....but money from your own business and not from your employer.

but then again, its hard to put up your own business without money :D

Ice Burn

May 29, 2002, 04:32 AM

M.A. in International Public Policy and Management

Jonga

May 29, 2002, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by wpg3

but then again, its hard to put up your own business without money :D

to you maybe...to me ? hmmmmmm...... i can have the money, and still not from my employer, sa business/sariling sikap ko pa rin.

Strange_Dejavu

May 29, 2002, 07:33 AM

Originally posted by Jonga

You got it all wrong about the secrets, what i meant is their secrets on how to operate a business, the do's and don'ts when running one, how do they profit? What are the first steps? How to avoid bankruptcy.....i'm talking about running your OWN business!!!

Or maybe the secrets are the things you will need to experience in order to climb your career ladder, to achieve perfection or to serve the community in a much better way.

how people run their business is THEIR way of doing it. unless they are extremely successful, why not think of newer, better ways to do business? there are no SECRETS in running a successful business. Everything you mentioned above can be read in any of the thousands of excellent business books written by highly successful people in any bookstore.

Do you really want to know the secret of successful people?

The only secret lies in two words:
RIGHT DECISIONS

The secret to making right decisions?
EXPERIENCE

The secret to gaining experience?
WRONG DECISIONS

Behind any successful business is a successful person. There are no secrets.

:D

wpg3

May 29, 2002, 07:41 AM

to you maybe...to me ? hmmmmmm...... i can have the money, and still not from my employer, sa business/sariling sikap ko pa rin.

jonga, well, youre pretty lucky to have your own (or your parents?) money... pero its not that i dont have any money too... if you are really wise, especially when it comes to business, you know that even 5 million in cash right now would not give you a successful business. i might have that money, but i'm not stupid enough to go into just any business. that kind of money would earn more in an investment rather than in a business! going into any business nowadays is very very risky. lalo na ngayon bagsak ang economy. i'd much rather invest my money than go into a business right now. :D believe me, whatever money you have is still not enough :D

hodgepodge

May 29, 2002, 09:37 AM

wpg3: 5 million pesos is a LOT of money for a capital in business! Also, not all businesses are down, depends what kind of business you are talking about. I also disagree with you that putting your money in financial instruments/investments (such as stock market, tds) is safer. Just look at our stock market, not very bullish to me. Keeping your money in a td in a bank does not make sense either, interest rates keep getting lower and lower. Your 5 million td in a bank would just probably give perhaps 20000-50000 (m not sure) interest income quarterly whereas you can easily earn that figure in a couple of days with your own business. But perhaps you know of investments that are more profitable, then pls do share it with us.

Ice Burn: That's nice. Wish I could take an MA also:) I want to be a student again. Though Im planning to take MBA so i really need to work:p

Strange_Dejavu

May 29, 2002, 04:30 PM

guys, wpg3 is right. i think i know what he is talking about. what he's saying is that, yes, 5 million is a lot of money, but then again, your 5 million that you will start your business with, theoretically and most probably, will also yield 5 million. "What you sow is what you reap",

in case you dont know, when you start a business with lets say 5 million, you must have an additonal buffer of maybe at least 2 million in extra cash? why? because in the first three years of starting a business, ang pera, puro labas. labas ng labas yan. when you get your ROI or return on investment, which usually takes at least 2 years, that is the only time that the money starts going back. and also, hindi nyo ba alam kung gaano kasakit sa ulo ang business? the more people you have, the more stress you get! though you are making more money, you are having less time to enjoy it! remember, time is more important than money!
maybe you think that once you have a business you are set for life. you forgot that a business is a temporary entity. it has a life span!

we have to know the difference between BIG money and small money. 5 million is small money if it took you, say, ten years to earn working your *** off. 5 million is big money when it takes you a year to earn it, with minimal stress coupled with time freedom. :D naku wag sa stocks hehe.

i think what is meant by a successful business is not merely getting your investment back in the fastest time possible, but getting increasing returns over time. meaning, you have leveraged yourself enough so that you are NOT working for money, but rather, your money is working for YOU. :D

May 29, 2002, 06:25 PM

nice thoughts guys! real eye-openers!

and fyi, i'll be jobless na starting june. :teehee:

the_BuGs

May 30, 2002, 06:26 AM

Brader MJ Baket??????? nag resign ka na????

wpg3

May 30, 2002, 06:58 PM

bakit naman MJ? ano nangyari?

Jonga

May 31, 2002, 03:35 AM

Strange_Dejavu :
If you say that all the secrets are written in all business books, then maybe all kinds of business operates the same way. That is if they used the books you are refering to. If they used the same books dapat the status of their business are all the same. Pero there is a certain modifier which makes businesses differ from each other, i think you are right, it's the right decisions, how you make decisions, yes it's through experience, but i think it's not only through experience, but also through information. That's the 'secret' i'm talking about. Da**it! why should i learn through wrong decisions if i can learn it through the company i'm working for, sorry i can't afford to lose. Or maybe I can't afford to lose more than the amount i can gain.

summary: The secret i'm talking about is the right decisions, and i want to obtain it not through experience but through information.

Behind a successful business is a successful person, and i'm gonna be one.....i hope so, through 'information' hidden.

:)

wpg3

Believe me, my dad has no consistent job, my mom is just a housewife, we live downtown and we don't have any business. Why should I invest my money to others for them to use my money and get richer? I should be the one using it. Sorry i'm selfish. And one more thing, I believe that it's not the money that makes the business, it's the person with skills, intellect, high spirits and optimism that makes a business successful.

VINCEsanity

May 31, 2002, 06:59 AM

silip lang :)

hodgepodge

May 31, 2002, 10:20 AM

Strange Dejavu: Of course I know that businesses are not permanent. I just see it as a very good alternative if you are getting tired of the corporate life, especially if capital is no problem for you. To start a decent and profitable business, I dont think that you need 5 million as a start up capital. You have to look at the different opportunities in the market. There is nothing wrong with starting small, in fact it gives you less risk. Then if your business is well-managed then youll just see it expand and the expansion costs will not come from your own pocket but from the earnings of your existing business. I also acknowledge the fact "na sakit sa ulo ang tao" but hey, more profits means more risk and hardwork. Its really how well you manage your time and making sure that you enjoy the money youve earned too, d puro work lang. The bottomline is at least you know that the fruits of your labor will be yours alone and not for some company.

Jonga

May 31, 2002, 11:28 AM

exactly!!!

Hail Marx!

Strange_Dejavu

Jun 1, 2002, 06:20 PM

Jonga:

summary: The secret i'm talking about is the right decisions, and i want to obtain it not through experience but through information.

hmmm looks like you still dont get it... right decisions do not come from information. a DECISION is an ACT. you cant KNOW a decision. failure is a prerequisite to success. they are not two different polarities, but rather they are two halves of a whole.

knowledge is not enough, we must apply. willing is not enough, we must do.

all the knowledge in the world will not get you anywhere. If you know the path going to somewhere, will you be able to get there simply by knowing it? i dont think so. you must walk the path, step by step, to reach your destination.

No successful person started out successfully. if you have never experienced failure, do not consider yourself successful yet. :D

" i have failed over and over again in my life........... and that is why i succeed."- Michael Jordan

Hodegepodge:

I dont think that you need 5 million as a start up capital. You have to look at the different opportunities in the market. There is nothing wrong with starting small, in fact it gives you less risk. Then if your business is well-managed then youll just see it expand and the expansion costs will not come from your own pocket but from the earnings of your existing business. I also acknowledge the fact "na sakit sa ulo ang tao" but hey, more profits means more risk and hardwork.

hehehe... i guess your ideas are pretty idealistic... have you personally tried starting a business? just curious.

Tell me, what opportunities are "in the market" right now that will make me financially free in a span of 5 years? you say there's nothing wrong with starting small and i agree, all big things start small. but less risk also means less returns right? you have to agree that the bigger the risk, the bigger the return.

if your capital is smaller than 5M, dont expect to become financially successful doing traditional business :D

competition right now is BIG FISH vs BIG FISH. the small fish are being eaten alive. what chance does your "small" restaurant business have when a McDonalds or Jolibee franchise opens 50 meters away from you? What chance does your "small" outlet or store or supermarket have when Henry Sy plans on building TEN more HUGE SM malls in metro manila in the next 5-10 years? what you said makes some sense, pero let's be realistic. It's going to be BIG vs BIG and the small will desperately cling on till they are wiped out! :D

The fruits of your labor will be yours alone, and you know why? because you wont have enough to share, kulang pa malamang sayo. :D Only when you can freely share the fruits of your labor and make others successful can you be considered successful. :D

Jonga

Jun 2, 2002, 03:52 AM

I am not against any ideas, I respect others's ideas, so I'm not here to change views in life, just wanna share.

ok let's make it simple through fictional examples.

I have a friend, we feel useless in our lives. He shoots his head with a gun! I saw it with my own eye! He died, of course, not solving our problem to be useful in our lives. Does that mean I have to shoot my head too? To experience failure? Now I know it's the wrong decision, maybe I will avoid that decision.

I have a friend who is a businessman, we know that Shakes where on top(Zagu, Orbitz etc.), He built 10 Zagus and 10 Orbitzs. Then the news about Borax in Tapioca sago is poisonous. The market went down rapidly. He was broked.

The wrong Decision: Building up 20 Shakes stand without scrutinizing further the business.

Should I do what my friend did??? no way!
Because I already knew through him, this information was gained without losing something!

Although I maybe am too idealistic. But what the heck! We Jobless Pinoys are the ones who needs to help each other. Boosting up each others morale. And not become trapped in our status. Yes! you will lose something in the long run, but your main option is to minimize that. kuripot ako e hehehehe! :D

Strange_Dejavu
Maybe you can inform us with those wrong decisions you made, but i think you won't, because you want us to experience also those wrong decisions, that's when it becomes a secret, and that's what i'm gonna find out, maybe not from you.

the_BuGs

Jun 2, 2002, 05:19 AM

Making bzness is too risky... u have to accept that.. that's why we have a feasibility study.

Its just like entering in a basketball league. u always think if u gonna win or not.

But u must accept defeat.

Strange_Dejavu

Jun 2, 2002, 07:05 AM

learning from other people's wrong decisions is also a very good tool. this is called OBSERVATION.

now that you KNOW the information, based on others experience, the question is still what are you going to DO about it? information is a tool to achieve success, not the secret to success. it is one of the may factors that contribute to the success of an individual.

let's say you find a map containing information on where a ton of gold is hidden, does that make you wealthy? no. you have to go out and search for it, find it, dig for it, carry it back, etc. Only when you take action will you be able to achieve results.

with your examples, you found out information on what NOT to do. now how do we find out WHAT to do? by going out and doing it.

remember, one must know what to GIVE UP, in order to GO UP.

It is not what happens that is success or failure, but our REACTION to it! :D

the_BuGs

Jun 2, 2002, 03:11 PM

TAMA BA TONG TOPIC NA NAPASUKAN KO?????? :hmm:

:mconfused:

UmaRuma

Jun 2, 2002, 04:15 PM

I had the intention of posting here and describing my "jobless" experience but the discussion turned somewhat way too serious for me...for now that is.

Balik na lang ako pag medyo light-hearted na ulit ang atmosphere. :D

hodgepodge

Jun 2, 2002, 04:31 PM

Strange Dejavu: I have not started a business of my own but that does not mean that it should stop me from doing it just because there are already many established competitors out there. The fact that there are many successful businesses out there means that YES it can be done. Also people will come to you if your product/service is good or even BETTER than your big competitors. Its really a case to case basis, meaning what kind of business you want to start up and what skills/interests you have. For example, I am fluent in Chinese then maybe I can put up a Chinese tutorial center. Do you get me? Of course youre not going to invest your money in a business unprepared. Someone mentioned feasibility/market study, that's reallly needed in a start up business. Now if you dont have the contacts, skills, guts, patience, resourcefulness to start a business, then dont.

Strange_Dejavu

Jun 2, 2002, 05:58 PM

nakaka halata na siguro sila... mukhang mga jobless nga talaga mga tao dito hehehe walang mapag ususapan.

tignan nyo si hodgepodge, galit! :D sineryoso mga sinasabi ko! im not here to be hostile to anyone, im just giving my points of view.

eto sinabi nya oh:
Now if you dont have the contacts, skills, guts, patience, resourcefulness to start a business, then dont.

pare good luck nalang sa chinese tutorial center mo! :D pag kumita yan, pustahan tayo, mag susulputan na yan kung saan saan! that's what i was talking about! :D pero dont tell me what i should or should not do k?

OH TAMA NA TO HA. END OF TOPIC. KUNG GUSTO NYO GANYAN USAPAN SA IBANG THREAD NALANG HEHEHE.

go ahead guys, feel free to share your bumming experiences here :D

the_BuGs

Jun 3, 2002, 04:47 AM

Me tanong lang ako Jonga... jobless ka ba??

Bentong0504

Jun 3, 2002, 05:20 AM

Hello ppl...
wats in here??
well to share my experience or should i say to tell my story hehehe
hmmm.. i am currently jobless now for almost 2 months..hmmm sad story though since i've been terminated for a stupid reason... but lifes doesn't stop there i am now looking for a new job since i am a family man... but also started a small business, a backyard that is....have to continue looking for income thats the sad story if your already have a family to raise and loss a job unexpectedly.
The reason for this is always plan ahead and be optimistic but if your still single then..its another story..

SILENTMAX

Jun 3, 2002, 06:20 AM

uy qualified ako dito
jobless ako.
i feel like a bum.
dude pare i need a job

Bea19

Jun 3, 2002, 06:30 AM

I'm a professional urban bum for 2 months now. Grabe ang hrap maghanap ng work. Yung career and placement office nga sa college ko walang naitulong e. Atska ang problem pa is that companies are looking for people with experience because they don't want to waste their money in training. Haaaayyy so since I was really bored I had the idea that I should go to Law School and in just 3 days nag enroll naman ako. Atleast I have something to do than be a bum at home.;)

hodgepodge

Jun 4, 2002, 04:07 AM

Strange Dejavu: M not galit naman. Just proving my point. :rolleyes:

Jonga

Jun 4, 2002, 04:49 AM

double post

Jonga

Jun 4, 2002, 04:52 AM

Strange_Dejavu: Well I guess I had the great tool named observation!!!:D At least I know that these things I think secrets are great tools. Which will help me not to lose much....or not at all!:D It's great to know the right steps before starting the steps itself, I really liked good experiences rather than bad ones. It's good to have that edge. Thnks!

hodgepodge: Oy! Half Chinese ako, sosyo? hehehe, kool yang bzness na yan, all you need is a good 'big' place accessible to a lot of Chinese Schools and teachers/tutors that will rent a portion of your place....like Masangkay,Manila.

the_Bugs: bbbbrrrraaaaaadddd! magbasa ka ng buong thread.

To All: Just trying to give the idea of starting your own business instead of working for other people and making them rich and instead of bumming around and becoming a useless member of a society. So I guess this is not off topic :)

Bea19 : Bedan Ka?

Bea19

Jun 4, 2002, 10:35 AM

Jonga I'm enrolled in UPHR katapat lang kse ng village namin atska I'm so bored na sa hse e. hehheh

Saikee

Jun 6, 2002, 10:00 AM

Strange_Dejavu im just curious, what work do you do? or what work did u do in the past? what's your background? what did/do u specialize in?

Saikee

Jun 6, 2002, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Strange_Dejavu

OH TAMA NA TO HA. END OF TOPIC. KUNG GUSTO NYO GANYAN USAPAN SA IBANG THREAD NALANG HEHEHE.

go ahead guys, feel free to share your bumming experiences here :D

o, give up ka na? huwag naman. why not have few rounds of friendly verbal joust? :) i don't think the discussion should end here. come on and continue where you left off.

:)

Jonga

Jun 8, 2002, 02:39 AM

Originally posted by Bea19
Jonga I'm enrolled in UPHR katapat lang kse ng village namin atska I'm so bored na sa hse e. hehheh

a ok! kasi sa beda parang ganon e, pagaccounting ka tapos di ka makahanap ng work, diretso law. well i'm not sure, sa IT ako e..:)

reybelde

Jun 27, 2002, 04:24 AM

Beginning today, please welcome me to the world of the unemployed. Lalo pa ngayo't ang hirap pang magjhanap ng trabaho!

Still I can't get over the fact na wala na akong trabaho sa ngayon. Kung di lang kasi ako t@nga...

:drive:

Bear_Halo

Jun 28, 2002, 04:26 AM

Hi guys!!! Welcome me to the club pero I think I've been out of tax paying world longer than all of you. I've been a bum since Feb. And now I'm crawling the walls with frustration, which is ironic because when the job offers came my way I've been declining them and assholing interviews. Oh well...

I've read all of the posts here and yes I agree with all of you and much more. I lost my job because the company I worked for closed down. Well that is somethings and discouraging because it is my first foray into the corporate world. We were all asked to resign because they cannot afford to give us separation pay. What a way to treat people!. But like everything else I subscribed to the philosophy of you win some and you lose some.

The jobmarket today is a crock of ****. Companies are hiring people who are mythical in nature or their offering you a back breaking job with a mediocre salary. Still people we have to work. I guess it is the order of the world. It gets me into the throes of depression.

Sorry if my post is so long, wala kasi lang kong ginagawa eh. Anyway, I think I have several brillian business ideas but unfortunately for me I don't have the capital investment.

Good luck na lang to all of us...