Nibiru - "Planet of the Crossing"

[aajao]

online writings are predicting/calculating that Nibiru will cross the solar system, specifically collide with the earth's orbit by year 2012. some other information can be found here: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...41457416&hl=en

if this is true, i don't know how i'd react seeing a big star/planet approaching the earth and count the number of hours that humankind may exist. All i know is, i'm fond of these types of movies such as Armageddon, Deep Impact, but experiencing them in real life is a different story.



more of Nibiru information can be read here: http://xfacts.com/xnews/index.html

youtube also has a good number of videos about the same, and one of these videos even claim that "Nibiru will be first seen by everyday people by May 15th 2009 as a faint reddish object..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y

[Jonga]

http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-...stion/?id=2759

[aajao]

darn. you spoiled everything.

ok.. let's get back to Noah's ark. lol.

[Jagon]

I find Sitchin's work interesting also, I feel he's the Jules Verne of this century

[The Kryptonian]

Complete hoax according to NASA. 'Nuff said.

[visionarylink]

Originally Posted by The Kryptonian

Complete hoax according to NASA. 'Nuff said.

I bet your source of "reliable" information also are CNN and Fox news.

D-uh.

[Milliardo]

This is simply bad science fiction. There are more questions than answers that are raised with this Nibiru stuff. One thing believers of such nonsense will have to contend is the fact that if such a planet exists and if it will supposedly disturb the Earth by crossing its orbit, why is only going to do so now? Already there you can smell the bad sci fi. Such an event would be a catastrophy not only on our planet but on the whole solar system as well. If its size is to be believed, it is at least twice the size and mass of Jupiter (proponents of this bad science fiction actually say its more than that). You can already imagine how bad its "science" is with that. Looking at the picture there as well, one can see how impossible Nibiru is--its orbit goes all the way to the inner planets' orbits. There is simply no scientific evidence for this. The link provided does not even give us how many years Nibiru orbits the Sun, which should be a further tip-off to anyone that this is bad science. Such an orbit should have made Nibiru discovered years ago, and with its size and mass should have been detected even if it's far away. Pluto is so small yet was discovered through a series of mathematical calculations, and later seen through telescopes. Nibiru then should have been detected in the same way, but there is no evidence for its existence. So, no go for this bad science.

[visionarylink]

Originally Posted by Milliardo

This is simply bad science fiction. There are more questions than answers that are raised with this Nibiru stuff. One thing believers of such nonsense will have to contend is the fact that if such a planet exists and if it will supposedly disturb the Earth by crossing its orbit, why is only going to do so now? Already there you can smell the bad sci fi. Such an event would be a catastrophy not only on our planet but on the whole solar system as well. If its size is to be believed, it is at least twice the size and mass of Jupiter (proponents of this bad science fiction actually say its more than that). You can already imagine how bad its "science" is with that. Looking at the picture there as well, one can see how impossible Nibiru is--its orbit goes all the way to the inner planets' orbits. There is simply no scientific evidence for this. The link provided does not even give us how many years Nibiru orbits the Sun, which should be a further tip-off to anyone that this is bad science. Such an orbit should have made Nibiru discovered years ago, and with its size and mass should have been detected even if it's far away. Pluto is so small yet was discovered through a series of mathematical calculations, and later seen through telescopes. Nibiru then should have been detected in the same way, but there is no evidence for its existence. So, no go for this bad science.

That is why you prepare by 2012, it's precisely 3600 years after the last occurence which caused great calamities. If you believe in your bible (more accurate versions were recorded by other ancient civilizations compared to the fairytale-like biblical narration) where such events were actually documented, like the Flood, why act surprised?

You so lack research and that's what made you nonchalantly say there are no scientific evidence, I bet you rely on CNN and Fox news too for your sources, gullible sheeples. In fact the mysterious anomaly on the orbit of large planets like uranus, jupiter, the asteroid belt that had baffled scientists, may partly be explained by this phenomenon.

The gall of those wallowing in ignorance, and their arrogance that their myopic paradigms are the only realities existing in this universe, is definitely annoying (just as the gullible were recently manipulated to oil blessings wars, media puppetry, trash entertainment, etc.). The real threat for the survival of humanity is HUMAN IGNORANCE and the pathetic arrogance blinded by its bliss.

[Fenix]

It's part of the December 23, 2012 end-of-mayan-calendar thing.
On that day, earth will collide with a planet, will be hit by a comet, will experience really deadly stuff due to the great polar shift, etc. etc..

[Milliardo]

Originally Posted by visionarylink

That is why you prepare by 2012, it's precisely 3600 years after the last occurence which caused great calamities.

And for such an "enlightened" man, you believe such nonsense. Tsk tsk.

You so lack research and that's what made you nonchalantly say there are no scientific evidence, I bet you rely on CNN and Fox news too for your sources, gullible sheeples.

No dear, I don't even watch these networks nor surf them. Too much excitement already on local news. But seriously, you need to know your science before falling for such things. Again, what scientific basis does this have? You call those who don't believe this nonsense as ignorant, and then dismiss actual scientific explanation why this thing will never occur. If you are so "enlightened", as you claim you are, then can you tell us how many years does Nibiru orbit the Sun? What is its farthest range from the Sun? What is its mass and actual size? See, I looked over the site posted, and it doesn't give any information about this supposed planet, how it was found (if indeed it was--nothing yet from astronomers regarding Nibiru).

And as an added bonus--why do you believe in such nonsense when you are pushing for the Maharlika thing? What good will changing the name of our country be if in 4 years' time we'll all go to kingdom come? So--enlightened?

[visionarylink]

Originally Posted by Milliardo

And for such an "enlightened" man, you believe such nonsense. Tsk tsk.


No dear, I don't even watch these networks nor surf them. Too much excitement already on local news. But seriously, you need to know your science before falling for such things. Again, what scientific basis does this have? You call those who don't believe this nonsense as ignorant, and then dismiss actual scientific explanation why this thing will never occur. If you are so "enlightened", as you claim you are, then can you tell us how many years does Nibiru orbit the Sun? What is its farthest range from the Sun? What is its mass and actual size? See, I looked over the site posted, and it doesn't give any information about this supposed planet, how it was found (if indeed it was--nothing yet from astronomers regarding Nibiru).

And as an added bonus--why do you believe in such nonsense when you are pushing for the Maharlika thing? What good will changing the name of our country be if in 4 years' time we'll all go to kingdom come? So--enlightened?

I see you have no iota of awareness, much less admiration, on the profoundness of the ancient Mayan calendar that baffled scientists that they can only be humbly (as any true scientist does) amazed by it (except for the arrogant, unimaginative among their kind claiming to be scientists). It only shows your lack of research regarding the matter. For someone whose source of excitement is the puppetry of mainstream media, not surprising. It is amusing to observe the blissful perception of 'reality' by the sheeples nowadays.

And you say it's nonsense? Tsk, tsk and again, tsk.

Research on ancient civilizations with keen culture at documentating their historical accounts, like the ancient Sumerians, with well researched books that speak about it in the modern context, including answers to the questions you had posted, because those things you find amusing were already discussed with scientific basis; just be sure to be willing to eat the mockery in your words.

I could advice that you get some copies of the book by Sitchin, although by my personal research, there are some issues he aired that I may not agree, like his suggestion that the ancient pyramids originated from the Sumerian gods (it was profoundly more than that). As for his other researches, I assure you he has enough intelligence that would put the mockery of smart-alecky people like you to embarassment.

Actually, humanity by that time can choose, either to be destroyed by its own folly and ignorance, or choose for its survival by being aware and ultimately to Evolve his/her Consciousness. Then, every being in this world (minus the superficiality of sheeple morality) would be worthy to be called a Maha Lekha, a Noble Creation.

But then, it's just nonsense, isn't it? If it's convenient for you to see it that way, don't believe it I won't force you, you'd probably deserve it. Convincing skeptics is actually the least of my priorities.

Again, let me share this word of wisdom from the amoeba community, and I hope you have enough microscopic grain of imagination to learn from it

"The foolish amoeba saith in its cellular membrane, there is only one universe that existeth, and that universe is the puddle."

[Milliardo]

Originally Posted by visionarylink

I see you have no iota of awareness, much less admiration, on the profoundness of the ancient Mayan calendar that baffled scientists that they can only be humbly (as any true scientist does) amazed by it

Amazed, probably. Baffled, maybe. Actually believe? Not really. Even scientists don't see any evidence on Nibiru. Yes, there is the possibility of a 10th planet somewhere, but many astronomers already agree that its size and mass is somewhat less since it has eluded them for so long. And remember, this is the age when we have much technology and knowledge at our disposal to discover such a planet.

For someone whose source of excitement is the puppetry of mainstream media, not surprising.

See, the reason why I doubt your supposed "enlightenment" is because of such putdowns that you employ--it doesn't show much "enlightenment", but a kid who is insecure with himself and uses such tactics to express his supposed intellectual superiority. I would have thought of you to be more advanced, but unfortunately, you are merely pedestrian with your thinking. So much for your "enlightenment".

Research on ancient civilizations with keen culture at documentating their historical accounts, like the ancient Sumerians, with well researched books that speak about it in the modern context, including answers to the questions you had posted, because those things you find amusing were already discussed with scientific basis; just be sure to be willing to eat the mockery in your words.

Dear, your excuses will not work out; I asked you those questions. It is now in your court to provide us here with answers. No answer=no proof, and there's nothing to this other than just another of the 1,000,000 end time predictions that float around the internet like flotsam. This is actually even worse, as bad science is written all over it. A sci fi writer can come up with something more novel and a more convincing scenario than this one. You seem to be caught up too much on such things, making me suspect you even more since "enlightened" people like you don't just go for such things.

I could advice that you get some copies of the book by Sitchin, although by my personal research, there are some issues he aired that I may not agree, like his suggestion that the ancient pyramids originated from the Sumerian gods (it was profoundly more than that). As for his other researches, I assure you he has enough intelligence that would put the mockery of smart-alecky people like you to embarassment.

Ah, you mean read books like Von Daniken's "Chariot of the Gods", or its equivalent by such fantasizing authors? No thanks. As I have mentioned, they are good for entertainment and when you have nothing much to do in your spare time, but then again I would rather read something that is more intellectually stimulating than what you suggest.

Actually, humanity by that time can choose, either to be destroyed by its own folly and ignorance, or choose for its survival by being aware and ultimately to Evolve his/her Consciousness. Then, every being in this world (minus the superficiality of sheeple morality) would be worthy to be called a Maha Lekha, a Noble Creation.

And now we have excuse #1001.

Again, let me share this word of wisdom from the protozoan community,

How apt, quoting from the same life form that you must have come from.

[visionarylink]

Originally Posted by Milliardo

See, the reason why I doubt your supposed "enlightenment" is because of such putdowns that you employ--it doesn't show much "enlightenment", but a kid who is insecure with himself and uses such tactics to express his supposed intellectual superiority. I would have thought of you to be more advanced, but unfortunately, you are merely pedestrian with your thinking. So much for your "enlightenment".

Hey, it's entertaining, spare me the pleasure. I'd prefer when arrogant insinuations deserve a taste of their medicine.

I didn't say anything on being "enlightened"-than-thou, otherwise I would have chosen to sound so ethereally grand like Buddha and make sure to deal this with an attitude that would remove your doubt that I'm your messiah with wings.

It shows your gullibility, you seem a candidate seeking for someone else's rather than your own sense of awareness. I choose not to present myself to you like some kind of too good to be true, me be guru and you be follower thing. Hey, I'm also human with my version of frailties. Seek for your own enlightenment for only you can find it for yourself, rather than pouting at the way I amusingly poke you with a stick

or a whip a hammer or even a chainsaw if you like

Dear, your excuses will not work out; I asked you those questions. It is now in your court to provide us here with answers. No answer=no proof, and there's nothing to this other than just another of the 1,000,000 end time predictions that float around the internet like flotsam. This is actually even worse, as bad science is written all over it. A sci fi writer can come up with something more novel and a more convincing scenario than this one. You seem to be caught up too much on such things, making me suspect you even more since "enlightened" people like you don't just go for such things.

The excuses of timid surfers is worth a snore. Ok then, no answer to spoonfeed you, no proof for you. But let me give you a little hint, see those stars and the sun above you? They actually move like clockwork, which is why the Mayan Calendar was profound eough to predict, unlike our version of Gregorian calendar where we base it on the sun, they had based theirs on the core of the galaxy itself.

I can even give you assignment: make further research and discover the events that had occured in this planet every 3600 years based on 2012.

Amazing, this is the internet age and you didn't bother to find numerous exciting evidences you were desperately groping for. Er, do you actually know how to use search engines?

By the way, did I ever tell you that I also write sci fi? But I doubt if you knew the discipline how creative authors put behind it. If you think the real McCoy ones based it out of thin air, you're assuredly wrong.

Ah, you mean read books like Von Daniken's "Chariot of the Gods", or its equivalent by such fantasizing authors? No thanks. As I have mentioned, they are good for entertainment and when you have nothing much to do in your spare time, but then again I would rather read something that is more intellectually stimulating than what you suggest.

Sure, entertain yourself with it, your defense mechanism you put around you may actually help to brace for. Actually, your narrowmindedness obviously ain't intellectually stimulating for me, but then it may be entertaining for such arrogant ignorance to be whipped at.

How apt, quoting from the same life form that you must have come from.

Oops, I remembered, my original version was actually about the amoeba. From someone who actually composed its original version, don't you think your mockery to my composition actually defines your kind?

But anyway, you haven't done much research about the Mayan calendar, so you probably have no iota of a hint in answering that.

[extremeload]

^^

so you just instantly believe what you saw on the internet and youtube? dont' you know most of them are hoaxes.. if you are telling us that we should believe 2012 is the end because you've seen it using search engines or youtube.. so dapat ba mas mapaniwalaan ka namin.. i mean it is really logical that if ever a planet or comet that big is hitting us by 2012 we should have already see it MORE CLEARLY... it's 2008 na 4 years to go.. so where is that planet or comet NIBIRU again? dapat nakikita natin.. oh don't tell me when 2012 comes from NEPTUNE TO EARTH ganun siya kabilis dadating sa planet natin.. i mean you are just talking smart here.. give us the proof it really exist and not just ******** youtube or just having a book saying it exists and having crappy proofs.. show us the real image that exact image if it exists nga.. or baka iniisip mo nag tatago siya sa likod ng mars.. kaya tama lang when 2012 comes sakto lang na mahihit tayo...

[visionarylink]

Your comment about internet and youtube is so clich'e and seemingly narrow. You may advice that to persons needing common sense to discern, but it makes me wonder whether you have this same common sense to discern either.

Being skeptical may be beneficial, but it remains to be seen whether one has enough discernment when amidst the hoaxes, the fragility of the truth would be noticed and preserved when the valuable moment finally comes. In this case, especially in this country with a naive people subliminally manipulated to servitude of outside 'masters' seen or otherwise, so obviously glaring by name of country itself yet they do not even notice it, the lack of discernment could result to destroying and loosing certain fragile truths that such damage may be tragically wasted like pearl thrown to pig stye.

The issue does not rely whether you or I believed it or not when such mysteries in universe will always exist and extend and it will always be there in the great vastness that starkly contrasts myopic, narrowminded opinions like tiny irrelevant speck.

The issue is how one replies to the vastness of the yet to be seen, whether to be humbled, be discerning, vigilant, keeping an open mind, willing to learn in contrast to reactions that are closeminded so blinded by pathetic arrogance that amplify a hollow degree of contemptous ignorance.

[nowonder]

@Miliardo
read sitchin's books..you won't see the evidences you're looking for in his website. READ HIS BOOKS! all his researches were in there. you will learn a lot from it.


the signs were already there...the calamities, the natural disasters, FREQUENT earthquakes, heavy storms/typhoons/tornados.


yes they were all written in the bible. Why?...because it already happened before. in the ancient times.

the catastrophe that is predictable but inevitable.

[aajao]

^ uhmm.. i think the Bible forewarned things to happen. while some things have already happened, it's still interesting to note that the Bible never fails with what it says.

and oh yeah.. i'm interested in Sitchins book. it is costly in National Bookstore though. next payday, perhaps

[nowonder]

^costly but worth it naman! hehehhe...
what books do you already have?...."12th planet" and "stairway to heaven" pa lang nababasa ko eh...nghahanap ako baka may mga cheap prices ng sitchin's books sa iba like sa mga multiply online book shops...hehehe..

[pollywog]

...maybe it has something to do with this?http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080628/...msday_collider

[[Sniper]]

Originally Posted by visionarylink

Your comment about internet and youtube is so clich'e and seemingly narrow. You may advice that to persons needing common sense to discern, but it makes me wonder whether you have this same common sense to discern either.

Being skeptical may be beneficial, but it remains to be seen whether one has enough discernment when amidst the hoaxes, the fragility of the truth would be noticed and preserved when the valuable moment finally comes. In this case, especially in this country with a naive people subliminally manipulated to servitude of outside 'masters' seen or otherwise, so obviously glaring by name of country itself yet they do not even notice it, the lack of discernment could result to destroying and loosing certain fragile truths that such damage may be tragically wasted like pearl thrown to pig stye.

The issue does not rely whether you or I believed it or not when such mysteries in universe will always exist and extend and it will always be there in the great vastness that starkly contrasts myopic, narrowminded opinions like tiny irrelevant speck.

The issue is how one replies to the vastness of the yet to be seen, whether to be humbled, be discerning, vigilant, keeping an open mind, willing to learn in contrast to reactions that are closeminded so blinded by pathetic arrogance that amplify a hollow degree of contemptous ignorance.

Just a word of advice kid. When you want to convince people about your case, make sure you back them up with solid facts and evidences. Calling people who disagree with you as "narrowminded" without even presenting forth any solid evidences to nail the coffin is just a stupid assumption. What's worse, you're telling us to google it.

It's obviously not gonna work especially those who are more intellectually superior than you kid..