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criticguy

May 31, 2002, 01:41 AM

just an observation and a question to you guys....

info from http://paascu.sphosting.com/index.htm

PAASCU stands for Philippine Accrediting Association of Schools, Colleges and Universities. It is a private, voluntary, non-profit and non-stock corporation which was registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission on December 2, 1957.
PAASCU is a service organization which accredits academic programs which meet commonly accepted standards of quality education.
In November 1967, the Bureau of Education and Culture (now the Department of Education, Culture and Sports) officially recognized PAASCU and endorsed its work as an accrediting agency.

comment.... PAASCU s an accrediting institution, ryt? and i don't think survey or ranking of schools/colleges/universities included....

member schools as of June 2000
Number of Institutions Number of Programs
Graduate 3 7
Tertiary 78 308
High School 132 132
Grade School 118 118
Total 331 565

in short, not ol private high schools/colleges/universities are members of PAASCU, ryt?

comment..... it's very unfair to say dat dis school/college/university
(attained d highest status)
s d best private school/ best private college/ best private university, ryt?

WHAT AREAS ARE EVALUATED DURING THE SURVEY?

During the survey visits, the following areas are evaluated:
1.College/School Community Involvement
2.Faculty
3.Instruction
4.Library
5.Laboratories
6.Physical Plant
7.Student Services
8.Administration

On the grade school level, the area on laboratories (No. 5 above) is omitted; instead, Student Activity Program is added.

PAASCU accreditation of a high school and a grade school is considered program accreditation.

WHICH PROGRAMS ARE ACCREDITED BY PAASCU?

On the college level, PAASCU accredits courses or programs in:
1.Liberal Arts/Sciences
2.Education
3.Commerce
4.Nursing
5.Engineering
6.Agriculture
7.Accountancy
8.Social Work
9.Medical Technology
10.Computer Science
11.Pharmacy
12.Radiologic Technology
13.Physical/Occupational Therapy
14.Interior Design/Fine Arts
15.Architecture
16.Hotel and Restaurant Management
17.Agribusiness

question:

what program/course offerings ng dlsu is/are level 4 status?

from

http://www.dlsu.edu.ph/programs

Undergraduate Degree Programs
Graduate Degree Programs
Diploma Programs

Graduate Degree Program(level 4 ba?)
Undergraduate Degree Program(level 4 ba lahat?)
Diploma Program(level 4 pa rin?)

note: pls give us info about ur level 4 status, k?

comment..... as far as i knw, not d entire university was evaluated for level 4 status....

part of dlsu s level 4 lang at hindi entire university....

now, bkus of dat some la sallians(not ol) claiming/affirming dat "indeed dlsu s d best private university"

agin, PAASCU accredit......and it never ranks d schools/colleges/universities.

4 me, walang "BEST"
level 4 status for some programs lang....

i'm not from PAASCU kaya d ako sure f tama yan, but it's an observation lang po.....

eto ang naresearch ko....

from

http://db.education-world.com/perl/browse?cat_id=5204

Ateneo de Manila University Manila Philippines. This school is the best private university in the Philippines

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to
Sprakatumski,

from *** u said
"
Furthermore, it is just a personalized description for admu in the Website's Search Function.
Moreover, admu was included in the website most probably by a biased Atenean who used the 'Add a site' option w/c is a clear & obvious feature of the site.
Just stating the facts. "

never ako nagedit ha!
ur accusing me (although not directly, but it seems...)

naresearch ko lang yan........ and it's not a philippine-based website.....

to everyone....
PEACE tayo mga pare....

AbulugAdventure

May 31, 2002, 02:36 AM

Buti pa ang La Salle, asa Level 4 na, ang Ateneo, level 4 on applied na! But my former school, San Beda, demoted na! from level 3, baba siya sa Level 2! Ningas kugon kasi ang dating admin namin, e! :grrr:

jeangrey21

May 31, 2002, 03:18 AM

well, agree ako sa observation ni criticguy....

BULLD0GS_FAN

May 31, 2002, 03:32 AM

Agree rin ako na Ateneo ang best private university sa Pinas.

Mga Lasalista lang naman ang nagpupumilit na sila ang best.

Abangan na lang natin. It's just a matter of time before these delusional Lasallites will declare they are the best in the world. Eh kung tutuusin, maski sa Top 1000 schools sa USA, walang La Sallian school eh. Ganun sila kabulok. Buti pa ang Ateneo, nasa Top 50 schools in the USA ang mga Jesuit institutions tulad ng Georgetown, Fordham, Holy Cross, atb. Eh ang La Salle, in absencia ang mga mokong! Mwahahahhahaha :lol:

Bottom line eh tambakan ng mga bobo at slow (hindi lahat ha) ang La Salle.

Yun na ang reputasyon ng skewl bukol nung panahon pa ni Mahoma.

Walang pagbabago ngayon at kailan man.

Once an ebaks, always an ebaks.

Refer to the CHED blacklist of skewls with ebak courses. DLSU is in the honorable mention list.

Puro hype at jumping to conclusions na walang katuturan ang mga mokong na Lasalista na nagpopokleym na magaling sila. Nasobrahan yata sa ecstasy.

Kung hindi ba naman nagbubulagan. Alam naman nila na fallback choice lang La Salle ng mga hindi pumasa sa Ateneo, UP at UST. Yun ang role nila sa society. Basurahan in ader words.

Yun truth lang po.

Walang istiran.

Basta NU Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.:D

criticguy

May 31, 2002, 03:50 AM

hey guys!!!!!

i'm just asking lang......

what programs/course offerings ng dlsu s/are PAASCU's level 4 status? lahat ba?

any info?

pati diploma programs?

lahat ng graduate programs?

lahat ng undergraduate programs?

or

d entire university?

agin, i'm asking...................

any data/article/report or anything to support.....

sa ngayon kasi, general ang level 4 status nyo....

ano ba yan? entire univ **** ang level 4?(don't thnk so kus ders an area of evaluation and program accreditation.... refer PAASCU site)

or some programs lang......

we want support evidences from PAASCU.....

tnx!

PEACE TAYO HA......

BULLD0GS_FAN

May 31, 2002, 03:55 AM

Nagkakabukingan na ang mga hypesters.

Mwahahahahhahahahahaha :lol:

Op cors, sasabihin nila na buong university ay Level 4.

Pati na rin ang ebak-ish course na nasa blacklist ng CHED.

Mwehehehehehhehehehe :evil_lol:

Abangan nating lahat ang susunod na kabanata na tawag na....

Panagimpan IV: DLSU- Best University sa Pinas sa guni-guni ng mga durogista at nagsashabu. Tinibang Ngunit Kulang sa Kuko Ng Liwanag.

Mwhehehhehehehhehehe :lol:

criticguy

May 31, 2002, 06:01 AM

la salle knows best?

la sallian concern and d like.....

pls naman, pwede ba hingi ng side nyo?

i just want 2 b fair para naman d kayo pagtawanan ni bulldogs...

Greener_Pasture

Sprakatumski

Crescent

RECORDER

Spark

Green_Balance

PaulineM_Reyes

Spadia

nerdox

where are you na????????????

to repeat.................................once again....

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i'm just asking lang......

what programs/course offerings ng dlsu s/are PAASCU's level 4 status? lahat ba?

any info?

pati diploma programs?

lahat ng graduate programs?

lahat ng undergraduate programs?

or

d entire university?

agin, i'm asking...................

any data/article/report or anything to support.....

sa ngayon kasi, general ang level 4 status nyo....

ano ba yan? entire univ **** ang level 4?(don't thnk so kus ders an area of evaluation and program accreditation.... refer PAASCU site)

or some programs lang......

we want support evidences from PAASCU.....

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waiting 4 ur reply............................................

tnx! and as always, PEACE.....................

cutegirl2002

May 31, 2002, 09:22 AM

what a nice observation.
;)

wala pa yatang reply from a la sallian.

i hope meron na para naman maliwanagan si criticguy.

:D

BMW_joe

May 31, 2002, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by criticguy
la salle knows best?

la sallian concern and d like.....

pls naman, pwede ba hingi ng side nyo?

i just want 2 b fair para naman d kayo pagtawanan ni bulldogs...

Greener_Pasture

Sprakatumski

Crescent

RECORDER

Spark

Green_Balance

PaulineM_Reyes

Spadia

nerdox

where are you na????????????

to repeat.................................once again....

-------------------------------------------------------
i'm just asking lang......

what programs/course offerings ng dlsu s/are PAASCU's level 4 status? lahat ba?

any info?

pati diploma programs?

lahat ng graduate programs?

lahat ng undergraduate programs?

or

d entire university?

agin, i'm asking...................

any data/article/report or anything to support.....

sa ngayon kasi, general ang level 4 status nyo....

ano ba yan? entire univ **** ang level 4?(don't thnk so kus ders an area of evaluation and program accreditation.... refer PAASCU site)

or some programs lang......

we want support evidences from PAASCU.....

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waiting 4 ur reply............................................

tnx! and as always, PEACE.....................

As far as I know, level four(4) is given on an institutional basis. Institutional meaning the whole university has been given that status. gets?

AbulugAdventure

May 31, 2002, 10:22 AM

Alam niyo Level 4 status in a school means they have international school standards. LaSalle first to achieve it, Maybe AdMU will follow (sana po, sana po?), tapos you are bashing that school?

:rolleyes:

criticguy

May 31, 2002, 11:09 AM

Originally posted by AbulugAdventure
Alam niyo Level 4 status in a school means they have international school standards. LaSalle first to achieve it, Maybe AdMU will follow (sana po, sana po?), tapos you are bashing that school?

:rolleyes:

before you comment.... read about PAASCU

here s d site....

http://paascu.sphosting.com/index.htm

on this thread, d ako nagbash sa DLSU...

infact i'm asking der side... ok?

once again.....

i'm asking dis

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what programs/course offerings ng dlsu s/are PAASCU's level 4 status? lahat ba?

any info?

pati diploma programs?

lahat ng graduate programs?

lahat ng undergraduate programs?

or

d entire university?

agin, i'm asking...................

any data/article/report or anything to support.....

sa ngayon kasi, general ang level 4 status nyo....

ano ba yan? entire univ **** ang level 4?(don't thnk so kus ders an area of evaluation and program accreditation.... refer PAASCU site)

or some programs lang......

we want support evidences from PAASCU.....

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from BMW_joe
"
As far as I know, level four(4) is given on an institutional basis. Institutional meaning the whole university has been given that status. gets?"

using d words "as far as I know" means ur not sure....
ano ba ang basis mo 4 saying dat....

4 more info... read PAASCU's site...

http://paascu.sphosting.com/index.htm

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we want correct statement on ur level 4 status, yun lang!
dapat galing mismo sa PAASCU, wag yung mga personalized opinion d ba?

masama ba ang magtanong?

peace ulit mga pare...
:p :p :p

criticguy

May 31, 2002, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by AbulugAdventure
Alam niyo Level 4 status in a school means they have international school standards. LaSalle first to achieve it, Maybe AdMU will follow (sana po, sana po?), tapos you are bashing that school?

:rolleyes:

before you comment.... read about PAASCU

here s d site....

http://paascu.sphosting.com/index.htm

on this thread, d ako nagbash sa DLSU...

infact i'm asking der side... ok?

once again.....

i'm asking dis

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what programs/course offerings ng dlsu s/are PAASCU's level 4 status? lahat ba?

any info?

pati diploma programs?

lahat ng graduate programs?

lahat ng undergraduate programs?

or

d entire university?

agin, i'm asking...................

any data/article/report or anything to support.....

sa ngayon kasi, general ang level 4 status nyo....

ano ba yan? entire univ **** ang level 4?(don't thnk so kus ders an area of evaluation and program accreditation.... refer PAASCU site)

or some programs lang......

we want support evidences from PAASCU.....

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

from BMW_joe
"
As far as I know, level four(4) is given on an institutional basis. Institutional meaning the whole university has been given that status. gets?"

using d words "as far as I know" means ur not sure....
ano ba ang basis mo 4 saying dat....

4 more info... read about PAASCU on dis site...

http://paascu.sphosting.com/index.htm

------

we want correct statement on ur level 4 status, yun lang!
dapat galing mismo sa PAASCU, wag yung mga personalized opinion d ba?

masama ba ang magtanong?

peace ulit mga pare...
:p :p :p

AbulugAdventure

May 31, 2002, 12:39 PM

You misinterpreted me on my usage of the pronoun "you", aren't you? I am NOT singling you out. I am talking to bashers out there.

It is you who need to read before you comment. :p

criticguy

May 31, 2002, 12:52 PM

Originally posted by AbulugAdventure
You misinterpreted me on my usage of the pronoun "you", aren't you? I am NOT singling you out. I am talking to bashers out there.

It is you who need to read before you comment. :p

well, ok fine! i misinterpreted you...

sorry f ganun...

but still not relevant....

f ur a la sallian, then you have 2 answer my question.....

i hope it's not a personalized description/perception/opinion...

let's have basis.... and straight to the point....

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i'm just asking lang......

what programs/course offerings ng dlsu s/are PAASCU's level 4 status? lahat ba?

any info?

pati diploma programs?

lahat ng graduate programs?

lahat ng undergraduate programs?

or

d entire university?

agin, i'm asking...................

any data/article/report or anything to support.....

sa ngayon kasi, general ang level 4 status nyo....

ano ba yan? entire univ **** ang level 4?(don't thnk so kus ders an area of evaluation and program accreditation.... refer PAASCU site)

or some programs lang......

we want support evidences from PAASCU.....

----------------------------------------------------------------

still, waiting for ur reply

PEACE

:p :p :p

AbulugAdventure

May 31, 2002, 12:55 PM

I am not a Lasallite. I am just a plain PExer want morons out of PEx. ;) :D

criticguy

May 31, 2002, 01:02 PM

Originally posted by AbulugAdventure
I am not a Lasallite. I am just a plain PExer want morons out of PEx. ;) :D

lol.....

tnx .... sana totoo dat ur not a la sallian....

still, i respect u.

PEACE...:p :p :p

AbulugAdventure

May 31, 2002, 01:06 PM

Ok, I tell you, I am an AMAer taking up ECE, but I don't want the campus of AMA I am in, so I wanna transfer to Ateneo or La salle if I make the grade. ;)

AlphaOmega

May 31, 2002, 06:27 PM

Have the Lasallians produced an actual statement from PAASCU or CHED proclaiming their school is the best school? Or are we just relying on their hearsay and innuendos?

I agree with criticguy's comments and questions above. We need facts from the propagandists.

I also think that the foreign website that proclaims the Ateneo as the best private school in the Philippines is a far more credible source than a propaganda being promulgated by the Lasallians (who else?). For one, it conforms more closely to reality. Secondly, it's unbiased.

Let peace reign in PEx.

alikishi

May 31, 2002, 11:37 PM

**from another post**

but i do believe making #2 based on statement #1 is erroneous and misses a step in logic. from what i know (and correct me if i am wrong), accreditations by the paascu are scheduled. i think, big universities such as ateneo, la salle, etc. are normally granted a 10 year frame before re-accreditation. if la salle were up for accreditation earlier than ateneo or ust or whatever university, and they earned level iv status, then surely they are the first to receive it simply because they were the first ones scheduled to be assessed and accredited. if ateneo or ust were scheduled first and received the accreditation, would they automatically have the right to claim they're the best simply because they were first? it's not like the "gift" of level iv status is arbitarily voted on by a board at any given time. accreditation by paascu is scheduled. la salle just happened to be first on the list.

and if ever level 4 is given to the whole la salle-manila institution, there is still no basis on saying that they are the best university...

guttfil

Jun 1, 2002, 12:23 AM

Originally posted by AbulugAdventure
Ok, I tell you, I am an AMAer taking up ECE, but I don't want the campus of AMA I am in, so I wanna transfer to Ateneo or La salle if I make the grade. ;)
Take my advise... go to ateneo.

So what if La Salle's ECE is a Center of Excellence. At least sa ateneo kahit nasa infancy stage pa lang ang ECE the best naman ang philosophy and theology subjects -- this is what ms. tesseract and this Fek-fek guy will always say.

Bullyd0g

Jun 1, 2002, 04:02 AM

Originally posted by guttfil

Take my advise... go to ateneo.

So what if La Salle's ECE is a Center of Excellence. At least sa ateneo kahit nasa infancy stage pa lang ang ECE the best naman ang philosophy and theology subjects -- this is what ms. tesseract and this Fek-fek guy will always say.

Siyempre mas magaling talaga ang Ateneo. Mas mautak ang mga estudyante at mas malupit ang standards.

Sa La Salle, mahirap na at baka mahawa ka pa sa kabobohan ng mga klasmeyts mo.

Importante ang environment 'no.

Kung slow ang nasa paligid mo, baka maging slow ka rin.

Kaya kung pumasa ka sa Ateneo, dun ka na.

La Salle pwedeng fallback mo na lang. Yun naman ang role ng La Salle eversince it was established. The Fallback Choice.

Mwehehehhehehhehehehehehe :lol:

Yun truth lang po.

PS
Oo nga pals..., wala pa ring matinong sagot sa mga tanong at comments ni criticguy. Barado na ang mga propaganda machine ng La Salle. Lalong nagmukhang ebaks si greener_manure, sprakatumski, Atomic_utot, et al.

Ganun talaga. Once an ebaks, always an ebaks.

Live ebaks in our minds.

alikishi

Jun 1, 2002, 06:55 AM

Siyempre mas magaling talaga ang Ateneo. Mas mautak ang mga estudyante at mas malupit ang standards.

Sa La Salle, mahirap na at baka mahawa ka pa sa kabobohan ng mga klasmeyts mo.

Importante ang environment 'no.

Kung slow ang nasa paligid mo, baka maging slow ka rin.

Kaya kung pumasa ka sa Ateneo, dun ka na.

La Salle pwedeng fallback mo na lang. Yun naman ang role ng La Salle eversince it was established. The Fallback Choice.

Mwehehehhehehhehehehehehe

Yun truth lang po.

PS
Oo nga pals..., wala pa ring matinong sagot sa mga tanong at comments ni criticguy. Barado na ang mga propaganda machine ng La Salle. Lalong nagmukhang ebaks si greener_manure, sprakatumski, Atomic_utot, et al.

Ganun talaga. Once an ebaks, always an ebaks.

Live ebaks in our minds.

alam mo, hindi lang mga la sallites ang naiinis sa iyo ... pati mga ateneans rin naiinis na sa iyo

Sprakatumski

Jun 1, 2002, 07:38 AM

Syempre, kasi damay kayo sa fellow Atenean ninyo noh... :p

Anyway,

Wonder why there are no Lasallians replying on this thread...

Coz it's useless and pathetic dwelling on a thread specially made for SOUR GRAPING and INSECURE ATENEANS. :bdayfrown: :bdayfrown: :bdayfrown:

Kayu-kayo lang ang nananaginip at nagce-celebrate sa thread na 'to. :bdayfrown:

Yun truth lang po.

Peace. :)

AbulugAdventure

Jun 1, 2002, 02:31 PM

alikishi

Jun 1, 2002, 04:17 PM

Syempre, kasi damay kayo sa fellow Atenean ninyo noh...

Anyway,

Wonder why there are no Lasallians replying on this thread...

Coz it's useless and pathetic dwelling on a thread specially made for SOUR GRAPING and INSECURE ATENEANS.

Kayu-kayo lang ang nananaginip at nagce-celebrate sa thread na 'to.

Yun truth lang po.

Peace.

isa ka pa diyan Sprakatumski. Bago ka magsalita eh siguruhin mo muna na tama ang sinasabi mo

Bullydogs

Jun 2, 2002, 03:17 AM

Walang masagot na matino ang mga mokong na Lasalista sa mga questions ni criticguy. Galing ni criticguy ha.

Tameme ang mga Lasalista.

Galing ng sources mo ha, criticguy. Mga objective, third parties at international websites na nagpo-prokleym na Ateneo ang da best private school sa Pinas.

May credibility talaga.

'Di tulad ng mga propaganda ng mga Lasalista na nanggagaling sa kani-kanila mismo ang papuri sa kanilang skewl bukol na ebaks. Halatang mga KSP at desperado. Kasi naman walang mga self esteem at super bobo at slow. What can you say?

Patawarin na lang natin ang mga bobiski.

As vivid_upian said correctly, "nakakatawang nakakaawa" at pathetic ang mga Lasalista. Walang binobola kundi ang sarili nila. Halatang mga desperado sa naguumapaw na kabobohan sa Tafat.

Da best kuno ehh alam ng buong Pinas na glorified tambakan ang DLSU ng mga slowwwww at rejects ng Ateneo, UP at UST. Baka sa basketbol, pwede pa. Pero sa akademiks, nyekkkkkk.. ang daming intellectually-challenged dun.

Nuff said.

Yun truth lang po.

Basta NU Rulezzzzzzzz!

bulldog_double

Jun 2, 2002, 03:49 AM

Originally posted by AbulugAdventure
I am not a Lasallite. I am just a plain PExer want morons out of PEx. ;) :D

I suppose that doesn't include you because you are just an imbecile. :p

green_thinker

Jun 2, 2002, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by Sprakatumski
Syempre, kasi damay kayo sa fellow Atenean ninyo noh... :p

Anyway,

Wonder why there are no Lasallians replying on this thread...

Coz it's useless and pathetic dwelling on a thread specially made for SOUR GRAPING and INSECURE ATENEANS. :bdayfrown: :bdayfrown: :bdayfrown:

Kayu-kayo lang ang nananaginip at nagce-celebrate sa thread na 'to. :bdayfrown:

Yun truth lang po.

Peace. :)

i agree!

BraDsHawGoDdesS

Jun 2, 2002, 09:41 AM

ako lasalyano (not lasalista nor lasallite dahil lassalian). yup level 4 na ***... last yr kasi nag-paascu kami tapos yun ang result, promote to level 4. nakapost sa labas ng campus... tingnan nyo pa...

ateneo will have their passcu sa december (kami rin last dec). baka they'll be the 2nd na maging level 4... nauna lang *** ng 1 yr kasi yun ang sked ng paascu namin.

questions????

im neither biased nor joining the atenean-lassalian feud. my best friends are from ateneo.

tesseract

Jun 2, 2002, 05:46 PM

Hulk

Jun 2, 2002, 06:58 PM

criticguy: It seems nobody really fully understands the Level 4 status. Why don't you write PAASCU and ask them your clarificatory questions. *okay*

:frank:

Bullydogs

Jun 3, 2002, 04:26 AM

Galing 'to sa thread na entitled "DLSU: Best Philippines' School."

Sana magdemandahan na para matigil 'tong mga panatikong Lasalista.

Originally posted by poohkielakie
I believe that the link bulldog is trying to post is kinda outdated check this link instead and look for DLSU:

http://db.education-world.com/perl/browse?cat_id=11732

"De La Salle University - Manila This academic institution is the best private University in the Philippines. The school is duly recognized by the Philippines' CHED, PAASCU, and FAAD."

ANOTHER THINGthe ateneo posting in there just states that they are the best but without accreditation or basis why they say they are the best....my friend emailed the people from that website and he asked why there are two best private university in the Philippines, according to the people from that site they post Ateneo as the best private university because they asked a friend working in the said sublevel university (who happened to be one of their affiliate) what is the best private university in the Philippines and of course with 101% proof of bias the guy said of course that Ateneo is the best...but after reading and doing some valid research and not just word of mouth research they found out that DLSU is "really" the best private university in the Philippines. well hows that to end this bigotry of the idiot bulldog, if you are really smart you wouldnt just take anything that is posted in the net as your evidence, tsk tsk mr. de veza will really kick your lame a s s sucker. tsk tsk. dream on dog! roll! sit! play dead! i really hope you are!

Hala kayo. Pinalitan niyo ang nakapost sa website because of your misinformation campaign. Sobra na.

Tinamper niyo ang information tungkol sa Ateneo. Mas malala pa, pinatanggal niyo ang Ateneo de Manila sa site.

Sana paimbestigahan ng Ateneo kung sino ang nagpalit ng information para madimanda kayo. Siguradong ma-te-trace ang identity ng mga mokong. May email tracer di ba? Hala!

Halatang pikon na pikon kayo. Nagiging kriminal pa kayo.

Di na bale kung i-hype niyo ang DLSU as the best private university kasi wala namang naniniwala sa inyo kundi kayo-kayo lang.

Pero kung pinatanggal niyo ang Ateneo de Manila sa website, iba na yon. Pwede kayong madimanda ng Ateneo.

Sana nga.

Neweis, bakit yung pangalawang website hindi niyo magalaw. Remember, dalawa yung websites na nagsasabi na Ateneo is da best?

Newei, calling all Ateneans, especially the lawyers, ..... Ipagtanggol niyo ang inyong karapatan. Pinakialaman ng mga panatikong Lasalista yung information sa website. Tinanggal nila ang Ateneo na naka-described na "best private university in the Philippines", tapos pinalitan nila ang write-up about DLSU. DLSU kuno is da best. Tampering with information re Ateneo. That's a crime. Ateneans, go sue the Lasalistas.

Mwehehehehehhehehe :lol:

Good luck na lang sprakatumski (aka poohkielaki, greener_manure, patjo, etc.) Matuto sana kayo. Kita-kits sa kulungan.

Mwhahahahhahahhahaha :lol:

Halatang masama na ang tama ng mga mokong. Nagiging-kriminal na.

NU Rulezzzzzzzzzz!

psychic_psycho

Jun 3, 2002, 12:16 PM

With regards to the topic...I can not really answer criticguy's queries, due to insufficient knowledge regarding the PAASCU. However, I do want to comment about something....

DLSU itself, is not the only one to say they're the best private university in the country. If it does claim that they're the best...then I suppose you might see it written all over the streamers posted inside and outside the campus. Furthermore, a local newspaper published an article saying the DLSU is the best private university in the Philippines...I do not also suppose that they would print such an article if it was proven to be true.

Ateneo is also going to go through the PAASCU....and I think they'd actually get promoted to Level 4 as well. This is for very reason, ADMU offer such reputable courses.....and produce reputable grads....just like DLSU. I believe that it is not fair or right to compare the two renowned schools in the country....primarily because they both excel in different fields. Hence, one can not really conclude that one is better than the other...

Now...Ateneans....if guys are truly bashing my beloved alma mater...DLSU...then may I suggest that you guys just stop it. I respect Ateneans....basically because I have a lot of friends there....and I sometimes look up to you guys....

Bashers....Quit while you're ahead...cause I'm sure that some of your schools won't even be able what we have accomplished.

Also it isn't true that DLSU is the fallback school.....I myself, got accepted in other schools but chose to go to DLSU...I had my reasons..let's just respect each other's.

PEACE OUT! *okay*

ANIMO LA SALLE!!!

Bullydogs

Jun 3, 2002, 06:00 PM

Originally posted by psychic_psycho
DLSU itself, is not the only one to say they're the best private university in the country. If it does claim that they're the best...then I suppose you might see it written all over the streamers posted inside and outside the campus. Furthermore, a local newspaper published an article saying the DLSU is the best private university in the Philippines...I do not also suppose that they would print such an article if it was proven to be true.

Basahin mo ang article at magiging obyus na sinulat ng isang Lasalista yung article, "DLSU: The Best School in the Philippines."

Sabi nga ni Vivid_UPian, "Nakakatawang Nakakaawa" ang article.

Bakit kamo?

Obyus na obyus na promotional campaign lang ng DLSU.

Puwes, kung best private university in the Philippines, hindi nga da best ang DLSU kasi Ateneo ang da best private school. Da best iskul sa Pinas pa kaya?

Ang lakas namang managinip ng mga taga-La Salle. Kung gagawa rin kayo ng article, make sure na kapani-paniwala naman. Hindi yung parang fairy tale tulad ng sinulat niyo. In ader words, walang credibility ang article. Nagbuhuhat lang ng sariling bangko ang mga delusyonado.

Newei, peace din sa 'yo. Tama yung ibang puntos mo.

NU Rulezzzzzzz!

Sprakatumski

Jun 3, 2002, 08:11 PM

obvious na inggit ka lang kasi yung pinakamamahal mong alma mater (ateneo) ay panay false self hype lang. kahit tabloid, walang suporta sa inyo. :shrug2:

yun truth lang po.

Peace. :)

Bullydogs

Jun 3, 2002, 09:41 PM

Mas lalong inggit ang mga panatikong Lasalista. KSP. Kaya panay gawa ng sariling pang-hype para lang may pumansin sa kanila.

Plagiarism tapos falsifying the info sa website na nagsasabing "Ateneo is the the best private school in the Philippines." Halatang mga pikon at desperado.

Sana nga mademanda ang mga guilty tulad ni poohkielakie, sprakatumski, greener_manure, atb.

Tapos gagawa ng article, "DLSU- The Best School in the Philippines", ehh palpak pa. Halatang promotional campaign ng DLSU.

As the wise person Vivid_UPian said, "Nakakatawang Nakakaawaa" ang article.

Bakit?

Kasi in the first place, obyus na hindi da best private school ang DLSU. Ateneo is da best. Kaya mas lalong absurd na sabihin na da best school in the Philippines.

O....natauhan kayo 'no. Buking na personalized advertisement ng DLSU ang article na pinagyayabang niyo.

Iimbento kayo ng pakana, palpak pa.

Next time, try staying closer to reality.

Yung tulad ng "DLSU has elevated itself from its ebaks status.".... at least kung ganito, baka may mabola pa kayo.

Try niyo gamutin ng kaunting utak next time ha.

That is, kung meron kayo nun.

Mwhahahahhahahhahaha :lol:

Buldogs strikes again and wins!!!!!

Basta NU Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

guttfil

Jun 4, 2002, 01:28 AM

Originally posted by AbulugAdventure

Ngek! Kaya nga ko lilipat kasi I want the best ECE school, e. Tapos ipapafeed mo sa kin ay philo and theo? I had enough of those subjects already. New lang pala ang ECE sa Ateneo, so my choice goes to LaSalle, wala na, e.
Although LaSalle has been lording it over in the ECE board exam (they got the 1st place in the last three(3) consecutive april exams), it won't be long before ateneo catch up / surpass them.

ECE is ateneo's first engineering venture (count out their other fake eng'g degree--mgt.eng'g). For sure andito ang focus ngayon ng mga jesuits and they are pressured to succeed. With the help of generous and influential alumni (most esp. Manay Pangilinan) it can't go wrong.

Actually, it is because of Manay P. kaya nagkaroon ng ECE ang ateneo (Manay controls telecommunication giant - PLDT). He even put up a new building at ateneo- the Teleconvergence Center specifically for their ECEs and MIS. Talk about Suharto money in the works.

And ateneo is now getting/pirating/acquiring the best high school graduates aspiring for an ECE degree (in the tradition of Top Rookie -- see the UAAP forum). So.. its only a matter of time before ateneo will be no#1 in ECE.

And malay mo, ma-typepan ka ni Manay P. gawing kang fafa, eh di ultra rich ka pa!

AbulugAdventure

Jun 4, 2002, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by guttfil

Although LaSalle has been lording it over in the ECE board exam (they got the 1st place in the last three(3) consecutive april exams), it won't be long before ateneo catch up / surpass them.

ECE is ateneo's first engineering venture (count out their other fake eng'g degree--mgt.eng'g). For sure andito ang focus ngayon ng mga jesuits and they are pressured to succeed. With the help of generous and influential alumni (most esp. Manay Pangilinan) it can't go wrong.

Actually, it is because of Manay P. kaya nagkaroon ng ECE ang ateneo (Manay controls telecommunication giant - PLDT). He even put up a new building at ateneo- the Teleconvergence Center specifically for their ECEs and MIS. Talk about Suharto money in the works.

And ateneo is now getting/pirating/acquiring the best high school graduates aspiring for an ECE degree (in the tradition of Top Rookie -- see the UAAP forum). So.. its only a matter of time before ateneo will be no#1 in ECE.

And malay mo, ma-typepan ka ni Manay P. gawing kang fafa, eh di ultra rich ka pa!

Ngek! Yikes! :wow: :eek:

Wag na uy. Ano ba ang criteia para maka-transfer sa Ate? Sana tri-sem din sila. :( Kungdi sa LaSalle na lang ako..) Sana ma-achieve ko ang GPA re quirement ng Ateneo para dun me. :)

Post ka sa thread ko. I need help kasi, e. :(

qwert

Jun 4, 2002, 04:10 AM

criticguy

Jun 4, 2002, 06:14 AM

ano ba kayo?

nag-aaway.........

natatawa ako sa inyo.................

ang thread na ito is about DLSU's level 4 status....

mga tanong ko based on my observations....

so far, walang sufficient na basis/proof/evidences..........

......

dat question ay para sa mga LA SALLISTANG ( at hindi sa DLSU generally )na nagsasabi na d best private univ raw ang dlsu kus binabasehan nila ang PAASCU's level 4 status...

and yet hindi naman pala nila maiibigay ang mga information na dapat namin malaman, d b?

so sana naman ( pakiusap ) huwag nyo sabihin na ang dlsu s d best private university.... bkus of PAASCU's level 4 status...

at the end kayo ang kawawa.... wala kayong basis...

some programs lang ng dlsu ang level 4 status.....d b?

peace...........

criticguy

Jun 4, 2002, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by Sprakatumski
Anyway,

Wonder why there are no Lasallians replying on this thread...

Coz it's useless and pathetic dwelling on a thread specially made for SOUR GRAPING and INSECURE ATENEANS. :bdayfrown: :bdayfrown: :bdayfrown:

Kayu-kayo lang ang nananaginip at nagce-celebrate sa thread na 'to. :bdayfrown:

Peace. :)

well said................i'm expecting talaga na kakaunti lang na la sallian ang magrereply sa thread na 'to.........

u knw y?

wala kasi maireply....................

wala pa kayong nahanap na proof....

saan na ba ang sinasabi nyo na solid facts? ***** naging 'gas facts o liquid facts'...................

tameme na lang muna kayo at baka maout of topic/out of thread kayo.......... d b?

peace

dekster

Jun 4, 2002, 09:16 AM

I'm not saying that lasalle is the best in the Philippines because of the PAASCU promotion; I'm just glad we were given this status. It is nevertheless an achievement whether or not being the first means anything...

just some questions though...

1) Has any school applied and been denied for this level IV status?

2) How are the accreditations scheduled?

criticguy

Jun 4, 2002, 09:36 AM

Originally posted by dekster
I'm not saying that lasalle is the best in the Philippines because of the PAASCU promotion; I'm just glad we were given this status. It is nevertheless an achievement whether or not being the first means anything...

just some questions though...

1) Has any school applied and been denied for this level IV status?

2) How are the accreditations scheduled?

nice comment.............

sana lahat ng la sallian katulad mo............

daming la sallian na nagsasabi na d best ang dlsu dahil sa paascu's level 4........... eh d nga natin alam kung anu nga ang mga paascu's standard..............

unless clear ang proof/evidence at confirm ng ched ang lahat.......
pwede na natin sabihin ang d best.............

meanwhile, sasabihin lang natin na

dlsu s d 1st univ na nakaachieve ng level 4 status ng paascu(pero some programs lang d b?)

congrats 4 dat................

peace

criticguy

Jun 4, 2002, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Hulk
criticguy: It seems nobody really fully understands the Level 4 status. Why don't you write PAASCU and ask them your clarificatory questions. *okay*

:frank:

yup................

wala nga siguro..................

nobody...................

kaya lang, nakakainis yung nagpapabilib........ eh wala palang enuff basis/proof man lang............

ako mismo.......... d ko alam..... ano ba talaga ang real standard ng paascu eh!!!!

ang tanong ko lang talaga........ bakit at bakit sinasabi nila na dlsu s d best private univ? ginagamit ba naman ang paascu.....
at kung tanungin......... ayaw naman sagutin........

dahil nga kakaunti lang ang alam nila sa paascu.......

f kung ganun...........
wag na lang nila isensationalized ang level 4 status.........

level 4 status means best para sa kanila.........

nakakaawang isipin d b?

ok na sana ang achievements nila....... ang mali, dami ang sinasabi............

PEACE

riza_arnaud

Jun 4, 2002, 11:49 AM

Just a question... nauna "daw" mag-level 4 ang COLLEGE OF COMPUTER STUDIES ng DLSU Manila? Would anyone confirm this? I've heard this before... ewan ko lang kung totoo... then again maybe I'm wrong. :D

ANIMO,
riza_arnaud

scoobydoobydoo

Jun 4, 2002, 12:44 PM

:dazzler: helow!!!

hay nako!!! hindi na matitigil ang pag-iinsulto ninyo sa mga schools lalo na sa DLSU!!!

Lahat naman ng schools the best! Syempre may kanya kanya yang specialties!!! Like in UP halos lahat, sa DLSU BS ECE, ChE, Accountancy, CBE, etc..., sa Ateneo sa AB courses lalo na sa Law, sa UST Accountancy and Medicine pati Nursing at syempre pati yung ibang school!!!

Okay??? So sana wala nang magbabash!!!

Let's accept the fact na #2 na and DLSU! Im not saying this because Im from DLSU but in my opinion lamang po!!!

So sana matigil na ang mga pangbabash ha????

Remember, ang mga mangyuyurak at mangbubuska sa mga ibang schools, naiinggit lang sila, at lumalabas ang kanilang tunay na kulay kaya ang nangyayari, nilalagyan nila ng kasiraan ang kanilang eskwelan!!! Okay???

UP Fight! Animo Lasalle! One Big Fight! Go USTe! Viva to all schools!

Bullydogs

Jun 5, 2002, 11:12 AM

DLSU Level -IV ("palpak") in terms of quality of students. Mostly, latak and rejects of Ateneo, UP ang UST. Ang daming slowwwwwwww.

Yun truth lang po.

Basta NU Rulezzzzzzz!

criticguy

Jun 5, 2002, 11:48 AM

quote:
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Originally posted by Hulk
criticguy: It seems nobody really fully understands the Level 4 status. Why don't you write PAASCU and ask them your clarificatory questions.

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yup................

wala nga siguro..................

nobody...................

kaya lang, nakakainis yung nagpapabilib........ eh wala palang enuff basis/proof man lang............

ako mismo.......... d ko alam..... ano ba talaga ang real standard ng paascu eh!!!!

ang tanong ko lang talaga........ bakit at bakit sinasabi nila na dlsu s d best private univ? ginagamit ba naman ang paascu.....
at kung tanungin......... ayaw naman sagutin........

dahil nga kakaunti lang ang alam nila sa paascu.......

f kung ganun...........
wag na lang nila isensationalized ang level 4 status.........

level 4 status means best para sa kanila.........

nakakaawang isipin d b?

ok na sana ang achievements nila....... ang mali, dami ang sinasabi............

PEACE

panicroom

Jun 6, 2002, 02:00 AM

ano nga level 4 status ng la salle?

pero i like la salle's facilities.

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 01:39 AM

1. Anong CHED ORDER NO.___ na nagasasabing "duly recognized" ng Commission On Higher Education (CHED )ang dlsu bilang best private university?

2. Saang documents ng PAASCU mababasa na ang dlsu ang best private university?

3. Anu-ano nga ba ang mga programs/course offerings ng dlsu na nasa level 4 na?

4. Ang DIPLOMA PROGRAMS ba ng dlsu ay may level status rin?

more questions next time.

PEACE.

Bullydogs

Jun 8, 2002, 04:51 AM

Originally posted by criticguy
1. Anong CHED ORDER NO.___ na nagasasabing "duly recognized" ng Commission On Higher Education (CHED )ang dlsu bilang best private university?

2. Saang documents ng PAASCU mababasa na ang dlsu ang best private university?

3. Anu-ano nga ba ang mga programs/course offerings ng dlsu na nasa level 4 na?

4. Ang DIPLOMA PROGRAMS ba ng dlsu ay may level status rin?

more questions next time.

PEACE.

Walang credible source ang nagsasabi na DLSU ang da best kundi ang mga mokong na Lasalista mismo.

Obyus ba.

Ang artikel mismo na galing sa Business World ek ek is nothing but a propaganda of DLSU. Sinulat ng isang panatikong Lasalista, malamang si greener_manure.

Pay attention to the first person references sa artikel. Mga usage ng pronouns tulad ng "I", "We" and "Us."

Kaya itigil na ang pagBOBOlahan. Walang nabobola kundi ang mga panatikong Lasalista lang.

Bottom line,

1. DLSU is still da tambakan of the rejects ng Ateneo, UP at UST. Ganun na ang reputasyon ng DLSU nung panahon pa ng ating mga ninuno. Hanggang ngayon, walang pagkakaiba.

2. Mababa ang akademik standards sa La Salle. Madali lang makapasok dun. Madali lang makapasa. Madali lang maging honors. Dime a dozen talaga. Ang cheap 'no?

3. Mga summa, magna at cum laude ay napakadami. Binabargeyn talaga. Parang divisoria. In ader words, truliling "diploma mill."

4. Mga taga LSGH mismo ay ayaw sa La Salle, lalo na ang mga matatalino. Kaya nga, every year, 75-80% ng mga nasa Honors Class ng LSGH ay pumupunta sa Ateneo. Nandidiri sila sa ka-ebakan ng La Salle. Walang challenge sa DLSU.

5. DLSU Main + CSB + Dasma + Araneta = World Class????
Puhhlleeeeezzzzzzzzzz. Kilabutan kayo!!! Nuff said.
If anything, mukhang factory for the mass-production of cheap diplomas.

6. DLSU entrance exams versus ACET at UPCAT?
Puhhhhleeeeezzzz ulit. Parang pang kinder ang test sa DLSU. Maski matulog kayo at umebaks kayo for more than one hour, pasado pa rin. Bakit kamo???

Kailangan ng DLSU ang mga tuition-paying students. Mahal ang infrastructure.....pati na kuryente, lalo na ang mga aircon na classrooms. At tsaka mahal ang Expedition ng mga Brothers. Kailangan ang datung in ader words.

7. Tingnan na lang ninyo ang basketbol program ng DLSU. Pati na ang mga rejects ng JRU tulad nila Cardona at Mark Benitez ay kayang makapasok at maging Deans' Lister sa DLSU.

8. DLSU ay kasali sa blacklist ng CHED for skewl bukols that offer ebak courses.

May da best ba naman na ganun? Nuff said.

9. DLSU da best skewl?? Kung da best private skul nga ay hindi, kasi Ateneo ang da best. Best skul pa kaya? Lakas ng tama. Nasobrahan yata sa Shabu or Ecstasy.

10. DLSU Level 4?? Who cares? Accreditation body lang yan. PAASCU accredits skewls on an individual basis by comparing da skewl with a set of criteria. Also, subjective ang survey kasi done by individuals based on subjective criteria.

Moreover, schools are not accredited simultaneously NOR compared with one another. In ader words, para sa mga slowwwwww...... accreditation is not the same as ranking!!!!!!

Non sequitur from Level IV to da best.

Di pa rin magets???

Lundag na lang kayo sa Pasig River o from the top floor ng Gokongwei Bldg.

Yung mga Lasalistang nagpupumilit na da best sila, I can't really blame them. After all, almost a century na sila aping-api sa pagka-ebaks given their ebak-ish reputation.

Pabayaan na lang natin sila managinip at mag-ilusyon.

Bright ones, like yours truly, can differentiate truth from lies, fact from fiction.

Basta tandaan.....Once an ebaks, always an ebaks.

Garbage in, garbage out. Bobo in, bobo out.

Beauty fades. Dumb is forever.

DLSU tambakan....... kahapon, ngayon at bukas.

The ebak future begins here in Taffat.

Live ebaks in our minds!

Basta NU Rulezzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Peace and love to all mankind.:D

Chad

Jun 8, 2002, 05:22 AM

Originally posted by Bullyd0g

Live ebaks in our minds.[/b]

You know, I really don't give a d.amn about you or your posts (or your alternick's posts). Freedom of speech and all that crap.

But as much as my faith in the Catholic Church is being eroded by a lot of things, please do NOT replace the name "Jesus" with "ebak" and the word "hearts" with "minds."

There. That's all. Now go back and do your school bashing again. You were cynically amusing before. Now you're beginning to piss me off.

:bop:
:borg:
Chad

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 05:35 AM

I NEED ANSWERS

1. Anong CHED ORDER NO.___ na nagasasabing "duly recognized" ng Commission On Higher Education (CHED )ang dlsu bilang best private university?

2. Saang documents ng PAASCU mababasa na ang dlsu ang best private university?

3. Anu-ano nga ba ang mga programs/course offerings ng dlsu na nasa level 4 na?

4. Ang DIPLOMA PROGRAMS ba ng dlsu ay may level status rin?

more questions next time.

YUN LANG

PEACE.

necr0

Jun 8, 2002, 06:14 AM

Originally posted by criticguy
I NEED ANSWERS

1. Anong CHED ORDER NO.___ na nagasasabing "duly recognized" ng Commission On Higher Education (CHED )ang dlsu bilang best private university?

2. Saang documents ng PAASCU mababasa na ang dlsu ang best private university?

3. Anu-ano nga ba ang mga programs/course offerings ng dlsu na nasa level 4 na?

4. Ang DIPLOMA PROGRAMS ba ng dlsu ay may level status rin?

more questions next time.

YUN LANG

PEACE.

Nobody's replying on your thread right? maybe, Lasallians are not interested in this so-called "best privy univ" ek-ek
why don't you just call those dept. and find out, i don't think anybody would want to waste time doing extensive research on this. or since you're from ADMU (tama ba?), why don't you ask your admin na lang kng may alam sila re: this kse last I heard, nag-apply na din ADMU di ba? I bet they would know

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by necr0

Nobody's replying on your thread right? maybe, Lasallians are not interested in this so-called "best privy univ" ek-ek
why don't you just call those dept. and find out, i don't think anybody would want to waste time doing extensive research on this. or since you're from ADMU (tama ba?), why don't you ask your admin na lang kng may alam sila re: this kse last I heard, nag-apply na din ADMU di ba? I bet they would know

yup, nobody's replying and i'm sure for that.

that question are addresed to all la sallians claiming/affirming that dlsu s d best private univ.

so you mean, nobody can present any basis?

so lahat pala ay speculations and assumption?

as far as i know, only la sallians are saying dlsu s "duly recognized" by ched as best private univ.

well, f they are confident enough, then they had to present any proof/evidences to support their claim.

otherwise, all are speculations/assumptions and personalized (la sallians ) description.

i'll give you an example,

CHED's center of excellence.

i know na meron CHED order na nagaffrim sa center of excellence ng UP, UST, La Salle and Ateneo.

how about best private univ? may ched order ba?

wala d ba?

bakit sinasabi na "duly recognized" ng CHED.

ginagamit nyo ang CHED para mambola?

atleast, maiangat ang reputation ng la salle?

well, walang mali dyan.

kailangan lang, clear evidences/proofs.

since you said nobody will waste their time to research...
in other words, ano ang tawag doon?

if and only if maipakita ninyo sa madla na may basehan kayo sa lahat na sinasabi ninyo, siguro walang magtatanong nyan.

PEACE.

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 06:45 AM

NEED ANSWERS

1. Anong CHED ORDER NO.___ na nagasasabing "duly recognized" ng Commission On Higher Education (CHED )ang dlsu bilang best private university?

2. Saang documents ng PAASCU mababasa na ang dlsu ang best private university?

3. Anu-ano nga ba ang mga programs/course offerings ng dlsu na nasa level 4 na?

4. Ang DIPLOMA PROGRAMS ba ng dlsu ay may level status rin?

more questions next time.

YUN LANG

PEACE.

Hulk

Jun 8, 2002, 06:50 AM

Originally posted by criticguy
I NEED ANSWERS

1. Anong CHED ORDER NO.___ na nagasasabing "duly recognized" ng Commission On Higher Education (CHED )ang dlsu bilang best private university?

2. Saang documents ng PAASCU mababasa na ang dlsu ang best private university?

3. Anu-ano nga ba ang mga programs/course offerings ng dlsu na nasa level 4 na?

4. Ang DIPLOMA PROGRAMS ba ng dlsu ay may level status rin?

more questions next time.

YUN LANG

PEACE.

Dude you've already made your point! You are right, La Sallians were indeed over-zealous in showing their delight in receiving the Level 4 status.

What I don't understand is why you keep asking these questions. Is this for your own personal benefit to better understand PAASCU's accreditation, or do you wish to further gloat that you were right?

:frank:

necr0

Jun 8, 2002, 06:54 AM

ehehehe, gudlak

a123

Jun 8, 2002, 08:49 AM

wala pang lasallian na nagsasabi kung pano nakuha yung level 4 status nila probably because di nga talaga nila alam. pero im sure na meron ding iba na may alam. di nga lang siguro sila pexers. moreover, di naman nila sinasabi sa admin ng dlsu na i-announce na level 4 nga sila. so, why bash them for this?! my point is, kung gusto nyong malaman, itanong nyo sa paascu dahil sila ang nagdecide na bigyan and dlsu ng level 4 status.

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by Hulk

Dude you've already made your point! You are right, La Sallians were indeed over-zealous in showing their delight in receiving the Level 4 status.

What I don't understand is why you keep asking these questions. Is this for your own personal benefit to better understand PAASCU's accreditation, or do you wish to further gloat that you were right?

:frank:
IT WAS MY OBSERVATIONS AND PERSONAL QUESTIONS

for everybody's benefit.

just be fair.

PEACE

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 08:56 AM

Originally posted by a123
wala pang lasallian na nagsasabi kung pano nakuha yung level 4 status nila probably because di nga talaga nila alam. pero im sure na meron ding iba na may alam. di nga lang siguro sila pexers. moreover, di naman nila sinasabi sa admin ng dlsu na i-announce na level 4 nga sila. so, why bash them for this?! my point is, kung gusto nyong malaman, itanong nyo sa paascu dahil sila ang nagdecide na bigyan and dlsu ng level 4 status.

walang mali sa level 4 ng DLSU.

i don't know if they are insecure with their reputation.

why is it they need to sensationalized the level 4?

level 4 means best?

i think walang mali, only they should present enough basis.

and i hope it's not a personal views.

kung personal views lang ang hanap, daming pwede ilathala.

PEACE

vinta18

Jun 8, 2002, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by criticguy

walang mali sa level 4 ng DLSU.

i don't know if they are insecure with their reputation.

why is it they need to sensationalized the level 4?

level 4 means best?

i think walang mali, only they should present enough basis.

and i hope it's not a personal views.

kung personal views lang ang hanap, daming pwede ilathala.

PEACE

1. A lot of Lasallians DO NOT appreciate the "sensationalization" of the Level 4 status. You're right, nagmumukhang insecure.

2. Check your subject-verb agreement.

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by vinta18

1. A lot of Lasallians DO NOT appreciate the "sensationalization" of the Level 4 status. You're right, nagmumukhang insecure.

2. Check your subject-verb agreement.

no time to edit.

i need direct answers

anyway, tnx na rin!

yun lang!

PEACE

Jun 8, 2002, 10:33 AM

I think Bulldogs_fan should be banned from PEx.

His comments are unfounded and confrontational. This person is not contributing to the discussion.

What are the moderators doing?

Anyway....

I don't think La Salle is sensationalizing the situation.

Its something to be proud of, and it is something we should know about.

It is a fact that everyone (including Upeans, Ateneans.etc) should know that La Salle has a level 4 status in PAASCU.

Its much higher than the ranking of OTHER schools.

The conclusions other people draw from this fact is totally up to them.

La Salle has suffered much from unfounded and baseless talk/ rumors.

If it takes a little lasallite spunk and "yabang" to get other people to notice that La Salle is indeed a better institution (ika nga, the grass IS greener on the other side), bakit hindi?

If other people are uncomfortable with La Salle showing its superiority, wala tayo magagawa.

Sabi nga ni Mohammad Ali (aka Caysius Clay)

"Its not bragging if you can do it." (or "hindi ito pagmamayabang kung kaya mo naman"..... something to that affect).

If you've got it, flaunt it.

i.e. totoo namand level 4 eh so hindi mo masasabi na puro hangin lang ang press release ng La Salle.

:D

animo.

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by PS
I think Bulldogs_fan should be banned from PEx.

His comments are unfounded and confrontational. This person is not contributing to the discussion.

What are the moderators doing?

kawawa naman si bulldog, give him a chance!

anyway, thanks...

nice comment, still very irrelevant!

I NEED ANSWERS, not comment about PEXers.

PEACE

:p

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 10:40 AM

Jun 8, 2002, 10:45 AM

alam mo, criticguy, ang mga tanong na ito ay dapat itanong sa mga taga-PAASCU at CHED.

Wala naman kaming mga dokumento na makakapagsagot sa mga katanungan mo.

Sana mag-research ka para malaman namin.....:D

Actually, binabasa ko yung mga past posts at karamihan tinatanong kung paano nangyari yun (La Salle's level 4 status).

I think ang isyung ito ay naipaliwanag na sa article ni Elfren... something sa BusinessWeek eh.

Sana basahin na lang ang artikulo at hanapin na lang ang objective info sa mga subjective na impormasyon.

I think, na-explain naman doon bakit La Salle ang naging kauna-unahang Philippine university na may level 4 status sa PAASCU.

peace.

animo.

Chad

Jun 8, 2002, 10:50 AM

criticguy,

I doubt you will find answers to your questions in this forum that are unbiased and grounded on statistical facts. It's a public forum where everyone is free to post their opinion. If you'll look at the thread, roughly 80% of the posts are opinions.

If you're really determined to find the CORRECT answers to your questions, why don't you direct your queries to:

1) De La Salle University. I'm sure that the Office of the Vice-President for Academics, the Marketing Communications Office, or even the Student Council can give you a more concise answer.

2) PAASCU itself. As you said, there's a website. Why don't you email your questions to them? Since they're the one who granted the Level IV status, then they're in the best position to give you the answers you want.

3) CHED. Again, they can give you the results of any studies they have conducted.

You cannot expect PExers to give you the kind of answers you want if your question itself is biased. Nor can you expect PExers to give you the facts that you want since 1) their source is the same as yours, i.e. the news artcile, and 2) this forum (The Academe) is choke full of people who just post to bring down any school or to glorify their own.

I admire your tenacity in asking, but I think that you've received more than enough answers in your own thread that gives you an indication that it is futile to continue asking here. Go to the next level and go straight to the source.

If, that is, you're really interested in seeking the truth. Now only you can answer that.

:bop:
:borg:
Chad

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by PS
alam mo, criticguy, ang mga tanong na ito ay dapat itanong sa mga taga-PAASCU at CHED.

Wala naman kaming mga dokumento na makakapagsagot sa mga katanungan mo.

Sana mag-research ka para malaman namin.....:D

peace.

animo.

natatawa talaga ako sa inyo.

alam nyo kung bakit?

hindi nyo masagot ang mga tanong ko.

simple lang yan mga pare!

nagtataka lang kasi ako, bakit paulit-ulit ninyo sinasabi na the best private university ang DLSU-Manila, the best university raw sa businessworld.

ano nga yung proof?

masama ba itanong?

kapag hindi masagot ang mga tanong ko, ibig sabihin nyan, lahat ay PERSONALIZED DESCRIPTION/ASSUMPTIONS/SPECULATIONS.

mga la sallians lang ang nagsasabi nyan.

sasabihin nyo pa na "duly recogized" ng CHED, PAASCU?
tama ba yan?

very unfair f walang proof/evidences.

tingnan mo ang CHED's center of excellence, may umangal ba?

wala! dahil yun ang totoo at 100% sure na may CHED order nga na nagsasabi na Center of excellence ang UP, UST, La Salle, Ateneo(with specified course yan)

how about best private university?

ok lang kayo?anong CHED order?

tapos, ang PAASCU ginagamit nyo rin!
LEVEL 4 s level 4 d b? with specified programs yan according sa PAASCU's standard.

wala ngang masama f may proof lang kayo.

AM I RIGHT? OR AM I WRONG?

PEACE

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 11:06 AM

criticguy

Jun 8, 2002, 11:15 AM

Originally posted by Chad
criticguy,

I doubt you will find answers to your questions in this forum that are unbiased and grounded on statistical facts. It's a public forum where everyone is free to post their opinion. If you'll look at the thread, roughly 80% of the posts are opinions.

If you're really determined to find the CORRECT answers to your questions, why don't you direct your queries to:

1) De La Salle University. I'm sure that the Office of the Vice-President for Academics, the Marketing Communications Office, or even the Student Council can give you a more concise answer.

2) PAASCU itself. As you said, there's a website. Why don't you email your questions to them? Since they're the one who granted the Level IV status, then they're in the best position to give you the answers you want.

3) CHED. Again, they can give you the results of any studies they have conducted.

You cannot expect PExers to give you the kind of answers you want if your question itself is biased. Nor can you expect PExers to give you the facts that you want since 1) their source is the same as yours, i.e. the news artcile, and 2) this forum (The Academe) is choke full of people who just post to bring down any school or to glorify their own.

I admire your tenacity in asking, but I think that you've received more than enough answers in your own thread that gives you an indication that it is futile to continue asking here. Go to the next level and go straight to the source.

If, that is, you're really interested in seeking the truth. Now only you can answer that.

:bop:
:borg:
Chad

excellent comment and suggestion.....

yun lang ang gusto ko.

opinion lang nga(about 80%? r u sure)

sana matahimik na ang mga la sallian hanggang walang proof/solid facts/clear evidences sa mga sinsabi nila.

anyway, CONGRATS pa rin sa level 4 nyo!

ANIMO LA SALLE.

thanks!

and as always,

PEACE

note: gusto kolang talaga maging fair sa paniniwala ko.

STOP BASHING!

Jun 8, 2002, 02:14 PM

Hwag ka naman sana magalit. :D

I think the answer is staring at you but you refuse to look.

Yung mga tanong mo masasagot yan by simple research eh.

I don't think its our responsibility to spoon feed you the information you require.

The facts state that La Salle has indeed achieved level 4 status under PAASCU.

That means programs offered by the university are top notch.

Now if you want to delve deeper, please do so. The answers are there but it will require some research from you.

Hindi ko alam kung ano ang gusto mo malaman eh.

I think what the people from the university are doing is just stating a fact. Hindi na nila problema kung ano ang reaction mo (disbelief? jubilation? )

Good Luck!

a123

Jun 9, 2002, 05:50 AM

criticguy

Jun 9, 2002, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by PS
Hwag ka naman sana magalit. :D

I think the answer is staring at you but you refuse to look.

kailan man hindi ako nagagalit, palagi nga ako natatawa sa inyo.

alam nyo hindi ko masasagot ang tanong ko kasi hindi ko alam.

i'm sure walang sagot sa tanong ko. i hope so!

Originally posted by PS
Yung mga tanong mo masasagot yan by simple research eh.

I don't think its our responsibility to spoon feed you the information you require.

kahit anong research na gagawin niyo walang sagot sa question #s 1 and 2. you know why?

para sa #2.
hindi pwedeng magsasabi ang PAASCU na ang isang institution ay "best private university/college/school" sa dahilan na hindi lahat ng private institution ay members ng PAASCU.
sa tertiary level as of june 2000, 78 lang ang members ng PAASCU.
para malamn nyo around 1200 private institution (colleges/universities lang yan).

and i think UA&P, UST and AIM are not members.

in fact many still believe na UA&P, UST and AIM ay mas magaling sa la salle.

another thing,
magagalit rin ang ibang acrediting agency katulad ng PACUCOA na nag-acredit rin ng private institution.

para sa #1.
walang sagot yan.
you know why?
kailan man hindi nagbigay ang Commission On Higher Education ng isang CHED order.

MALIWANAG.

sa question #3 and #4, i'm sure masagot nyo yan!
mahirap ba?
basta, sigurado rin ako na hindi entire university(DLSU) ay nasa level 4 kapag babasehan ang PAASCU's standard.
if entire man, siguro nabago ang standard nila(ang bilis if ganu, di man lang sinabi sa akin,
:D

Originally posted by PS
The facts state that La Salle has indeed achieved level 4 status under PAASCU.

That means programs offered by the university are top notch.

I think what the people from the university are doing is just stating a fact. Hindi na nila problema kung ano ang reaction mo (disbelief? jubilation? )

Good Luck!

that's it!

la salle is lucky enough.

it means na nakapasa kayo sa standard ng PAASCU.
sa mga requirements na hinihingi nila.yun lang!

parang ganito yan:(applying for a job)
la salle ang unang na interview, pumasa na!
ateneo ang pangalawa, wala pang results.

ano kaya ang rating?

syempre iba kasi magkaiba ang course offerings ng la salle at ateneo.

saan ba ang the best na tinutukoy nyo?

WALA NO.

reaction ko? happy ako for la salle's achievements. yun lang!

and congrats pa rin.

PEACE

Bullydogs

Jun 9, 2002, 11:31 PM

Obyus ba na ginagamit lang ng mga Lasalista ang PAASCU sa panlilinlang ng mga kapwa bobiskis. It's nothing but another cheap propaganda tulad ng mga lumalabas sa Marketing & Communications Office ng DLSU.

Bottom line, Level IV is not equal to being da best.

Non sequitur. Leap of faith. Logical disconnect.

PAASCU is an accrediting organization. It accredits; it does not rank schools.

May da best skul ba naman na tambakan ng mga bobo at slowwww?

May da best skul ba naman na pinandidirian ng mga honor students ng kanilang high school (LSGH) mismo?

May da best skul ba naman na nasasali sa blacklist ng CHED for offering substandard courses?

May da best skul ba naman na napakadaling pasukan? Kahit sinu-sino na lang pati na ang pinaka-bobiski sa high skul ay admitted kaagad. No sweat.

DLSU Main + CSB + Dasma + Araneta U = Da Best???
Mwahahahahahaha :lol: Only kung nagpapatawa kayo. Obyus na pinagsama-sama na third rate skuls. Baka da best sa ka-ebakan, pwede pa.

Entrance test ng DLSU..... napakahirap ba tulad ng mga test sa Harvard, Stanford, Ateneo, o UP?

I don't think so. Nakakainsulto nga ang test sa DLSU eh. Parang test sa Montessori nursery school. Para ngang pang retarded pa yata. No wonder kung sinu-sino lang ang nakakapasok sa DLSU. Want proof? Si poohkielaki...basahin ang argument niya. Halatang kulang sa logic at mahina sa analysis.

What about da Business World article?

Walang credibility. Nothing but a propaganda and a personal opinion of a fanatical Lasallian. Pay attention to first person references sa article tulad ng usage ng mga terms like "I", "We", and "Us."

Hindi siya naiiba sa mga article tulad ng "The Best Mader in Da World," "The Best Sex in my Life", "The Best Wife in the World," "The Greatest Story Ever Told," "The Best Fafa Federation," "The Best Cook"......ek ek ek... In ader words, personal opinion lang at subjective.

Isa pang dahilan kung bakit walang credibility... Obyus nga na hindi da best private skul sa Pinas eh kasi Ateneo ang da best. Da best skul pa kaya?? Kapal naman!

Why DLSU will always be one of the ebakest skewl bukols in the land????

Read the above comments for the nth time.

Why Level IV is not tantamount to being the best?

Read the above again. In addition, read criticguy's comments.

Mahirap maintindihan for the bobos, which is karamihan ng mg taga DLSU. Kasali na si poohkielakie, sprakatumski, greener_manure atb. :silly::elf:

Yung mga bright and honest Lasallians, alam nila at naiintindihan nila na walang koneksyon ang Level IV sa pagiging da best.

Nuff said.

No matter what, tambakan pa rin ang DLSU .. past, present and forever.

Hype as much as you want. Kayo-kayo lang ang nagBOBOlahan.

I can't really blame you. It's beyond your ability to comprehend.
At alam ko na atat na atat na kayo maka-angat sa almost-a-century old na reputasyon niyo na Smokey Mountain University o Tambakan de Malate.

Full of ebaks in our minds!!

Mwehehehehhehehehe :lol:

Nobody Envies Ebak DLSU.

NU Rulezzzzzzzzzzz pa rin!!!!

dekster

Jun 10, 2002, 06:09 AM

answer this for me guys... and please be sensible about it...

if PAASCU's (level IV) accreditations are voluntary, why haven't ADMU, UP, UST et al. applied for it yet? In ADMU's case, why do they have to wait till 2003?

As far as I can remember, the mentioned schools have always been making a big deal about PAASCU.

Slick!

Jun 10, 2002, 06:37 AM

criticguy,

hindi ko pa alam yang mga sinasabi mo pero ill try to get some answers jan. galing.

bullydog atbp,

ganyan ba itinuturo sa inyo sa ateneo? to blabber nonsense? grabe buti na lang hindi ako pumasok jan. look, no one here is saying na la salle is the best university, and if ever someone says that, i agree that it is wrong! yung accreditation nauna lang kami, nothing more. tsaka its useless to compare both schools, hindi matatapos yan. kung gusto nyo TALAGA mapatunayan kung *** school nyo ang best, try to enroll sa la salle tapos compare your grades sa ate at lasal. kung sa ate puro bagsak ka tapos pagdating sa lasal deans list ka, then thats the time that you could really say na tapunan ng boblax ang lasal... masyado kang mayabang... try to be calm.

btw, ito itinuturo sa amin sa lasal, not to fight fire with fire... godbless!

Slick!

Jun 10, 2002, 06:40 AM

taga la salle pala ako, tapos lasallian ako. :D

criticguy

Jun 10, 2002, 06:48 AM

Originally posted by dekster
answer this for me guys... and please be sensible about it...

if PAASCU's (level IV) accreditations are voluntary, why haven't ADMU, UP, UST et al. applied for it yet? In ADMU's case, why do they have to wait till 2003?

As far as I can remember, the mentioned schools have always been making a big deal about PAASCU.

you're totally wrong pare

1st.ADMU and DLSU lang member ng PAASCU

2nd. UST belong sa PACU

3rd. UP is a state univ

4rth. PAASCU and PACU accredits private institution

5th. UP belong sa association ng SUCs

6th.about PAASCU, hindi pwedend sabay-sabay ang dalawang institution magpaacredit kahit alam na qualified ang isang institution. SOP, naischedule yan: in this case nauna ang la salle, followed by ateneo.
after that DLSU-D, ateneo de davao, USLS rin ay naschedule na rin for level 4 status(some programs lang)

PEACE

dekster

Jun 10, 2002, 07:04 AM

6th.about PAASCU, hindi pwedend sabay-sabay ang dalawang institution magpaacredit kahit alam na qualified ang isang institution. SOP, naischedule yan: in this case nauna ang la salle, followed by ateneo.

sayang kala ko nabutasan na! heheh... oh well... till more information comes along nalang! :)

peace din sayo dude!

cebulad

Jun 11, 2002, 03:50 AM

Originally posted by criticguy

you're totally wrong pare

1st.ADMU and DLSU lang member ng PAASCU

2nd. UST belong sa PACU

3rd. UP is a state univ

4rth. PAASCU and PACU accredits private institution

5th. UP belong sa association ng SUCs

6th.about PAASCU, hindi pwedend sabay-sabay ang dalawang institution magpaacredit kahit alam na qualified ang isang institution. SOP, naischedule yan: in this case nauna ang la salle, followed by ateneo.
after that DLSU-D, ateneo de davao, USLS rin ay naschedule na rin for level 4 status(some programs lang)

PEACE

ano yung PACU? SUCs?

i thought member ang UST sa PAASCU d b?

burn_the_ice

Jun 11, 2002, 05:20 PM

pano ba yan criticguy? wanna check this site?

http://db.education-world.com/perl/browse?cat_id=11732&url_start=1&cat_start=1

e di ba sa iisang website lang nanggaling yan at yung pinagmamalaki mong best university sa phils. ang AdMU?

criticguy

Jun 12, 2002, 05:28 AM

Originally posted by burn_the_ice
pano ba yan criticguy? wanna check this site?

http://db.education-world.com/perl/browse?cat_id=11732&url_start=1&cat_start=1

e di ba sa iisang website lang nanggaling yan at yung pinagmamalaki mong best university sa phils. ang AdMU?

don't worry, i'll make a story just for you.

PEACE

RECORDER

Jun 12, 2002, 05:35 AM

Congrats to La Salle

criticguy

Jun 12, 2002, 05:36 AM

let's have a story.

May 29, 2002
1:00pm

i'm surfing on the net...
the search engine that i USED was google.com

under the search option, nilagay ko ang "ATENEO DE MANILA UNIVERSITY"

syempre, google so daming ibibgay na site.

at isa na dyan ang education-world site.

natawa ako pare.

ito kasi ang nakita ko

Ateneo de Manila University Manila Philippines. This school is the best private university in the Philippines.

ofcourse to be fair...
nilagay ko rin ang "De La Salle University" sa search option ng education-world site

ito ang nakita ko

De La Salle University (Philippines)
http://ccslinux.dlsu.edu.ph/

i know from the very start pa lang, marami ang aangal esp. la sallians.

u know why? just take a look at the site, may add a site options.

so, in short, i'm aware of the changes, comments, reactions.

everyday ko na rin tinitngnan ang education-world site.

alam mo kung bakit?

hinamon ko kasi si "Sprakatumski"

well, ok nga observation nya.

for sure, hindi ako ang naglagay ng personalized description sa ateneo. nakita ko lang yan. at never ko sinabi yun ang tama at yun ang paniwalaan. basta, nakita ko lang.

June 1, 2002
9 o clock naclosed ko ang education-world site.

June 2, 2002
11:15 am

wow, nakita ko agad sa kay ("poohkielakie")
sa thread "Press Release: DLSU Phil. best university" just refer na lang

"
http://db.education-world.com/perl/browse?cat_id=11732"

"De La Salle University - Manila This academic institution is the best private University in the Philippines. The school is duly recognized by the Philippines' CHED, PAASCU, and FAAD."

ofcourse binuksan ko agad ang site... nandoon nga!

expectedly.

add a site...d b?

i doubt if poohkielakie and Sprakatumski ay isang tao lang.
I hope not.

nakakatuwa! bakit? April 29, 2002 lang naglabas ang PAASCU's about level 4 status ng dlsu.

wow, kung totoo man yang description sa education-world, ang galing pala ng site na yan d b? just in one month? updated agad.

halatang-halata na isang la sallian ang naglagay(i hope i'm wrong)

u know why?

nilagay kasi ang "duly recognized" daw ng PAASCU, CHED, at FAAP ang DLSU.

really?

anong CHED order?

saang document?

i hope lang na mali ako.

THE END.

peace

:D

criticguy

Jun 12, 2002, 06:10 AM

Originally posted by cebulad

ano yung PACU? SUCs?

i thought member ang UST sa PAASCU d b?

kawawa ka naman d mo yan alam?

PACU stands for Philippine Association of Colleges and Universities.

SUCs?

state universities and colleges or some called it SCU, state colleges and universities.

to make things clearer.

referring to ADMU, DLSU, UST and UP.....

ADMU and DLSU are members of PAASCU.

UST is member of PACU, along with UA&P, Adamson, San Beda, NU, FEU etc....

UP as a state university belong to the association of state colleges and universities( sorry, i forgot the name)

PAASCU and PACU accredits private institutions.

most members of PAASCU are catholic schools.

while PACU, mostly are non-sectarian schools.

Both PAASCU and PACU are members of FAAP.

FAAP stands for Federation of Accrediting Agency of the Philippines.

PAASCU, PACU, FAAP and others are duly recognized by CHED.

CHED stands for Commission On Higher Education.

CHED is a government agency.

sana cebulad maliwanag na yan ha!

PEACE

Jun 12, 2002, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by criticguy

kailan man hindi ako nagagalit, palagi nga ako natatawa sa inyo.

alam nyo hindi ko masasagot ang tanong ko kasi hindi ko alam.

i'm sure walang sagot sa tanong ko. i hope so!

kahit anong research na gagawin niyo walang sagot sa question #s 1 and 2. you know why?

para sa #2.
hindi pwedeng magsasabi ang PAASCU na ang isang institution ay "best private university/college/school" sa dahilan na hindi lahat ng private institution ay members ng PAASCU.
sa tertiary level as of june 2000, 78 lang ang members ng PAASCU.
para malamn nyo around 1200 private institution (colleges/universities lang yan).

and i think UA&P, UST and AIM are not members.

in fact many still believe na UA&P, UST and AIM ay mas magaling sa la salle.

another thing,
magagalit rin ang ibang acrediting agency katulad ng PACUCOA na nag-acredit rin ng private institution.

para sa #1.
walang sagot yan.
you know why?
kailan man hindi nagbigay ang Commission On Higher Education ng isang CHED order.

MALIWANAG.

sa question #3 and #4, i'm sure masagot nyo yan!
mahirap ba?
basta, sigurado rin ako na hindi entire university(DLSU) ay nasa level 4 kapag babasehan ang PAASCU's standard.
if entire man, siguro nabago ang standard nila(ang bilis if ganu, di man lang sinabi sa akin,
:D

that's it!

la salle is lucky enough.

it means na nakapasa kayo sa standard ng PAASCU.
sa mga requirements na hinihingi nila.yun lang!

parang ganito yan:(applying for a job)
la salle ang unang na interview, pumasa na!
ateneo ang pangalawa, wala pang results.

ano kaya ang rating?

syempre iba kasi magkaiba ang course offerings ng la salle at ateneo.

saan ba ang the best na tinutukoy nyo?

WALA NO.

reaction ko? happy ako for la salle's achievements. yun lang!

and congrats pa rin.

PEACE

Hey, if that is how you feel, then ganun talaga eh.

"A person convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still."

Sabi ko naman sa mga post ko hindi na responsabilidad ng La Salle kung maniniwala ka sa press release o hindi eh.

Kakatawa ka nga eh, napaka-definitive/ sure-footed mo sa iyong litanya....tapos bigla kang may hirit na "i'm sure walang sagot sa tanong ko. i hope so." :D HAHAHAHAHA!

there goes your absolutely correct/ flawless argument. ;)

Another thing, hindi naman namin problema na i-research pa ang mga tanong mo. Hindi namin ito responsiblity eh.

Ang buchi mo ang pumuputok sa press release ng La Salle eh, hindi naman sa amin. : )

Sinasabi mo, sigurado ka na ang mga tanong mo ay hindi masasagot. WELL THEN, I TURN THE TABLES ON YOU. PROVE IT. :D

DO THE RESEARCH, QUOTE SOME PERSON, QUOTE SOME LINE FROM A DOCUMENT, BUT PLEASE DO THE RESEARCH IF YOU REALLY ARE SO OBSESSED WITH THIS ISSUE. :rolleyes:

This argument is getting to be tiring.

Press Release means something. Look it up. Baka maintindihan mo na kung bakit pro-la salle yung article eh. (hence, the reason its called a press release).

This matter is trivial, and the issue simple.

The Press Release gives a good view of DLSU. Its backed by fact. Officials from CHED or PAASCU aren't howling in protest.

Again, its a press release. Sometimes people should know the context from which a particle article is written for.

If other people simply refuse to believe it, that's their problem.

criticguy, this is your problem. :cool:

Sprakatumski

Jun 12, 2002, 12:01 PM

I'll try to express my views and explanations as honestly and as objectively as possible.

First of all, I'd like to dwell on my honest perception of criticguy. Compared to his fellow Atenean bullydogs, I must say that criticguy is way better. This guy started as an objective person, stating things without necessarily using words or ideas that seem to ridicule other people. He is actually one, if not the only Atenean, who had given and stated worthwhile views and concerns. I appreciate his initiative and dedication to clarify some things that may be confusing or baffling him. But from the way I see it, he does not fully live up to his name of being a Critic Guy. I've known and observed real critic people and i've seen how they rightfully behave and criticize. In contrast to criticguy, real critics know how to collect the necessary facts and at the same time can interpret and critically analyze such facts. These people can make logical interconnections between ideas and views. These people try to read not just what is given. They make the move to read 'between' or even 'beyond' the lines. Having seen majority if not all of criticguy's posts, what i've seen so far are just a heavy bombardment of questions, querries and inquiries that seem to satisfy his weakness of explaining his thoughts and views clearly. To question or to ask for clarifications is not that bad. But if it is done in succession and in amounts that seem to spam things rather than clarify things, the whole thing just becomes an eyesore. One pexer even said that criticguy's posts seem to be detracting the truth. Actually, this becomes just an impression because of criticguy's incapability of expressing and interconnecting all of his questions and concerns. Or maybe, some would say that his battery of questions is just a diversion to the real message and meaning of the thread.

Eventhough it's not us Lasallians who should really be answering his confusion and bafflement brought about by his inablity to succesfully analyze & interpret things, I'm willing to extend intellectual aid & guidance to enlighten his bewildered and befuddled mind. The following answers and explanations will be very much founded on quoted sources and some very objective & logical views. Some of the following answers were even mentioned before already; but I'm not sure if they were advertently skipped or deliberately disregarded.

Originally posted by criticguy
we need confirmation/proof/clear evidences from PAASCU, CHED, FAAP, PRC, MALACAÑANG.......... hehehe...

claiming/affirming that

"DLSU is the best private university"
I can say that you are too shallow and desperate in formulating this question. You even add the expression "hehehe..." to at least cover up the desperation and foolishness of asking such a superficial & dilettante question.

Don't try to confine us in proving that De La Salle is the best primarily and solely based on your given premise. The Business World article mentioned many aspects of La Salle that continually reaffirm it as the Best Private University in the Philippines. And besides the Business World article affirming that DLSU is the best, there are still many more institutional bodies that submit to the fact that De La Salle is the best private university indeed...

> DLSU is ASIAWEEK's current Best Private University in the Philippines.

> DLSU is included in the ASIAWEEK's Best MBA Schools.

admu was not even confident or competent enough to submit themselves for Asiatic evaluation and assessment. This fact only shows further the weakness & inferiority of admu. Their alibi of saying that the Survey was flawed etc. etc. is another resemblance of sour graping & insecurity.

> http://db.education-world.com/perl/browse?cat_id=11732

"De La Salle University - Manila This academic institution is the best private University in the Philippines. The school is duly recognized by the Philippines' CHED, PAASCU, and FAAD."

This site is another basis that De La Salle is really the best private university. The Education World site is a little bit strict in adding descriptions such as this. They do proper screening & research plus backgroud checks before finally approving and including such a site. Comparing the description of this one with that of ateneo, this one obviously outweighs the other.

> http://search.asiaco.com/Philippine...d_Universities/

De La Salle University - Manila. The best private university in Philippines.

This description is another affirmation that De La Salle is the Best Private University.

> Even in the past, DLSU was already rated as the NO. 1 or Best Private School in the Philippines

The 1920s saw the De La Salle's transfer location to wooded Taft Avenue. During this time, many heads of state would visit it, not the least of which were then-Governor-General Leonard Wood and Senate President Manuel Luis Quezon. In 1924, Dr. Paul Monroe and a commission of American educators would name La Salle as the number one school in the Philippine Islands after an eight-month cross-country inspection.
("Glimpses from our Past", DLSU-Manila website)

> DLSU is the current HIGHEST/TOP PRIVATE ACADEMIC INSTITUTION IN THE COUNTRY by virtue of the PAASCU, FAAD, CHED, and the LAW.

CHED Order No. 31 s. 1995

Level IV: Re-accredited Status - "Institutions/programs which have distinguished themselves in a broad area of academic discipline and enjoy prestige and authority comparable to that of international universities."

(Others are very far away from achieving this prestigious distinction. The closest school admu is hoping Level 4 accreditation in 2004. And as they've said, the schedule is even tentative.)

Only the dumb and delirious people would not know the implication of being the Highest and Top academic institution on the land. This is to a great extent and almost synonymous & equivalent to being the Best Private Academic Institution on the land. Combining this fact with the other mentioned support evidences will further solidify and affirm that De La Salle is indeed the Best.

> DLSU is CHED's ZONAL RESEARCH CENTER (ZRC) in NCR. As a ZRC, De La Salle is spearheading 134 colleges & universities (including ateneo) in the development of Tertiary Education in the country.

Extracted from "DLSU-Achievers, Inc.":

TEACHERS OF ATENEO LEARN FROM DLSU

Fr. William Kreutz, ATENEO de Zamboanga President, requested DLSU-M to help develop their faculty in the Doctoral Level. To achive university status, ADZ is currently working on a requirement by CHED to have more Doctorate Degree holders in its faculty.

With the assistance of DLSU-Manila's College of Education (CED), the ADZ faculty are now able to attend classes for PhD programs in Science Education and Applied Linguistics.

DLSU-CED even extended its' hand to help Ateneo get scholarships from the Fund Assistance to Private Education (FAPE) to finance all the students included in the program.

Clearly from this instance or example, we can see how an inferior institution requests or asks help from the Best and Higly reliable Academic Institution. If indeed ateneans are the best, why were they asking academic help from De La Salle... Moreover, why not seek help from their purported best...admu...

> The own words of DLSU System President BRO. ROLANDO R. DIZON, FSC (La Salle GS & HS Valedictorian, DLSU M.A. in Educational Management, UNIVERSITY OF AMERICA AB Mathematics Graduate, STANFORD International Development Education Doctorate Degree, TOYM [Ten Outstanding Young Men] Awardee in the field of Education, Jesuit OZANAM Awardee, and recipient of the Marie Eugenie Centenary Award) :

Excerpt from the President's Address for SY 2002-2003:

We had a good year last year, and I wish to thank and congratulate you, our faculty, our precious jewels, for making it a good year! We had a long string of academic achievements, but I think the most meaningful was the attainment of PAASCU Level 4 Accreditation! Congratulations! We have further proof, objective proof, that DLSU is the BEST SCHOOL – not just on the basketball court!
(http://system.dlsu.edu.ph/messages/...ty_address.html)

A man of honor and nobility would not lie if it was the real truth and tautology. Bro. Rolly Dizon was even acclaimed by the Ateneo institution for his character and very worthy & objective views. He even became a Jesuit OZANAM Awardee prooving further that ateneans give high regard to what this person says and does. And i'm sure that Bro. Rolly is aware of the criminal case of libel. He wouldn't announce and say such a comment or commendation if it wasn't really true. The credentials as well as the performance of this man really proves his credibility as well as his integrity.

> And many more proof that De La Salle is indeed the Best.

But if you still want a word coming from Malacanang that De La Salle is the best. Try reading again the Businees World article by Elfren Cruz. Mr. Elfren Cruz, just for everybody's information, is a former PMS or Presidential Management Staff of Malacanang directly under Corazon "Cory" Aquino. In fact, up to now, he is still being consulted by Top officials in government and in Malacanang because of his intelligence, reliability, as well as his credibility in terms of his views and publications. The message did not come directly from Malacanang but at least Mr. Cruz still has an affiliation with Malacanang. This is the closest answer that I can possibly give because the idea of Malacanang proclaiming a school as the best is really absurd and ridiculous. We should also remember the duty of the State or Malacanang to maintain impartiality and nonpartisanship in the nation's affairs.

comment.... PAASCU s an accrediting institution, ryt? and i don't think survey or ranking of schools/colleges/universities included....
This question of yours was almost perfectly answered before by ATOMIC_BOMB. I'm not sure if you just ignored his post or you just declined to accept his clear answer that already addresses your concern.

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From ATOMIC_BOMB:

PAASCU is just a certified DECS agency that does the accreditation of Universities in terms of quality and performance in Education. It assesses or evaluates a university based on general international standards or total patterns.

The question is: Who really ranks Philippine Universities?

("Rank", w/c means 1) noun. a relative 'position' or 'status' in society 2) verb. To give a particular order or position to; classify. SOURCE: "The American Heritage Dictionary")

The answer is nonetheless but DECS or the Department of Education, Culture and Sports.

From the PAASCU Website:

HOW ARE EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS CLASSIFIED (ranked) BY DECS?

CHED Order No. 31 s. 1995 (Policies on Voluntary Accreditation in Aid of Quality and Excellence in Higher Education)

Level I: Applicant Status - "Institutions/programs which have undergone a preliminary survey and are capable of attaining accredited status within one or two years."

Level II: Accredited Status - "Institutions/programs which have undergone a formal accreditation and have been granted initial accreditation set by FAAP for this level."

Level III: Re-accredited Status - "Institutions/programs which have been accredited and which have met the additional criteria set by FAAP for this level."

Level IV: Re-accredited Status - "Institutions/programs which have distinguished themselves in a broad area of academic discipline and enjoy prestige and authority comparable to that of international universities."
IT IS VERY CLEAR BY VIRTUE OF THIS LAW THAT DLSU IS THE HIGHEST / TOP / NO. 1 RANKED UNIVERSITY IN THE PHILIPPINES.

Napansin ko lang kasi na puro "DISPLACMENT OF FACTS" na lang ang pinaggagagawa ng mga atenista. You are all norrowing your minds and concentrating on PAASCU. But in reality and in the end, IT IS NOT THE PAASCU WHO RANKS / CLASSIFIES ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS BUT THE DECS' CHED. KUHA! GETS!

As long as i'm around, you cannot be successful in deceiving people. Pwede kayong mang-asar or mang-g@go pero hanggang dyan na lang kayo. Whatever you do, We are already the current Highest Private Academic Institution in the country by virtue of CHED and the LAW.
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in short, not ol private high schools/colleges/universities are members of PAASCU, ryt?

It does not matter if not all schools are members of the PAASCU because there are other Accrediting Agencies who comprise the 'umbrella organization' known as the FAAP or the Federation of Accrediting Agencies of the Philippines. Again, don't try to confine yourselves by concentrating on PAASCU as the main accrediting agency. Whether you got your accreditation from PAASCU, PACU-COA, or even ACSC-AA, it will still be recognized and certified by DECS & CHED because these three belong to FAAP w/c 'has been designated by the DECS as the country's official certifying agency for accreditation'.

ACCREDITATION

Accreditation is a program of assistance which seeks to upgrade the quality of private education in all levels through a system of peer review based on standards of quality for faculty, instruction, management and facilities. This function is being performed by three accrediting agencies namely: the Philippine Accrediting Agency for Schools, Colleges and Universities (PAASCU), the Philippine Association of Colleges and Universities Commission on Accreditation (PACU-COA) and the Association of Christian Schools and Colleges Accrediting Association (ACSC-AA).

FAPE was responsible for bringing together the various accrediting groups into an umbrella organization known as the Federation of Accrediting Agencies of the Philippines (FAAP). FAAP has been designated by the DECS as the country's official certifying agency for accreditation. To date, it has been responsible for the accreditation of over 255 schools and 231 collegiate programs.

FAPE has assisted the secretariat operations of FAAP and the three accrediting agencies under it. FAPE has also given grants to FAAP which have been used primarily for the development of accrediting standards and instruments for pre-elementary, elementary and high school; for at least 18 collegiate programs including engineering, teacher education, liberal arts, commerce, agriculture, law, nursing, hotel management, maritime education, medical technology and dentistry; and for graduate education.

These grants have been used to train accreditors and to help schools meet the faculty, laboratory and library requirements for accreditation.

FAPE also provided DECS with technical assistance in the formulation of the policy extending a system of financial support and progressive deregulation to private colleges and universities as an incentive for the attainment of an accredited status.

( SOURCE: http://www.fapenet.org/old/fape/fapeproj.htm )

comment..... it's very unfair to say dat dis school/college/university
(attained d highest status)
s d best private school/ best private college/ best private university, ryt?

It's also more unfair to confine a university in saying that they are the best just because of only 1 reason.

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From ATOMIC_BOMB:

Maxell raised a very pertinent point. Tarnishing another institution will never raise or elevate your own institution. It will just show your insecurites and sour graping ways. The true measure of Greatness is not by mere spoken words, gossips, or opinions, but by founded realism(s), achievement(s), argument(s), evidence(s) and proof(s) (ps. all with an "s" which means that the reasons are 'plural' and not 'singular'). Furthermore, we have legitimate institutional bodies that make an objective stand and viewpoint regarding the quality, level, assessment, or even the rank of academic institutions. It includes the PAASCU, FAAD, CHED, ASIAWEEK and even the LAW. We can ask any school administrator and i'm sure that they respect & salute the validity, reliability and credibility of these institutional bodies in the education sector.
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question:

what program/course offerings ng dlsu is/are level 4 status?

comment..... as far as i knw, not d entire university was evaluated for level 4 status....

part of dlsu s level 4 lang at hindi entire university....

ALL programs of De La Salle are already Level IV Status. Under PAASCU Policy, La Salle couldn't have achieved Level IV Status for the whole institution if not all of its' academic programs are already Level IV. The Level IV Status of De La Salle University-Manila is what you call an "Institutional Accreditation".

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From PAASCU Website:

WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PROGRAM ACCREDITATION AND INSTITUTIONAL ACCREDITATION?

"Program accreditation" refers to the accreditation of academic courses such as liberal arts, sciences, education, commerce, etc. PAASCU's policy extends accreditation by program. This means that individual courses of study, such as liberal arts, sciences, commerce and education are evaluated by PAASCU and given proper accreditation.

In contrast, "institutional accreditation" refers to the accreditation of the school, college or institutions as a whole. Under PAASCU policy, institutional accreditation is not undertaken by itself; only individual programs are accredited. Only when all the programs of an institution are accredited may that particular institution be considered an accredited institution under PAASCU policy.
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4 me, walang "BEST"
level 4 status for some programs lang....

Already answered.

For me and from Asiaweek, Business World, Education World Website, Asiaco.com, CHED, PAASCU, FAAP, Dr. Paul Monroe and the commission of American educators, DLSU System President Bro. Rolly Dizon, and from other "True" Lasallians, there is an apparent & evident BEST / NO. 1 / TOP / Highest Private University in the Philippines. It's nothing else but DE LA SALLE UNIVERSITY.

i'm not from PAASCU kaya d ako sure f tama yan, but it's an observation lang po.....

You admitted yourself that you are not sure with your views. Well nice and good... Because apparently, all you ever did was repetative lousy, flimsy, & frail questions and a couple of baseless & incongruous accusations. If you really want to be a good & effective critic, don't ask and ask and ask. . . . Learn how to interconnect and analyze things "critically". That's why a critic is called a 'critic'. He expresses his views in a critical & analytical manner; not just through a petty & repetative barrage and bombardment of dilettante & skin-deep questions.

http://db.education-world.com/perl/browse?cat_id=11732"

"De La Salle University - Manila This academic institution is the best private University in the Philippines. The school is duly recognized by the Philippines' CHED, PAASCU, and FAAD."

nakakatuwa! bakit? April 29, 2002 lang naglabas ang PAASCU's about level 4 status ng dlsu.

wow, kung totoo man yang description sa education-world, ang galing pala ng site na yan d b? just in one month? updated agad.
It's highly possible knowing that information interchange and communication is fairly easy with the technology of the Internet and Email. Besides, I also maintained my own Website before, and I can say that updating simple information like a description for example can be done in a jiffy. And as another person has said, "the truth will always come out".

Haay... Done at last... I did not imagine myself spoon feeding people up to this extent... :rotfl:

But nevertheless, if it will be for the revelation & dissemination of the Truth, I'll go even the farthest way or distance just to preserve what is rightful & what is true...

Peace and love to all. :)

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Bu11ydog

Jun 12, 2002, 04:09 PM

Ang habahaba ng reply ni Sprakatumski, puro hype at ebaks lang ang pinagsasabi. Not worth reading.

Bottom line pa rin, opinion lang ng mga Lasalista na da best sila. Opinion ng madla ay Ateneo o UP.

Obyus ba na ginagamit lang ng mga Lasalista ang PAASCU sa panlilinlang ng mga kapwa bobiskis. It's nothing but another cheap propaganda tulad ng mga lumalabas sa Marketing & Communications Office ng DLSU.

Bottom line, Level IV is not equal to being da best.

Non sequitur. Leap of faith. Logical disconnect.

PAASCU is an accrediting organization. It accredits; it does not rank schools.

May da best skul ba naman na tambakan ng mga bobo at slowwww?

May da best skul ba naman na pinandidirian ng mga honor students ng kanilang high school (LSGH) mismo?

May da best skul ba naman na nasasali sa blacklist ng CHED for offering substandard courses?

May da best skul ba naman na napakadaling pasukan? Kahit sinu-sino na lang pati na ang pinaka-bobiski sa high skul ay admitted kaagad. No sweat.

DLSU Main + CSB + Dasma + Araneta U = Da Best???
Mwahahahahahaha :lol: Only kung nagpapatawa kayo. Obyus na pinagsama-sama na third rate skuls. Baka da best sa ka-ebakan, pwede pa.

Entrance test ng DLSU..... napakahirap ba tulad ng mga test sa Harvard, Stanford, Ateneo, o UP?

I don't think so. Nakakainsulto nga ang test sa DLSU eh. Parang test sa Montessori nursery school. Para ngang pang retarded pa yata. No wonder kung sinu-sino lang ang nakakapasok sa DLSU. Want proof? Si poohkielaki...basahin ang argument niya. Halatang kulang sa logic at mahina sa analysis.

What about da Business World article?

Walang credibility. Nothing but a propaganda and a personal opinion of a fanatical Lasallian. Pay attention to first person references sa article tulad ng usage ng mga terms like "I", "We", and "Us."

Hindi siya naiiba sa mga article tulad ng "The Best Mader in Da World," "The Best Sex in my Life", "The Best Wife in the World," "The Greatest Story Ever Told," "The Best Fafa Federation," "The Best Cook"......ek ek ek... In ader words, personal opinion lang at subjective.

Isa pang dahilan kung bakit walang credibility... Obyus nga na hindi da best private skul sa Pinas eh kasi Ateneo ang da best. Da best skul pa kaya?? Kapal naman!

Why DLSU will always be one of the ebakest skewl bukols in the land????

Read the above comments for the nth time.

Why Level IV is not tantamount to being the best?

Read the above again. In addition, read criticguy's comments.

Mahirap maintindihan for the bobos, which is karamihan ng mg taga DLSU. Kasali na si poohkielakie, sprakatumski, greener_manure atb. :silly::elf:

Yung mga bright and honest Lasallians, alam nila at naiintindihan nila na walang koneksyon ang Level IV sa pagiging da best.

Nuff said.

No matter what, tambakan pa rin ang DLSU .. past, present and forever.

Hype as much as you want. Kayo-kayo lang ang nagBOBOlahan.

I can't really blame you. It's beyond your ability to comprehend.
At alam ko na atat na atat na kayo maka-angat sa almost-a-century old na reputasyon niyo na Smokey Mountain University o Tambakan de Malate.

Full of ebaks in our minds!!

Mwehehehehhehehehe :lol:

Nobody Envies Ebak DLSU.

NU Rulezzzzzzzzzzz pa rin!!!!